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    Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Great spars lastnight chaps always enjoy the spars even if i do get my ### handed to me alot ,feel free to post below about tips/rules/regs.

    Shame that on these spar events the same players turn out need more of variety tbh , im sure the more we chain these 1v1 spar sessions the more followers we'll get.

    "If you build it, he will come"(field of dreams)great quote rubbish film.



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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    -No Stun/Root/Morale/Power pots
    -Don't use skills such as Last Stand & Never Surrender (The skill is at your desposal so you are free to use it, should wish to do so. I just don't use them in spars myself.)

    Those are the basic "Rules" I follow, however I don't expect everyone else to follow them aswell, as I can't really expect people on the other side to know what I think is good sparring manners, and what's not

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    When I spar with my Guardian at old LC HS I put these "rules" on myself.

    1. No pots.
    2. No food.
    3. No Insignia or other anti-stun/slow.
    4. No outside buffs.
    5. No in-combat buffs bought with DP or at the store.
    6. No Strength of Morale.

    7. No Deep Breath. (Guardian reset skill)

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    I would just add these to the ones already mentioned :

    - No HiPS or Dissapear to regain full health / power .
    - No HiPS or Dissapear to hide among the other freeps / creeps .

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Burgs:

    -Don't use Touch and Go
    -Don't use Knives Out
    -Don't use Find Footing

    Pretty much iWin buttons.
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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    I'd go for no fair fighting, but that's probably why I don't do spars ;P

    Nah in reality I just go for no health/power pots. Usually I'll also go for no quitting the fight (I'll use disappear to get an extra pounce or sprint to kite and such, np). But generally I only spar if there's absolutely no action to be found elsewhere (even camping Grothum is preferable if there's 1 freep every 30minutes or such)
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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Think most already use this if not get it -----> http://www.lotrointerface.com/downlo...tAnalysis.html

    Great little tool for spars and any 1v1 situation in the ettons ,Did a quick 1v1 with warden yesterday and this little tool puts into perspective what total hots this class can pull off.

    Total damage to the warden was 40k+ after the fight ended ward was just short of full moral worked out he healed 38k ward was 14k ended on about 11.5k what a class, just an example of the perks of the combat analysis ,also tried it on the wargs with flyer stance and buffs results are epic i.e bennythebull not sure if you run the combat plugin m8 but wow did 14k to you when you owned me at oc river and you still had half moral when i dropped ,post few screen shots if there is any interest ,defo worth running the plugin guys.

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    If you lose the spar, don't run. You lost, you die, running is lame and will get you ganked.

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Had a few spars today and as such also some comments on the spars.

    please PLEASE don't ever heal a freep at spars with dots on him. I'd lost the spar, I'll admit but the dots were enough to kill my opponent too and I'd been waiting for that to happen when an rk healed him. You can heal freeps so many other places why take away a fair kill that was earned in a 1v1?

    Also had a champ use bubble and sprint against me as well as a cappy use Last stand in 1v1s, but what can you do? besides the way the battles against champ and cappy were going I will concede that the uses of bubble and last stand were somewhat justified.

    But seriously, please don't heal at 1v1s. Wait and watch. If someone dies then you can always rez him.
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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnsinger View Post
    Also had a champ use bubble and sprint against me as well as a cappy use Last stand in 1v1s, but what can you do? besides the way the battles against champ and cappy were going I will concede that the uses of bubble and last stand were somewhat justified.
    If this would happen to me and I had disappear off cd. I would use it, wait some time and strike & kill..


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    But generally I only spar if there's absolutely no action to be found elsewhere (even camping Grothum is preferable if there's 1 freep every 30minutes or such) <=== lol

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    For spars, click right in icon of creep (if you are log like creep) or freep (if you are log like freep) and select spar... why you talk about which skills can use or not? or rules? OMG!

    YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FIGHTCLUBING!!!



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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips



    No pots, No skills, No pvp...
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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Gattsu_EU View Post
    When I spar with my Guardian at old LC HS I put these "rules" on myself.

    1. No pots.
    2. No food.
    3. No Insignia or other anti-stun/slow.
    4. No outside buffs.
    5. No in-combat buffs bought with DP or at the store.
    6. No Strength of Morale.
    7. No Deep Breath. (Guardian reset skill)
    I certainly can understand that's the way you're getting some renown since 2 years, nowadays the most used skill on PvP by you is "Brutal Charge" to Run Away

    I found funny your irony about me throwing at the air I killed the same freep X times when the best fightclubbers are you and your followers hun.

    Btw still 3 ranks under Rodin *ouch*

    Enjoy


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    I certainly can understand that's the way you're getting some renown since 2 years, nowadays the most used skill on PvP by you is "Brutal Charge" to Run Away

    I found funny your irony about me throwing at the air I killed the same freep X times when the best fightclubbers are you and your followers hun.

    Btw still 3 ranks under Rodin *ouch*

    Enjoy
    I see you still don't understand the meaing of respect ^^

    As for the rules, I won gattsu 1v1, without full audacity, so has Zlaughter, I think more can win, but for the mass it's not possible not gattsu's fault but this server is just poorly skilled (mainly on creeps).

    These rules are fine.

    As for gattsu running away, I've rarely seen him run from a 1v1 (I heard he ran from lep: BAT GATTSU zS) this doesn't take away the fact you shouldn't run away from a freaking zerg or the usual warg pack at tr fields where gattsu is around. Not to mention you're own guard, I think (I typed this out of respect, it should have been know) gattsu is better/higher ranked than you (I think Glor's 1v1 already pointed this out but you're not the best guard around so how can you say this about gattsu?)

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    I certainly can understand that's the way you're getting some renown since 2 years, nowadays the most used skill on PvP by you is "Brutal Charge" to Run Away
    Only 2 years? Though I had been using it for 4 years...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    I found funny your irony about me throwing at the air I killed the same freep X times when the best fightclubbers are you and your followers hun.
    I have a funny irony about you? What?... Not sure who my followers is tho...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    Btw still 3 ranks under Rodin *ouch*
    Yes, you should have seen how Rodin owned me at questing the other day, he did 25 quests before I could do 1 so can't wait to be the same rank as him so I too can be good at questing...


    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz. View Post
    (I heard he ran from lep: BAT GATTSU zS)
    Hehe, he told people about that I see :P It's wasn't a spar since it was at TR HS and he get enough infamy from me when we do spar at LC HS so did it just to piss him off really, think I had like 500 morale while he was on 7000 :P

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    I found funny your irony about me throwing at the air I killed the same freep X times when the best fightclubbers are you and your followers hun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gattsu_EU View Post
    lol, maybe it was the same freep 2000 times :P

    joke by the way

    Joke by the way=Es una broma, por cierto

    Helley deffo hasn't fightclubbed, 7k kbs with a total of 10k kills is totally normal for non fcers.

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    I certainly can understand that's the way you're getting some renown since 2 years, nowadays the most used skill on PvP by you is "Brutal Charge" to Run Away


    Good job Isabel!

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

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    Good job Isabel!
    Pathetic Photoshop zS

    A Yuzuriha* would never run from a fat uruk.

    Excellent name choice Broom!






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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlaughter View Post


    Good job Isabel!
    For the next day, make a full video, so the people could notice I was jumping across grams and moking you, nice try, but fail


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Dacil View Post
    Pathetic Photoshop zS

    A Yuzuriha* would never run from a fat uruk.

    Excellent name choice Broom!


    *http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yuzuriha
    Urban Dictionary??

    I Took that name from a manga book called "Tatuaje de Sangre" ("Blood tattoo" or something like) from one of the loads of Saint Seiya Comics my brother has, lmao


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Gattsu_EU View Post
    Wall of text
    Same as you can say me Fc'er I can reply this way.


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz. View Post
    I see you still don't understand the meaing of respect ^^
    Really need to talk with childs about respect?


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz. View Post
    Not to mention you're own guard, I think (I typed this out of respect, it should have been know) gattsu is better/higher ranked than you (I think Glor's 1v1 already pointed this out but you're not the best guard around so how can you say this about gattsu?)
    I'm not the best guard at moors and don't pretend to be, but try to catch I respect people winning their renown or infamy with effort, and my oppinion is Sparring is a consented Fc, you can agree, disagree, like, dislike, but's the only truth.
    Maybe seeing Gattsu more often on the field of battle killing creeps and joining the fights instead logging creep to ask for spars at old LC HS could change my thinkings


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    I'm not the best guard at moors and don't pretend to be, but try to catch I respect people winning their renown or infamy with effort, and my oppinion is Sparring is a consented Fc, you can agree, disagree, like, dislike, but's the only truth.
    Maybe seeing Gattsu more often on the field of battle killing creeps and joining the fights instead logging creep to ask for spars at old LC HS could change my thinkings
    I do wonder how you get your renown/infamy with effort?

    My opinion is that spars is much more challenging and takes more effort than the normal none raid fights going on in Ettenmoors since you have no one to help you and you can't run to safety if you are about to die, it's kill or be killed.

    It's fine that you have your opinion that sparring is fightclubbing but you can't say it's the only truth as people have different opinions and different truths.

    How often do I try to get spars going again? Once every Friday maybe? And if you think I get much renown from it you are mistaken. I can hold spars for 2 hours and have maybe 5 spars on a good Friday, sometimes more sometimes less and it's far from free renown fights as I usually die to some of the high rank creeps that want to fight me.

    And last but not least I'm only rank 10 after 4 years in Ettenmoors so surly that must show that I don't gain much renown from sparring...

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post
    Same as you can say me Fc'er I can reply this way.
    Your 2000 solo kills didn't add up with your 180k infamy so I made a joke about it. I think everyone got it was a joke except you, probably because everyone else also read line number two as well...

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Gattsu, you disrespectful fcer!

    First of all, you should address the mighty Empress as " Your Grace'', she is the crown of Sauron Loves Spain after all.

    Secondly, your replies must include a Spanish translation or at least a translation on Esperanto.

    Thirdly, you should know by now that the Hayley's truth IS the only truth. This extends to maths as well. For example 2000*100=/=200.000

    And last but not least, when the Empress says:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley
    I'm not the best guard at moors and don't pretend to be
    you should reply out of courtesy
    Quote Originally Posted by Good Gattsu
    Oh but of course you are, your Grace!

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    anyway spar it's funny but isn't etten.
    I think is good to avoid use of morale/power pots ...

    You just play for see what your class can do witout consumables ! It's like doping :P

    In etten the game it's another point, no rule you can do what you want ... but respect help to become more funny

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Guiwinner View Post
    anyway spar it's funny but isn't etten.
    I think is good to avoid use of morale/power pots ...

    You just play for see what your class can do witout consumables ! It's like doping :P

    In etten the game it's another point, no rule you can do what you want ... but respect help to become more funny
    You say spars isn't Ettens, yet you say "no rule you can do what you want"? Sometimes I want to do spars so for me spars would then be Ettens

    Do it just have to be one thing or the other?

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    @gattsu

    Sure, spar is a pretty point of the game and can be an alternative to the mast zerg time.
    You can learn better to play and play in a "normal mode" versus another player.

    In a spar i know who will be my enemy and i'm ready for the fight not like you play in free mode

    Anyway etten was lose his good point, the funny part of the etten is the tactic of a raid and the group/fellow role.

    I remember raid with stealted burg whatching around and hunter track ...
    People move in the map for find the other raid and flank him etc ...
    Atm the game it's only zerg people alone

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Guiwinner View Post
    Anyway etten was lose his good point, the funny part of the etten is the tactic of a raid and the group/fellow role.
    That's your opinion only.

    Many people don't enjoy raids at all, or prefer to play solo.
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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Dacil View Post

    xD


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacil View Post
    she is the crown of Sauron Loves Spain after all.

    Yes I am


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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

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    Yes I am
    Wait what, aren't you Shakirak. Or are you dual playing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Atriohm View Post
    Wait what, aren't you Shakirak. Or are you dual playing?
    Check the screen again mate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atriohm View Post
    Wait what, aren't you Shakirak. Or are you dual playing?
    I think Shakira is Escornada and Isabelpantoja is Farruquita. But maybe both are Zizel

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Hayley View Post

    Yes I am
    About the message of the day cortesy of Niladin
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ZladDt5gA
    In Eregion also!!!
    Blame Turbine!!!
    WE WANT SOME EVENT LIKE IT!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCu5a...eature=related

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    Re: Spars Do's/don'ts/tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggahl View Post
    I think Shakira is Escornada and Isabelpantoja is Farruquita. But maybe both are Zizel
    Don't reveal my secrets

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