Thread: Leveling up in Crafting

I am a lvl 30 Burglar, and just having started crafting on explorer tonight I have some questions. I have now mastered apprentice on Forester and Prospector. I'm working on Tailor but it seems like you need hundreds of light hides. Is there a quicker way that I am missing?

Also any tips for beginners crafting would be appreciated.

The first 2 tiers on any crafting is hard imo
Since you either outlevel that area before collecting enough mats, or start crafting too late

Tailoring almost killed me. I hated it. I hated it so much that when I got to Supreme Master I haven't made one item since then.

There may be an easy method, if there is, I don't know about it. I pretty much farmed all my hides and and just knocked the tiers out in a week.

That may have been where I went wrong, did not do tailoring in time increments.

Originally Posted by Dunskap

or start crafting too late

This is where I messed up, I was 60(level cap back then) before I even started tailoring.

You'll find the requirements doubling and trebling as you get into higher tiers and need thousands of hides and around 1400 points in the mastery tiers.

It's a grind, no matter how you look at it. If you have flax, you might want to use it to make components with, as those will help you level a bit faster - also get hold of either the captain's banners or burglar's signals - those tend to give you the most bang for the buck to plow through it.

Hides are the scarcest for Explorer. Check the Auction House every day, there are occasional deals. The best way is get off the horse, find things with hides..wolves, pigs, bears...and get hides. Store an extra stack of low level stuff if you may need it. Maybe roll an high dps alt for storage and collecting low-level stuff. Logs and ore are plentiful..I've been selling it at about 500-800 silver per hundred. If you ride, set aside some time for farming hides, till you get what you need. When in doubt, google 'farm' and whatever item you need.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by Chanah

You'll find the requirements doubling and trebling as you get into higher tiers and need thousands of hides and around 1400 points in the mastery tiers.

It's a grind, no matter how you look at it. If you have flax, you might want to use it to make components with, as those will help you level a bit faster - also get hold of either the captain's banners or burglar's signals - those tend to give you the most bang for the buck to plow through it.

Actually it only takes 800 or so hides to master T6 not thousands (not sure about T7 but I can't see it being much higher) and I disagree on the banners and signals, they both take 8 hides and grant 8 points and there are no recipes for them until T2 for banners and T4 for signals. Using the auto granted armour recipes in most tiers gets you 12 points for 8 hides (counting making the components).

If you look here Tier by Tier you will find the best method I found for leveling a tailor with the fewest hides (except for T7).

Since we can now crit components the numbers may be a bit off depending on how many crits you get.

There are several cases, each with its own solution. Here are a few.

1. You know you want to be a tailor from the beginning. Select explorer, kill things, deed the wolves early-on, and process the hides.

2. You decide to be a tailor at level 30, and you're solo.
a. You're stinking rich. Buy them off the AH at whatever price is up.
b. You aren't. Go back and finish any deeds that drop light hides and medium hides.

3. You decide to be a tailor at level 30 and you're in a kinship.
Let your kinnies know that you need light hides; they'll supply them as they level their alts.

4. You're planning to eventually have alts; start them now and use the low-level hides.

The easiest way to craft fast is having high level alt with lots of gold. Then you can either buy the overpriced AH mats or use the alt to farm them quickly. If you are the only character and don't have gold to buy mats then you must go farm mobs that drop them. And yes it can take a long time. Cut down the time by researching the best spots to farm. When you get enough mats go to craft area and repeatedly make the most basic item. Example might be to just make the same cloak over and over again. Make sure the item has the least amount of materials needed for the most amount of crafting XP gain. It's usually 2 leathers giving 8 points.

Vendor trash all the yellow cloaks, and once you can crit, keep the crit cloaks and see if you can AH or sell them in trade channel. Otherwise just trash them as well.

Originally Posted by ClydeTheGreat

I am a lvl 30 Burglar, and just having started crafting on explorer tonight I have some questions. I have now mastered apprentice on Forester and Prospector. I'm working on Tailor but it seems like you need hundreds of light hides. Is there a quicker way that I am missing?

Also any tips for beginners crafting would be appreciated.

Missy's guide, which she linked in her post and also found in her signature, is very helpful if you're raising a tailor. (Thanks, Missy!) I made great use of it to grind out the initial levels needed to get my new Tailor into the guild so that I could take advantage of last week's store sale. I found my auction house to be lacking in hides and my own vaults were lacking- most likely sold them since they sold so well...

A good spot for Light Hides is the bear den near Tuckborough, if you've already done slayer deeds that will yield hides. The nice thing about the bear den is that it's a nice circuit with a good spawn rate. While there's an associated quest, there's no bear slayer deed in the Shire, so no competition, unlike the wolves.

If you're going to farm hides, you need to know good areas with fast spawn rates and/or lots of the right level mobs. Helps if they're all the same type so when you do loot all, everything that drops stacks.

For Tier 1 (light hides), try the Bridgefields Wall area in The Shire.

For Tier 2 (medium), try the area with the bears north of Adso's Camp/

For Tier 3 (strong), if you can handle them, the aurochs herds southwest of Esteldin.

And so on.

Unfortunately, Turbine wiped out the best place to get Tier 7 hides with the Enedwaith changes. The druggavar in the goat herd that only came out at night were a fantastic source of T7 hides. Now, however, they drop the upper T6 ones which have never been hard to get.

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Originally Posted by Unique

Actually it only takes 800 or so hides to master T6 not thousands (not sure about T7 but I can't see it being much higher) and I disagree on the banners and signals, they both take 8 hides and grant 8 points and there are no recipes for them until T2 for banners and T4 for signals. Using the auto granted armour recipes in most tiers gets you 12 points for 8 hides (counting making the components).

If you look here Tier by Tier you will find the best method I found for leveling a tailor with the fewest hides (except for T7).

Since we can now crit components the numbers may be a bit off depending on how many crits you get.

Even less if you only make the 2 day and weekly rep items once you get up to the tiers you can do those at. the 2 day gives you 35 craft xp for one item and the weekly 70 xp for one item crafted.

If you aren't in a hurry to get it done, just pop those rep items every cooldown and you will be much more efficient per resources. Plus those itesm will be sueful in maxing guild rep, saving fro future tiers of guild rep, or using for those guild recipies later.

This is particularly good if you are leveling up multiple crafts at once. For example I am lvling up 9 toons simultaniously in both crafts and lvls. So I have all thier cooldowns synchroniized and hit the 2 days all at once and the weekly all at once for all 9 of them.

almost every hide you will need have a deed to kill something that drops that hide (bears, wargs, wolves, saber-cats, etc), I always tried to kill two birds with one stone, somehow it seemed far more rewarding to get a deed and some tp while also gathering mats.

You should also check the skirmish camp crafting vendors. These have special recipes available that can help level crafting and do not use normal ingredients.
However they have a three day cooldown and the ingredient used in these recipes needs to be bought from the vendor with skirmish marks.

Other than that I can only repeat what others have already suggested: Doing the deeds that involve hide droppers should provide you with plenty of hides while also helping your traits and earning TP.

It doesn't really matter which craft you chose there is a lot of grind to the process. It's intended to run that way. Pristine Hides in North Downs were particularly hard to get as I recall and L51 hides in Moria the same (forget which one that is but only the L51 cave claws found in the Library at Dolven View have them).

There are 2 ways to address this:

1. It's part of the game. Enjoy It. Don't over do and don't try to get To The End faster.
   Use the needs to rank up some deeds as you go and perhaps collect some vendor trash/task board turn ins at the same time.
2. Go to the Turbine Store for pain relief.
   The store carries: Crafting Ingredient Packs and Crafting Accelerators and Crafting Guild Rep Bonus scrolls. Of course you must part with some hard earned cash to buy these unless you are VIP and get 500 Turbine Points per month with your account.

Personally I hold off the crafting accelerators until I'm on the last 1/4 of the tier and have enough mats to warrant a Full Push to the end. ymmv.

Oh and note: anything made with the ingrediant packs are BOAcct.