Thread: LOTRO Stat Checker

I was bored last night, so I made a little tool that compares a character's stats against all others from the same class and level that have used the site before. Right now, it's not very 'smart' as it doesn't have a lot of records in the database, but that will improve the more it gets used. So please, have a look, plug in all your toons and spread the word.

http://ttahvo.webatu.com/index.php

The site is still a work in progress, so things may change unexpectedly.

Interesting concept, hope to see more use it, I like that its totally anonymous too so no elitism from it.

One improvement I would like to see though is the drop down box for choosing server defaults back to brandywine every time, would be nice if it stayed on your previous choice, makes entering multiple alts from the same server easier

2 thumbs up Hark. I like it...i shall have to log off with my fervour setup next time to see how my crit stacks up then.

Keep up the good work!

Thanks Catsia. I will fix that part of the form - was just being lazy.

This is cool, and I predict it will find its way into timeless use. Kudos to you for this!
It's cool.

Very cool - shared it with my kin.

Thanks and +rep.

Thanks so much! What a useful tool. Great job.

very nice job

Wonderful tool to use!

Being able to compare my class anonymously will be quite helpful in improving burglar and will help to point out which stats need some boosts.

Excellent job!

Nice work!

I was able to run it for all my toons and I came up pretty much average. But, my champ came out behind the average for a few things. I've always suspected that he should be a little bit stronger, so your tool tipped me off to what I should start drilling down on to improve him a bit.

So yeah, great job. One minor thing--just echoing the input above to have the drop-down menu stay at the last choice instead of resetting to Brandywine server.

Sounds good, but how does it work?

I tried entering a couple of my characters, on WithyWindle and I just get my character info:
Same for Birgit, and Eldegar ( not mine but other Burglar on Withy)

EDIT: Tried in Firefox and it worked. Was using IE 8 before. Might just be an issue with the PC i am using atm.

Nice tool!

Hope you get bored again!

Would love to see triats stats added, can be done either rather simply by giving % for each of your traits, show the rate of same class same level characters that have that trait.

Or potentially a more complicated version where you compare the selected trait combos per group, ie. X% have the same virtues, Y% have the same class traits and so on for race and legendary.

Or even both!

Either way thx for for a nice tools!

Originally Posted by Harkhonen

So please, have a look, plug in all your toons and spread the word.

Thank you for a funny tool

There is one big drawback: some of the average values are very missleading.
An example: vitality and might for guardians and wardens.
The reason: these classes in their dps builds have ridiculously* low vitality and high might, this screws the average numbers quite a bit. OP guards also have 0 block, which makes the average value for this class unbelievably low (about 4k block across almost 100 guards when I was checking).

For dps classes it seems to give a reasonable picture though as they don't change gear that much.

*ridiculously from the point of view of the tanking build of course

Very nice! +rep to you, my good sir!

Very nice... would it be possible to add masteries as well?

Great! Now I'm depressed having seen how useless my burg is compared to the average

+rep though, great idea and nicely done.

Nice little tool, +rep. Two features I'm left hoping for:

1. ICPR. Would love to see how I compare with that too, if the data is possible to extract.
2. Different builds, especially with tanks, lead to the average being misleading. I guess guardians could be easily(?) separated into two classes by whether they are using a shield (i.e. have any block), but wardens would likely be more difficult.

Also, don't feel bad if you rank below average. Remember that the people using this tool and who the average is based on are forum-actives with a great interest in character development; i.e. the "average" is very likely above average.

Excellent Idea

I'm assuming you're taking the values from the character sheets from my.lotro.com
So unfortunately we won't be able to see ICPR, ICMR, Masteries, etc.
However, since you have the main stats (might, vitality, etc.), you could apply the formulas to calculate the missing stats. Though that won't be entirely accurate because of items which increase the missing stats directly. For that you'll have to use the lorebook links and stuff

Nice tool, thanks. Too bad only two other level 70 Loremasters have used it.

Very nice tool. Will come in handy for beefing up some toons.

The website is finding my character - shows name, level etc but I can't see the stats. What am I doing wrong?

Originally Posted by Lizzi123

The website is finding my character - shows name, level etc but I can't see the stats. What am I doing wrong?

Are you using Internet Explorer, another person had the same problem. How about using firefox or chrome?

Yes I tried it from work so I'm using I.E.
I'll try it again from home using something else...Thanks!

Nice tool, I like it! +1

Ps. It works fine with opera

This is a really neat tool. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Elenluin-Menelloth

Are you using Internet Explorer, another person had the same problem. How about using firefox or chrome?

Works fine with IE9.

Nice tool, but yeah, I can already tell the results are real out of whack due to things like different builds and logging out with buffs, etc.

Also, to people worried that they're "below average"...don't worry about it! In my experience, the "average" champion probably has way more morale/vit than me in my DPS gear, driving up the averages for those stats, but they probably hit like wet noodles, so it doesn't bug me too much.

Originally Posted by Tenerial

Works fine with IE9.

I think we use IE7 at work and it isn't working with that. At least not for me.

Hi all,

Thanks a bunch for all the positive feedback. I wanted to answer a couple of questions from this thread the best I can.

Unfortunately, there is a very limited subset of character data that you can access using the lotro API. Really all you can get is what is currently in the stat checker tool and worn gear (armor, jewelry, etc). So, as much as I would love to do something similar for virtues, that data is not available.

Someone brought up the point that the averages could be kind of wonky for classes that spec in two different directions, e.g. an OP guard vs. a defensive guard. Yep. Perhaps I may get tricky someday and look at the worn gear and try to spilt these classes into sub-types and only compare your toon against the correct sub-type. Doubtful though

The charts are generic Google charts, so I assume they would work in IE, but I don't use it so your mileage may vary.

I'm wondering if a similar compilation of the most frequently worn gear by slot per class & level would be helpful. At the upper levels the armor selection is fairly limited, but it might be useful for jewelry. What do you think?

Also, does anyone know for certain if the data being pulled from the lotro api includes temporary buffs on your character at log off time? From my tests, it does not appear to, but I'm not 100% on that.

Anyhow, thanks again and I'm glad you enjoy using the stat checker.

Hark

P.S. -- The server should stay selected on your last choice now.

Originally Posted by Harkhonen

I was bored last night, so I made a little tool that compares a character's stats against all others from the same class and level that have used the site before. Right now, it's not very 'smart' as it doesn't have a lot of records in the database, but that will improve the more it gets used. So please, have a look, plug in all your toons and spread the word.

http://ttahvo.webatu.com/index.php

The site is still a work in progress, so things may change unexpectedly.

+ rep to you. This is WAY Cool. I wish I knew how to do stuff like this when I'm bored. I usually just end up watching a movie. LOL

Originally Posted by Andared

Wonderful tool to use!

Being able to compare my class anonymously will be quite helpful in improving burglar and will help to point out which stats need some boosts.

Excellent job!

I agree. I like that it's anonymous. My build suits me but wouldn't work for others I'm sure. I like to see how my character stands up to everyone else though. Actually I was kind of shocked that I didn't totally suck. I play solo so I went heavy on the morale / vitality as that seems to work well for me. I found that my morale, power and vitality were higher than average. My armour, fate, will, parry and resistance were even steven. My Might was slightly lower than average and my critical hit was A lot lower than average. Not too surprised by my critical hit although I haven't been having problems given my play style. What surprised me was my finesse. It was a LOT higher than average. I play solo! Do I even need finesse? Is it needed in solo skirms or no?

Originally Posted by Jarnos

Sounds good, but how does it work?

I tried entering a couple of my characters, on WithyWindle and I just get my character info:
Same for Birgit, and Eldegar ( not mine but other Burglar on Withy)

EDIT: Tried in Firefox and it worked. Was using IE 8 before. Might just be an issue with the PC i am using atm.

Originally Posted by Elenluin-Menelloth

Are you using Internet Explorer, another person had the same problem. How about using firefox or chrome?

I had a problem using IE7 but Mozilla Firefox worked great! Wish this worked better with internet explorer but it is still a pretty cool tool.

Originally Posted by Lizzi123

I had a problem using IE7 but Mozilla Firefox worked great! Wish this worked better with internet explorer but it is still a pretty cool tool.

This works on iphone as well....just tried it. :-D

My results:

My level 10 Captain is pretty much identical to her peers - which makes sense, because there's not much opportunity for diversification in those first 10 levels.

Out of my other four characters, two did really well compared to the average, in pretty much all respects, while the other two are apparently quite lousy... (The graphs look pretty much like staircases - the difference between my results and the average is about the same as that between the best results and the average - only in the opposite direction.)

I do wonder what to make of this - I would understand if I got a low score in some places, then a higher score in other places: then I'd be optimizing for the wrong (or at least: unpopular) stats. However, I just seem to have 'less' in all respects on two characters, and 'more' on two others.

I don't pay that much attention to optimizing anything, so I wasn't surprised about the two characters who didn't do so well, but the other two being best for their class (out of three, I think, nothing statistically relevant) does have me a bit puzzled.

(For those who are curious, my characters are in my profile, so you can check for yourself.)

Nice +1 rep

Very simple...very nice...I like !

/Borat

It works, and quite nicely too. Needs more people using it though, being compared to just three people isn't quite the comparison I'd hope for (especially as I always seem to be around the highest or around the lowest).

Also, am I correct that it purposely ignores level 1 characters?

WOW! Looks great and works well for all my toons. Thanks for the work!

I just realized how much I suck!

+rep!

Originally Posted by Barren

Needs more people using it though, being compared to just three people isn't quite the comparison I'd hope for

I got a comparison against 265 others so that seemed pretty good for a 75 Mini.

I've a level 41 Champion, a level 18 Guardian, and a level 13 Hunter, all with one to three people to compare against (I think the one meant I was the only one, all stats were the same for my Hunter). I get the idea that this is more useful as your level goes higher, especially at level 75.

I love it! Very useful, thank you