Thread: Pathetic IMO

Originally Posted by whitefox1313

The reason you wont find me solo is because i dont hang around in stealth ambushing greenies in questing hub. And FYI, i dont raid anymore and do only small grouping with Plok and Agony crew from time to time. Rest of the time, im solo roaming the map.

You are a hunter, right? Track me!

Are you implying that that's what I'm about? Fair enough.

Well I didn't say you're raiding, but I'll bite. FYI, if you're in a small group stacked with healers and couple of BA's, yet you're in an area with 12+ creeps, doesn't make it a small group fight. Just like an ungrouped goldtagging freep/creep isn't "soloing".

I don't know about you being solo and roaming the map. I know that I've never seen you on your own, but that's just my personal perspective and may not count for much, same as your perspective of me seems to be a little off.

Oh well, guess I'll run into you when I do. Maybe I'll actually gear my Warden sometime soon so you can "have me for breakfast". Dunno which will happen first though, my Warden still has level 65 LI's.......

Originally Posted by doug01

No, see you're wrong (again?).

That thread is about "removal" of heals in WS which is completely lolzy. A nerf to the heals, now that's a legitimate discussion.

ahh...you are correct (again!?) I guess it is all unicorns and rainbows for you guys then......hey I see a new mount for the store there!..

On the topic of moors NPCs...outside warden specifics, were any adjustments made to NPCs with U6? (I don't recall)....if not audacity would essentially be a big nerf to them. (taking same dmg, doing much less)

Originally Posted by Thane9

The game is more balanced right now at this moment than it's been in 5 years. Why is the gameplay nearly as bad as it's ever been? Because people's playstyles are messed up.

what game are u playing if u think this joke of a pvp system since is even remotely close to be balanced. if it was balanced freeps would be constantly winning 2+v1's there's videos around of mini's winning 6v1's. if it was close to being balanced freeps wouldn't have auto crit/dev crit skills/self bubbles 0 cd aoe rezzes and wouldn't be hitting creeps for 8k+ every night. 4 spiders wouldn't have to burn through over 100k morale to kill a solo warden(last night we had 4 higher ranked spiders fight a warden and 2 of us parsed around 26k in damage each to a 16k freep in a 4v1 before we finally killed it. and it wasn't like it was low ranked creeps either 3/4 of us are among the highest ranked spiders on bw with the 4th being only r6 or 7 but who also has 1 of the highest ranked ba's on the server so none of us were actually just fresh rolled creeps.If this game was balanced you couldn't have a 1v1 with a mini last 10 mins and the mini still be at full health at the end of the fight.if the game was balanced creeps would also be able to have 55sec dots that can not only stack with them selfs but also have a ranged slow attached(makes it almost impossible to remove since the pot removes the slow not the damage and before the pot is off cd u have 2 more on u) and can hit for more initial damage then 90% of creep skills while also having an aoe long range stun that hits for more then ANY creep skill can hit to up to 5 creeps on a 2.5x shorter cd then the spider ranged stun thats done at 1/4 the range. there's dozens of other things that makes this game far from unbalanced ever since the stat cap removal.this is the most unbalanced the game in about 5 years since the early days of soa before creeps had anti cc pots and there was no dr at all so a single lm could easily keep 2 creeps perma cc'd while they killed a 3rd without breaking a sweat.

Originally Posted by Thane9

There is NO behaviour that isn't done on both sides. I'm not making this a creep or freep thing.

My comment was directly addressing the fact that the OP stated, which is that creeps stood by and watched, AND encouraged each other to not attack the warden.

That is collusion.
That is cheating.

The game is more balanced right now at this moment than it's been in 5 years. Why is the gameplay nearly as bad as it's ever been? Because people's playstyles are messed up.

I blame the playerbase FAR more than I do Turbine's balancing of classes.

IMHO, is there room for improvement? Always.
IMHO, is specific class balance THE main issue that is ruining gameplay in the moors? Absolutely not.

And btw, I got my creep to R5 in a few days play SOLO, not leeching, back in SoA. But in general I don't play alts so I don't flip creepside very often...not due to freep/creep bias but just because I play one toon predominately.

Lastly, so what if I'm proud of my accomplishments in game and put them in my sig? I earned them. At least my toons name is right there and I'm not anonymously posting.

Your sense of balance is completely messed up then. Freeps kill with impunity (minis) and hardly lose any morale. You say you played a creep way back when. Try it now. I'm not going to say freeps don't have to fight for what they want, but creeps have 3x's the fight. When one freep can hold 5 or 6 creeps at bay, kill them alone and walk away, what kind of balance is that?

I'm also not going to fault your play style as far as flipping alts. But this just tells me you aren't giving the creep side a fair shake. Maybe if you invested time and care into yoru creep NOW you might see what A LOT of people are talking about.

So keep your rose colored freep goggles on. They suit you. Stay safe on your high ranked freep. I won't ask you to put yourself in danger or have to work for anything. And I do have my name here. Felajarko is my champs name on BW. Look it up. So no, I am not posting anonymously. Try again with your sad little jabs, freep-boy.

Originally Posted by Unixbomber

If Orion revamped the burglar class I wonder if touch and go would become a toggle skill?

It would be a start to make up for his nerf of burglar stealth 4 years ago.

Originally Posted by whitefox1313

Fact: Defiler Flies > Warden Power regen Gambit. Unless you consider Leonidaas like a very bad Warden, i may suggest to get your facts straight. I downed him to 10% morale and no power when a warg came and interupted our dual.

Did they fix the bug that made it so they only drained for ~200 total then? About time.

Originally Posted by aad0italian

Do you have #s on this? I'm legitimately interested in seeing this.

I'm surprised that no one posted a link yet. This is the thread you need if you want some parses.
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...pe-U6%29/page6

Originally Posted by Swiftstrike

It would be a start to make up for his nerf of burglar stealth 4 years ago.

...wow, I didn't think people were STILL complaining about the Stealth cooldown! Wasn't that, like, the very first LOTRO update? Or were you referring to being able to ride on your pony stealthed? Or speed-swimming with stealth?

Nevermind, I think I'll just assume you were being sarcastic.

Anywho, yes, I agree, Wardens are insanely OP in the Ettenmoors atm. Six wargs and two spiders took so long to take out this one Warden on Windfola the other day we were actually having conversations in /say while killing him after awhile. LOL, yeah. I have recently witnessed Wardens tanking all of Grothum, TA, or OC without healers. However, Wardens traited like that are only good for star-farming as they can't actually kill anything themselves. In a group, though, they mess the creeps up.

There is no "balance" in the Ettenmoors.

Wardens like that on ridder that spam heals get zerged some dont even need the heals to beat a few creeps, seems like they just want to ezmode.

Originally Posted by cmal

Again, simply because you don't know how to kill it doesn't mean it isn't possible or that it is OP.

If you don't believe wardens are currently OP in the Moors right now, you must play a warden. Oh look, you do =/

It sure is possible to kill shield wardens.

However, Shield wardens are a very limiting part of the overall PvP experience the class can offer.

Originally Posted by Thane9

The game is more balanced right now at this moment than it's been in 5 years. Why is the gameplay nearly as bad as it's ever been? Because people's playstyles are messed up.

hhahahahahahahahaha..sorry.

...hahahahahahaha!

Originally Posted by petaloudas00

back to the topic...

morale leaches didnt have limit a week ago but now it has,10.

a warden with shield traits cannot die but cannot kill too.if you see one and you dont have a group with you just run away simple.

This. Same goes for some freep classes. On my burg I know I can't take down any half decent high ranked WL, defiler or revamped weaver. But they can't kill me either, so what difference does it make? Only ego makes people feel it's their right to be able to facemelt everything out there. So you can't kill a mini as a warg? TOO BAD. You're still a stealth class that gets to pick and choose your fights. I have a R9 warg and a mini I've never bothered to level up since RoI BTW.