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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainyman View Post
    Isn't it already like that? Some 40m, some 30m, some 25m? Besides, RKs have a bunch of ranges on some of their skills too.
    Yes, it is already like that. No 20M skills though...unless you count heals.


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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomPunkk View Post
    Yes, it is already like that. No 20M skills though...unless you count heals.
    Did they really delete our posts... These mods, I swear.

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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainyman View Post
    Isn't it already like that? Some 40m, some 30m, some 25m? Besides, RKs have a bunch of ranges on some of their skills too.
    Ballads, CtO and CtW are 30m. Call to the 2nd age is like...6m. Coda, Anthem of Wizards, Anthem of the Valar, and PC are 40m.
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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Some good , bad and ugly points all made in this thread

    I really think that DEBUFFS are the most logical answer since Minis will just continue to play the "I NEED ME HEALZ FOR PVE" card

    I know at least one Warg skill has a healing debuff (incoming -25%) but its not a guaranteed debuff, only a 20% chance to apply

    With godlike healing in PVP, the counter will be godlike healing debuffs

    At least enough debuff to bring Minis (or RKs) down to beatable levels

    So say we all ?
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    AW: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    No, Audacity was meant to make fights slower, there is no need for an overall healing nerf, which would just put us back to where we were before U6

    The strong healing is working as intended

    Maybe increase healing on Creepside
    Give Defilers more group heals (because in 1vs1 their healing is fine) that are too power heavy to use them in 1vs1, but help with AoE damage
    Make WL heals a little more spamable, so that they don´t have to wait for cd as often (like lowering their single target heal CD from 4s to 2,5s and their group heal CD from 10s to 8s)

    The Minstrel self-healing in Warspeech is a different problem, the self healing of all other Classes is fine
    Blue traited Wardens might be nearly unkillable, but they can´t kill anything themselves either

    RKs are OP, yes, but it´s not their self-healing
    It´s more the fact that they are full damage dealer and full healer with utility for both and lots of ways to switch their attunement. Add to that the Stat changes with RoI. Before U6 the Class had many flaws in different areas and no tools for several situations. I have no idea how to balance RKs, without bringing back the bad feeling we had between RoI and U6

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    Re: AW: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris91 View Post

    The strong healing is working as intended
    And the strong debuffs that Orion will give Creeps will also be WAI

    Godlike skills are cool for PVE...go ahead and solo the Dragon or whatever is the Mega-NPC of the week

    But godmode in PVP is not cool....including godlike heals

    You can be debuffed while in Ettenmoors, or completely nerfed

    You choose

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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?


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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    May rage quit the game if I see another Mini go from 1% health back to 100% 5 times in a row

    Seriously Orion what were you thinking?
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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Minstrels:



    Note how they were defeated only at the end by creeps loud QQ


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    Re: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Dude... that video was win... but I think the minstrel duo was defeated in the end by chain-silence.

    +rep for video . Brought back memories.

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    AW: Re: AW: Any details yet on incoming Mini Nerf?

    Quote Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg View Post
    You can be debuffed while in Ettenmoors, or completely nerfed
    As I said, both won´t happen

    Neither an across the board healing nerf, nor strong healing debuffs

    The goal of Audacity was to make fights longer and stronger healing is a part of it (on both sides)

    The only change I hope to see coming is better group healing on Creepside (group healing on a Defiler is a pain)

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