Thread: Some Freeps making playing in the Moors not fun...

Originally Posted by loki84

umm the reverse is more often true, i play both sides and i can say the creeps zerg more atm. besides, you should thank voa, because flipping stuff allows you to flip it back and get more commendations, and tbh a purely red map for too long gets boring, y'know i wanna fight in other area's than just ec and stab.

Creeps don't need to take keeps to make commendations, they make enough wiping Voa repeatedly without losing a single creep, like today.

And a red dominate map doesn't force you to fight at EC, look elsewhere and you'll find creeps for sure.

Originally Posted by thatabguy

In 3-4 ranks you will still be you. I've talked with you, and you have no class or maturity. People like you give Freeps a bad name.

Okay I admit I didnt care for Zonflux at first but after Aurn's proformance tonight in the moors..Zonflux your kewl in my book. You atleast fight me 1v1 without sprinting away...Aurn on the other hand sprinted away from a reaver and myself after we killed his champ running partner Margery, then we finally kill Aurn and Margery returns to take a swipe at us again...as we get Margery to 1400 hit points Aurn returns and get this Shieldwalls Margery! Wow you are such an awsome Guard! <(sarcarism) You are dead on in your reply Zonflux..Aurn is and will always be a no class Guard.

Originally Posted by JeniWren

Okay I admit I didnt care for Zonflux at first but after Aurn's proformance tonight in the moors..Zonflux your kewl in my book. You atleast fight me 1v1 without sprinting away...Aurn on the other hand sprinted away from a reaver and myself after we killed his champ running partner Margery, then we finally kill Aurn and Margery returns to take a swipe at us again...as we get Margery to 1400 hit points Aurn returns and get this Shieldwalls Margery! Wow you are such an awsome Guard! <(sarcarism) You are dead on in your reply Zonflux..Aurn is and will always be a no class Guard.

But Aurn told me he is one of the best guards of the server. He told me in creep OOC in a discussion of Guards being overpowered.

Originally Posted by Stevo6

But Aurn told me he is one of the best guards of the server.

That's for other players to decide, No one will beat Jason & Bellrock for that title in my view.

Originally Posted by JeniWren

Okay I admit I didnt care for Zonflux at first but after Aurn's proformance tonight in the moors..Zonflux your kewl in my book. You atleast fight me 1v1 without sprinting away...Aurn on the other hand sprinted away from a reaver and myself after we killed his champ running partner Margery, then we finally kill Aurn and Margery returns to take a swipe at us again...as we get Margery to 1400 hit points Aurn returns and get this Shieldwalls Margery! Wow you are such an awsome Guard! <(sarcarism) You are dead on in your reply Zonflux..Aurn is and will always be a no class Guard.

You have got to be kidding me itz.

Zonflux, you seriously need to play on creepside more to get a better idea of PvP.

Almost all freepside cooldowns are "I win" buttons. And by cooldown I don't just mean 5m+ skills, freepside has extremely powerful skills with only 2+ min cds. On the other hand, creepside cooldowns barely give creeps a chance to fight back (excluding MT against hunters).

this thread is very entertaining. so much misinformation.

oh, and the zerg goes both ways. although there seems to almost always be 2 freep raids.

I don't use a single skill that has a CD. That's right, not even my 1 second CD ballads.
I just auto-attack things until they die.

I know, I'm a boss.

Originally Posted by loki84

umm the reverse is more often true, i play both sides and i can say the creeps zerg more atm. besides, you should thank voa, because flipping stuff allows you to flip it back and get more commendations, and tbh a purely red map for too long gets boring, y'know i wanna fight in other area's than just ec and stab.

but yeah, i mean i was on my spider today and a full group of creeps were just killing 1 guard at ec over and over, i won't lie, i participated, but i mean, c'mon there were at least 10 people waiting for 1 guy over and over, poor coldplayvivvi lol

Poor Coldplayvivvi nothing.....he attacked TA several times yesterday and was not alone or getting zerged. He was usually one of the ferps that got away back over Stab. it was some of the ferps with him that would buff him but get killed when we pushed them back.

I can't speak for what happened AFTER that as I logged off for some RL stuff, but cold seemed to be in a pretty good spot while the ferps with him were collateral damage.

Originally Posted by JeniWren

Okay I admit I didnt care for Zonflux at first but after Aurn's proformance tonight in the moors..Zonflux your kewl in my book. You atleast fight me 1v1 without sprinting away...Aurn on the other hand sprinted away from a reaver and myself after we killed his champ running partner Margery, then we finally kill Aurn and Margery returns to take a swipe at us again...as we get Margery to 1400 hit points Aurn returns and get this Shieldwalls Margery! Wow you are such an awsome Guard! <(sarcarism) You are dead on in your reply Zonflux..Aurn is and will always be a no class Guard.

You're right...creeps NEVER map back in after killing them while I am fighting their friend. Spiders never burrow and call for help when I am 1v1ing. Creeps never try to res zerg, they just wait til their group is done dying and politely let theyou freeps go somewhereto else.Please this is not isolated to a single freeps action.

The story of the lord of the rings is a story of WAR - two sides diametically opposed and fantactically trying to kill the other.

War. Not sport. There are no rules in war. Not really. This is a back ally street fight writ large. Not a boxing match. Kill that mother&*(#er before he kills you. Or if he kills you, rez, get some buddies and get revenge. Kick, bite, scratch, claw; do everything you possibly can to gain an advantage. Use ever skill, every pot, every buff or perk, and your enemy is a FOOL if he doesn't do the same.

And fools die easy.

And if after you've stomped his rotten carcus into the dirt, he wants to come here and cry about it, or in ooc, or in tells, then laugh at the little b***ch cause you're the one that made him cry.

Originally Posted by ColorSpecs

The story of the lord of the rings is a story of WAR - two sides diametically opposed and fantactically trying to kill the other.

War. Not sport. There are no rules in war. Not really. This is a back ally street fight writ large. Not a boxing match. Kill that mother&*(#er before he kills you. Or if he kills you, rez, get some buddies and get revenge. Kick, bite, scratch, claw; do everything you possibly can to gain an advantage. Use ever skill, every pot, every buff or perk, and your enemy is a FOOL if he doesn't do the same.

And fools die easy.

And if after you've stomped his rotten carcus into the dirt, he wants to come here and cry about it, or in ooc, or in tells, then laugh at the little b***ch cause you're the one that made him cry.

I think you taking the whole immersion thing to seriously. This is a computer game. Have fun.

Originally Posted by loki84

you should thank voa,

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

Originally Posted by Winterfell

You're right...creeps NEVER map back in after killing them while I am fighting their friend.
Whats wrong with that?

Spiders never burrow and call for help when I am 1v1ing.
You are 1v1ing a spider. Seriously, 1v1ing a spider. Creeps never try to res zerg, they just wait til their group is done dying and politely let theyou freeps go somewhereto else.Please this is not isolated to a single freeps action.

If I could take on 4+ creeps at a time I wouldn't be complaining.

Originally Posted by mager555

I think you taking the whole immersion thing to seriously. This is a computer game. Have fun.

I'm the one that takes it too seriously? I'm not the one trying to draw up a bunch of unwritten rules for each side to conform to and then complain when they aren't followed.

All I'm saying is take your skirts off and play the game how its meant to be played.

Originally Posted by ColorSpecs

I'm the one that takes it too seriously? I'm not the one trying to draw up a bunch of unwritten rules for each side to conform to and then complain when they aren't followed.

All I'm saying is take your skirts off and play the game how its meant to be played.

yeah but that takes no skill... some of like to brag about being good at silly online things ^_^

Originally Posted by ColorSpecs

I'm the one that takes it too seriously? I'm not the one trying to draw up a bunch of unwritten rules for each side to conform to and then complain when they aren't followed.

All I'm saying is take your skirts off and play the game how its meant to be played.

Do you play as a freep or a creep? Playing as a creep is unbalanced. Freeps are OP compared to creeps in every way. You aren't taking that into account in your 'kill em all' attitude. If sides were equally powered then I might agree with you.

Originally Posted by Stevo6

You're right...creeps NEVER map back in after killing them while I am fighting their friend.
Whats wrong with that?

Spiders never burrow and call for help when I am 1v1ing.
You are 1v1ing a spider. Seriously, 1v1ing a spider. Creeps never try to res zerg, they just wait til their group is done dying and politely let theyou freeps go somewhereto else.Please this is not isolated to a single freeps action.

If I could take on 4+ creeps at a time I wouldn't be complaining.

1) Nothing is wrong with it in my book but your creep counterparts seem to think that Aurn and Margey shouldn't be able to do that. Which is absolutely laughable. Slyc is known to favor this and it either results in more reknown or a close fight and death for me.

2) You're right I was understating, I don't think I have 1v1'ed a spider in a while as they burrow and bring in help. I wish they had a chat feature like messenger where you could see "XXXX spider is typing." You know their little fingers are just going as fast as they can.

And I was not complaining, I was offering commentary on how rediculous Itz position, on what Aurn and Margey did, in fact is.

I know you love to play the spider victim in your posts and it is all good. I have been around to see spiders from the top of the heap to below the bottom of the barrel, either time they deserve to get stomped by what they consider OP classes which is all freeps if I remember most spiders thinking.

Originally Posted by Winterfell

either time they deserve to get stomped by what they consider OP classes which is all freeps if I remember most spiders thinking.

at this moment in time, any even semi competent will seem OP to the avg creep not just spiders.but some classes do seem allot more op then others though honestly any well played class by EITHER side can be quite op and frustrating when against some classes no matter if you did everything perfect you have a 1% chance to win the fight if your lucky unless that person decides to hold back to try to make things "fair".

Back when i was a mostly solo player(a long time ago lol) and the 2 sides were close to being balanced i used to gimp myself in 1v1's by not using certain skills vs freeps in the hope of making the fight even even if it meant i would loose the fight. i would rather of lost a close fight then won if it meant i would of destroyed that freep.

I never expected a freep to hold back at all and still don't because i know not everybody is looking for "good" fights especially now in a time when BOTH sides seem to care more about just farming points in the easiest way possible instead of trying to make things fun for everybody involved.

Originally Posted by thisisanewname

at this moment in time, any even semi competent will seem OP to the avg creep not just spiders.but some classes do seem allot more op then others though honestly any well played class by EITHER side can be quite op and frustrating when against some classes no matter if you did everything perfect you have a 1% chance to win the fight if your lucky unless that person decides to hold back to try to make things "fair".

Back when i was a mostly solo player(a long time ago lol) and the 2 sides were close to being balanced i used to gimp myself in 1v1's by not using certain skills vs freeps in the hope of making the fight even even if it meant i would loose the fight. i would rather of lost a close fight then won if it meant i would of destroyed that freep.

I never expected a freep to hold back at all and still don't because i know not everybody is looking for "good" fights especially now in a time when BOTH sides seem to care more about just farming points in the easiest way possible instead of trying to make things fun for everybody involved.

All true...I was just in a mood yesterday.

I don't expect and don't often see a creep hold back on me because they can't due to the nature of my class. I however hold back a lot of what I could do as a Mini to prevent "blow-outs" but even then, my competitve nature doesn't allow me to nerf myself to the point of losing in a pixelated 1v1 fight because it is me versus the proverbial you. I kinda feel like Fezie from the Princess Bride though, I have gotten so used to fighting groups, fighting 1 player seems totally foreign :P.

I am really hoping at some point Mini's can get to (erm...be put in by a large soft-foamed bat) a place where it does take all of their available skills to win a fight versus another competent/well-played creep, instead of having to self nerf to get an entertaining go of it.

Originally Posted by Winterfell

1) Nothing is wrong with it in my book but your creep counterparts seem to think that Aurn and Margey shouldn't be able to do that. Which is absolutely laughable. Slyc is known to favor this and it either results in more reknown or a close fight and death for me.

2) You're right I was understating, I don't think I have 1v1'ed a spider in a while as they burrow and bring in help. I wish they had a chat feature like messenger where you could see "XXXX spider is typing." You know their little fingers are just going as fast as they can.

And I was not complaining, I was offering commentary on how rediculous Itz position, on what Aurn and Margey did, in fact is.

I know you love to play the spider victim in your posts and it is all good. I have been around to see spiders from the top of the heap to below the bottom of the barrel, either time they deserve to get stomped by what they consider OP classes which is all freeps if I remember most spiders thinking.

Gee Winter what did I do to you? Oh well never mind, my point in my first post wasnt that they brought in friends...could care less if more had showed up...my point was how funny it is to see a heavy shieldwall another heavy just to get the kill....was amusing to see the two poeple who run the fastest to get away in the moors actually fight and in that fight not only blow cds but shieldwall....i was laughing my butt off in vent over it with the reaver.
I play the spider victim? Hmm last time I found you "soloing" in the moors I got ran over by atleast 6 of your "friends". Most of the time that I get zerged I do not call the Zerg out, if you wish to zerg me with your burg friends by all means do.

Originally Posted by Winterfell

All true...I was just in a mood yesterday.

I don't expect and don't often see a creep hold back on me because they can't due to the nature of my class. I however hold back a lot of what I could do as a Mini to prevent "blow-outs" but even then, my competitve nature doesn't allow me to nerf myself to the point of losing in a pixelated 1v1 fight because it is me versus the proverbial you. I kinda feel like Fezie from the Princess Bride though, I have gotten so used to fighting groups, fighting 1 player seems totally foreign :P.

I am really hoping at some point Mini's can get to (erm...be put in by a large soft-foamed bat) a place where it does take all of their available skills to win a fight versus another competent/well-played creep, instead of having to self nerf to get an entertaining go of it.

I'd actually rather not see mini's(or any freep class for that matter) be hit with that large foam bat to help the creeps in the moors. With the exception of the mini rez any thing else that freeps have that seems should be fixed by making changes creeps instead.

The most OP thing right now with mini's is the rez.since freepside is once again designed to be able to handle 2x the creeps numbers giving them an aoe rez with no cooldown is a bit much in the moors especially when it seems like every fight has 7 minis who are constantly trying to drop combat to rez(its fine for pve raids cuz it does save allot of time after a wipe). but then when u add that with the other freep INcombat rezzes (captains having 2,mini rally,rk's do not fall, even lm's eagle self rez) then add in lm's/rks also having a 0 cd out of combat rez and the stronger side having so much better rezzing seems a bit much when u compare that to the weaker side (and i would think the majority of people would have to agree with creeps being the MUCH weaker side at the moment) is just a bit to much. when the sides were close to being even freeps used to complain about the wl rez being aoe even on a long cd so how do you thinks must feel being on what seems to be the much weaker side and minis rez now not only is aoe like the wl but has 0 cd as well. even the defiller rez has a 30 sec cd AND is single target and out of combat only.

Okay seriously Itz, you made my day.
You presented the whole thing just fine except the fact that I charged inside TR, all the way uptop, killed that freaver, (Margey was behind me the whole time) jumped off the back with 2k health, LoSed you behind the broken wall. I had 18 seconds broken legs and then you and that other reaver came in. When the falling injury went off i sprinted but that reaver had a slow on me, you chased me down and it took you like 30 seconds to kill me. Margey arrived, he 2v1d you and killed that reaver, brought you to like 3k and when i came back i shield-walled him and you burrowed. You fully healed, and you could easily unburrow, mez me (stun pot on cooldown) and finish off margey. But you never did. Bottomline, we got 3 kills you got 1, worthy of like 10 points I guess.
I had lots of respect for you Itz, but after you post such stuff here, you should seriously rather reroll. As for the other comment, I am sure Zonflux charges into TR everyday. That's all I have to say.

PS: Winter totally agree with you, and ty for the support.

Originally Posted by Winterfell

All true...I was just in a mood yesterday.

I don't expect and don't often see a creep hold back on me because they can't due to the nature of my class. I however hold back a lot of what I could do as a Mini to prevent "blow-outs" but even then, my competitve nature doesn't allow me to nerf myself to the point of losing in a pixelated 1v1 fight because it is me versus the proverbial you. I kinda feel like Fezie from the Princess Bride though, I have gotten so used to fighting groups, fighting 1 player seems totally foreign :P.

I am really hoping at some point Mini's can get to (erm...be put in by a large soft-foamed bat) a place where it does take all of their available skills to win a fight versus another competent/well-played creep, instead of having to self nerf to get an entertaining go of it.

From what I've seen Wargs with Shadow stance or whatever can pack quite a punch, and the Defiler flies trait is supposed to be the bee's knees from what I've heard. Might not be able to get away left handed from those two sub groups.

Originally Posted by Therealmvp

Okay seriously Itz, you made my day.
You presented the whole thing just fine except the fact that I charged inside TR, all the way uptop, killed that freaver, (Margey was behind me the whole time) jumped off the back with 2k health, LoSed you behind the broken wall. I had 18 seconds broken legs and then you and that other reaver came in. When the falling injury went off i sprinted but that reaver had a slow on me, you chased me down and it took you like 30 seconds to kill me. Margey arrived, he 2v1d you and killed that reaver, brought you to like 3k and when i came back i shield-walled him and you burrowed. You fully healed, and you could easily unburrow, mez me (stun pot on cooldown) and finish off margey. But you never did. Bottomline, we got 3 kills you got 1, worthy of like 10 points I guess.
I had lots of respect for you Itz, but after you post such stuff here, you should seriously rather reroll. As for the other comment, I am sure Zonflux charges into TR everyday. That's all I have to say.

PS: Winter totally agree with you, and ty for the support.

I don't see the point here. Apart from hunters and Loremasters ALL freeps can do this.

Originally Posted by Therealmvp

Okay seriously Itz, you made my day.
You presented the whole thing just fine except the fact that I charged inside TR, all the way uptop, killed that freaver, (Margey was behind me the whole time) jumped off the back with 2k health, LoSed you behind the broken wall. I had 18 seconds broken legs and then you and that other reaver came in. When the falling injury went off i sprinted but that reaver had a slow on me, you chased me down and it took you like 30 seconds to kill me. Margey arrived, he 2v1d you and killed that reaver, brought you to like 3k and when i came back i shield-walled him and you burrowed. You fully healed, and you could easily unburrow, mez me (stun pot on cooldown) and finish off margey. But you never did. Bottomline, we got 3 kills you got 1, worthy of like 10 points I guess.
I had lots of respect for you Itz, but after you post such stuff here, you should seriously rather reroll. As for the other comment, I am sure Zonflux charges into TR everyday. That's all I have to say.

PS: Winter totally agree with you, and ty for the support.

your right Aurn I so could have unburrowed, mezzed you (which you would then use turn the tables) and kill margery...but i was rolling laughing at a heavy shieldwalling a heavy!!! You and margery make my day either by sprinting away which is all the time or by doing something else just as funny.....my stomach still hurts from the laugh the reaver and i got off that! Btw you and Margery killed me easily when i unborrowed am guessing you didnt want to face me alone.

PS the 1 to 3 kills is wrong but its okay ill let you keep your count...still laughing!

It's simple Itz, Shiled-wall doesn't have a tooltip saying: Applied To Minies,RKs and hunters only. As for facing you alone, i've never found you alone.

Originally Posted by thisisanewname

bit much when u compare that to the weaker side (and i would think the majority of people would have to agree with creeps being the MUCH weaker side at the moment)

You got your new skins didn't you? Isn't that what all the fuss is about?

Originally Posted by JeniWren

am guessing you didnt want to face me alone.

Something isn't right here..

Originally Posted by JeniWren

still laughing!

So am I after reading your posts.

well, shieldwalling a heavy..... unusual..... but hey if it worked then credit to ya. I don't much think freeps should nerf themselves, do what it takes i guess, it's fine to act with honour while 1v1ing, heck i've even seen high rank reavers just standing in a field by themselves and gone up and bowed, I could just chilling rhetoric while they're unaware and get a guaranteed win with no real damage, and truthfully sometimes that's exactly what i do. but, sometimes i'll make it interesting, if you're one of those that i do this to then obviously there's some respect there. but always remember that doesn't mean i gotta do it all the time. if i'm too friendly with people on the other side i start to feel bad about killing them. XD

Originally Posted by loki84

well, shieldwalling a heavy..... unusual..... but hey if it worked then credit to ya. I don't much think freeps should nerf themselves, do what it takes i guess, it's fine to act with honour while 1v1ing, heck i've even seen high rank reavers just standing in a field by themselves and gone up and bowed, I could just chilling rhetoric while they're unaware and get a guaranteed win with no real damage, and truthfully sometimes that's exactly what i do. but, sometimes i'll make it interesting, if you're one of those that i do this to then obviously there's some respect there. but always remember that doesn't mean i gotta do it all the time. if i'm too friendly with people on the other side i start to feel bad about killing them. XD

dont worry, they wont feel bad about killing you

You're all scrubs anyway. TBG runs the server

Originally Posted by ZirasAminstrel

You got your new skins didn't you? Isn't that what all the fuss is about?

actually nope i didn't get any of the new skins. in fact i have never even had a lootbox drop on creepside much less get a skin. If it wasn't for the fact that i had gotten 5 or 6 on freepside i would still think they don't exist at all lol