Thought I would join in and say that I would like to 1v1 as many creeps as possible. Only rules are: no pots of any kind, no consumables, no brands, no dp buffs, no other class buffs, and only food and self-class buffs. This goes for both sides so don't think I will be using any of these either, I never do anyways. This, in my opinion, is a true 1v1 and it is as even as possible for both sides. Contact me freepside if you are interested (sometimes im anon so ask in glff or someone in Balrog Riders), or sometimes I can be found on my spider Arakne.
Sounds fun Gall! It will be nice to 1v1 you finally without you using consumables, brands, and slow pots. :P
that other day we spared i didnt use anything in our last spar, when i was on flayer stance and won
today i won again
lms can't beat (good) wargs now
also, if i find you or any freep in open field i will always use slow immunity pot and whatever to kill asap because if there are more freeps around they can't get me and i don't need to waste cooldowns.
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that other day we spared i didnt use anything in our last spar, when i was on flayer stance and won
today i won again
lms can't beat (good) wargs now
also, if i find you or any freep in open field i will always use slow immunity pot and whatever to kill asap because if there are more freeps around they can't get me and i don't need to waste cooldowns.
You may be right for now gall (Although about 10 out of 15 times I had you down to 1-2k morale LOL) but before U6 things were the opposite and I was beating you every time. Things change and wargs and lms willl be changed along with it. Good Fights. Maybe the warg is why you havent beeen on your lm in awhile? idk.
Anyways, still looking for more 1v1s. I want to see more reavers, spiders, defilers, and warleaders plz. BA's are too easy.
Last edited by Krakenborn; Mar 26 2012 at 11:09 AM.
I only have used a few pots in the past (no delving types though), had a really close one yesterday, you were at 2k and I almost got drink deep off (would've given me morale and taken 1-1.5kish of yours) but somehow when you stuned me right before it went off it took away all my venom pips (not exactly sure how that happened still). Anyway, good 1v1s nevertheless.
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i dont play my lm anymore because my vip is gone and because creeps ragelog when they see me riding out of gv
ahahaha...uh..sure buddy
We had a couple fights on Cm tars,,,and you beat me every time. Any tips? Also, "no pots" means the 5 second stun pots also right? dang, i wish weavers had the same stun immunity that LM's did.
If we see each other on Cm, i might give it another go.
Cheers.
"...People are starting to PvP against each other more on the forums than they do in-game..." ~Andrag ... so true buddy.
We had a couple fights on Cm tars,,,and you beat me every time. Any tips? Also, "no pots" means the 5 second stun pots also right? dang, i wish weavers had the same stun immunity that LM's did.
If we see each other on Cm, i might give it another go.
Cheers.
Absolutely I mean the stun pots and root pots too...I would absolutely love to use the store bought slow pots...being slowed is the most annoying thing to me. But I use Stealth Detection and Stun Immunity, Food, and a couple class pet buffs, and that is all. Nothing extra from any other classes or dp or the store, in fact I unquickslot power, morale, stun and root pots for 1v1s. A lot of high ranked creeps can probably win against me if they use enough of these things or a brand...but is that a true 1v1 if I don't use the same things?
If I had a tip for you it would be to try to keep me from getting the double fire critical buff (a result of a melee staff sweep that hits 2 targets i.e. you and your spider). If there is a way you can have it shoot from range while you move somewhere else or something like that it would greatly reduce the strength and chance of a big hit with ents or improved sticky gourd. Play around with your traits and see if you can find a
sneaky way to beat me
And of course I am always up for 1v1s with anyone as long as these rules are followed. IF your awesome and don't follow the rules, I can't do anything about it ofc. But I probably won't 1v1 you again.
-Tar
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If there is a way you can have it shoot from range
Scytode brood.
I think I'm the only one that uses it :/, and only then since it gives me more tactical mitigation. I can't suicide it into a freep ball since it keeps breaking stealth where everyone can see it...
Does no consumables include food?
Maybe I'll 1v1 you after I hit r7...I'm only 10k infamy away...just like I've been for the last 3 months... ...
Scytode brood.
I think I'm the only one that uses it :/, and only then since it gives me more tactical mitigation. I can't suicide it into a freep ball since it keeps breaking stealth where everyone can see it...
Does no consumables include food?
Maybe I'll 1v1 you after I hit r7...I'm only 10k infamy away...just like I've been for the last 3 months... ...
No as I stated the only things I use in 1v1s are self-class buffs and Food (since food makes the fight longer and more enjoyable). I'm not even sure what I meant by consumables lol but no lotro store items, dp buffs, brands, or pots of any kind for sure. I promise I won't HIPS and sprint off CM if you buy burst of out of combat run speed dp buff though or some s**t like that because obviously you are not out of combat in a 1v1. LOL. some ppl know what im talking about.
Sounds good about the 1v1, contact me any time.
Last edited by Krakenborn; Mar 27 2012 at 09:15 AM.
i've tried to get your attention already ingame but maybe i should just leave a message here.
I'd like to try this kind of 1v1 with you too so next time we meet don't just hit me with those firey meatballs.
i've tried to get your attention already ingame but maybe i should just leave a message here.
I'd like to try this kind of 1v1 with you too so next time we meet don't just hit me with those firey meatballs.
Hahaha, I was wondering what you were doing jumping around behind me. Sometimes wargs do silly things so I wasn't sure you weren't a threat :P. Sorry, next time attack my pet so I know you want a 1v1. I'll be looking forward to it.
I also realized, and wanted to clarify, that "No Pots" does NOT include disease, wound, poison, fear pots! Just all other types of pots (Morale, Power, Slow). Sorry for the confusion.
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Hahaha, I was wondering what you were doing jumping around behind me. Sometimes wargs do silly things so I wasn't sure you weren't a threat :P. Sorry, next time attack my pet so I know you want a 1v1. I'll be looking forward to it.
I also realized, and wanted to clarify, that "No Pots" does NOT include disease, wound, poison, fear pots! Just all other types of pots (Morale, Power, Slow). Sorry for the confusion.
I'll still use morale and stun pots until I actually beat you without brand :P (I can only use 1 morale pot [not delving, just gold bought], and 1 stun and 1 root pot per fight anyway, and sometimes I don't even use those 2. If I do beat you without brand sometime though, I'll make sure not to use any pots the next fight )
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I'll still use morale and stun pots until I actually beat you without brand :P (I can only use 1 morale pot [not delving, just gold bought], and 1 stun and 1 root pot per fight anyway, and sometimes I don't even use those 2. If I do beat you without brand sometime though, I'll make sure not to use any pots the next fight )
Sounds good Veenom, I was talking more about wargs and reavers anyways. I can't get any inductions off against wargs or reavers who use slow pots, brand etc. Ranged Classes I don't mind.
1v1s are supposed to be without pots/additional buffs. I'm honestly amazed people can claim a 1v1 when somebody has 3 rows of store buffs and brands =/. Only on Dwarrow :P.
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1v1s are supposed to be without pots/additional buffs. I'm honestly amazed people can claim a 1v1 when somebody has 3 rows of store buffs and brands =/. Only on Dwarrow :P.
I can't recall the amount of times I have lost fights and 1v1s on CM because of some creep/multiple creeps branding or using multiple pots. All the while, I am using only LM skills and food and nothing extra. Maybe, I'm exaggerating but I'd wager that if I hadn't lost so many battles against branding wargs, or war-leaders who pot for morale and power I would probably be Rank 11 instead of rank 10 right now.
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I can't recall the amount of times I have lost fights and 1v1s on CM because of some creep/multiple creeps branding or using multiple pots. All the while, I am using only LM skills and food and nothing extra. Maybe, I'm exaggerating but I'd wager that if I hadn't lost so many battles against branding wargs, or war-leaders who pot for morale and power I would probably be Rank 11 instead of rank 10 right now.
Gonna have to admit, I used a power pot in our 1v1 haha, but 300 power is only good for 2 skills. :P
I used a stun pot by accident in that 2nd fight we had i think.
Happened before i could think oh right no stun pots
But doesn't matter because i died that time anyways haha
I used a stun pot by accident in that 2nd fight we had i think.
Happened before i could think oh right no stun pots
But doesn't matter because i died that time anyways haha
But these fights were nice =D
Good Fights Hurzu! Was actually looking to do a few more since I went back to GV to trait specifically for wargs but most creeps left by the time I was back. We'll have to fight more soon.
I used a stun pot by accident in that 2nd fight we had i think.
Happened before i could think oh right no stun pots
But doesn't matter because i died that time anyways haha
But these fights were nice =D
rank 9 warg losing to a lm? after update 6?
/reroll
We really need some more freeps to come to CM though. It might just be my playtime, but usually even if I log onto freepside I rarely can get ppl to come, sometimes 1 or 2 but not usually (or maybe the ppl who will 1v1 are just noobs that don't use glff, or just don't want to :P )
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Not just brands/pots. On my new server CDs are considered off limits and will get your zerged/shunned. No bubbles/remorseless/sprint for champs, no pledge for guards. no TnG knives out burgs, no wisdom for LMs, racials, etc. Heck, cappys and minis that excessively heal are called out. All in the name of balancing 1v1's via voluntarily gimping freep classes. And I still lose to those classes sometimes. If you will bleed out, its considered good manners to do so. Also creeps always start first, this point in particular I remember being a huge issue on Dwarrow.
We really need some more freeps to come to CM though. It might just be my playtime, but usually even if I log onto freepside I rarely can get ppl to come, sometimes 1 or 2 but not usually (or maybe the ppl who will 1v1 are just noobs that don't use glff, or just don't want to :P )
I agree, its boring to be fighting the same creeps over and over again. Likewise, I am sure it is equally as boring to be fighting the same freeps again and again. Recently, I can't get many creeps to agree to a 1v1 with me, mostly wargs have agreed, but I want to fight some other classes too and there are too few creeps that are always or ever up for 1v1s with me and I'm sure many other people. There are some creeps that I only see out in a raid or a zerg. Maybe its time for these to come to CM! I think we just need to do a better job of getting the word out when there are CM fights. Glff and Moors OOC are both good ideas. However, if you are looking for me to come specifically just send me a tell.
Originally Posted by apb8808
Not just brands/pots. On my new server CDs are considered off limits and will get your zerged/shunned. No bubbles/remorseless/sprint for champs, no pledge for guards. no TnG knives out burgs, no wisdom for LMs, racials, etc. Heck, cappys and minis that excessively heal are called out. All in the name of balancing 1v1's via voluntarily gimping freep classes. And I still lose to those classes sometimes. If you will bleed out, its considered good manners to do so. Also creeps always start first, this point in particular I remember being a huge issue on Dwarrow.
This is somewhat how our 1v1s should be although I think it is a little extreme. Our server has gotten really dirty when it comes to playing fair, not that playing fair is a rule or anything but it doesn't prove anything when you beat someone 1v1 using stun, root, slow pots and/or brand when your opponent is using nothing. IMO, those things should be used in raid v raid only if at all. I'm not sure if I agree with the no CD part because I think it decreases the versatility of the fight. I don't know why it's necessary to have the creep start the fight either. Recently, I fought a defiler that decided it was fair to put up all his HOTs before we started the fight and bowed. Obviously, that wouldn't be allowed. I didn't care much though since I traited my power drain and sucked the blue stuff out of him before blowing him up.
Last edited by Krakenborn; Mar 30 2012 at 11:00 AM.
That's pretty extreme o_O (although, maybe not for Minis) But I do lol when I beat cappies that have 2 rows of buff, including Fellowship buffs, and I'm using no pots or CDs :P
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This is somewhat how our 1v1s should be although I think it is a little extreme. Our server has gotten really dirty when it comes to playing fair, not that playing fair is a rule or anything but it doesn't prove anything when you beat someone 1v1 using stun, root, slow pots and/or brand when your opponent is using nothing.
Dirty in 1v1's? Really the animosity stems from two things: High ranked bad freeps who gank lowbie questers, and two most freeps here haven't spent a large amount of time creepside. Personally I see no reason to fight anything lower that r6 or 7 ever, unless they are in a group. They are easy points anyway and it proves nothing to kill them. What this does is if they ever rank up, they are likely to return the favor.
That said, I understand the large proportion of mutts on Dwarrow leaves many freeps bitter. Still no reason to kill people who are just questing and cant put up any fight.
Originally Posted by Krakenborn
IMO, those things should be used in raid v raid only if at all. I'm not sure if I agree with the no CD part because I think it decreases the versatility of the fight. I don't know why it's necessary to have the creep start the fight either. Recently, I fought a defiler that decided it was fair to put up all his HOTs before we started the fight and bowed. Obviously, that wouldn't be allowed. I didn't care much though since I traited my power drain and sucked the blue stuff out of him before blowing him up.
Versatility of the fight? lol. Come now. No CDs means a few things: 1, alot more fights, meaning more points for everyone. Did 40+ 1v1s in 2 in a half hours a few days ago. 2. Its a pure fight based on MOVEMENT and timing of skills, not if conditions are ideal and if one side has more I win buttons up. Ive seen every class beat every opposing class under these conditions. Fights are much closer and more enjoyable for all parties, and you can tell whos good very quickly.
And yes that obviously would be allowed. Creeps start first because creeps are vastly underpowered in comparison to freeps. You still won despite the fact he stacked his HoTs and are complaining about it?
1v1's wont every improve on Dwarrowdelf until all parties realize your not going to win every fight, and sitting 10 to 15 minutes in between fights for ideal conditions doesn't make you any good.
That said, I understand the large proportion of mutts on Dwarrow leaves many freeps bitter. Still no reason to kill people who are just questing and cant put up any fight.
And yes that obviously would be allowed. Creeps start first because creeps are vastly underpowered in comparison to freeps. You still won despite the fact he stacked his HoTs and are complaining about it?
1v1's wont every improve on Dwarrowdelf until all parties realize your not going to win every fight, and sitting 10 to 15 minutes in between fights for ideal conditions doesn't make you any good.
Personally i dont mind CDs in spar (ask me to not use them and ill do my best, since i click i tend to just do my normal rotations and forgot) it makes the fight longer, when i 1v1 i dont go into a healbot mode, 2-3 heals in a somewhat long 1v1 is not spamming. as per the solo questing thing, i throw a ballad or two their way and wait till they select me, if they attack back then its game on > if not (mostly not) i chase after then for a bit then get bored and run somewhere else
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Recently, I fought a defiler that decided it was fair to put up all his HOTs before we started the fight and bowed. Obviously, that wouldn't be allowed. I didn't care much though since I traited my power drain and sucked the blue stuff out of him before blowing him up.
Defilers should absolutely be able to toss hots up before the fight, it's no different than RKs using wound/poison/fire defense. Hots are purely defensive, they do nothing to the opponent. When I'm on Borken I use the defensive moves before spars, but not Fall to Wrath because that's offensive, even though it technically doesn't start combat.
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if not (mostly not) i chase after then for a bit then get bored and run somewhere else
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