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    Please convert these items to skills

    There are items in this game that are essentially just skills that take up an inventory slot. These items are not consumable and they have singular purposes that do not scale with level, so they last forever and will never get replaced.

    Please just convert them to skills. The same was done to the Map Home item long ago, these are just minor extensions along the same vein. We'll recover a few more inventory slots.

    From Shire quests:
    - Prized Mail Bag
    - Prized Pie

    From Bilbo & Frodo's birthday:
    - Flute Musical Cracker
    - Dulcimer Musical Cracker

    From Winter festival:
    - Rotten Tomatoes
    - Flower Petals

    From Summer festival:
    - Summerdays Fireworks

    From Great River quests:
    - Bagmund's Medallion
    - Brungwath's Horn

    Captain:
    - Summoning Horn

    Did I miss any? You get the idea.


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    From Evendim quests:
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    Ronald Dwale's Pipe
    From Ettenmoors:
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    Map of Glan Vraig
    From 5th Anniversary:
    -Anniversary Fireworks
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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    /signed

    I can't tell you how many of these items I have clogging up my vault space.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    /signed

    This is a great idea for anybody with a completionist streak.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    /signed

    I would love to see this happen.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Epic /signage for the wiiiin


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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Agreed. /signed

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

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    This would free up some space in my bags. I currently have the flower petals, tomatoes, firecracker, and the Dulcimer Musical Cracker taking up space. I do use them quite frequently though.

    You are forgetting Ronald Dwale's Pipe you get from a quest chain in Evendim.
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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamiya View Post
    Captain:
    - Summoning Horn
    The summoning horn requires travel rations. How would this work as a skill?

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Nindolvoth View Post
    The summoning horn requires travel rations. How would this work as a skill?
    The same way other skills that require rations work. The milestone skill used to be an actual item in your bag taking up a slot it was a map, then as now, it required traveling rations to use. All they have to do is check that the person your summoning has met the requirements if not you get an error saying requirements not met.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    /sign


    Also:
    Champion's Horn should be a item that grants the according skill (yes I am aware he already has a skill that requires fervour, this would be an additional long cooldown skill with no fervor use, just like the horn works now).

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by MrsAngelD View Post
    The same way other skills that require rations work. The milestone skill used to be an actual item in your bag taking up a slot it was a map, then as now, it required traveling rations to use. All they have to do is check that the person your summoning has met the requirements if not you get an error saying requirements not met.
    Milestone does not nor ever has required travel rations.

    As for converting items to skills, fine by me. They'll not be getting a place in my quickslots, though
    Last edited by GregJL; Mar 23 2012 at 06:25 AM.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by GregJL View Post
    Milestone does not nor ever has required travel rations.

    As for converting items to skills, fine by me. They'll not be getting a place in my quickslots, though
    You know what your right...sorry, I think I was talking about Mustering horns. I believe those require the person being mustered to have rations.
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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by GregJL View Post
    Milestone does not nor ever has required travel rations.

    As for converting items to skills, fine by me. They'll not be getting a place in my quickslots, though
    But return to Thorins Gate/Michel Delving/Bree/Ost Guruth/Rivendel/Mirkwood/Enedwaith/Galtrev all do.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Great ideas.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Korgain View Post
    But return to Thorins Gate/Michel Delving/Bree/Ost Guruth/Rivendel/Mirkwood/Enedwaith/Galtrev all do.
    Also Hunter Guides and Warden Musterings I believe. The former for sure.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfheart View Post
    You are forgetting Ronald Dwale's Pipe you get from a quest chain in Evendim.
    Ah. Added to first post.


    Quote Originally Posted by Neumi View Post
    Champion's Horn should be a item that grants the according skill (yes I am aware he already has a skill that requires fervour, this would be an additional long cooldown skill with no fervor use, just like the horn works now).
    Aren't champ horns crafted and with different effects based on level though?

    Not that I'd mind personally. Some of the class consumables could very well be granted as permanent skills after repeated usage, just like the festival consumable deeds, but I'm sure some crafters will moan about ruined economy if that happens.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamiya View Post
    Captain:
    - Summoning Horn

    Did I miss any? You get the idea.
    I wouldn't mind seeing the Captain's standards converted to skills either, bared only if a herald has been summoned. Lugging three standards and two armaments around has gotten tiresome after all these years.
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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Most of the items named in the original post are 100% optional fluff items. Personally, I would neither want them permanently clogging up my skill list, nor would I want one second of dev time invested.

    There are certain class items though where it would be advisable. The Captain has it especially bad as he carries up to 7 class items for the ranged slot around.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Rk enamels would be awesome as a skill not just consumable...

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    I think it's a great idea but my 75 Guard's toolbars are almost full with the milestones that I bought. I had to take off a lot of the mounts I had there to compensate. If this is going to be done then I would like another toolbar to hold these skills.
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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphonic View Post
    I think it's a great idea but my 75 Guard's toolbars are almost full with the milestones that I bought. I had to take off a lot of the mounts I had there to compensate. If this is going to be done then I would like another toolbar to hold these skills.
    You might want to consider the travel window plugin and possibly a quickslot plugin like bevyObars, It has a hider module which makes a clickable button to toggle quickslots I have one setup called Mounts, and all my mount skills are there.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Giant Flower
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    There might be others from festivals.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    /signed

    I love simple suggestions like these.

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Map of Glan Vraig plz(pvp)

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    . /signed

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    Re: Please convert these items to skills

    Quote Originally Posted by jewahe View Post
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    I don't quite see how a skill would work for equipable items like these.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrsAngelD View Post
    You might want to consider the travel window plugin and possibly a quickslot plugin like bevyObars, It has a hider module which makes a clickable button to toggle quickslots I have one setup called Mounts, and all my mount skills are there.
    TonicBars is another good one for that. It's what I use, and its extender bars have freed up a huge amount of icon clutter, letting me easily get at all the skills I need.


    Anyway, I agree with the OP. I think it would be good to see a number of the items made into skills. Another possibility might be musical instruments used for the music system, though that might first require first separating out the instruments that minstrels can equip as weapons from the ones used for /music. Then the ability to play instruments in /music mode could be skills. (A minstrel would still need their item instruments to carry into battle, though.)

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    This is cool.../signed.
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