Thread: Soloing in Limlight Gorge.

I have been "Quick Knife" traited all the way to cap and have no legendary items geared for "The Gambler" (I still have some Gambler class traits to finish) and I am getting my butt handed to me in the Gorge before I can get a Troll to 40%.

Has any "Gambler" traited burgs been able to solo these Trolls, Trees and Spiders? If so what traits, LI legacies, virtues and relics do you run with and what strategy do you use?

I do suspect Gambler would be best, but just FYI, I did manage to solo a tree (1 out of 3 attempts) in QK.

Originally Posted by Mordimac

I have been "Quick Knife" traited all the way to cap and have no legendary items geared for "The Gambler" (I still have some Gambler class traits to finish) and I am getting my butt handed to me in the Gorge before I can get a Troll to 40%.

Has any "Gambler" traited burgs been able to solo these Trolls, Trees and Spiders? If so what traits, LI legacies, virtues and relics do you run with and what strategy do you use?

Solo'ed everything cept the 145k Nemesis Huorn before I un'subbed for a break - was working on how to survive it's root DOT when I finally threw my hands up at people coming and 'helping', aka - grabbing aggro and resetting it because they couldn't wait in line like everyone else..

Everything around there is mezzable. I couldn't be bothered going back to retrait for Gambler so I was using QK traits, Mischief stance. For the 145k spider, draw it out off the webs to avoid the adds. If you want to go after the adds for the quest drop, keep the main mezzed, AOE Dust -> Startling Twist.. but be careful because they're very nasty. On everything in the area, use your evasive skills ie. TnG -> Stun -> Knives Out -> Stun -> Mez. Re-engage when you're back at full health and have a pot and Riddle available. Spam MG/Subtle Stab when you're engaged. Some of them, notably the named Troll, get corruptions, so when you re-engage, use Enrage from a distance, and Startling Twist when he gets into range, run up the crit chain and try proc an Exposed Throat to chain the mez for a few extra seconds. Be patient - if you don't have an evasion skill up, only re-engage for 5-10 seconds while they're stunned before you re-mez.

The boss Troll that has his own little camp (you search a dead body after killing him for the quest) hits like a truck, don't go near him with under 3k morale.

Because of how impatient people are, try be proactive when other groups come along - ask if they mind waiting while you solo the mob, otherwise you might get a blind group invite, or have them reset the mob. If they do the latter, Enrage-Provoke to force it onto their squishies.

5QK - Leaf-Walker - Opportunist/Perplexing Riddle

no Problem at all (QK-Stance)

Stun it as often as you could (Faint-Attack + Provoke with Leaf-Walker Traited ftw :P)

for the Trolls you have to DPS as much as you can - the do a lot of DMG

Spiders are the easiest to solo, followed by trees - the trolls are the hardest enemy for soloing

i have done it both on my rk and burg not yer on the lm.

not realy a fun rewarding feeling doing it on a burg. it is clear that the class is broken through from running this. to dependent on a mez and waiting for cool down when mezzing. feels clunky and akward.

RK is gracefull on the other hand slows stuns on the move healing. much more rewarding game experence. But the RK is the best solo class over all in the game

Originally Posted by ifreborn1

i have done it both on my rk and burg not yer on the lm.

not realy a fun rewarding feeling doing it on a burg. it is clear that the class is broken through from running this. to dependent on a mez and waiting for cool down when mezzing. feels clunky and akward.

RK is gracefull on the other hand slows stuns on the move healing. much more rewarding game experence. But the RK is the best solo class over all in the game

Look mate, stop trolling the Burglar forums with your burg's are useless compared to everything else krap. Don't like the playstyle then don't play a burg, it's that simple.

Your post adds absolutely nothing to the conversation so please leave this thread to those of us who like playing burglars and would like to discuss strategies to make the best of what we have available whether the skills are broken or not.

To the others that posted, thanks for the input. I'll try some of the suggestions.

I didnt try spiders or trolls, since I can always find a group in kin to do dailies with, but did learn how to solo trees because I wanted the task items ( and getting them all is awesome)

I remained traited QK but changed to Misschief to have Riddle available all the time.

I would DPS untill I got low on morale and then Riddle the tree.
The lowest I got him was to 28K but that was rare.

Then wait for Riddle to almost expire, I would:
Dust in the Eyes - Startling Twist
Counter Defense ( while moving behind him) Crit Chain ( Flashing Blades)
Misschievious Delight - Disable
DPS till low on morale again.
I tried to use Subtle Stab as often as possible, to get Misschievious Delight CD Down, but most of the time I wasn't able to get in another before I needed the Riddle.
Problem is the trees can crit for quite a lot, so when under 2K morale I didn't want to risk anything.
( I also prevered to Riddle then use Morale Pots, just to bring the cost down of the fight)

Once I got the hang of it, it went faster and faster.
Most of the times it required only 2 Riddle before the Tree went down.
The 30 seconds it is riddled is a nice breather to chat a little in Kin.

Originally Posted by ifreborn1

it is clear that the class is broken through from running this. to dependent on a mez and waiting for cool down when mezzing. feels clunky and akward.

i've done it multiple times - and never used riddle to get away and wait until Stun is ready - if you do enough dmg it will work without that :P

Today I was being impatient to get to kindred with LG so decided to go soloing. Was really easy except for the trolls. They can suprise you with a nasty crit

Was running in QK stance traited 5 red, perplexing riddle and leafwalker. Got 20% gamble chance on my bag for these things so IFA+provoke mezzes for 80% and can be used every 15 sec! (you love it ^^). I sneak up on them and then riddle them (sort of 5 sec stun with perplex riddle) open with SS. then apply a trick and dps till it gets out of mez. then startling twist...dps...provoke mez...mez drops->knives out..disable trick..mez..TnG..dps till TnG runs out..stun or riddle mez etc

You can easy lock it down with mezzes en stuns (CJ stuns also) to get it down. and if ur really down on health just regen abit and go on
Soloed the trees, spiders and trolls that way and only died once from a troll when he was at 1k health and landed some lucky crits on me. :P

Burgs ftw!

It's ubber easy with gambler.

First equip physical mitigation virtues, it's all common damage. Also keep improved disable on the target all the time.

Now it's just chain-mezzing like crazy and when no mezz or stun is up, debuff gamble. They should go down pretty fast. Make sure to use subtle stab as much as possible so you can heal/mezz with glee more often. When using damaging gamble, just hit knives out for the duration of the gamble before mezzing again.

For trolls the more you mezz them, the less they get momentum buffs.

I get the 70k trees and spiders down with relative ease in QK, the trolls can be a toss up depending on how many off-crits I'm getting vs their momentum buffs. If I don't have them at least halfway down by the time they've got 3 buffs, I'm probably going to reset and save myself the dread. I've considered trying a gambler build for better survivability, but I wasn't convinced making the fight last longer would improve my odds much.

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IT is just that every class can do these solo in some way. the way they have balanced the burg is lame. the class is too squishy and to dependent on the mez. It just feels dumb sitting their mezzing a half dead target to wait for cool downs. It is a verry poor game mecanic. The 30 sec to a min waiting on cool downs and time to regen is not my idea of compeling game content.

They should have just accepted the mez was one path to "eassy mode" said well even though they can do content this way it realy does not feel right lets give them somthing else, another path.

Like i said it was a tone of fun on my RK kite dps/healing will most likely be a tone of fun on my LM.

hopefully the right eyes will see this and take somthing usefull from it.

Originally Posted by Aw_De_Oh

... If they do the latter, Enrage-Provoke to force it onto their squishies.

Haven't bothered going there yet but you Sir, you Sir, are Top-Grade Class

Originally Posted by ifreborn1

If you dont like my feed back dont read it is not intended for you


IT is just that every class can do these solo in some way. the way they have balanced the burg is lame. the class is too squishy and to dependent on the mez. It just feels dumb sitting their mezzing a half dead target to wait for cool downs. It is a verry poor game mecanic. The 30 sec to a min waiting on cool downs and time to regen is not my idea of compeling game content.

They should have just accepted the mez was one path to "eassy mode" said well even though they can do content this way it realy does not feel right lets give them somthing else, another path. [/img]

Burgs in QK stance can solo all the 70k mobs out there in under 45s (aka one riddle, one twist, maybe two glees) without even hitting TnG. Its a powerful class.

Originally Posted by harman097

Burgs in QK stance can solo all the 70k mobs out there in under 45s (aka one riddle, one twist, maybe two glees) without even hitting TnG. Its a powerful class.

i guess we can expect a video in a day?

Originally Posted by ifreborn1

i guess we can expect a video in a day?

My comp can't handle fraps, so you'll have to be satisfied with screenies - unless someone else wants to post. I'm only posting troll pics as those are the hardest and I'm already done with my limlight rep at this point so... no thanks.





Not my best (fastest) effort but the screenies show that 1) I did all the damage to it 2) I only received heals from myself 3) I didn't hit TnG or FF or throw in an extra cj stun 4) I'm alive 5) It is dead.

It did take 55s as opposed to the advertised 45s, however as you can also see in the pics I didn't use more than one riddle. I distinctly remember killing mobs before riddle could come back off cd (I open with it from stealth) so you'll just have to take my word for it that its doable, unless someone else feels like posting a kill.

Nice job Harman, would you mind posting what eq/LI's/relics and traits you run with? Resolution of the images is too low to make out your burgs name to inspect via mylotro.

45 seconds is do-able if your skill rotation is up to it, that's the only caveat. 75k Troll in 45 secs = 1666 DPS.

30 seconds of Touch and Go, Find Footing if you get stunned, 10 seconds of Knives Out, Mis. Glee, Pot - no real survival danger.

Originally Posted by Mordimac

Look mate, stop trolling the Burglar forums with your burg's are useless compared to everything else krap. Don't like the playstyle then don't play a burg, it's that simple.

Your post adds absolutely nothing to the conversation so please leave this thread to those of us who like playing burglars and would like to discuss strategies to make the best of what we have available whether the skills are broken or not.

To the others that posted, thanks for the input. I'll try some of the suggestions.

Here's a classic example of a Burg trying to solo a Troll and failing

[TRADE]: WTS [25 Troll Food] 10g pst

Had a browse in Limlight; found a 70k troll, didn't know about his self-buffs (raised an eyebrow*) took about 90 seconds but no real issues.

Suspect the next will die quicker; in so-far as those Trolls go, can't see any drama.

Nothing like a bit of hubris so reckon I'll get stomped next time

Gambler Traited, few bits of ToO gear.

*Irritated that our 'Advanced' Twist isn't so 'Advanced'.

A burg can kill anything solo that can be mezzed (Dont use dots and riddle when in danger)

However you can kill any 75k mob in the limelight gorge without using the riddle approach.

Traited 5QK I can just straight out DPS down any of the 75k mobs but there is a good chance I will need to use touch and go.
Use all of the normal burgs tricks to prevent damage:
- Always keep disable on the mob (I don't bother to trait for it)
- Use startling twist every time it is off cool down
- Don't forget you can use exploit opening and/or marbles if you need a timely stun and twist is on cd
- knives out gives you 10s of major damage prevention
- Use touch and go if the the fight is going badly

Traited gambler is MUCH easier. I can straight burn down any of the 75k mobs without waiting for my touch and go cooldown. Why? Gambler has lots of extra ways to stop the opponent from damaging you and its frontal dps is right on par with 5QK spec
- Spam subtle stab so about every 20s or so you can use mischievous delight to mez (which stops its attacks)
- Keep on DPSing and as soon as it starts hitting you again use gamblers strike (mezed again)
- Keep on hitting it. Used clever retort followed by gamblers strike to debuff the #### out of it for 15s
- Use surprise strike every time it is off cd. (Since you always have a gamble on the target it does an extra 350 or so damage every time it hits)