There's already an imbalance in the ratio of freeps to creeps most of the time in the moors, there's no need for wargs to use the bug to burn people down.
I didn't use the counter defence/addle exploit and the person who's doing it right now is only going to draw attention to their warg.
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Last edited by Macgregor1821; Mar 21 2012 at 06:20 AM.
Pre-RoI R8 warg Brandywine R7 BA Brandywine R5 WL Brandywine R5 Warg Landroval R6 warg Vilya R5 BA Vilya
Here I thought they got rid of the burg bug... and it's back, now there's a warg bug involving instants? nice.
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I don't believe this has been labeled a bug yet. The tooltip for the skill (and I am assuming you are talking about the lack of BPE from some shadow stance skills) says that the particular 4 skills will act as if they came from stealth. One of those perks of "from stealth" is a lack of B/P/E. Unless some dev has commented on this and I am unaware I would not classify this as a bug yet.
Look at Vital Target/Steadfast Barrage for example.. there is no B/P/E on either of those either.
We don't know if this is even a bug like Rash said. It could be WAI. Also, EVERYONE uses Shadow Stance. I don't think anyone is going to drop a whole stance (especially noobs who don't have Flayer) because a few people thinks it's a bug when it might not even be.
and it's only two skills. Bloody Maul and Bestial Claws, Swipe and Eye rake never could really be BPE'D in the first place.
I assume by warg bug in relation to the burg bug, he meant the stacking of crit skills from stealth in the matter of seconds... the whole attacking from stealth and negating all b/p/e seems to be WAI.
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I assume by warg bug in relation to the burg bug, he meant the stacking of crit skills from stealth in the matter of seconds... the whole attacking from stealth and negating all b/p/e seems to be WAI.
That's bad enough but no, it's actually a way of shifting stances in mid combat which is not as intended.
Last edited by Macgregor1821; Mar 21 2012 at 06:26 AM.
Pre-RoI R8 warg Brandywine R7 BA Brandywine R5 WL Brandywine R5 Warg Landroval R6 warg Vilya R5 BA Vilya
That's bad enough but no, it's actually a way of shifting stances in mid combat which is not as intended.
Huh? You mean dropping a stance waiting ten seconds and hitting another? I mean unless there's an exploit where they can do it back to back, during that 10 seconds wargs are pretty much losing both survivability and damage. Champs can stance dance, burgs can stance dance, hunters can, guards can, and even Blackarrows.
Last edited by eagleeye64; Mar 18 2012 at 07:34 PM.
I usually dont comment on utter nonsense like this but damn.... if you think switching stances mid combat is an exploit then hell all the minis, hunters, guards and champs that have done over the past 5 years should be reported immediately. But then again it doesnt really matter what you think, does it?
I did not "stance dance" at all during the time which pibb refers to.
Originally Posted by eagleeye64
We don't know if this is even a bug like Rash said. It could be WAI. Also, EVERYONE uses Shadow Stance. I don't think anyone is going to drop a whole stance (especially noobs who don't have Flayer) because a few people thinks it's a bug when it might not even be.
and it's only two skills. Bloody Maul and Bestial Claws, Swipe and Eye rake never could really be BPE'D in the first place.
Flank nailed it on the head... I was only using bloody maul and bestial claws. So if those 2 skills are an exploit Im guilty as charged.
In regards to stance dancing from shadow to flayer or no stance to flayer... the devs feel this is WAI, they kept the cds on stances 10s (pretty long)...
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So your still accusing me of stance dancing? I start in shadow stance in stealth and I am in shadow stance throughout combat. I try and stay off these forums because of potential conflict. I'm honestly stating the truth.
Last edited by badjerpoo; Mar 21 2012 at 10:59 AM.
So you want to play he said she said and then I gotta take the trouble to start screenshotting everywhere I go to back up what I say?
that picture does not prove he was in flayer stance since both stances have the same icon. unless im missing something in the picture it does not say flayer anywhere. looks like he is most likely in shadow since you dont have the second icon showing the flayer bubble.
all i see in the other pictures is people winning about how they got beat by a warg. ive noticed since the update im able to beat minis with ease on mine. just play the game pibb. you got beat get over it!
time to get more audacity. then when wargs crit we will still be alive.
That hobbit you just called fat? He's skipping 2nd breakfast.
The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man.
The Uruk-Hai you just killed? he's been abused by Saruman.
See that Gollum creature with the gangly limb and large eyes? For 500 years the ring poisoned his mind.
That elf you just made fun of for crying? She just lost her wizard friend to a Balrog.
Put this as your signature if you're against bullying in Middle-earth!
Oh is the freep angry when warg can hit 1k a swipe?
its just epic, and fits style of wargs, BUT wargs shouldnt have any escape/panic skills if we can do that kind of damage.
that picture does not prove he was in flayer stance since both stances have the same icon. unless im missing something in the picture it does not say flayer anywhere. looks like he is most likely in shadow since you dont have the second icon showing the flayer bubble.
all i see in the other pictures is people winning about how they got beat by a warg. ive noticed since the update im able to beat minis with ease on mine. just play the game pibb. you got beat get over it!
I LOVE THESE SCREENSHOTS WITH YOU DEAD )) SHOW ME MORE, and btw you are an idiot concerning the bug issue, also you have no idea how to play. As I said show me more dead pibbs. btw that interface is very flovery
From Update 7 bullroarer....
•Fixed a bug where swapping stances would leave pack hunter and pack flayer effects on a target.
It seems pibb was right!
That hobbit you just called fat? He's skipping 2nd breakfast.
The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man.
The Uruk-Hai you just killed? he's been abused by Saruman.
See that Gollum creature with the gangly limb and large eyes? For 500 years the ring poisoned his mind.
That elf you just made fun of for crying? She just lost her wizard friend to a Balrog.
Put this as your signature if you're against bullying in Middle-earth!
That would be because burgs cannot switch stances while in combat...
If you're referring to the counter defence and addle bug, it doesn't work anymore. Players using this exploit got the ban. Seem familiar mr. kingofblackarrows?
1. i've never played against a burg ( or any freep for that matter)
2. This post was to confirm a bug which has been denied my multiple people. I'm sure if you knew of a burg bug in which you knew a burg was using it, you'd call them out on it as well.
That hobbit you just called fat? He's skipping 2nd breakfast.
The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man.
The Uruk-Hai you just killed? he's been abused by Saruman.
See that Gollum creature with the gangly limb and large eyes? For 500 years the ring poisoned his mind.
That elf you just made fun of for crying? She just lost her wizard friend to a Balrog.
Put this as your signature if you're against bullying in Middle-earth!
The bug isn't swapping stances... it's still having the benefits of a stance when you toggle out of it or drop it... kinda like champs dropping fervour with improved flurry, and still having flurry active for a short duration. Anyway, there are still many things left broken in U7, that are more detrimental to pvp imho (melee combat in particular)... like the F'ING U6 LAG TURBINE!
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glory champs can pop out of glory and still have the exulted combatant for 45 sec, but i didn't know fervour champs could get the flurry when they dropped fervour.
That hobbit you just called fat? He's skipping 2nd breakfast.
The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man.
The Uruk-Hai you just killed? he's been abused by Saruman.
See that Gollum creature with the gangly limb and large eyes? For 500 years the ring poisoned his mind.
That elf you just made fun of for crying? She just lost her wizard friend to a Balrog.
Put this as your signature if you're against bullying in Middle-earth!
glory champs can pop out of glory and still have the exulted combatant for 45 sec, but i didn't know fervour champs could get the flurry when they dropped fervour.
You get it for a short duration after you drop or switch stances... same thing with 'improved exchange of blows'... except it turns into the ###### version when you switch out of glory (it only reflects on common dmg at 50%)... let's just say Turbine has a few kinks it needs to work on in regards to stances... but given the amount of times I've reported the bug regarding Swift Blade and the power reduction on our rune not WAI... I don't expect them to be fixed in a year... at least a year.
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