Thread: A message to the Better Freeps...

BW drama never fails, or does it?

Originally Posted by Therealmvp

Ok, important stuff first, huckle watch it with the dwarves, I dunno skull but the fact that he is a dwarf is enuf by itself.


Arydin, arydin, arydin ... First of all I didnt bother writing this book just to bash malarick. It was just a comment (freedom of speech remembah?) on his post. Second, I did idd bash with my big dorf-shield, BUT this doesn't mean that what i said was wrong. I was 100% on point on everything I said, otherwise you woulda disagree with something, but you didn' t (according to your post). You just touched the racist thing i put into which was totally irrelevant with my whole point, just an example. And please, simply put, don' t give me the usual: ITS JUST A GAME!!!!!! #### because game or not you still spend hours on it and that makes it real enough, it becomes a part of your life. Or else why would you bother checking the forums...? Why would you bother replying even though it wasnt really your concern? From your reply, you seemed to be offensive - like you actually care - while you coulda simply just go to the moors and kill some creeps/freeps, whatever, without caring about the forum debates and politics.

Also, malarick is elitist, simply because he invites only certain people of certain ranks and he doesnt give everyone a shot, for the same exact reason. It' s just there are some things he doesn' t understand yet and I don' t blame him about it. On the other hand it doesn' t matter, but whatever...

Anyway, U6 is out guys! have fun all.

Sooo... you go head and say that your dillusional thoughts wasn't the point you were trying to make out of your original post... then go head and post more dillusional thoughts. Anyways, I do give everyone a chance in my raids. As long as they are lvl 75, and dont have quest gear/lvl 65 third ages which I have seen btw. Guess I should just invite hunters with 3k morale and hit for 100s on creeps with swift bow. My bad.

Originally Posted by Jeffor

I'm not sure if I am a better Freep or not. Am I still allowed to read this thread?

Maybe... didn't feel like looking up a meme for sarcasm. BERSO WHERE U AT WHEN I NEED YOU DUDE?

Originally Posted by Oronwe

Ummm.....yeah....

This is a game, and those are pixels.

Once again, If you don't like us no name, bad freeps why waste your time grouping with us.
We're more than happy facerolling our keys and making silly noises without you.

As to these continued attacks on fellow players, both Freep and Creep....

I believe the issue with the U.S of M. is a simple case of PEBKAC.
For the ppl that are not aging geeks like me that's:

Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.

I never said I didn't like you. I just said that you being in Skullslicers raids is a turn off to the more veteran freeps that have a better, more well-rounded playstyle in raids, and make freep raids a lot more successful then someone such as randomfreepwith65thirdage#1

Originally Posted by Therealmvp

Where to begin Malarick.... Let' s take it step by step, shall we?



PS: I probably won' t bother looking at this thread again because I don' t tend to waste my time in forums, but whatever...

Originally Posted by spockerized

I want one of these

Originally Posted by Muzgakbash

ziras

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger31

BERSO WHERE U AT WHEN I NEED YOU DUDE?

Sorry was in the kitchen messing around w/ my brand new Slap Chop

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger31

I never said I didn't like you. I just said that you being in Skullslicers raids is a turn off to the more veteran freeps that have a better, more well-rounded playstyle in raids, and make freep raids a lot more successful then someone such as randomfreepwith65thirdage#1

I have raided with Skull, and you, and a whole host of others since 2007.

I shall enjoy my new status as an unsucessful out of round randomfreepwith65thirdage#1.

*Walks away humming happily to himself*

Originally Posted by Oronwe

I have raided with Skull, and you, and a whole host of others since 2007.

I shall enjoy my new status as an unsucessful out of round randomfreepwith65thirdage#1.

*Walks away humming happily to himself*

I still love you Belethad. <3

elitism?
Let the Class Warfare begin!
**** you greenies!

moar spider math
elitism = madcuzbad

What all of you stupid people do in 90% of forum posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoudYNeVn5E

PS: if freeps are functioning at 50% leading is pretty easy on that side

Mal, you always make me LOL

your posts are so weak its not even worth me responding any further.

Skull, keep leading and forget that 15 year old kid.

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger31

I never said I didn't like you. I just said that you being in Skullslicers raids is a turn off to the more veteran freeps that have a better, more well-rounded playstyle in raids, and make freep raids a lot more successful then someone such as randomfreepwith65thirdage#1

Oh i did not see this post.....AHAHHAHAHHAAH you just counted yourself out Mal.

You ranked an RK during easymode time and now after its nerfed hes on the shelf. LOL Yes you are indeed well rounded.

PS please post back and screenshot /played from your RK and /played on your Capt. I am DYING too see that Mr. Veteran.

Originally Posted by nachoooooooooooo

What all of you stupid people do in 90% of forum posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoudYNeVn5E

PS: if freeps are functioning at 50% leading is pretty easy on that side

Originally Posted by bladestr

What the heck is goin on up in here..

........oh, i see. Another american bar fight.

Carry on!

I don't play on Brandywhine or know any of you but...

>He responded that he doesn't want to make the map blue and would rather camp the rez for more renown

Are you serious? You state this as a testament to his prowess as a leader? Like, seriously, are you serious? You really think that's any better? Again, are you serious???

Wow.

Just wow.

Originally Posted by nachoooooooooooo

What all of you stupid people do in 90% of forum posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoudYNeVn5E

PS: if freeps are functioning at 50% leading is pretty easy on that side

The video explains it all perfectly, nice one arrik lol

Originally Posted by Asterius_the_Starry

I don't play on Brandywhine or know any of you but...

>He responded that he doesn't want to make the map blue and would rather camp the rez for more renown

Are you serious? You state this as a testament to his prowess as a leader? Like, seriously, are you serious? You really think that's any better? Again, are you serious???

Wow.

Just wow.

No, your first sentence explains why you posted this. Maybe if you got your facts straight, you'd know that Voa is someone who would say, "Ok, great idea, lets take lugs and make the map blue." In my opinion, most people probably think of Skullslicer as a Voa type leader, which is what I was trying to disprove. I was showing everyone that he isn't one of those "Voa type leaders."

Originally Posted by Rohgin

Mal, you always make me LOL

your posts are so weak its not even worth me responding any further.

Skull, keep leading and forget that 15 year old kid.

And you always make me get free renown. That makes sense, "your posts are so weak its not even worth me responding any further," yet right under that it shows you responding to one of my other posts. LOL? And skull isnt offended by this, he was thanking me in my attempt to try to get more veteran creeps to start joining his raids.

P.S. Sixteen... >.>

Originally Posted by Rohgin

Oh i did not see this post.....AHAHHAHAHHAAH you just counted yourself out Mal.

You ranked an RK during easymode time and now after its nerfed hes on the shelf. LOL Yes you are indeed well rounded.

PS please post back and screenshot /played from your RK and /played on your Capt. I am DYING too see that Mr. Veteran.

Uhm... No, I ranked an RK when it was actually worse than it was previously... I ranked it after ECs could hit for 10k EASY and when there wasnt the 1200 tactical offense gems. And actually, now after U6 RKs have gotten better I have only played my RK to get my commendations for my 6 second rally cry captain set. Now that I have it, I don't expect to be playing my RK much anymore besides leading. If you can tell me how RKs are worse now or how I was ranking my RK when RKs were easymode then PLEASE DO, I would love to see; but to me, it looks like I know a little more about RKs than you.

P.S, funny how all you creeps make these comments about how freeps only play a certain class during their OP period, yet the day after the update their was a spider support raid 4 days in a row... lol.

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger31

I saw very slight differences between myself, Arrik, and him.

There are a few pretty major differences between you and arrik. Arrik always attempts to make the fights even no matter what side he's leading on. If his side is constantly winning he will do something to give the loosing side an advantage to at least give them a chance instead of just either hiding in his own npc's with a superior group or go into farm mode until the other side gives up and logs.That is the biggest reason arrik has earned the respect from players on BOTH sides. I don't think that i'm the only creep that would rather see arrik leading over any1 else on creepside just because i know he won't just sit and hide all day long and the fights will be fun. win or loose doesn't matter when fighting arrik because the fights will almost always be fun and will probably end up breaking even on the night. Instead of having 1 sided fights all night long that really aren't that much fun. (at least to me)That alone sperates arrik from the rest of the leaders besides mere (most of the time anyways lol)

Originally Posted by ssn

There are a few pretty major differences between you and arrik. Arrik always attempts to make the fights even no matter what side he's leading on. If his side is constantly winning he will do something to give the loosing side an advantage to at least give them a chance instead of just either hiding in his own npc's with a superior group or go into farm mode until the other side gives up and logs.That is the biggest reason arrik has earned the respect from players on BOTH sides. I don't think that i'm the only creep that would rather see arrik leading over any1 else on creepside just because i know he won't just sit and hide all day long and the fights will be fun. win or loose doesn't matter when fighting arrik because the fights will almost always be fun and will probably end up breaking even on the night. Instead of having 1 sided fights all night long that really aren't that much fun. (at least to me)That alone sperates arrik from the rest of the leaders besides mere (most of the time anyways lol)

Tl ; DR. Stop thinking by that one sentence I meant that I am exactly like Arrik. I was simply talking about 3 main qualities.

1. Loud
2. Willing to curse
3. Wreckless at times.

Btw, I didnt read anything besides the 1st sentence, but what you said in the first sentence is pretty much what I said in my sentence. I said there are similar qualities but still slight differences.

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger31

Uhm... No, I ranked an RK when it was actually worse than it was previously... I ranked it after ECs could hit for 10k EASY and when there wasnt the 1200 tactical offense gems. And actually, now after U6 RKs have gotten better I have only played my RK to get my commendations for my 6 second rally cry captain set. Now that I have it, I don't expect to be playing my RK much anymore besides leading. If you can tell me how RKs are worse now or how I was ranking my RK when RKs were easymode then PLEASE DO, I would love to see; but to me, it looks like I know a little more about RKs than you.

P.S, funny how all you creeps make these comments about how freeps only play a certain class during their OP period, yet the day after the update their was a spider support raid 4 days in a row... lol.

RK's have ever been difficult to play? i havent played my rk during RoI so i cant comment on that(athough U6 RK seems very very powerful from what i saw on bullroarer/a few fights in live already), although i did play mine in the moors pre-RoI for a while. i pretty much gave it up cause it was so easy. when i can beat arguably the best reaver on the server 1v1, with #### for gear(i had a mix of quest and moria gear LOL) and pretty much anyone else i came across, i cant say it was ever too difficult from my experience. the only person that beat me 1v1 every time, as far as i remember, was zorkash, and even then it was as simple as him pre-potting my stuns, which no others seemed to know how to do

. Back when the lvl cap was at 60, i didnt play this game a whole lot due to boredom, so i dont know how they were during that period.

Originally Posted by 0987654321

RK's have ever been difficult to play? i havent played my rk during RoI so i cant comment on that(athough U6 RK seems very very powerful from what i saw on bullroarer/a few fights in live already), although i did play mine in the moors pre-RoI for a while. i pretty much gave it up cause it was so easy. when i can beat arguably the best reaver on the server 1v1, with #### for gear(i had a mix of quest and moria gear LOL) and pretty much anyone else i came across, i cant say it was ever too difficult from my experience. the only person that beat me 1v1 every time, as far as i remember, was zorkash, and even then it was as simple as him pre-potting my stuns, which no others seemed to know how to do

. Back when the lvl cap was at 60, i didnt play this game a whole lot due to boredom, so i dont know how they were during that period.

gave it up to play your minstrel?

Originally Posted by 0987654321

RK's have ever been difficult to play? i havent played my rk during RoI so i cant comment on that(athough U6 RK seems very very powerful from what i saw on bullroarer/a few fights in live already), although i did play mine in the moors pre-RoI for a while. i pretty much gave it up cause it was so easy. when i can beat arguably the best reaver on the server 1v1, with #### for gear(i had a mix of quest and moria gear LOL) and pretty much anyone else i came across, i cant say it was ever too difficult from my experience. the only person that beat me 1v1 every time, as far as i remember, was zorkash, and even then it was as simple as him pre-potting my stuns, which no others seemed to know how to do

. Back when the lvl cap was at 60, i didnt play this game a whole lot due to boredom, so i dont know how they were during that period.

When did I say that playing RK was difficult? I was simply disproving grisloks statement, since he was saying I ranked a RK when it was EZmode, even though I ranked it after it was EZmode.

RK's have been godmode since book 7 of Moria...and every following book since. Not hard to play one, easier than a hunter.

Originally Posted by Warleadersneedlove

RK's have been godmode since book 7 of Moria...and every following book since. Not hard to play one, easier than a hunter.

And this brings me to my post in another thread...

"Probly gonna get a lot of trolling, similar to my other posts.. but I really don't agree with this OPness of freeps that you are talking about. I don't know if its my class, I know that minstrels and champs are significantly better at 1v1s than RKs are. But I find a challenge when fighting high ranked wargs that know what they're doing, and sometimes lose. Yes, I do get very hard hits, some extremely high, such as the one on itzbitz, but that was extremely rare and fully decked buffed out. But, the point of the RK is that you get to DPS hard but you get hit extremely hard as well, against wargs, I don't even think I reach 1k crits on my 2 basic skills(the ones that give me my epic conclusion buffs). I'm not sure if wargs are only 1v1ing me with traiting full tactical mitigation or what, but if I'm getting hit hard due to my squishiness, and barely hitting hard due to "something"? then I don't see what this OPness is about. I mean, I DO still lose 1v1s, and when I don't, it is normally very close. Maybe I'm just bad at 1v1s. /shrug."

You should be tearing through high ranked wargs like they're nothing...Ole never ever lost a 1v1 to a warg.

Originally Posted by Lookslegit

gave it up to play your minstrel?

no idea who this is, however maybe you should know the facts before commenting. i actually was leveling my mini before they got full heals in WS, and i would love for the WS healing penalty to come back, i may actually want to play him in the moors again. i mainly leveled it so i could heal for my kin, got R6 for the jewelry, may go for R8 for the shield, but cant really be bothered to. mini isnt all that fun in the moors unless it 2-3v1, which i do look for as much as possible.

could care less what you or anyone else thinks, i know why i play what i play.

Originally Posted by Warleadersneedlove

You should be tearing through high ranked wargs like they're nothing...Ole never ever lost a 1v1 to a warg.

Which brings me back to the last sentence of my most recent post. "Maybe I'm just bad at 1v1s. /shrug."

./agree with SSN. I spent ~ 3hrs in tells and in voice chat trying to explain this to Voa when he came over here. All I got out of him was evasive responses, trying to change the topic of conversation from zerging/farming to "creeps shouldn't take TR, the action is worse when TR is red". I know that Skullslicer has taken a page or two, or probably a couple of chapters from the book of Voa. I had a raid of 18 Friday night and tried to engage him at TR hotspot. He had roughly even numbers, but instead of fighting, he turned and led the retreat back to TR. It was like that most of the night, and only half of my raid was rank 8+, most of the ranked creeps that were usually on were in the spider raid or on freepside.

Malarick, you have spent many months on freep and creepside. You know what its like on both sides. You should have learned by now that if any freep leader that does nothing to challenge the people in the raid they will faceroll. Facerolling is a tough habit to break. So leading a raid to destroy all the creeps on the map is just doing you a disservice. Creeps will log and freeps will get lazy.

Voa prided himself on allowing anyone into his raid. But despite PvPing with every freep and creep class, he did nothing to teach anyone how to play their class better in the moors. One of his biggest excuses was that in taking anyone in his raids, he couldn't go toe to toe with a creep raid. Eight months later he has a kin full of rank 6-10 people who STILL don't know how to best play their class in the moors.

Skullslicer, I don't personally know you and this is nothing personal. I just really miss good, 5-10 minute battles where at the end only half or so of one of the raids was left standing. Both sides got plenty of infamy/renown, it was a challenge to both sides and everyone had fun. Its no fun to roll over your opponent, and its no fun to fight overwhelming numbers or even fewer numbers for that matter and get just a kill or two.

Here's a few tips, free of charge:

1) If you see a target bubbled, switch. -90% incoming damage means unless that target is at 1 or 2k morale, or there are no healers, its going to live. Staying on that target for the 15 second duration of the bubble is just a waste of DPS. Voa does this all the time, and it makes me cringe that after at least 3 years he either still takes this game personally and has a personal vendetta against whoever he has on target, or he doesn't know that the target is bubbled.

2) Out of combat rezzing is pretty cheap. Especially when fighting even numbers, a freep raid should almost always win with just in combat rezzes. Minis should almost never be doing this in the moors.

Let me break this one down with some scenarios.
The average creep raid has 6 WL's, that's 5 people per rez optimally, so when you wipe a creep raid, plus rezzes, that's an average of 54 kills. That's a lot of renown. At an average of 15 renown/kill that's 810 renown, after just five minutes of fighting. Do that every 15 minutes or so, and you'll begin to understand why Brandywine is an RvR server.

- Freeps die much slower than creeps, higher mitigations, and do much more damage. (I've been hit by Shanehere for 1k on an AUTO-ATTACK, with banners down.) So if its a solid 5 minute fight, creeps would have burned about all their rezzes and if you kill everyone you get 800 renown. Creeps on the other hand in this scenario are able to mostly sustain DPS and healing depending on what you focus on, creeps get kills and even though they wipe, get maybe 20 kills with a couple of cappy rezzes that were blown so roughly 300 infamy.

But creeps lost, and will not open field again without goldtags, or will fight when you have NPCs on you or are somehow at a disadvantage.

- You fight open field with even numbers roughly, get some in combat rezzes, maybe an rk getting an out of combat or two, but in the end you lose to the creep raid. Creeps got 30 kills, so 450 infamy, but they had to blow 6 rezzes to do it and still have a few dead that they are getting up with defilers. You got 33 kills, so 495 renown unless you had the ON buff, which freeps seem to have 70% of the time, where you would have gotten 594 renown. So even in 'losing' you came out ahead.

- Or You start blowing out of combat rezzes as soon as you engage to keep your raid up at all times. You wipe the raid quickly, creeps get just a few kills, but can't sustain DPS or heals and so they bail after one or two rezzes. In this scenario you get about 300 renown, mostly from chasing down creeps running from the battlefield. After this the next time you engage creeps will definitely have more numbers or wait until you are at a serious disadvantage.

Try and keep this in mind when leading. I know its a lot on top of: which tagets do we need to kill first?, what are the strengths of my raid?, what are the weaknesses of the creep raid?, and where is the creep raid? All of this is very dynamic, but as you gain knowledge and experience it will start to come naturally.

Just be sure that at the end of the day when you leave or your raid disbands, everyone, on both sides, should be the better for it. A little bit of knowledge, some experience, some renown/infamy, and most importantly a good time. Its a game, have fun, and let the good times roll

lol this while thread is a joke. The next time I get to fight one craid and only 1 craid at a time i'll do freakin backflips. Until then I guess i'll be stuck fightin craids inside TA tyrant rooms, Craids/packs n craid/2nd craid out in the open. You know, u guys do what ya want .... and I know I'm completly off topic here but, u all want fraid leaders to bring the fight to you when u outnumbered/advantage or back off when 2nd raid engages .....


Hmmm I can seem to recall doing these things repeadily, yet and I CAN'T recall this same respect being given to me. So ya know what, ya'll want those fair fights n respect then give n take. Until then .... Voa roll the god damn map blue and make all the whiney ### babies log off.

I just have to say tonights rvr brought back fun memories, push push push push 40+ creeps. Take defensive stand after being over agressive all night creeps log in one big bam. I'm sure we made easily 4x the points not cause of the amount of kills but the factor of 2 seperate groups and the gt's so its all good i can go barter my 9th commendation piece :P WTB Mere for more challenging rvr without the witch king lag fest.

Btw - we should totally turn this into the new BW pvp rvr drama thread :P

Originally Posted by jmez

lol this while thread is a joke. The next time I get to fight one craid and only 1 craid at a time i'll do freakin backflips. Until then I guess i'll be stuck fightin craids inside TA tyrant rooms, Craids/packs n craid/2nd craid out in the open. You know, u guys do what ya want .... and I know I'm completly off topic here but, u all want fraid leaders to bring the fight to you when u outnumbered/advantage or back off when 2nd raid engages .....

1 craid vs 1 fraid=fraid never loses and farms the hell out of the craid

Originally Posted by jmez

Hmmm I can seem to recall doing these things repeadily, yet and I CAN'T recall this same respect being given to me. So ya know what, ya'll want those fair fights n respect then give n take. Until then .... Voa roll the god damn map blue and make all the whiney ### babies log off.

I have never seen you push an advantage in RvR unless after wiping the creep raid at least 4 times.

Originally Posted by YesMaam

I just have to say tonights rvr brought back fun memories, push push push push 40+ creeps. Take defensive stand after being over agressive all night creeps log in one big bam. I'm sure we made easily 4x the points not cause of the amount of kills but the factor of 2 seperate groups and the gt's so its all good i can go barter my 9th commendation piece :P WTB Mere for more challenging rvr without the witch king lag fest.

Lawl Gris had 14 Arrik had 13. Not the 40+ you're thinking about. I'm sure you made double the points, but each tribe raid made more than you overall

*Separate

QQ more !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrRWw07F7k

freepside 24/7

We never had 40 on the field tonight. And RKs were only truly god mode during bk7. But here is an animated gif of Lindsay to keep this thread interesting,

Originally Posted by Warleadersneedlove

1 craid vs 1 fraid=fraid never loses and farms the hell out of the craid



I have never seen you push an advantage in RvR unless after wiping the creep raid at least 4 times.




Lawl Gris had 14 Arrik had 13. Not the 40+ you're thinking about. I'm sure you made double the points, but each tribe raid made more than you overall

*Separate

QQ more !

lol plz kid, dont even try to go there. Your the VOA of creepside. The first sigthing of my raid you RUN to a red keep, cows, some type of npcs ... and dont even deny you do. you dont even ATTEMPT a open field fight. The last 2 weeks only fights i've had wit u were in red lc, red TA or u wit a craid + support craid/pack. The only time u engaged open field was when I had a noob fraid wit me lol, and even after two wiped by us when u seen us again, you immediatly ran into red LC.

your the biggest problem wit creepside going, you all complain about voa, you do the same ####. Have more defilers target forward healing through me plz, run into red keeps from fraids, go ninja keeps behind fraids backs. NEVER fight anywhere remotly close to a disadvantage to you.

As for me not pushing? Plz .... i'm not even gonna dignify this wit a further repsonse. There's a reason I have u on ignore in game, and if I can figure out how ot forum ignore I will too ... until u get youself banned again on here. How many accounts u have to make now? 6? 7? Your the voa of creepside dude, but it's ok u do your thing. I think I can safely say most freeps are tired of your #### and most dont even wanna pvp when you out cause we know its gonna be a bore fest. No fights unless we charge a red keep.

But u go head, keep makin those funny comments in your raids, cursin left and right since it wont get u grounded here .... far as the rest of us go ... we're gonna have fun DESPITE u and your lame ### #### .... and me personally i'ma disband whenever u form a raid .... i'll let ya zerg solo's ... ala voa .... since it's what u do best.

Its ashme too since u used to be a good leader, one who gave n took .... we had cival discussions about stuff, talked ####, what not but all was in fun. now....

your just a big headed internet tool who is finally happy ppl pay attention to him somewhere.

here's to this thread bein locked ... u bein banned .... happy st patty's ... make us all some big mac's wit fries plz. thxs