Discussion: A message to the Better Freeps...

I was in the Moors today and I formed a question for myself. Why don't the better players join Skullslicer when he leads? Well, I tried to find out myself by joining his raid today and I was stumped. I couldn't figure out why the better freeps don't join him. The only thing that I thought would be it is that there were too many voanauts in his raid already. Which is why I'm making this forum post telling all those people that join my raids that you should join skullslicers as soon as he starts advertising as well. Being in skullslicers raid today, I saw very slight differences between myself, Arrik, and him. He was willing to push TA, push into 15-20+ creeps with NPCs on us even with only 18 in the raid(and mostly no-names at that). After taking TA with tons of creeps on us, someone spoke up and said we should do lugz now. Skullslicer responded with saying he doesn't want to make the map blue and he'd rather camp them at the rez for more renown. These are obviously just two examples but there are plenty more. He pushed TR in attempt to get creeps to come right before this as well. He calls targets well, and is very charismatic. Anyways, just wanted to give you guys a heads up on what Skullslicers raids are like and hopefully I will be seeing you guys in his raids soon. Laterz

I have on occasion. My play was static today, including for PvP, so didn't join more than one Fraid.

Envoyé par WhiteTiger31

I saw very slight differences between myself, Arrik, and him.

bro you never really played freepside when arrik truly used to lead real raids. not trying to be a dick but freep raids are hardly needed anymore because a voa fail group can take on most all but the best of craids. the last thing this server needs is more transfer kins along with more fraid leaders when its hard enough to find any craids out to put up a resistance. fact is "better freeps" don't usually raid and stick to smaller groups unless its two heavy hitting raids like shanes and meres.

What I saw was a Freep raid farming solo Creeps inside keeps. I don't understand why did you guys make a raid anyway , it was just a bunch of solos camping EC with a little warg pack.

I've never joined one of his raids because every time he has one is when I am solo. I could care less who is in his raids. and I've always joined someone to see how they run if joining a raid is even necessary. So next time there is RvR and he is leading, i'll join.

1. He makes raids when creeps do not have a raid and "better freeps" realize this and do not enjoy zerging and therefore solo

2. He makes raids that are just second raids to the main fraid which "better freeps" are already in or don't want to join the extra "voanauts"(the hell...) raid which is hurting RvR.

Where to begin Malarick.... Let' s take it step by step, shall we?

[Why don't the better players join Skullslicer when he leads? Well, I tried to find out myself by joining his raid today and I was stumped. I couldn't figure out why the better freeps don't join him.]

First of all you have a very bad aspect of things... Some sick elitism, which is understandable. I ask you this, what makes you think that there aren't good players joining Voa' s raids himself...? I am referring to your aspect of good, meaning high-ranked and known... We all know that Voa' s raids are of low quality because he has the tendency to invite everyone... I really don' t see how this affects you at all. What affects does it have on you? If you were a creep you could complain about it but you' re not. You mind seeing the map blue? I don' t think so because i hardly see you soloing.

[Being in skullslicers raid today, I saw very slight differences between myself, Arrik, and him.]

Wow, wow, wow.... What on earthly heaven makes you think that you are on the same level as Arrik when it comes to leading...? Not even close, the fact that you get a perfect make-up fraid going, go sit in open field and all you do is call out targets doesn' t make you a good leader lad. I have seen you in certain situations, how you reacted when things where bad and your decisions were really bad. One thing comes in mind first, it made me lol hard... Beatle had a craid and he flipped lug while you were camping OC, so you got yourself entrapped between the rez and OC, there were 20ish gold-tagging creeps in OC. So... three routes of going out. Either lug Xr up to lug hill, or wtab (Blue TA), or south towards the river... And i watched you leading your fraid south towards the river so beatle mapped good ta and the gold-taggers came after you... All I watched you do was jumping up and down.... That was the worse case, but point is that inviting all the good players doesnt make you a good leader, you aren' t close to a leader mate, for one simple reason. I' ve watched it happening. All the good leaders in our server didn' t one day just decide: Hey what should I do today? OH!! how about becoming a leader....? No, it' s not like that, they generally didn' t intend it but it happened, they either got sick of a zerg and ended up forming up a succesfull raid and eventually get the respect of others or they watched other leaders and their techniques and gave it a shot themselves...
You my dear boy, decided one day to become a leader yourself!!! Because you thought it would be cool and it would make you RISE, like Shane,J,Arrik,Mere,Grislok etc... Actually i think that is the very reason that made you change your name to UnitedStates, prove me wrong... Anyway, you aren' t on the same level with them buddy, and you won' t be unless you get some more experience. If there was more ballance ingame at this update you would have realised, but there isn' t :/

As for skullslicer, I don' t personally know him, or joined his raid, or whatever but .... I' ve fought his raid while I was into Grislok' s raid and it was a total farm... All the guy was doing was to pretend to be aggressive by charging into us - tough guy - and constantly wiping and feeding us... Dicaprio claims that there were just ungrouped creeps into TA, I believe it... Probably you guys just pushed all the way up to TA facerolling gold-taggers and flipped it, huge deal.....

All those so called advantages you mentioned prove nothing more than an inexperienced player that sees things from a very standard aspect, like for example: Blue map = bad, It' s like i can hear my 5year-old cousin repeating that TV is bad, why? Because he hears it all day and just repeats it... As I staited above, blue map generally harms PVP but it affects solos mostly, when you are in a raid you don' t care that much about the colour of TA let' s say (If there is a craid out) rather than when you are solo because there won' t be any creeps there.... It' s mostly about the time you flip the map, if you log on at 5am EST and flip it blue, it will be disastrous simply because at this hour most creeps are questing so they can PVP later, but if you flip it and let' s say 9PM, it will either get all the creeps online or a craid leader might log and put up some good action.

To conclude with I personally (specullating only) believe that you are trying to make new friends, you would like the fact that a new leader would arise and you would be his ... friend.... Just keep one thing in mind buddy, the way you act in the game when you spend so many hours in it, it eventually affects you in real life... I' ve seen it on me, growing some elitism, even racism in IRL which originated from the game...

PS: I probably won' t bother looking at this thread again because I don' t tend to waste my time in forums, but whatever...

P.S.
Rank = Time Played...
Time Played =/= Expierence
Ability =/= Time Played
Ability =/= Rank

Envoyé par Therealmvp

PS: I probably won' t bother looking at this thread again because I don' t tend to waste my time in forums, but whatever...

And me as well... Nor did I bother reading your wall of text... Im guessing it was some form of trolling, but just wanted to get my point across that skullslicer isn't that bad of a leader as most think he is because most havent given him a chance. Laterz

A raid is only as good as its weakest link VS a worthy opponent, might I suggest you had a good experience because we hasn't leading VS a rank Mere or Evil raid? Why don't I join his raid? Simple. I only join a raid when a raid is needed (real craid out), and I've never seen him lead one at that time.

A) If the leader regardless of how good he is invites over 6 fail people then my chances of having solid RvR go down 30%.
B) If a leader has grouped repeatedly with Voa then he has no sense of intelligence.
C) I don't trust people that only lead raids when they think they can win. (Forming raid when un-needed, or outnumbered).
D) Whatever.

You know what? I'm sure Skullslicer is a nice guy! I'm sure he calls out targets. As for the things that really matter, I don't think you'll ever see me in there.

Envoyé par klover307

bro you never really played freepside when arrik truly used to lead real raids. not trying to be a dick but freep raids are hardly needed anymore because a voa fail group can take on most all but the best of craids. the last thing this server needs is more transfer kins along with more fraid leaders when its hard enough to find any craids out to put up a resistance. fact is "better freeps" don't usually raid and stick to smaller groups unless its two heavy hitting raids like shanes and meres.

By leading like Arrik I mean being wreckless and loud. And yes, I believe he has fought more veteran raid leaders before. Which is why im trying to raise awareness for his raids and get the more veteran freeps to join his raid instead of just sticking with a select group of raid leaders. Heck, all the vet freeps did this for varron and from my experience today skullslicer lead 5x better than I think varron ever will.

Envoyé par YesMaam

A raid is only as good as its weakest link VS a worthy opponent, might I suggest you had a good experience because we hasn't leading VS a rank Mere or Evil raid? Why don't I join his raid? Simple. I only join a raid when a raid is needed (real craid out), and I've never seen him lead one at that time.

A) If the leader regardless of how good he is invites over 6 fail people then my chances of having solid RvR go down 30%.
B) If a leader has grouped repeatedly with Voa then he has no sense of intelligence.
C) I don't trust people that only lead raids when they think they can win. (Forming raid when un-needed, or outnumbered).
D) Whatever.

You know what? I'm sure Skullslicer is a nice guy! I'm sure he calls out targets. As for the things that really matter, I don't think you'll ever see me in there.

Dude, he was fighting either beatle or grislok camping them at the rez. he wasnt fighting ungrouped creeps lol.

Envoyé par mager555

1. He makes raids when creeps do not have a raid and "better freeps" realize this and do not enjoy zerging and therefore solo

2. He makes raids that are just second raids to the main fraid which "better freeps" are already in or don't want to join the extra "voanauts"(the hell...) raid which is hurting RvR.

Just like I said to Yelk, he was fighting either Beatle or grislok(not totally sure which one), and no its normally he has the first raid then a veteran freep leader will make the second raid and it will turn into the main raid when in actuality it should be seen as skullslicer having the main raid in the first place... but that will only happen if the veteran freeps start joining him(especially before he starts inviting the newbie people), so he realizes whats going on and starts only taking the people that have names for themselves like most of the vet raid leaders do (sorry for run-on sentence) lol

Envoyé par Siege_of_Mirkwood

What I saw was a Freep raid farming solo Creeps inside keeps. I don't understand why did you guys make a raid anyway , it was just a bunch of solos camping EC with a little warg pack.

I dont know if it was ungrouped or grouped creeps at TA or not, but either or he still was willing to push the keep with 15-20 creeps on him and the tyrant, I just see potential and im trying to point it out to the vet freeps.

Envoyé par Therealmvp

the way you act in the game when you spend so many hours in it, it eventually affects you in real life... I' ve seen it on me, growing some elitism, even racism in IRL which originated from the game...

Just because you have some delusional issue doesn't mean everyone does. Damn.

Envoyé par dantheman865301

Just because you have some delusional issue doesn't mean everyone does. Damn.

lotro = real life. duhh

I'm not even going to bother.

I have limited playtime and then when I am on I'd rather just run around by myself and listen to music. Been used to solo all this time but the occasional raid doesn't hurt either.

Might be seeing more of me in raids if this whole wargpack thing gets to the extreme however.

Hi guys. Thanks for the kind words. As for any unkind words /yawn. I started out in the moors a while back when Arik was there every day leading raids. He's an awesome leader and a formidable opponent. If I lead a raid, everyone is welcome to have fun because that is what we're here for isn't it? I'm not going to try to be a serious raid leader or anything like that. When I lead I will try to make an effort to make sure no one is falling asleep at their keyboard. If we wipe we wipe, life goes on. I am NOT here to make enemies with anybody. I am NOT trying to be the next best of the best. As for those times when you've seen me be a "tough guy" and run in on a suicide mission, it's me being a ####### gold tagger and I know that some of the creeps are getting a laugh while my fellow freeps are shaking their heads and /sighing. Like I said before, I'm in it for fun. I will form a raid with everyone having their insert key on to march into battle. And yes I DID eat a lot of paint chips when I was a kid!

P.S. What is a "rating"? I keep hearing this term

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P.S. What is a "rating"? I keep hearing this term

The 3-4 digit number that supposedly affects your incoming renown/infamy which is based off the kills and deaths you have. It's on your wartab. Don't worry about it, it doesn't really matter.

As for a comment on the warg packs - I hope they keep camping tr rez. Made good renown off their sorry hides.

And in regards to freeps in general, as stated before:
rank =/= skill =/= leadership abilities =/= experience
Let the high-ranks enjoy their reality. I'll enjoy mine.

Malarick is just angry because he couldnt get his ebang on with laerdin, and had to go ask ziras for advice on how to pick up a girl. It's all good though

Wow this thread went from okay to basement in a hurry. Made me laugh though, Skull I for one enjoy fighting your raids weither I am solo (ungrouped) or in a craid. I tend to enjoy fighting anyone (besides Yelk) so makes no difference to me, though I do think if you all want to become better Fraid leaders you might try leading a Craid just once, I think Arrik, Yelk, Mere and Varron can tell you its not as easy as leading on freepside. Just my opinion and Im sure it will be trolled...dont much care if it is...aslong as there is rvr in the moors.

Have a nice day!

BW Vets that when they play on Fside rarely raid, in contrast to when on Cside. That's a trend as old as Moria update. For various reasons.

Most of the negatives of bad playstyle, & raid behaviour are usually 10 times worse in Fraids than Craids. So it'd be a fair question to reply WHY SHOULD THEY JOIN FRAIDS?

Reputation of the Fleader also tends to influence their recruitment. At worst, people won't join a raid simply because they don't like you. Because of your behaviour & or/ playstyle. Demanding people drop their perceptions just like that isn't realistic. Same as IRL as you may learn as you grow older.

People are people, just accept it and try to move on.

lol I was kidding about the rating thing. I also wanted to say that the last Varron raid I was in got me 4k in a short amount of time. Real productive day . I have had tons of renown with the following leaders: Voa, Shane, Malerick, Arrik, Varron, Yelk, Jmez, Yand, Eloquently, and there was that dude that had no mic (he was rank 2 I think?). If I missed anyone I'm sorry. Fact: most of my raids form because I start a kin group and get mad that we are getting zerged by 30+ creeps. Weather or not they are an actual craid does not matter to me because in my mind 5 small groups of 6 that gold tag off each other is close enough. I get claustrophobic when all I see are the stairs at GV. The one thing I like about creepside is that there seems to be more people willing to help each other and less OOC drama. I was on my rank 0 warg at the time and posted for a group to take an outpst, and BOOM I got 7 tells in under 5 minutes. I would like to see that on freep side as well. To think that people actually pay money to have a pissing contest on a video game just makes me feel sorry for them. Maybe they got bullied too much IRL and feel safer behind a computer monitor to act like a "gangsta"? If this is true, I am sorry. Keep your chin up because things will always get better (puberty only lasts for so long)

Envoyé par Muzgakbash

Malarick is just angry because he couldnt get his ebang on with laerdin, and had to go ask ziras for advice on how to pick up a girl. It's all good though

Were all just banging around... But seriously what does that have to do with anything :? Mal thinks hes a cool dude, whatevs play the game.

The funny thing is that most of the "better freeps", seems to be self-appointed. :P Or is there a committee that I've missed?

Skull - always fun to run with you or have you run with us! ./cheers

Envoyé par spockerized

Were all just banging around... But seriously what does that have to do with anything :? Mal thinks hes a cool dude, whatevs play the game.

Cybering is my middle name dawg!!

Ok so, I started to read the post and all the responses. The first bash on Malarick you said this game caused you to be a racist in real life, time to take a break....and seriously seek mental health.

As for running with Malarick....you don't have to like him but he is in fact a good leader. I have run with nearly every "leader" here and they all have good aspects. Are some more elistist than others, absolutely but I can attest that Malarick is not, he gives everyone a chance. Can he be a punk? Absolutely but so what, it's a game.

I really don't understand the bashing of anyone who leads raids whether it's evil, gris, Mal, Arrik, Jmez, Voa etc...everyone complains that the moors are boring and no one is out, then when someone decides to do something you complain about who is leading it. Really? This game isn't forced on anyone...you want action fight the raid on both sides, it doesn't matter who is leading (this goes for both sides). You don't want to then go solo. I think some people forget that you have a choice, so whine like a baby or go do something else.

I could care less who leads on either side, frankly I don't care enough about the internet to be invested in hating anyone. If you are going to say this will just empower bad players....there will always be bad players regardless of who is leading. Being Elistist is immature and insecure.....how about next time you see someone that sucks...help them get better....last time I checked no one here was God.

So if I have to spend my life on here, promote myself and bash other people to be part of the "in" crowd, then no thanks

For those who think I am just being all sunshine and unicorns....suck it....

What the heck is goin on up in here..

........oh, i see. Another american bar fight.

Carry on!

Envoyé par bladestr

What the heck is goin on up in here..

........oh, i see. Another american bar fight.

Carry on!

Least we fight each other not kangaroos! lol

Yea I dunno about none of this stuff goin on in this thread but I know that pic on facebook u put up on that girl was funny lol. I seen a chic do that one time in the middle of a club in a casino, thats just nasty lol.

Envoyé par jmez

Least we fight each other not kangaroos! lol

Yea I dunno about none of this stuff goin on in this thread but I know that pic on facebook u put up on that girl was funny lol. I seen a chic do that one time in the middle of a club in a casino, thats just nasty lol.

haha yeah she was pretty desperate. It was at a music festival i went to last weekend, so the toilet lines are usually km's long. As smexy as some of those girls are, some just aint ladies, lol.

Envoyé par WhiteTiger31

even with only 18 in the raid(and mostly no-names at that).

You lost me here. Everyone I have seen has had a name. Granted, some of the names are silly... I even saw one that said "UnitedStates"... however weird that may be, he still had a name.

I can absolutely assure you that the perception about who is "named" or not is 100% internal to each of you. Your inability to acknowledge that the rest of the game exists beyond and without you doesn't keep it from actually happening.

... but the real issue with Skullslicer is that he is a dwarf... I thought everyone knew that?!?

Envoyé par WeeBrain

The funny thing is that most of the "better freeps", seems to be self-appointed. :P Or is there a committee that I've missed?

Yeah, it felt like a trap the moment you click the reply button as the question was pretty open ended about who should answer. I just know I don't raid very much but when I do it's been enjoyable.

Ummm.....yeah....

This is a game, and those are pixels.

Once again, If you don't like us no name, bad freeps why waste your time grouping with us.
We're more than happy facerolling our keys and making silly noises without you.

As to these continued attacks on fellow players, both Freep and Creep....

I believe the issue with the U.S of M. is a simple case of PEBKAC.
For the ppl that are not aging geeks like me that's:

Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.

Envoyé par hucklebarry

... but the real issue with Skullslicer is that he is a dwarf... I thought everyone knew that?!?

wait... I'm a dwarf...i have a beard....beards are AWESOME!!!! therefore dwarves are AWESOME!!!!

please contact D.A.R.W.I.N Dwaves Against Racism While In Nature for more information on our noble cause at 1-800-UMADEMELOL.

Envoyé par PERFECTSIN

Being Elistist is immature and insecure

Using the word as an epithet is immature.

Ok, important stuff first, huckle watch it with the dwarves, I dunno skull but the fact that he is a dwarf is enuf by itself.


Arydin, arydin, arydin ... First of all I didnt bother writing this book just to bash malarick. It was just a comment (freedom of speech remembah?) on his post. Second, I did idd bash with my big dorf-shield, BUT this doesn't mean that what i said was wrong. I was 100% on point on everything I said, otherwise you woulda disagree with something, but you didn' t (according to your post). You just touched the racist thing i put into which was totally irrelevant with my whole point, just an example. And please, simply put, don' t give me the usual: ITS JUST A GAME!!!!!! #### because game or not you still spend hours on it and that makes it real enough, it becomes a part of your life. Or else why would you bother checking the forums...? Why would you bother replying even though it wasnt really your concern? From your reply, you seemed to be offensive - like you actually care - while you coulda simply just go to the moors and kill some creeps/freeps, whatever, without caring about the forum debates and politics.

Also, malarick is elitist, simply because he invites only certain people of certain ranks and he doesnt give everyone a shot, for the same exact reason. It' s just there are some things he doesn' t understand yet and I don' t blame him about it. On the other hand it doesn' t matter, but whatever...

Anyway, U6 is out guys! have fun all.

Envoyé par Oronwe

please contact D.A.R.W.I.N

Oh, is that the organisation that hand out that award each year?

I'm not sure if I am a better Freep or not. Am I still allowed to read this thread?

Envoyé par Jeffor

I'm not sure if I am a better Freep or not. Am I still allowed to read this thread?

noo nooobs. Guess i gotta leave the thread to then