Thread: ANV presents: A PvP video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FWQc5W1CY

Some clips of ANV small groups (2-4 man) over the last 3 or 4 days. The video is a bit long but we believe the action makes up for it. Hopefully people will see that small group PvP is viable and see what freep groups should be capable of doing.

Originally Posted by Kiddyfence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FWQc5W1CY

Some clips of ANV small groups (2-4 man) over the last 3 or 4 days. The video is a bit long but we believe the action makes up for it. Hopefully people will see that small group PvP is viable and see what freep groups should be capable of doing.

Long story short :

Freeps are currently ridiculously OP

Really? We didnt notice. Thanks for sharing

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

Long story short :

Freeps are currently ridiculously OP

Really? We didnt notice. Thanks for sharing

If it's attention you're after, worry not, you're probably in the video as well!

If not, here's a potential kill to appear on the next video:

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

Long story short :

Freeps are currently ridiculously OP

Really? We didnt notice. Thanks for sharing

Heart to heart

Thanks for posting the video, it has opened my eyes to the plight of the free peoples and just how underpowered they are in the 'moors.

Originally Posted by zaskoda

Heart to heart

So sorry if I broke Isindars Rules of Trolling and Gifs

Lol at the BA slayer t2.

For all the talk of freeps being op I sure saw a lot of really bad focus fire and target selection as well as creeps spending a lot of time running and being attacked in the back. Sure freeps may be better off than you but letting them outplay you doesn't help.

Man that music selection made me think of middle school. I feel like just leaving it playing in the background for the soundtrack :P

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

So sorry if I broke Isindars Rules of Trolling and Gifs

no rules br0, your pictures just suck

I really enjoyed this video. You are one of the most fearsome melee DPS out there.

- You have a weird PoV when you play, are you even max zoomed out? Do you call out targets because it looks like you don't do much panning aside from tab tagetting/assist the next creep.

- Good music selection

- How come you didn't include those group fights in ROP?

- How does it feel to have 2 captains giving you God mode Shield of Dunedain on 5 minute cooldowns?

Busting your balls aside despite playing freep in a state of the game where they are far superior in just about anything you are one of the best champions out there in group fights. I'd say you and Naegling are the most effective Champions in the moors. But let's not kid ourselves (no pun intended), in combat rezzes, 55%+ mitigations, on the move healing, god mode shields, group sprint, 45s sprint, 2 different bubbles, man heal, 5 min 3k morale heal, 2k+ DPS does not exactly make champion/captain duo/trio on par with anything creep has.

Originally Posted by Commish

I really enjoyed this video. You are one of the most fearsome melee DPS out there.

- You have a weird PoV when you play, are you even max zoomed out? Do you call out targets because it looks like you don't do much panning aside from tab tagetting/assist the next creep.

- Good music selection

- How come you didn't include those group fights in ROP?

- How does it feel to have 2 captains giving you God mode Shield of Dunedain on 5 minute cooldowns?

Busting your balls aside despite playing freep in a state of the game where they are far superior in just about anything you are one of the best champions out there in group fights. I'd say you and Naegling are the most effective Champions in the moors. But let's not kid ourselves (no pun intended), in combat rezzes, 55%+ mitigations, on the move healing, god mode shields, group sprint, 45s sprint, 2 different bubbles, man heal, 5 min 3k morale heal, 2k+ DPS does not exactly make champion/captain duo/trio on par with anything creep has.

For someone who never ever ever leaves the creep zerg you sure have a strong opinion about other peoples 'eazymoding' lol

As for the vid, 1 min 53 seconds was the best. About 5v2 and reaver dr runs, but dies lol

Looks like you need to do a creep video and show that you can do the exact same thing

Really good video, but I could not play with that camera angle. You guys did own the PK in it, but most of the fights you were fighting solos<meaning creeps that were not grouped> @ the rezz. For the OP it was a 3vs3 with a CG on them and at the end of the fight most of what I saw was all the NPC in there. Don't get me wrong most of ANV are some of the most skilled players on E, but to be fair you also had a great facerolling group. Would like to see the next video of you guys face rolling big groups or raids with a larger fellows, not solos. Thanks for the video man!!

I never get in a PvP video after 10 ranks on my champ but I play my WL for 2h and get in one? ### is this.....

Originally Posted by zaskoda

no rules br0, your pictures just suck

So says the bro with the small rep

LOL

Originally Posted by flyyoufools

Looks like you need to do a creep video and show that you can do the exact same thing

Was just about to say this. ( already of footage of creep pvp)

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

So says the bro with the small rep

LOL

is that a challenge I see?

BTW you may want to inform Alastris that Stun-Turning is a dishonorable practice

Hmmm, will these videos show how terrible of a BA I am?

While I think the vid personally is a tad long... I still think you should link it on the Daily stats site

this is a makeshift version of gala and shray duo's, no doubt.

Nice video guys,

Would love to see you taking on a group of 3-4 ranked creeps (with the equivalent healing of 2 cappies, ie 2WL or WL + defiler). I feel the low ranked creeps actually helped you more than if there were just the ranked creeps as with champ + cappy DPS and creep keyboard turning they just feed 4k in heals from 2x RC every 8s. Thats up to the creeps to form up and fight you though.

Seemed over the last couple of days it was either you farming the solo's or the zerg showing up to wipe you. Some balance between the two would of been nice.

p.s. pan the damn camera out -.-

Originally Posted by Apocatequil

Seemed over the last couple of days it was either you farming the solo's or the zerg showing up to wipe you. Some balance between the two would of been nice.

Yes it would be nice. Unfortunately, with the distinct lack of small grouping Creepside that is beyond our control.

Originally Posted by flyyoufools

Yes it would be nice. Unfortunately, with the distinct lack of small grouping Creepside that is beyond our control.

Nice sig Houndini

You are good at pushing buttons.

Liked.

Originally Posted by flyyoufools

Yes it would be nice. Unfortunately, with the distinct lack of small grouping Creepside that is beyond our control.

I know, its why I said it was up to the creeps

Its not just small groups though, its small groups with a very specific make up to take down that group heavy heals + heavy DPS. The joys of captains being crazily powerful right now, and about to become more powerful from tomorrow.

I need one more rank and I'll be a real reaver and then I can fight properly (thrash + mutilation = real reaver).

Originally Posted by Apocatequil

I know, its why I said it was up to the creeps

Ah right, somehow missed that. Thought it was a dig at us for electing to "farm solos" (which we certainly don't go out of our way to do) - so I was quick to defend.

Originally Posted by Apocatequil

I need one more rank and I'll be a real reaver and then I can fight properly (thrash + mutilation = real reaver).

./surrender

Originally Posted by flyyoufools

Ah right, somehow missed that. Thought it was a dig at us for electing to "farm solos" (which we certainly don't go out of our way to do) - so I was quick to defend.

Farming has lost its meaning now, it's thrown aroud so much on both sides. I just use the term when I feel theres minimal chance of a group dying in the situation they're in. It'd probably be more correct to say the lowbies were feeding you to obesity rather than farming I guess.

Originally Posted by Apocatequil

Would love to see you taking on a group of 3-4 ranked creeps (with the equivalent healing of 2 cappies, ie 2WL or WL + defiler).

A group of 3 well played ranked creeps would probably beat our duo more often than not as long as the group's build isn't too bad. I would imagine 4-5 creeps would similarly give us trouble or at least fight us to a stalemate with our 2 capts/1 champ group, although I can't say for sure as we've only run that group 2-3 times. Unfortunately, there are a rather limited number of well played ranked creeps, a considerable number of them only solo or duo, and some of the creeps that would give us trouble are played by us.

And as Hero said, the same thing can be done creepside - a small group continuously farming a larger group, albeit perhaps not to the same extent. It's just a matter of hoping that the other side plays poorly enough and that their numbers don't get too overwhelming.

Originally Posted by Kiddyfence

A group of 3 well played ranked creeps would probably beat our duo more often than not

Originally Posted by Kiddyfence

the same thing can be done creepside - a small group continuously farming a larger group.

Kid and I usually won't be able to beat a creep group of 5-6 if it's too BA heavy. Really, that's usually what dictates the outcome most of the time; granted, MT at least must be used. The other important factor is the amount of people that can keep up with the Captain's kiting. As you may imagine most key turners aren't much of a threat if the Captain knows how to sharp turn. And of course, you do not go for the Champ.

Originally Posted by Champtain

And of course, you do not go for the Champ.

If I gave a lecture to creeps on out of group coordination, this would be my main point in regards to small group fights.


They'd prolly still be dumb and fail, tho.

Nice video! A bit too long but some clips are nice to watch!

Ignoring the fact that freeps are horribly OP, you play your champ very well, swapping weapons in mid-combat, etc. Could you tell me how you keybind/play? Started playing freep lately and the increased ammount of buttons made my old setup useless, so I'd love to get some tips.

Some of the few freeps that can keep up with my super mouse-turn jukes. Nice job and good video.

nice video, i enjoyed it.

Originally Posted by CuruornEU

Nice video! A bit too long but some clips are nice to watch!

Ignoring the fact that freeps are horribly OP, you play your champ very well, swapping weapons in mid-combat, etc. Could you tell me how you keybind/play? Started playing freep lately and the increased ammount of buttons made my old setup useless, so I'd love to get some tips.

I'm sure he can provide a better explanation but from what I can glean here he swaps his 1H weapons with shift keys + A/D and he has his 2Her bound to a mouse button.

Champs have a tonne of skills both rotational and situational which are nice to have on keybinds and expanding to every key within 100 miles of WASD + shift/cntrl/alt (also on 1-6/7) variables is quite useful. If you have the resolution on max and full screen the video you can see all his binds. You can also use a gamer mouse to bind most of your skills to.

Originally Posted by Champtain

Kid and I usually won't be able to beat a creep group of 5-6 if it's too BA heavy. Really, that's usually what dictates the outcome most of the time; granted, MT at least must be used. The other important factor is the amount of people that can keep up with the Captain's kiting. As you may imagine most key turners aren't much of a threat if the Captain knows how to sharp turn. And of course, you do not go for the Champ.

You definitely have mastered the "Kite 10 steps in a straight line while casting every possible defensive/healing buff, SHARP 180 TURN, rinse repeat "

It is truly an amazing display of skill my friend

Originally Posted by MaroonDragoon

If I gave a lecture to creeps on out of group coordination, this would be my main point in regards to small group fights.


They'd prolly still be dumb and fail, tho.

Good sir,

No need for your professional lecture , its already programmed in our DNA from evolution

Any monkey can win with ISB + 3 shield bubbles

I fail to see where a warg takes more skill to play.

Originally Posted by gimli4480

I fail to see where a warg takes more skill to play.

Not so much skill as willingness to suffer.

Will be interesting to see how update 6 plays out for wargs individually, and both sides as a whole. I'm not so optimistic, but only because I have learned to set my expectations pretty low with Turbine updates.

Cheers all

oh.........and interesting vid. lots of pretty bubbles

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

You definitely have mastered the "Kite 10 steps in a straight line while casting every possible defensive/healing buff, SHARP 180 TURN, rinse repeat "

It is truly an amazing display of skill my friend

Why, thank you dear friend. Shall be releasing an instructional video soon enough.

And I'd personally like to thank you, Worgsnack, Defeat Response feeder, key turning warrior, for all the unintended help. You are always there to save the day.