Thread: Ultimate Evernight Thread: Evernight strikes back part 4

I've played burg and warg (anyone's free to guess at server and name of my burg) and comparing a warg pack to a 6+ burg pack isn't really a good comparison. A good burg can kill a warg in the middle of a pack and get out, I'd like to see a warg do that with a burg pack.
1 burg =/= 1 warg. Especially not when considering the warg stalker packs which often include wargs below r4

Your packs are organised? Your pack lost out to 4 burgs yesterday even though you outnumbered us 2:1.

Perhaps a terrible warg in an awful pack. You have 10s of Knives out, then you are dead in 2 seconds, t&g does nothing against wargs in shadow stance. A good, ranked warg is pretty competitive with a burg now.

Blame this nothing more nothing less --->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frustration#Symptoms

If the ettons was like pleasantville it just wouldn't work its all about control ,don't hate retaliate

love pouch....

Just want to say thanks for all the spars and I hope people had fun tonight, I know I did even if I had to die a few times

Originally Posted by Tarenius

I'm not going to go through every point, but:

- If those are organised packs, I can't wait to fight the unorganised ones.
- Why do you need to be in big groups to chat? You don't have TS/Tribe chat?
- Playing with Dusky would not change my opinion that she is a terrible player. I have said nothing about how she is as a person.
- Freeps group up, yes (as do other creeps) - it's not remotely the same. Can you imagine the uproar if there were regularly groups of 6+ burgs camping the GY? I'm not really complaining about warg packs though, I don't mind them particularly, I just find it funny when people suggest it takes skill & coordination to gank with a group of stealth classes.

-PVP/PVMP means be ready to kill or be killed by ANY way
-Pointing directly to other players is a sign of envy or bad taste, note the 3 got higher rank than you on a single toon.
-Less talk or complain about players or their play-style and go fight (words are words)
-Must remember that Rodin rank is Second Marshall (with his own style) "skilled" or not that's the reality.
-Perseverance is best valued in all of the 3 ones than joining at moors with numbers on favour and start farming infamy/renowm
-To end nothing wrong against you, but you must act as a true kinship leader, judge your kinnies and show respect to the other players.
Enjoy

Originally Posted by Hayley

-PVP/PVMP means be ready to kill or be killed by ANY way
-Pointing directly to other players is a sign of envy or bad taste, note the 3 got higher rank than you on a single toon.
-Less talk or complain about players or their play-style and go fight (words are words)
-Must remember that Rodin rank is Second Marshall (with his own style) "skilled" or not that's the reality.
-Perseverance is best valued in all of the 3 ones than joining at moors with numbers on favour and start farming infamy/renowm
-To end nothing wrong against you, but you must act as a true kinship leader, judge your kinnies and show respect to the other players.
Enjoy

You got me. Seeing that Dusky has a higher rank than any of my characters makes me green with envy.

All we are here for fun

Originally Posted by Gattsu_EU

Just want to say thanks for all the spars and I hope people had fun tonight, I know I did even if I had to die a few times

Aye, cheers for the spars

Good fun lastnight dusky dusky dusky what can i say ,keep up the hobbit hunt loved it

New name for the warg stalkers (The Velociraptors) i.e the 1 wounded warg tactic while rest get in place great stuff ,what don't kill you makes you stronger

i can't kill a defiler in spar !!! Q.Q

Originally Posted by minnimeepouch

Good fun lastnight dusky dusky dusky what can i say ,keep up the hobbit hunt loved it

New name for the warg stalkers (The Velociraptors) i.e the 1 wounded warg tactic while rest get in place great stuff ,what don't kill you makes you stronger

Yay, I think I can actually play the role of wounded warg been having terrible trouble with lag lately that makes me lag out if there's more than 2 freeps around it's really hard to fight when you lag out every few seconds. However, I think a lagged out warg would be great bait for the wounded warg tactic.

Btw is anyone else having a lot of trouble with lag lately? I used to have no lag at all but now I can barely play anymore due to the lag.

Originally Posted by Dawnsinger

Btw is anyone else having a lot of trouble with lag lately? I used to have no lag at all but now I can barely play anymore due to the lag.

I have hideous lag the first time I logg in and run into a group of creeps/freeps fighting. I get killed and when I retreat I start seing the damage I take. It's stupid. Also, today I've had two or three major lag spikes, one of 'em got me killed .

Hope they fix this; if it's fixable that is.

Originally Posted by najtmer0

I have hideous lag the first time I logg in and run into a group of creeps/freeps fighting. I get killed and when I retreat I start seing the damage I take. It's stupid. Also, today I've had two or three major lag spikes, one of 'em got me killed .

Hope they fix this; if it's fixable that is.

And this is a small server , can you imagine on big ones ?

Originally Posted by Louvre

And this is a small server , can you imagine on big ones ?

Others don't concern me tbh.

Originally Posted by Dawnsinger

Yay, I think I can actually play the role of wounded warg been having terrible trouble with lag lately that makes me lag out if there's more than 2 freeps around it's really hard to fight when you lag out every few seconds. However, I think a lagged out warg would be great bait for the wounded warg tactic.

Btw is anyone else having a lot of trouble with lag lately? I used to have no lag at all but now I can barely play anymore due to the lag.

You are not the only one having trouble with lag. I've been having some horrible lag aswell lately.

Well the last few days all I have seen yet again are new Minstrels popping up and camping the GY. I'm sure the Creeps will agree its pathetic. I will specify once more. GY is Bury Territory.

Not to mention terrible lag.

Well, had a nice evening and some nice fights tonight inspite of hideous lag that's becoming evermore present. Was a bit odd tonight though, perhaps of maintenance taking place.

Looking forward to more of that! (Only tracking could ease off a bit :P)

Originally Posted by najtmer0

Looking forward to more of that! (Only tracking could ease off a bit :P)

Lag is real problem got to reduce this tbh ,as for the tracking x12 track son me lastnight without a single break awsome fun though

Good job to the late night full Freep raidzerg! Honestly makes me wonder why I disband groups, nevermind raids, when they're not needed. Perhaps I'll have to rethink that in future.

Originally Posted by ThingoMD

Good job to the late night full Freep raidzerg! Honestly makes me wonder why I disband groups, nevermind raids, when they're not needed. Perhaps I'll have to rethink that in future.

The best thing about that very pointless zerg was they all logged off as soon as they capped all keeps, silly... Anyway, some soloers stayed online and got couple of kills..Meh, silly freeps. Thingo, you get to work maggot!

Originally Posted by minnimeepouch

Lag is real problem got to reduce this tbh ,as for the tracking x12 track son me lastnight without a single break awsome fun though.

Hehe, always a pleasure chasing you around the map Looking forward to more of that!

funny, yesterday i logged at about 20h and creeps were storming tol zerging everything and everyone(we even had the outnumbered buff wich is rare), went pve a bit... came back and got zerged by a group at tr... then zerged over and over again by a pro warg pack going around taking soloers... now there is a creep group storming and zerging people at ec.
Im sorry thingo but after being killed so many times by groups I kinda fail to see your point.

Originally Posted by xymith

funny, yesterday i logged at about 20h and creeps were storming tol zerging everything and everyone(we even had the outnumbered buff wich is rare), went pve a bit... came back and got zerged by a group at tr... then zerged over and over again by a pro warg pack going around taking soloers... now there is a creep group storming and zerging people at ec.

Can you say that all again...but slower...and in a sexy voice...it made me tingly.

Originally Posted by xymith

funny, yesterday i logged at about 20h and creeps were storming tol zerging everything and everyone(we even had the outnumbered buff wich is rare), went pve a bit... came back and got zerged by a group at tr... then zerged over and over again by a pro warg pack going around taking soloers... now there is a creep group storming and zerging people at ec.
Im sorry thingo but after being killed so many times by groups I kinda fail to see your point.

Oh I do understand your frustration. However, my point would be this. Each side goes through it's rough patch in the day when they are outnumbered and hounded relentlessly. To run a full raid against a handful of soloers seems a little like overkill though no? It's no fun for anyone to be farmed constantly, but just look at how eager your Freep comrades are to camp Lug GY and OC before complaining about EC. GY camping is now endemic!

Of course if you are encountering stiff resistence then by all means start a group and fight back. I'm only saying that my first instinct is never "I must group now/I must raid now". I am solo as I dip my figurative toe into the metaphorical pool of battle. If Freeps are having a hard time of it I stay that way. If there is a need for a group to fight back then I'll seek monsters to fight alongside. As soon as I feel aforementioned group is no longer needed I disband. Just seems to me that when bodies fall on both sides then everyone is having some fun.

Originally Posted by xymith

funny, yesterday i logged at about 20h and creeps were storming tol zerging everything and everyone(we even had the outnumbered buff wich is rare), went pve a bit... came back and got zerged by a group at tr... then zerged over and over again by a pro warg pack going around taking soloers... now there is a creep group storming and zerging people at ec.
Im sorry thingo but after being killed so many times by groups I kinda fail to see your point.

Funny mention just the I am being farmed part, you didn't blame when joined Mong zerg and I'm sure you enjoyed killing solo creeps at Grams.

Have fun QQ ^^

What zerg, I was 12man, 14man at most, I was asked to lead freeps so I relogged, I didn't fight solos, if u are with others around you, you might be ungrouped but NOT solo, if you don't want to group up, your fault not mine, it's a MMO, a dam multiplayer, go play a single player if you wanna solo. And for the record, I fought grouped players, I even went to lug to give 'em a chance. Also when I disbanded freeps got outnumber buff not long after, it's the same on both sides, QQ'ers on both sides, mainly bane, gobbow and you isabel tend to say '' LOL ong switched'' when in reality it's gonlas, it makes me chuckle everytime l2read I'd say. (If you're gonna say the names look alike it just proves my point you should l2read either that or you jump to conclusions to quickly, which happens way to much on this server).

Oh true Mong, forgot to bow to you as an example of fair player lmao. I was playing with my BA, and alone at Omaha and Ilaccaih is your actual freep (not ilaicah whos gonlas a sign he got a little amount of personality) and maybe your grp were 12, but 30 freeps killed me, being you on the head. So don't try to hide telling you don't zerg (note i'm not QQ, i just answered Ximith post QQ about being zerged) you kill as all the others ball up and go straight. I understand and better than you what's pvp, because i learned to win and lose, but will stop a pointless thread against the star of the show. Have fun

Originally Posted by Hayley

I understand and better than you what's pvp, because i learned to win and lose,

100 % true, could'nt agree more.

As proof of this just look how Broom took her defeat against Talgash like a real (wo)man.
Look at how she fullfilled the agreement by deleting all of her chars.

That's how you handle a defeat!

Oh wait....

zS

Losing is a part pvp but why would you want to learn to lose? It's all about winning d00d... I don't see people getting applauded for losing championships. And yes maybe freeps were leeching me, yet at tr fields there were more wargs leeching the creep raid than there was freeps leeching me, so please, isabel, l2p your classes before you learn about the pvp.

Originally Posted by ThingoMD

Good job to the late night full Freep raidzerg! Honestly makes me wonder why I disband groups, nevermind raids, when they're not needed. Perhaps I'll have to rethink that in future.

Good job Thingo.
Your group is currently zerging solo freeps.

Originally Posted by laphorrr

Good job Thingo.
Your group is currently zerging solo freeps.

Wrong, creeps never zerg!

some time can happen ...
I go alone and 6 or more creep owening me some time need only one or 2 ... some time 2 or 3 warg attack another one and i can kill all 3 ... well ... this is etten !

You wanan survive ? you need to buid a group !
It's a war zone no rule no evil no good ... it's only a game and it's for fun.

Some problem are about class too much OP for me but at last the point is play with people for fun ...

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

so please, isabel, l2p your classes before you learn about the pvp.

I think you have troubles to understand wha I said to a post who was not a reply to yours at the first point...
I will repeat: I want to see the people who QQ here when they got zerged performing the same QQ show when they zerg.

And Ladrir whatever happens between Tobias(Talgash, Glo, Juustin) and me is not of your competence, look at your own business, first one start to respect people which you don't know.

I turned off the counter of freeps soloed with my warg when reached 2000, deserve your lessons for the noobs Mong (you can ask directly to any member of the spanish community or any friend).

L2P? [OOC] Ongbyrz: I am a god

You are a funny fool my friend, start taking lessons for yourself, I play to have fun not to be popular, and that's a game so I've no problem to say you are making me laugh a lot (hope you take that as a Game Player )

Isabel I'm way surpass the point where I care about ''zerging'' either side zergs, EVERYBODY zergs it's open pvp... You failed to see my point I was merely pointing out people should NOT complain about GROUPING (ZERGING INVOLVED) because it's a freaking MMO (you SHOULD group up), the side that does NOT group at X time is to blame, not the side that is ''zerging''.

Referring to your I'm a god statement, I probably am, yes I'm overconfident, but I 100% know for sure, there is barely any player that is more skilled at reaver, yet because you hate me (most creeps do so you're not alone) doesn't mean I'm noob.

Referring to your ''spanish'' community statement, there is a few good spaniards around but the majority just bums eachothers, just look at the popularity contest ''La Lista Negra'' I haven't even seen all people named there in moors. Naming someone else doesn't make yourself good isabel, this game is way too casual and the standards are well quite low, go play StarCraft2, even WoW is way more competative, you cannot deny this, altho the community is different doesn't make it less true. Sure you are better than quite a few freep noobs(this does not make yourself less noob), but most freeps come lotro to PvE and have no PvP skill whatsoever, most of them even get carried by the fact freeps are OP to fck.

Originally Posted by laphorrr

Good job Thingo.
Your group is currently zerging solo freeps.

Need I explain myself again? Did you see what I wrote in reply to Xymith?

The only time I'm grouped is when the situation demands it. I like to think that seeing creeps penned into OC demands it. Is it my fault that those who enjoy the nukefest turn tail and flee? This happened on a few occasions tonight. Yes it's unfortunate for those who are left standing and trying to fight on the other side. Take note of Ong's posts above too.

Again, we group up when creeps are being stomped. We could easily group up at many other times and I'm sure there would be much more to complain about.

What you fail to seem to comprehend is that even a bunch of solo freeps have more than enough firepower and heals to "zerg" with impunity against disorganised monsters, whatever that word means in the readers eye. I'm sure you'd much prefer us just to stand there and take it. At any time when I was grouped tonight there were more than enough freeps to make a stand to begin with. Don't blame us if people aren't up for a decent fight. Or is it merely coincidence that there is usually a return to OC/GY camping five minutes after some of us disband?

On more than one occasion tonight Freeps who could have made a stand didn't. We even fought inside Tol until we dropped in the hope of showing the merit of actually having a fight instead of turning tail and running. We did the same yesterday against twice our number close to TR, fighting until we all dropped. It would be nice to see some action on the field rather than inane comments on a forum.

Also, please note my original point was about a full raid, feel free to bring out your sarcastic smiley faces next time you see me running 24 Creeps around the map colouring it red.

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Isabel I'm way surpass the point where I care about ''zerging'' either side zergs

That's I said, ppl QQ when both sides zergs but just when they lose

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

EVERYODY zergs it's open pvp...

True that shows 90% players ability, lame

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

You failed to see my point I was merely pointing out people should NOT complain about GROUPING (ZERGING INVOLVED) because it's a freaking MMO (you SHOULD group up), the side that does NOT group at X time is to blame, not the side that is ''zerging''.

I'm not blaming just telling people blaming is weird when odds are against them.

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

you SHOULD group up

Some players got our own playstyle and I like playing my own way.

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Referring to your I'm a god statement, I probably am, yes I'm overconfident, but I 100% know for sure

Big true, Meernakh, Brechas, Fleshmad, Emodonk, Blackandecker, all those ones are more skilled at reaver

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

yet because you hate me (most creeps do so you're not alone) doesn't mean I'm noob.

Mistaken here, I don't hate anyone, just make my observations, if you think I hate you... Open your mind... That's a game

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Referring to your ''spanish'' community statement, there is a few good spaniards around but the majority just bums eachothers, just look at the popularity contest ''La Lista Negra'' I haven't even seen all people named there in moors.

Popularity contests are for Rockstars, I'm fine being one more player

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Naming someone else doesn't make yourself good isabel, this game is way too casual and the standards are well quite low, go play StarCraft2, even WoW is way more competative, you cannot deny this, altho the community is different doesn't make it less true. Sure you are better than quite a few freep noobs(this does not make yourself less noob), but most freeps come lotro to PvE and have no PvP skill whatsoever, most of them even get carried by the fact freeps are OP to fck.

Big thanks for that advices, but as I said I'm fine playing LotRO.

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Sure you are better than quite a few freep noobs(this does not make yourself less noob)

If I soloed 2k freeps on warg being a noob, pray to I never became skilled rofl.

And my End: Mong leader of gankography or whatever is called that tribe... perhaps you must know who leads SLS... a tribe with true history, legends of pvp grew here, yes my friend I'm leading (with the permission of Axturiax who's the Leader, the other crown is mine) that "dead" tribe, not as dead as many think.
Conclussion, try to know what kind of person are you talking to, If you like Forum shows don't wait for an answer, and before calling noob any player, look at yourself first, unable to perform solo fights, weak if not under the protection of a Captain or your Circus Workers...

Finally I repeat and that's the 4th time, wth are you pissing on me when I replied to Xymith??
Freedom to exprese ourselves gives me the Right to tell him the only thing I said: If a player QQ when is killed, please do the same QQ when kills the way is killed...

That's a MMO?? Heh thanks I thought I were playing Hello Kitty or Singstar, will point that.

And spelling in my own language I gave you a personal bb:

Vete a kaskarla por ahi, flipadete, echate novia, trabaja, y respeta si queres ser respetado.

De todas formas es algo que ni me va ni me viene.

See you around

Originally Posted by Hayley

Finally I repeat and that's the 4th time, wth are you pissing on me when I replied to Xymith??
Freedom to exprese ourselves gives me the Right to tell him the only thing I said: If a player QQ when is killed, please do the same QQ when kills the way is killed...

So you're allowed to reply and get into others' business but Ong isn't and apperantly neither am I?


Please just stop whining about us whining about you whining about Xymith whining about creeps teaming up, it's just too much whining!

Also you're not that good, Ong is that good. But if you don't take my word for it you can always do another one of your famous "Loser deletes challenges" against him and see how bad he really is. GOT BALLS?????

zS

Please just stop whining about us whining about you whining about Xymith whining about Thingo whining about freeps grouping up. Fixed.

you dont see me saying that freeps dont zerg, you see me saying that on that same day zergs where up both sides. whats the point of complaining if freeps made a pve raid in moors at late night just to flip keeps? and this is about the 24 man raid, it was a pve raid, I didnt even hear the leader saying for us to go for creeps, and many that were on that raid could also say the same. Tbh if you want to complain about this complain about pve giving renown and commendations making pve raids constant now.

As for ongs 12 man i was on, it got disbanded as soon as the creep raid that was fighting it disbanded too, and he did try to make the groups size equal or simillar to the creep raid on the other side. (as for one thing he did try to find good fights).

Originally Posted by Hayley

And spelling in my own language I gave you a personal bb:

Vete a kaskarla por ahi, flipadete, echate novia, trabaja, y respeta si queres ser respetado.

De todas formas es algo que ni me va ni me viene.

Since you are talking about giving and recieving respect, this is one of the ways you are showing your disrespect, not only towards him, but towards the whole community reading this who can't understand spanish.

Translating what you said:

Go mess around, you are full of yourself, get a girlfriend, get a job and show respect if you wanna be respected.

Anyways, not that I care.

You gotta recognise I'm being a good person translating it like that, because it can be taken in a more offensive way.

Apart from that you refer to him as ganker, unskilled, noob, zerger, Mong, etc. Are you serious when you talk about respect? Seen you insulting almost every freep in creep regional when you constantly spam it when talking with some of your tribe friends.

Had to say something since my hypocritical alert almost exploded.

Originally Posted by xymith

Please just stop whining about us whining about you whining about Xymith whining about Thingo whining about freeps grouping up. Fixed.

you dont see me saying that freeps dont zerg, you see me saying that on that same day zergs where up both sides. whats the point of complaining if freeps made a pve raid in moors at late night just to flip keeps? and this is about the 24 man raid, it was a pve raid, I didnt even hear the leader saying for us to go for creeps, and many that were on that raid could also say the same. Tbh if you want to complain about this complain about pve giving renown and commendations making pve raids constant now.

As for ongs 12 man i was on, it got disbanded as soon as the creep raid that was fighting it disbanded too, and he did try to make the groups size equal or simillar to the creep raid on the other side. (as for one thing he did try to find good fights).

Let’s get one thing straight here. Thingo is not whining about Freeps grouping up. Thingo is indeed complaining about a needless full raid killing what is left of late night action.

You’re damn right when you say PvE giving infamy/renown and comms is a problem. However, there is no mysterious force compelling people to take part in senseless PvE raids. Perhaps someone can tell me why the Freeps favour this sort of action. You never see anyone deliberately organising a Creep raid for this purpose, except of course during the heyday of Keep Flipping post update 6 when the PvE brigade would switch to Creep to flip the map they had just flipped. Quite honestly I find it exploitative behaviour, and you can of course hide behind the excuse of a flawed system but it’s the players who are choosing to take advantage of it.

You didn’t hear the leader saying to go for Creeps? Sure as anything you didn’t hear the leader saying not to go for Creeps either. Creeps fell trying to defend Lumber Camp. Creeps fell at Tol as the PvE brigade stormed through there too.

Again, you will never hear me complaining about something that happens to me in The ‘Moors, only situations! That PvE raid killed me once only at Tol. I helped take a few lives at Lumber Camp and a few more at Tol. For someone who considers one kill for one death an excellent return I was more than happy with that. Waving goodbye to what was left of the action for the night is my problem.

Finally, a quick word on the Ong storm. His raid was indeed there to fight a Creep raid. He had been part of the Creep raid but went to lead the Freeps when they lost their leader. Unfortunately the Creep raid was reduced in numbers to around eleven with no class balance and was then unable to put up anything approaching a fight. The Freep raid did indeed disband shortly after this was evident. Say what you will about Ong, but I like seeing him out on either side of the field. At least you know he’s there for a fight, ain’t that what the ‘Moors is supposed to be about?

Beats the hell out of playing hide and seek with keep huggers who map out as soon as their camping nukefest session is interrupted by a group. Special stick shaker salute as always to those brave ones who stand and fight, you of course know who you are.