Thread: Ultimate Evernight Thread: Evernight strikes back part 4

Weekends are not kind to creep-side.

Freep raid leaders consider pvp? Stop painting the map blue,leave a gy for creeps. Especially tonight when we outnumbered and can't put up resistance.
Without creeps there aint a pvp game

My respects to grisshlug the warg. Great solo kill you made on me on tol lawn yesterday. I applaud your skill! You prove that skill is most important in a fight, and you don't need numbers 4+ vs 1 to own someone! Bravo keep up the good work, going solo like that, making fights exciting and thrilling.

This should be an example for all creep and freep no skill zergers!

Hope to see you on the field again!

p.s. of course i could have hipsed and denying the renown, but I respect persons who fight well and owning me in 1 vs 1(2)

Hats off to whomever was leading the freep raid tonight, the fight at Good Tol seemed to go on for ages with both sides making infamy/renown.
Hope we gave all of those Captains plenty to do.

Action was nice last night.

Originally Posted by Glorthindal

Soho is definitely my favourite Hunter who plays the moors, a regular face on the moors whom I usually see patrolling for wargs around TR fields and whom seems to possess heat-seaking intercontinental arrows, and is always a challenge to get a KB on.

Well said X
Soho is one of my favorite hunters.I never saw him use store brands and sh****t either

Originally Posted by Louvre

Respect for Fonia .

Most skilled hunter I've seen since I play .

Living proof that you don't need to zerg / hug / lame to kill as a hunter .

Refeshing to have a hunter not zergin or huggin. Well played Fonia so far (don't be tempted by the easy mode )

P.S Dualling with burg IS easy mode so don't do it again

Yea the ettons is near enough pre u6 action once again ,had some good fun last few days.

Remember don't hate the player hate the lag :P

Originally Posted by minnimeepouch

Yea the ettons is near enough pre u6 action once again ,had some good fun last few days.

Remember don't hate the player hate the lag :P

Yeah not too bad , even I had a bash at leading a mini raid(2 fellows worth) which is a rare sight since Aug last year but thats not down to recent updates but RL stuff , some nice fights most of the time, Sat' night creep raid was pretty good considering there was quite a few low ranks present and some complete newbies but they conducted themselves admirably and shows that you don't always need a ROFstomping uber raid or group to get a good rewarding (for both sides) fight

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If the action was like this before U6 i feel really sad for every creep that pvp. Allways a bunch of grouped freep noobs with cappy pets that kill solo creeps, BRAVE, or even the freep raids gank GY that is skillz to the limit. Never seen so ####ty pvp during the time i played this game...

Question:
Why do you call captains "pets" when they do what they are supposed to do and group with someone?
Why do I never hear anything about warleader "pets" when they do exactly the same?

Originally Posted by Xivi

If the action was like this before U6 i feel really sad for every creep that pvp. Allways a bunch of grouped freep noobs with cappy pets that kill solo creeps, BRAVE, or even the freep raids gank GY that is skillz to the limit. Never seen so ####ty pvp during the time i played this game...

Funny guy. Bye.

Originally Posted by Herio

Question:
Why do you call captains "pets" when they do what they are supposed to do and group with someone?
Why do I never hear anything about warleader "pets" when they do exactly the same?

Group up with 5 ppl and gank solo'ers is what they are supposed to do? Sounds like the pvp is really funny nowdays. But i guess ganking is fun aswell as its only way to get inf almost .

Originally Posted by Herio

Question:
Why do you call captains "pets" when they do what they are supposed to do and group with someone?
Why do I never hear anything about warleader "pets" when they do exactly the same?

I can easily mention plenty of warleaders who solo around Evernight .

I can hardly think of captains willing to do it : Cixa ( no longer around ) , maybe Lepakko's captain ?

And the "captainhavenodps" excuse is no longer valid , since they can survive like crazy and crit for over 2k if they build for it .

That's why .

BTW

Originally Posted by Herio

they do what they are supposed to do and group with someone?

Following that logic , shouldn't minstrels drop war-speech and heal ?

I wonder how many ranked Minstrels we would have if they gained infamy at the same rate as defilers .

Originally Posted by Louvre

I can easily mention plenty of warleaders who solo around Evernight .

I can hardly think of captains willing to do it : Cixa ( no longer around ) , maybe Lepakko's captain ?

And the "captainhavenodps" excuse is no longer valid , since they can survive like crazy and crit for over 2k if they build for it .

That's why .

You will have to agree with me here, when I say most of the WLs play grouped. I get your point about soloing and all that, but then again why is a captain a "pet" and a lore-master is not? Your point here would be that if the lore-master goes solo he will no longer be a "pet", right? Not sure if I understood you.

Any support class who actually plays his role, groups up and supports his group is a "pet" then?

Originally Posted by Herio

You will have to agree with me here, when I say most of the WLs play grouped.

Agree , yet I can also say that in my experience there is a higher number of WLs soloing than captains . Most if not all BG WLs are constantly solo . That doesnt mean we won't group up to defend ourselves .

Yet , it's not the same grouping to put up a defense against freeps / creeps , to group up to zerg / faceroll the others . I am aware that not everyone does that , but you have to admit there are captains out there who will never come without their DPS partner or those who will try to start a group the moment they step in .

That is imo the "pet" behaviour .

Originally Posted by Herio

I get your point about soloing and all that, but then again why is a captain a "pet" and a lore-master is not?

Probably because the kills are usually not linked to the captain in an obvious way . When you fight a captain grouped with another class , you only care about the captain because he's keeping your target alive .

It would be a totally different story if the captain actually bothered fighting you .

Originally Posted by Herio

Your point here would be that if the lore-master goes solo he will no longer be a "pet", right? Not sure if I understood you.

Just to clarify , it's not like I nicknamed the captains "pets" myself . This is just how I understand it . Imo for a LM or any other class to be a pet , it would require the LM to actually have a "pet-ish" playstyle . Who says captains cannot have another successful playstyle in pvmp ?

Originally Posted by Herio

Any support class who actually plays his role, groups up and supports his group is a "pet" then?

Look at previous answer .

Originally Posted by Louvre

Agree , yet I can also say that in my experience there is a higher number of WLs soloing than captains . Most if not all BG WLs are constantly solo . That doesnt mean we won't group up to defend ourselves .

Yet , it's not the same grouping to put up a defense against freeps / creeps , to group up to zerg / faceroll the others . I am aware that not everyone does that , but you have to admit there are captains out there who will never come without their DPS partner or those who will try to start a group the moment they step in .

That is imo the "pet" behaviour .

Probably because the kills are usually not linked to the captain in an obvious way . When you fight a captain grouped with another class , you only care about the captain because he's keeping your target alive .

It would be a totally different story if the captain actually bothered fighting you .

Just to clarify , it's not like I nicknamed the captains "pets" myself . This is just how I understand it . Imo for a LM or any other class to be a pet , it would require the LM to actually have a "pet-ish" playstyle . Who says captains cannot have another successful playstyle in pvmp ?

Fair enough! now I see it from creep perspective. Yet I don't like the "pet" nickname and I wouldn't use it to generalise since there are some players who might get offended. Mostly because I still think captains who group up, even like you said if they are grouped 100% of the time they pvp, they are doing the job they are supposed to. You can like it or not, but never disrespect for that imo.

Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not saying you are disrespecting anyone. But like I have said before there have been some people using the "pet" term offensively.

Originally Posted by Xivi

If the action was like this before U6 i feel really sad for every creep that pvp. Allways a bunch of grouped freep noobs with cappy pets that kill solo creeps, BRAVE, or even the freep raids gank GY that is skillz to the limit. Never seen so ####ty pvp during the time i played this game...

My point been any action is better then post u6......not saying action is at best but jeez just after u6 it was tact-less ,quick note of this cappy pet banter good luck to any that have the option to duo what ever the set up ,lost count how many times i encounted defs with wl or defs with wargs as a solo player all i can do is learn from it and take a different approach next time brains over brawn everytime.

Quick example is yesterday weaver with 4 wargs at gv to ec camping cant knock these guys for that big ups tbh , yea i got my ### pounded my silly mistake for going through the beaten track to ec ,learn or burn guys so to players with defs/cappys/wl as sidekicks lucky you that,s all i can say.

Cappys/wl/defs just doing what they do best don't flame them for it , i.e wl bubble stopping the kb gratz to wl for team play that's quality of its own right there.

Im not talking about duo, duo is fine but a full fellow is lame when its only solo'ers.

Originally Posted by Xivi

Im not talking about duo, duo is fine but a full fellow is lame when its only solo'ers.

Says Ratzy, Leader of "Ganking is Fun". =D

I for one am sick of cappies propping up already overpowered classes like RKs and minstrels. Makes them very hard to kill as well as hitting like trucks. Grow some balls cappies and go solo. If not then roll an easymode class and go solo. Or if you want to be a decent player that actually earns their rank, go creep side and fight the current freep dregs.
Nothing but contempt for the OP tactical freeps that duo/group all the time.

Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath

I for one am sick of cappies propping up already overpowered classes like RKs and minstrels.

And what about the ridiculous increase in wargs?

Only if good defi/wl did same to creep group as good cappy does to freep group, you could compare them. Cappy+lm+dps let's you faceroll anything, unless you get much outnumbered. Single defiler can barely outheal top geared minstrel dpsing (the defi). Well blame the devs for ruining the balance.

Originally Posted by Merebrand

And what about the ridiculous increase in wargs?

Nothing compared to the ridiculous increase in minstrels .

It's not like wargs were popping out of the ground with a high rank .

Since wargs are the only class with near decent DPS,
Reavers DPS is just fail atm and Black Arrows 1 skill that did any decent damage got nerfed after freeps moaning about it.
Thats probably why the increse in wargs

Originally Posted by Merebrand

And what about the ridiculous increase in wargs?

And what about the ridiculous increase in burgs?

Originally Posted by Calengir

And what about the ridiculous increase in burgs?

Nowhere near the ridiculous increase in wargs. And I've always played burg as main in both pve and pvp. And actually; what ridiculous increase in burgs?

I don't doubt that wargs needed a buff and are perhaps the only near-balanced class on creepside, and I admire the solo/duo wargs, but the ones who only run in packs of 6/7/8 just make the rest look bad.

Originally Posted by Calengir

And what about the ridiculous increase in burgs?

??? Isteru, fingerz, dinsdale, cheeze, robolin, eca, etc are hardly or not online. There are indeed some new burgs but not as many as there used to be. But i don't mind there are so many wargs! I agree with merebrand. I respect wargs, every creep, that solos or duos. some wargs are able to solo burgs or let them use all cd's. I also respect lowbies to group up in 5 plus. I do think its lame that wargs that group up with 5-8 that only attack solo'ers and flee when there is 2 or 3 ppl show up. I wonder what would happen if burg groups of 5+ would appear and only kill soloers.
Ganking or zerging is never fun for both sides. And this mentality makes that people don't respect the other side anymore. At least i don't respect some wargs, including tha zergqueen. I glady interfere and use every mean to take those persons down.

Ive seen a fair handful of new creeps on lately and its nice to see some new faces, lets hope some of them become regulars . As for burglars I dont think there has been as many on as Ive known before. Its a shame Dinsdales not been on much, I used to like seeing him around! At least not all of the burglars have gone. Would be nice to see some more action like saturday night was it? when there was a proper raid v raid battle that seemed to last a while, thanks to Xodus for leading us all and thanks to the freeps for leading and putting up a good fight . I tell you your efforts dont go unnoticed!

Originally Posted by Merebrand

Nowhere near the ridiculous increase in wargs. And I've always played burg as main in both pve and pvp. And actually; what ridiculous increase in burgs?

Well I don't remember specific ones, but I have noticed a fair few new burgs

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against burgs. In my opinion you, Proqs & Pouch are probably the best current burgs here

All this burg/warg talk made me forget why I came here in the first place, just want to say thanks to all the freeps & creeps that fought around the map last night, made a nice difference to the usual.

don't think u will see dinsdale as i thought he transferred to eldar last feb.

Oh right, shame we wont be seeing him around! Lets just hope hes enjoying himself on Eldar

Just a question to all the freeps out there-
Are you trying to ruin pvp in the moors by constantly being in group's or Is because you have all forgot how to solo?

I agree, cappies always zerg, just like mine idd. I leech and wait for infamy and not do it the hardway. I need to l2p. Please help as I have no clue what to do when soloing. I really need urgent help to find all the skills which I need to use when solo.
Maybe you creeps know what I need to do when soloing so reply asap as i can't wait and become fed up of not knowing how to solo!


zSS

Originally Posted by Maz-Thewhitehand

I agree, cappies always zerg, just like mine idd. I leech and wait for infamy and not do it the hardway. I need to l2p. Please help as I have no clue what to do when soloing. I really need urgent help to find all the skills which I need to use when solo.
Maybe you creeps know what I need to do when soloing so reply asap as i can't wait and become fed up of not knowing how to solo!


zSS

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Maz-Thewhitehand

I agree, cappies always zerg, just like mine idd. I leech and wait for infamy and not do it the hardway. I need to l2p. Please help as I have no clue what to do when soloing. I really need urgent help to find all the skills which I need to use when solo.
Maybe you creeps know what I need to do when soloing so reply asap as i can't wait and become fed up of not knowing how to solo!


zSS

What happened to your wl?

Originally Posted by Maz-Thewhitehand

I agree, cappies always zerg, just like mine idd. I leech and wait for infamy and not do it the hardway. I need to l2p. Please help as I have no clue what to do when soloing. I really need urgent help to find all the skills which I need to use when solo.
Maybe you creeps know what I need to do when soloing so reply asap as i can't wait and become fed up of not knowing how to solo!


zSS

I don't get the joke .

Originally Posted by Louvre

I don't get the joke .

Maz only solo's on captain.

Originally Posted by Merebrand

Maz only solo's on captain.

Now I get it !

Ha ha very funny .

Originally Posted by bynbard

Just a question to all the creeps out there-
Are you trying to ruin pvp in the moors by constantly being in group's or Is because you have all forgot how to solo?

Fixed that for you.