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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Haunt123 View Post
    RK's have skills which are based on them arguing and intimidating their foes
    RKs have assorted skills which are elemental magic by their own descriptions. The lightning must 'really' be lightning because Fall to Storm relies on it being exactly that.

    So, in mounted combat, they'll pretty much do the same, along with shouting "I'm on a horse!"
    They wouldn't be for long

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    If Hunter's can't use any of our bow skill set on horseback, there is no point to mounted combat. What hunter wouldn't just love charging into a group of mobs warming up a heart-seeker then switching into dual wield and backflippin' off your steed. Just a wonderful sight it would be!

    Could be an emote lmao

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    I think for hunters the bow skills could be decreased in range while on a horse just pew,pew while galloping around a huge orc while he is trying to follow you slowly and clumsily turning round and round again.

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU View Post
    RKs have assorted skills which are elemental magic by their own descriptions. The lightning must 'really' be lightning because Fall to Storm relies on it being exactly that.
    Guess we'll be seeing "Fall to Horse"

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Brethwyn_EU View Post
    We don't wait because it's important to give feedback and voice our opinions over how it should be done.
    Giving feedback on something you got no clue what it is? Hmmm...
    Voicing opinion on how it should be?

    You must be some developer in disguise...

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Basically, any class that can wield two-hand weapons, spears or swords fits well with mounted combat. The rest may be somewhat problematic, but for example burglars could throw knives from their horses, that would be a sight I agree that wardens may be the best at the moment with their iconic spears and javelins, not to mention that they have shields as well, and can organise jousting tournaments, if they want. Still, I hope my captain will be able to reap orcs with his halberd though, historically, halberds were used to bring down horse riders ...

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    If these warsteeds are going to be something along the lines of the 'companions' we presently have , I'm sure the concept is going to be very easy. Everyone will get horse trample; there will be three or four class-related skills and you can use them intermittently whilst on horseback along with your actual skills. Your horse will perform one skill and you will perform your own.

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Adanamir View Post
    Basically, any class that can wield two-hand weapons, spears or swords fits well with mounted combat.
    Not really when it comes to two-handed weapons. Halberds and two-handed swords or axes (etc.) are infantry weapons, not something to wave around while mounted. You'd kill your own damn horse by accident

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU View Post
    Not really when it comes to two-handed weapons. Halberds and two-handed swords or axes (etc.) are infantry weapons, not something to wave around while mounted. You'd kill your own damn horse by accident
    And what a sight that would be You are right of course, must have forgotten my brain when writing this. On the other hand, maces would be nice, as well as one-handed axes (if only to throw them around).

    On a more serious note, if lore is to be preserved, there should be three predominant weapons - spears, swords and bows, at least this is what the Rohirrim are described in using in the Lord of the Tings, if my memory doesn't fail them. There were mentioned some axes, but on foot, so there you go. This probably explains why the normal class skills are not carried over to mounted combat, and I actually support this. I mean, it's probably fun to throw fireballs on horseback, but it's too lore-breaking.

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Lore-master should have mounted skill Meaning of Haste.

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Would be kinda neat if they added creepside mounts with an option of, say, like warg and orc creeps teaming up. Could do something like instead of having a limited set of class/mount skills, give them both full access to their skill pools, maybe combine hp/mp pools too?

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    I can't wait to see hunters have to stop moving to fire off another induction. Hunter is arguably the least mobile class atm. We'll see if that changes.
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    Re: The classes that WOULD and wont work with mounted combat

    I dunno. As a Burg, I think riding a pitch-black steed through the night and slicing Warg-Riders to bits sounds kind of appealing. :P



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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceoholm View Post
    Something like: Now in the Lotro Store! All class skills useable from war horse. 1 hour for 100 tp.
    Good gravy, I hope not! :P



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    Wink Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    Quote Originally Posted by transpec View Post
    Would be kinda neat if they added creepside mounts with an option of, say, like warg and orc creeps teaming up.
    all new orc/uruk emote! /ride
    all new warg emote! /getoffme

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    All classes can work with mounted combat.

    Those that dont already have skills that can work on horseback can easily get new ones coded in as horse specific or even older skills changed to allow for horseback attacks. I hope it wont be trample and just 2 skills. It does seem that the strategy will be ride into mobs and use trample skill( rinse and repeat?).

    I assume the other skills if they are ranged then you ride into range of skill attack and fire the skill and ride about until its cooldown is over. Similarly if the skill is melee distance, you would ride up to the mob, use trample if applicable, then use the melee skill, ride off from the mob and time the return to melee range with the cooldown and repeat.
    This is called jousting in Ultima Online and it is a very successful strategy.

    If hunters, minstrels, loremasters, runekeepers are allowed to use mounted skills in line with the ground attack skills then they should happily be able to remain at range firing off their attacks as they do now.

    Melee classes being close fighting classes now should have no problem being close contact fighting mounted classes.

    The big unknown is whether mounted players will be allowed to maintain their mounted stance or if they will be unseated like they are now after a hit or two. If they are easily unseated then melee classes will have amore difficult time as they will have higher chance of finishing the fight on foot unlike range attackers who could stay at a distance and have ahigher chance of remaining on horseback.

    My thoughts are based on having played Ultima Online, a mmo that had mounted combat implemented successfully. Newer mmos havent yet succeeded in adding decent mounted combat.

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    I never really saw the point in mounted combat. Sooner or later you get knocked back off and have to fight on foot... unless your horse is impossibly invincible.
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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    From
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    "Mounted Combat: Second Generation MMORPG's gave you mounts, but these mount were nothing be "train rides" from point A to point B. Newer MMO's allow you to control these mounts, but you usually get knocked off if attacked. UO from the beginning had multiple mounts, and a fast paced combat system that incorporated them flawlessy."

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    Re: The classes that WOULd and wont work with mounted combat

    What do you mean Rks wouldnt work? It would be SO realistic when the horse spams EC of his mouth..


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