Thread: List of players with chars on snowy, let's bail on Evernight PvMP!!!

Weewooweewoo
Daes
Webrian
Dodamned
Lepakko
Sonoffara
Zlaughter
Asicar
Talgash
Merebrand
Tarkit
Vitalbite
Jakkels
Encornado
Ostorof
Dawnsinger

Note I just named the players I know them by, it's not necessarily the char they transferred with

(Also; Linko, Inkash Skittescuttle and maybe others if I remeber correctly went to snowy a long time ago)

If I missed someone do post, let's get a whole list and if you're gonna transfer or are pending do tell aswell!!!

Why is weewoo on top of this list? he was like 4rd to transfer and unimportant.

zS

Originally Posted by Dodam

Why is weewoo on top of this list? he was like 4rd to transfer and unimportant.

zS

Are you sure he wasn't 2th or 5st?

Originally Posted by Tarenius

Are you sure he wasn't 2th or 5st?

No trolling, pliis.

Got an old wargie, Dawnsinger, on Snowy too, but honestly the action I've seen on Evernight has been better lately. Not sure why you'd want to transfer to Snowy. Try to check out the other servers first with a newbie creep at least. Some of them are quite amusing (Nimrodel, Dwarrowdelf, Gilrain on a good day ...)

feel sry for snowy now but nice for evernight ^^

should just bail on LOTRO PvMP

It's ok if you leave for Snowy (quitters *cough*) but don't try to get even more people from Ever. Action is bad enough for us who stay to make it even worse withdrawing people! zS

Also, if you want to name the people who have a char on Snowy you might wanna list half of the server, because most of us have one creep created in most of the servers, just to see how the action is like.

Stay on Evernight FFS and try to improve the action in here instead of looking for a greenier grass somewhere else... =(

I'll stay for now, Enco has to ding somehow, but idk, evernight seems a lost cause, barely spars around, ppl keep complaining on both sides, freeps mainly cry if they die out of incompetance, you might find it hard to believe but imho on other servers the skill lvl of freeps is higher, on a 1v1 bases anw, even hunters roflstop at 1v1s dont see any hunt doan dat here. Besides most of the higher ranked creeps barely play.

Originally Posted by Herio

It's ok if you leave for Snowy (quitters *cough*) but don't try to get even more people from Ever. Action is bad enough for us who stay to make it even worse withdrawing people! zS

Also, if you want to name the people who have a char on Snowy you might wanna list half of the server, because most of us have one creep created in most of the servers, just to see how the action is like.

Stay on Evernight FFS and try to improve the action in here instead of looking for a greenier grass somewhere else... =(

What señor Fadino said. He brings ubre words of truth.

And I agree with you Ong, but the way to improve it is by playing, showing the newcomers that they can have fun in the moors, being respectful and helpful, that way we might grow in numbers. Also, oldschool PvPers are needed more than ever so new players learn to play. We can't afford losing skillful people like this.

Evernight was once a great server, where I and many had fun playing on it. But lately it's just pure bs, action is what the players make of it... It doesn't come with hugging like there's no tomorrow or standing in tol/ec/oc pew pewing.

Many times we've tried to get some nice battles up with a 6 man group, flanking and charging a freepzerg that's at least twice our numbers... and yet freeps run back to tol and hug npcs instead of fighting us in the open, forcing us to fight in their keep with npcs and a zerg that outnumbers us. How is that fun? I guess it's fun for freeps getting easy renown, but in the end both sides will suffer from this behaviour since creeps will disband cause of the hugging and thus the action will be back at boring oc pew pew. Boring oc pew pew means lots of creeps going afk/logging off and the result will be gy camping. Effective and easy renown? Maybe. Fun? Nope.

Now this doesn't only apply to freeps. Instead of standing at sb/wb watching how we die to a lot of freeps, creeps could also charge and fight. So many times where we charged our opponents only to find out the other creeps standing behind us doing nothing.

Now don't get me wrong... It's not like we haven't tried our best to improve the action and chose the easiest way by transferring. The transfer wasn't something that came up and immediately did it. For a long time we've discussed this, but we rather stayed on Evernight to try and improve it. We've tried a lot to improve the action but in the end it's up to the players how they want to play. If they like to hug, ezmode and create enjoyable action in their eyes, then so be it. There's nothing more we can do and nothing more we are going to do. We've done our part, now it's up to you to accept it or to refuse it.

I've given up on this server, and I sincerely hope for those who stay there can make a change and improve it. But I know I tried and I won't do that again.

Speaking on behalf of Norbogs & Friends,

We're out.

zS

Come on X, I've been pvping on this server since day 1 and like you always tried to improve the pvp, raiding, soloing, roaming, and of course I have pewpew'd too. I just won't give up. Also when I see people in the moors like Strondor, who has been there like me since day 1 and have always respected the opposite side I see a glint of hope and convince myself this can improve. *melancholic music here*

Well sry to see you lot go tbh ,always said i respected you lot for turning out ,but take it from and old pro the reason you guys are switching will mirror itself again ,its a pvp zone issue not player issue the devs are the only peeps that can truly change this ,we can set up as many raids vrs raid as we want thats not issue like i say its a zone issue ettons needs fight trap zones/walls/gates even maybe a little siege action ,you can reminisce all day about how good the action was old school but skill levels are high between players now ,like watching football old school to football today skill levels are way higher thus creating a diffrent type of action times are moving on ,devs need to cater for the newer style faster/sharper/more aware gone are the old school pile in and club each other to death was fun must admit but the sands of time are moving on.

regards pouch

Originally Posted by minnimeepouch

Well sry to see you lot go tbh ,always said i respected you lot for turning out ,but take it from and old pro the reason you guys are switching will mirror itself again ,its a pvp zone issue not player issue the devs are the only peeps that can truly change this ,we can set up as many raids vrs raid as we want thats not issue like i say its a zone issue ettons needs fight trap zones/walls/gates even maybe a little siege action ,you can reminisce all day about how good the action was old school but skill levels are high between players now ,like watching football old school to football today skill levels are way higher thus creating a diffrent type of action times are moving on ,devs need to cater for the newer style faster/sharper/more aware gone are the old school pile in and club each other to death was fun must admit but the sands of time are moving on.

regards pouch

Sure Turbine are really ###### at this PVP deal... But Players can make it better. Id say its a dev and player issue.

Sorry to see you guys go, real shame. The last 6 - 9 months have been the worst PvP imo although I didnt PvP from the beginning its been really dire.

There has been a number of factors contributing to this mainly the balance and the lack of leaders on both sides and switching easymoders. The lack of leaders causes either side to log off when confronted by an organised opposition, the balance and easymoders just compound the problems as they switch making matters worse for the people who actually try to fight for their side.

Its my final year in uni so havent been doing as much as I usually do so havent been doing my part, Lotro pvp is on the back burner at the moment as I dont need the hassle leading causes. I'll be finished in a couple of weeks and will do my best to restore some decent action to the server in regards to RvR's (which I know might not be what everyone likes) but its better than nothing.

Since leaving BG I've noticed lots of creeps on Evernight are splintered into very small niche tribes, warg stalkers, norbogs, creatures and many more. A part from BG I dont see any other tribes boasting large enough numbers to take on zergs in the circumstances that Weewoo described maybe we could look into an inter-tribe chat channel or even a vent server or something so that way raids could be formed quicker, restore a sense of balance or even just co ordination between smaller groups as not not everyone likes raids? Something to create a better sense of community that really has been lacking since SoA.

I'm sure we can come up with some solutions to the problems, we are all intelligent people excluding Nakah's deleted posts on the PvP thread

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

Since leaving BG I've noticed lots of creeps on Evernight are splintered into very small niche tribes, warg stalkers, norbogs, creatures and many more. A part from BG I dont see any other tribes boasting large enough numbers to take on zergs in the circumstances that Weewoo described maybe we could look into an inter-tribe chat channel or even a vent server or something so that way raids could be formed quicker, restore a sense of balance or even just co ordination between smaller groups as not not everyone likes raids? Something to create a better sense of community that really has been lacking since SoA.

Well something to put the tribes together would be great, but as for Warg Stalkers being a small niche tribe I think you've got that slightly wrong. We usually have a fair number of ppl online. However, most ppl active in Warg Stalkers are wargs and that's why you don't see us often in the main fight. Don't confuse this with the tribe being small though. Warg Stalkers is still large and regularly gets new members.

Originally Posted by Dawnsinger

Well something to put the tribes together would be great, but as for Warg Stalkers being a small niche tribe I think you've got that slightly wrong. We usually have a fair number of ppl online. However, most ppl active in Warg Stalkers are wargs and that's why you don't see us often in the main fight. Don't confuse this with the tribe being small though. Warg Stalkers is still large and regularly gets new members.

Your small and niche because you cant make a feasible raid out of wargs, if it was a diverse tribe then yes you could possibly stand up and make your own raids. WS really lacks in discipline and other factors as well, its an obscure tribe on the fringe of the action thats why its a niche small tribe. It could be larger and a game changer.

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

Your small and niche because you cant make a feasible raid out of wargs, if it was a diverse tribe then yes you could possibly stand up and make your own raids. WS really lacks in discipline and other factors as well, its an obscure tribe on the fringe of the action thats why its a niche small tribe. It could be larger and a game changer.

Actually you are wrong on a couple of counts. It is true that more often than not mostly Wargs are on as that is a lot of the tribe members main and how they wish to spend their in game time, but most of these have alts. Quite often, if the action is dire and boring at OC pew pew or wherever, Wargs have switched to other classes and we have formed all tribe raids, sometimes inviting others we know but rarely calling out raid up in OOC due to getting lots of tells from people who then don't listen to instructions etc, every creep/freep leaders bane. Sometimes I or another in the tribe will lead these raids, and it has changed the action on more than one occassion, flipping keeps and flanking freeps or charging them head on etc. WS is a niche tribe, but it certainly isn't small in numbers of active players, neither does it lack discipline and as for the other factors, well I'm not sure what you are
referring to. It is not on the fringe of the action, unless you mean that the players don't always stay all evening at the painfully, drearfully boring pew pew staring contests. That seems to be one of the complaints of those leaving, that the main action is often so dire, always the same old thing, and really not that much fun at times, so it's a good thing if the tribe players choose to keep away from it at times and try to create fights and actions elsewhere in the same way others have mentioned they do, but sadly the freep zerg usually follows.


As to your use of the word 'obscure tribe,' depending on your useage of the word obscure to either mean 'The quality or condition of being unknown' or 'The quality or condition of being imperfectly known or difficult to understand' I'm not sure what you mean by that. Plus, I'll ignore the small personal dig in your previous post, but perhaps it was a little deserved as I deleted it myself the following day as it did not even make sense to me. I shouldn't post after too much Whisky consumption Anyhow, this is not a thread about WS tribe so I don't want to take it off topic but just to correct some errors and misconceptions in your post that I think you have made about the tribe.

Back on topic, sad to see any player leave the server, but I can understand the reasons why people have given as to wishing to leave. I agree as has been said that it is a zone/area problem and not just a player one, and most other servers have similar issues at the moment so personally I don't think bailing is the answer.

We can't show the newbies anything, first of all because they act like they know all, second by the absence of a freep reidleader, can say I tried to guide freeps, and can understand why no one wants to lead them.
On the other side many creep newbies... zerg, blah blah blah, i totally understand if they move to snowy or any other server, just because in years maybe this is the fisrt time i can say, Evernight is lost as PvP server.

No respect between players, complainings, switching, no RvR action, just Zerging soloers for ages, or camp OC/EC, Hoardale hotspot, is of more worth for players take tokens and quick and easy renown/infamy than have fun, and enjoy battles...

So, good luck to all who start a new adventure, i'll stay a Evernight, as always...

Originally Posted by Nakah

Actually you are wrong on a couple of counts. It is true that more often than not mostly Wargs are on as that is a lot of the tribe members main and how they wish to spend their in game time, but most of these have alts. Quite often, if the action is dire and boring at OC pew pew or wherever, Wargs have switched to other classes and we have formed all tribe raids, sometimes inviting others we know but rarely calling out raid up in OOC due to getting lots of tells from people who then don't listen to instructions etc, every creep/freep leaders bane. Sometimes I or another in the tribe will lead these raids, and it has changed the action on more than one occassion, flipping keeps and flanking freeps or charging them head on etc. WS is a niche tribe, but it certainly isn't small in numbers of active players, neither does it lack discipline and as for the other factors, well I'm not sure what you are
referring to. It is not on the fringe of the action, unless you mean that the players don't always stay all evening at the painfully, drearfully boring pew pew staring contests. That seems to be one of the complaints of those leaving, that the main action is often so dire, always the same old thing, and really not that much fun at times, so it's a good thing if the tribe players choose to keep away from it at times and try to create fights and actions elsewhere in the same way others have mentioned they do, but sadly the freep zerg usually follows.


As to your use of the word 'obscure tribe,' depending on your useage of the word obscure to either mean 'The quality or condition of being unknown' or 'The quality or condition of being imperfectly known or difficult to understand' I'm not sure what you mean by that. Plus, I'll ignore the small personal dig in your previous post, but perhaps it was a little deserved as I deleted it myself the following day as it did not even make sense to me. I shouldn't post after too much Whisky consumption Anyhow, this is not a thread about WS tribe so I don't want to take it off topic but just to correct some errors and misconceptions in your post that I think you have made about the tribe.

Back on topic, sad to see any player leave the server, but I can understand the reasons why people have given as to wishing to leave. I agree as has been said that it is a zone/area problem and not just a player one, and most other servers have similar issues at the moment so personally I don't think bailing is the answer.

Meaning I havent seen ws do much else other than roam in warg packs with odd ninja group flipping keeps, sorry but I've never seen ws make a raid of mixed classes and instil fear into freeps. Your often not at the main action your on the fringes eg tr fields doing obscure things. Like I said before a warg pack is not much on its own and if you think a tongue in cheek comment is a dig when quite frankly its hilarious whether you are on freep/creep.

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

Meaning I havent seen ws do much else other than roam in warg packs with odd ninja group flipping keeps, sorry but I've never seen ws make a raid of mixed classes and instil fear into freeps. Your often not at the main action your on the fringes eg tr fields doing obscure things. Like I said before a warg pack is not much on its own and if you think a tongue in cheek comment is a dig when quite frankly its hilarious whether you are on freep/creep.

Well, it does not matter what you think you have seen being outside of the tribe, you are wrong, and it's interesting that you try to take this thread off topic and make it about WS and how they play instead of the thread starters topic. We are entitled to play how we wish, not how you want, expect, or would like us to play and your observations are clearly inaccurate and wrong and based on the very little you see. This very evening we had a decent tribe raid I led that was in the midst of the main action everywhere, thus disproving your theory about the tribe. You see very little of what the tribe does, so keep your flaming and opinions to yourself, this thread is not the place for them.

Originally Posted by Nakah

Well, it does not matter what you think you have seen being outside of the tribe, you are wrong, and it's interesting that you try to take this thread off topic and make it about WS and how they play instead of the thread starters topic. We are entitled to play how we wish, not how you want, expect, or would like us to play and your observations are clearly inaccurate and wrong and based on the very little you see. This very evening we had a decent tribe raid I led that was in the midst of the main action everywhere, thus disproving your theory about the tribe. You see very little of what the tribe does, so keep your flaming and opinions to yourself, this thread is not the place for them.

Stop responding then or this is a case of the circular room and you must argue its square. If you want to be part of the chat channel say so, if not shut your trap. Join the chat channel prove everyone wrong or continue having your greatest PvP on the forum.

Wont be responding anymore so do as you wish. Apologies to Ong and everyone for stating a opinion that invites nakah into the thread to completely ruin it.

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

Stop responding then or this is a case of the circular room and you must argue its square. If you want to be part of the chat channel say so, if not shut your trap. Join the chat channel prove everyone wrong or continue having your greatest PvP on the forum.

Wont be responding anymore so do as you wish. Apologies to Ong and everyone for stating a opinion that invites nakah into the thread to completely ruin it.

Why are you being so childish and aggressive? If you calmly read your original post, and my response, and then this one you have given, can't you see you are being way over the top m8? Calm down, seriously, no sarcasm or offence was meant at all. You criticised the WS tribe and I tried to suggest in a very civil friendly manner that you were wrong. I even admitted that a previous post I made was silly and I was embarrassed by it so I deleted it, but even so you now go for an all out aggressive attack? You will sometimes get a full creep raid if you call for it in OOC, but it will now be mostly full of noobs, certainly not full of the high ranked quality creeps that used to raid on this server, when if below a certain high rank, it was once impossible for anybody to get an invite from some of the old time creep raid leaders. This aggressive attitude you have, on the forum and in voicechat in a raid when you always blame everybody else except yourself for a wipe, is a reason why there are also a lot of high/decent ranked creeps who will now no longer raid with you as they simply cannot take your raging, and that does weaken Evernight PVP, as you were an average, perhaps even decent raid leader tactically, but you failed time and time again in your attitude and the way you spoke to, put down and treated other players. Only the most moronic players would consistently raid with you over time, those with at least a bit of dignity and self-respect, have and will not bother with you anymore unless you change your attitude. I have raided with you at times, and sometimes you with me, and we were civil in voice chat and seemed to get on fairly well, though the way you led have led your raids blaming everybody else for a wipe except yourself, has become tiresome. Your aggression in this thread is actually way over the top. I don't need or want to be in any of your raids anymore, and any decent self respecting creep with an ounce of self-will and intelligence who does raid with you, will soon realise that what I say is true. I remember your previous endless forum arguments with KOWT and other top freep kins, and I usually took your side, but they often stated that you could only ever see your own point of view and never theirs, and, I must admit, I have come to agree they were right. Sorry KOWT and other kins if I ever sided against you with this guy who can only ever see his own point of view and NEVER that of another. I apologise to you freep kins as I now see how unreasonable this guy actually is. Sadly, you were right about him

Thread poster, trace the posts, it is clearly this (cannot post the word) who is trying to derail your thread with his obsessive flaming. I would rather it got back on topic and genuinley want to read the reasons why some of the most highest skilled creep players and most high ranked and skilled on the server, wish to leave. But, sadly, this guy just want's to keep derailing it with his random raging, as has been his habit for quite some years now whenever anybody dares to make a post or statement he disagrees with.

Let's get the post back on topic and listen to why high ranked decent skilled players wish to leave Evernight, rather than listen to a troll who keeps trying to derail the thread to bring attention to himself, believing he is MR Creep Evernight who thinks everybody else must follow his infallible opinions, and vision for this server. Yeah, right. You are not MR Creep Evernight voice and you never will be despite you being so vocal and opinionated. Get it yet?

GRRRRR

Will you pair of monkeys stop flinging your poo about

United we stand divided we fall

Boonie

The Avengers

Black Guard

Originally Posted by theboon

GRRRRR

Will you pair of monkeys stop flinging your poo about

United we stand divided we fall

Boonie

The Avengers

Black Guard

Hi, andhord here, well now Frostis,
Honestly i dont understand why everybody is complaining about pvp on this server, on creep side or freep side, the complainings are exactly the same.
Since I start to play on the moors (1 year before) i always heard abouth " evernight pvmp is geting worst"
I really enjoy most of the time on the moors, some times with my hunter and sometimes with my warg.
And we are doing too much better at the moment, i saw about about 2 fellows (both sides) a lot of nights and not on weekends, and If im not wrong when I was playing 6 month before it happens only on few weekends.

The fact is, people doesnt like to die.
If they die they got really angry, so normally they use the option to play (like some of us guys) considerate that like "lammer" or "easymode" and then u blame them (BOTH sides)
Thats my opinion, if you are going to play a pvp, u are suppose to get ready to die,
If u got, and u call the other player "lammer" it means that u are not good player.
I have a really bad stats on my hunter, and u know? I really know how tu use my hunter but as my gameplay is, I got more fun soloing and trying to get surprise. the gameplay that I follow made me to be focused a lot of times and I normally it was always at least funny.
Im tired to read stupids arguments....for example?
"Oh what a n00b warg, he used disappear, if he wouldnt I should solo him"
"Oh my god!!! what a n00b captain he used last stand, if he wouldnt I should solo him"
Let me ask u something guys, then....everytime u got me over the rock u are using easy mode, right???
And then, u say Evernight is not working blabla, no my friend, mentality is not working.

Originally Posted by xFr0sT

Hi, andhord here, well now Frostis,
Honestly i dont understand why everybody is complaining about pvp on this server, on creep side or freep side, the complainings are exactly the same.
Since I start to play on the moors (1 year before) i always heard abouth " evernight pvmp is geting worst"
I really enjoy most of the time on the moors, some times with my hunter and sometimes with my warg.
And we are doing too much better at the moment, i saw about about 2 fellows (both sides) a lot of nights and not on weekends, and If im not wrong when I was playing 6 month before it happens only on few weekends.

The fact is, people doesnt like to die.
If they die they got really angry, so normally they use the option to play (like some of us guys) considerate that like "lammer" or "easymode" and then u blame them (BOTH sides)
Thats my opinion, if you are going to play a pvp, u are suppose to get ready to die,
If u got, and u call the other player "lammer" it means that u are not good player.
I have a really bad stats on my hunter, and u know? I really know how tu use my hunter but as my gameplay is, I got more fun soloing and trying to get surprise. the gameplay that I follow made me to be focused a lot of times and I normally it was always at least funny.
Im tired to read stupids arguments....for example?
"Oh what a n00b warg, he used disappear, if he wouldnt I should solo him"
"Oh my god!!! what a n00b captain he used last stand, if he wouldnt I should solo him"
Let me ask u something guys, then....everytime u got me over the rock u are using easy mode, right???
And then, u say Evernight is not working blabla, no my friend, mentality is not working.

So ppl are transfering because they DIE? That doesnt seem to be the right reason from my understanding since were dying alot more on snowy.

People are very agitated about current state of balance, <LOTROS FAULT> but it's upto >players< to make it better, which DOES differ on other servers.

My personal experience of moors:
Both sides solo/small group (Lep Enco and I vs Extrima & watch as example)
Both sides take measures vs those groups/gankers
-----Freeps are insanely OP since RoI------
Freeps raid up and zerg the #### outa ppl
Creeps do not raid up Coz:
Creeps lack raidleaders and experienced ppl to counter OP freeps (incompetance does matter here)
It results in OC camp
Define how this is any good?

Yes daes does raid occasionally raid, and never a full raid the days I play, but still steamroll freeps, and they complain, which is hilarious... simply because they shouldn't wipe, yet aren't used to resistance thus never needed skill, but ultimately this resulted in the freeps remaining mediocore.

Don't come with the arguement but creeps are OP, this is plain and UTTER BS. I've lead freep raids, MOSTLY freep 6mans with creep-freeps, AND I STEAMROLLED, ALWAYS, it's why the name Ongbyrz is generally hated, because I switch and well... Kill, everyone.

Aside from that, I love 1v1s, most players hate it because ''its unbalanced and whatsoever'' but it's the ultimate test and only even fight in numbers you will ever get. Now ''1v1s on a bigger scale, aka 6v6 or RvR'' I've asked several times on forums for organised fights vs my (creep or freep) groups, nobody wanted (ill leave out the specefics). Yet on other servers people still do regularly, so when people are transferring away from here, is not because they can't stand dying, but they actaully want to die rather than wait for let's say chicho or zizel waiting near npcs till a steamroll raid is up.

derailed....

Ettons needs a facelift thats the true reason of the switch ,its stale either way no move for me.

regards pouch.

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

Creeps lack raidleaders and experienced ppl to counter OP freeps (incompetance does matter here)
It results in OC camp
Define how this is any good?

OC Camp is the result of rolling high amonuts of ba's not the lack of raidleader at creepside, tbh, makes no sense leading both sides actually.

Fine you wanna leave Evernight for Snowy but why make this terribly negative post? Why not stay on Evernight and try to make it better. Surely the inbalance favouring freeps atm is the same on any server?

And wow Snowy seems like nirvana, freeps don't hug npcs or zerg there....yeah right

Originally Posted by Hayley

OC Camp is the result of rolling high amonuts of ba's not the lack of raidleader at creepside, tbh, makes no sense leading both sides actually.

Seriously , what ?

Without those BA's it's just a bunch of melees / squishies getting camped inside the OC .

There's a huge gap between the amount of ranged freeps and melees .

Originally Posted by D3str0yer

So ppl are transfering because they DIE? That doesnt seem to be the right reason from my understanding since were dying alot more on snowy.

This.

I tried pvp on a big crowded server and have a r6 Warg there. Didn't enjoy getting zerged by even bigger numbers. Pvp on Evernight, got r6 Warg and r5 Defiler, is less reckless and more fun, though you get lower renown/infamy numbers. I guess the bigger renown/infamy number made Snowbourn attractive, but does it make up for the reputation and friends you lose here ?

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

People are very agitated about current state of balance, <LOTROS FAULT> but it's upto >players< to make it better, which DOES differ on other servers.

My personal experience of moors:
Both sides solo/small group (Lep Enco and I vs Extrima & watch as example)
Both sides take measures vs those groups/gankers
-----Freeps are insanely OP since RoI------
Freeps raid up and zerg the #### outa ppl
Creeps do not raid up Coz:
Creeps lack raidleaders and experienced ppl to counter OP freeps (incompetance does matter here)
It results in OC camp
Define how this is any good?

Yes daes does raid occasionally raid, and never a full raid the days I play, but still steamroll freeps, and they complain, which is hilarious... simply because they shouldn't wipe, yet aren't used to resistance thus never needed skill, but ultimately this resulted in the freeps remaining mediocore.

Don't come with the arguement but creeps are OP, this is plain and UTTER BS. I've lead freep raids, MOSTLY freep 6mans with creep-freeps, AND I STEAMROLLED, ALWAYS, it's why the name Ongbyrz is generally hated, because I switch and well... Kill, everyone.

Aside from that, I love 1v1s, most players hate it because ''its unbalanced and whatsoever'' but it's the ultimate test and only even fight in numbers you will ever get. Now ''1v1s on a bigger scale, aka 6v6 or RvR'' I've asked several times on forums for organised fights vs my (creep or freep) groups, nobody wanted (ill leave out the specefics). Yet on other servers people still do regularly, so when people are transferring away from here, is not because they can't stand dying, but they actaully want to die rather than wait for let's say chicho or zizel waiting near npcs till a steamroll raid is up.

Anyway it doesnt make sense, in my opinion if you are complaining about unbalanced currently game is, the only option you have actually is to leave the game completly...because as I know on Snowburn server, the freeps still overpowered.
and if there are more players, you are going to get more zerg because its suppose to be the most "easy" way to get infamy/renow...
Even when you complaing about the way they some freeps play (zizel and company) ,i think this is a bit hipocrisy:
I have a lot of complaining about my gameplay, "as newbie" , "lammer" and a lof of negative things.
I use a gameplay in one way what gives me the advantage and the chance to kill more...
I mean to kill more because as many of u know the hunter is the worst class for the moors if you want to solo.
If a warg pack got the chance to get me down, they are going to do for sure (as It should be)
If a ba got the chance to get me down, its the same, and all the creeps remaining the same.
And it doesnt matter where, when and how, because EVERYBODY has zerg,gank, solo, fellow anytime....
Honestly, the rock that i use to kill from stealth, i killed a lot more since I used this, but I also died more since I used ...
If you really doesnt mind to die why its so hard to u make a charge?
I has been on creep sides and freep sides with low quantity of players in my side and we won the charge only because they got afraid and they run away from us thinking the way how to get out insted of thinking the way to kill us.
And im not talking only with my creeps, im talking about both sides because in my opinion, Ettens has a lot of psychology to use and we only use about as the same as the brain, 10%.
so all i want to let u know with this, is that i support in part what u say that we need to improve on ettens, but...
leaving the server of course is not the way, in my opinion, the best would happens to lotro is they start to mix servers.

Originally Posted by xFr0sT

leaving the server of course is not the way, in my opinion, the best would happens to lotro is they start to mix servers.

I like this idea!

Also one question - is Sonoffara transferring his wl to Snowy again? I thought he already transferred a R9 one over there from last time and re-rolled + re-ranked on Evernight? Now I'm getting confused...

Originally Posted by 'Ongbyrz.

I've lead freep raids, MOSTLY freep 6mans with creep-freeps, AND I STEAMROLLED, ALWAYS, it's why the name Ongbyrz is generally hated, because I switch and well... Kill, everyone.

That'd be the most flattering explanation yes, yet perhaps not the only one, but whatever.

To anyone transferring I wish you good luck on your new server.

To anyone thinking about it: for goodness sake just make sure you're going to like it there before you go, play on a greenie for a bit to check it out, we've seen plenty of people transfer and then just end up leaving game altogether when they didn't like it and couldn't come back.

Better you play anywhere than not at all.

Having transferred some characters to other servers in the past i can also only recommend to think it over properly before you make the move. You might regret it!

Im sad seeing few people trying to move snowy, nice players they are. So this isnt good for Evernight. But its not the end.

I will miss Wewo. Thats the only 1000% good person who haves word and its pure, like my greek mom. U the best X. (QQ)

Give us more cool guys plz, we like it.

Kori from snowzy.