Thread: Call It Out

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Thank you mysterious level 73 burglar Arranlas, who tried your very best at Hoarhallow, only to keep me occupied with amusement until Robzombolo got there - a minstrel who is often seen in the company of burglars because he can't 1v1 even in his own NPCs - who kited me around, yelling for all the good it did him, until Greenwen arrives (another person who is afraid to die, who'll try to ensnare you in NPCs and deny you an open 1v1 field fight) and drains my power before initiating the stun fest - that's all she can do, anyway.

Thank you very much for all your courage and for the great skill it took you three to bring me down.

I would also like to thank Neuillas for being an ace earlier, for at least sticking around for an honorable death (not mine this time), which happened too quickly for Adamanta to save you.

Yours truly,

Spacemonkey Ninja

Not trying to be disrespectful...but its the moors and you die.

Ah, yeah... but my point is this: freeps are afraid to die. Why does a burglar wait for a minstrel who waits for a Lore-master in the middle of Hoarhallow in order to kill me?

Or... why do Ullrson and Beleborn roam around looking for solo creeps, instead of looking for a challenging fight? Just now they killed me while I was fighting a 70k drake in Isen. Seriously?

Why do Freeps come out to the Moors if they don't want a challenge, if they don't expect to die? You've worked hard for that gear, so put it and your skills to the test instead of entering farming mode. You're not going to lose renown. There's nothing really to be gained from farming it.

All I can say is: 'In the company of Burglars'? Burgs are a SOLO class, like wargs...oops, I forgot I was talking to a creep...you guys don't have the talent to have a warg solo. I have a burg and never group on it and haven't played the minstrel in a month. In response to the other fallicy you posted: I solo all the time on my minnie and most of the time in YOUR NPCs. All I can say is: ANYWHERE AND ANYTIME you want a 1v1...and by 1v1 I mean the freep version of 1v1...me versus you (minus the accompanying warg pack) and we can have lots of fun. Much love and see you out there (with the fail pack).

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I roam the map looking for soloers but im the invincible OP class. I guess im a ez moder...

Originally Posted by Olorinistari

All I can say is: 'In the company of Burglars'? Burgs are a SOLO class, like wargs...oops, I forgot I was talking to a creep...you guys don't have the talent to have a warg solo. I have a burg and never group on it and haven't played the minstrel in a month. In response to the other fallicy you posted: I solo all the time on my minnie and most of the time in YOUR NPCs. All I can say is: ANYWHERE AND ANYTIME you want a 1v1...and by 1v1 I mean the freep version of 1v1...me versus you (minus the accompanying warg pack) and we can have lots of fun. Much love and see you out there (with the fail pack).

What warg pack?

So I take it that you didn't heed the call of a burglar in HH, nor did you invite your friend, Greenwen, along to join in the hunt? Or was it merely coincidence.

Originally Posted by Piccolopasso

What warg pack?

So I take it that you didn't heed the call of a burglar in HH, nor did you invite your friend, Greenwen, along to join in the hunt? Or was it merely coincidence.

You and Dagr used to be the burg packing EZmoders hiding in NPC's or ganking people with Ranko 3v1 back in the day, when myself and my peeps were full time creeps. Ahh how the world goes around, enjoy the 'moors!

True. And the Moors have changed considerably.

How's your health?

I believe these guys have embraced the most noble creep tradition. Using OOC!!! It sucks that freeps have to call out in ooc for 1 creep, but what can you do? I guess raging a bit and just coming back to the fight or do something else kinda helps,imho. Hard to expect any honour in fighting these days.
Cheers
P.S. Toq is storebought still =p

Originally Posted by Piccolopasso

True. And the Moors have changed considerably.

How's your health?

I have no doubt the 'moors has changed less than your perspective of it, but noted. Health's good, finally!
On another note I gave all my gold/crests/brooches/brilliants to Kimrie, please make an attempt to try and scab free stuff.
If I were to ever return I would have to be good at getting on my knees and saying please to save being a poor man.

Here is what I would do in that situation.

#1- Seeing a lvl 73 burg in HH, knowing damn well he couldnt beat me (or you in that case) but stuck around would have left me to think " ooo im sure he is calling in support " Cause he sure isn't here to kill me by his self being level 73.

#2- Map to grams.

#3- Wait about 3-5 mins

#4- Go back and continue farming.

Pretty much the same thing I do at the rez, you should just expect more people coming.
And id like to say creeps do the same thing all the time as this situation here.

EX: OOC: ONE BURG IN GROTHUM, EVERYONE MAP AND ZERG HIM!

Its the same thing on both sides. Simply put.
And volo, come back already!

Originally Posted by Olorinistari

All I can say is: 'In the company of Burglars'? Burgs are a SOLO class, like wargs...oops, I forgot I was talking to a creep...you guys don't have the talent to have a warg solo.

Quite a lot of wargs solo. >90% of the time these days, I am, if on my warg (although that itself is not often). It's just not always apparent to the other side who is, or is not, running solo. If you see 4 or 6 wargs on track, they aren't necessarily grouped.

Not directed at anyone in particular, but I have always believed that the most serious impediment to having fun on the moors is taking it all way too seriously. If on a creep or freep, my personal goal is to cause as much merry mayhem as I can. Whether I do that poorly or well on any given day is far less important to me as whether it is fun or not.

[QUOTE=Irenmund;6017297]Quite a lot of wargs solo. >90% of the time these days, I am, if on my warg (although that itself is not often). It's just not always apparent to the other side who is, or is not, running solo. If you see 4 or 6 wargs on track, they aren't necessarily grouped.QUOTE]

Please! the definition of group is: a number of individuals assembled together or having some unifying relationship. If there are 6 wargs and they are all in the same immediate area, attacking the same target, whether in a 'fellowship' or not, they are grouped and that's what I'm talking about.
I almost never see a truly solo warg doing anything (with rare exceptions) and If I do find said solo warg he almost invariably runs away rather than fight me 1v1 unless I have 4 NPCs on me already.
Mistyvapor, you stand in a class by yourself...at least Handbanana and Mischiefmaker work together and get kills. Misty's standard operating procedure is as follows:
1) Bloody Maul and run to hide behind a terrain feature
2) Watch as the group of wargs he is 'working with' do the hard work
3) Come out at the last second to try to get the KB when the target has been sufficiently softened and no longer poses ANY threat

And finally: Yeah, Madame, it was a coincidence that I showed up to save the poor ineffectual 73 burg that you were petting to death. Just a thought: Stop playing with your food and get eradicate your quarry quickly and then maybe you and I can have some real fun whilst I stomp your guts out with extreme joy...see you out there buddy and keep enjoying the game the way we all love to...with a roar of delight in victory attained or QQ in the forums when we fail to achieve.
Cheers!

Geeze Madame, you QQed as a Burg and now you QQ as a Defiler. Did you really expect that a lvl 73 Burg could beat your store bought uberness? You play without a doubt THE hardest class to kill 1v1, RK's have trouble killing Defilers 1v1. Please go back Freep, you give Creeps a bad name, thats failioths job.

Originally Posted by Olorinistari

Please! the definition of group is: a number of individuals assembled together or having some unifying relationship. If there are 6 wargs and they are all in the same immediate area, attacking the same target, whether in a 'fellowship' or not, they are grouped and that's what I'm talking about.
I almost never see a truly solo warg doing anything (with rare exceptions) and If I do find said solo warg he almost invariably runs away rather than fight me 1v1 unless I have 4 NPCs on me already.
Mistyvapor, you stand in a class by yourself...at least Handbanana and Mischiefmaker work together and get kills. Misty's standard operating procedure is as follows:
1) Bloody Maul and run to hide behind a terrain feature
2) Watch as the group of wargs he is 'working with' do the hard work
3) Come out at the last second to try to get the KB when the target has been sufficiently softened and no longer poses ANY threat

And finally: Yeah, Madame, it was a coincidence that I showed up to save the poor ineffectual 73 burg that you were petting to death. Just a thought: Stop playing with your food and get eradicate your quarry quickly and then maybe you and I can have some real fun whilst I stomp your guts out with extreme joy...see you out there buddy and keep enjoying the game the way we all love to...with a roar of delight in victory attained or QQ in the forums when we fail to achieve.
Cheers!

By your definition then you and almost every Freep I see when I'm on is also "grouped", me being the sole soloer, since I am rarely where the main action is, hows that for irony

Please don't include Wrecks in the same thread with mistyHiPs, hannaIcan'tsolo, and sprintmaker. He's been here for quite awhile and has been a noted soloer for most of that time.

Le Pep Cchick where are you!!! Mistyvapor your mentor of frightness from others i think could use your help. Hannah and MM have played together for years in different games i ahve heard....much respect for that friendship. Though I would like to 1v1 one of them for once.

Originally Posted by Ramiel_87

I have no doubt the 'moors has changed less than your perspective of it, but noted. Health's good, finally!
On another note I gave all my gold/crests/brooches/brilliants to Kimrie, please make an attempt to try and scab free stuff.
If I were to ever return I would have to be good at getting on my knees and saying please to save being a poor man.

If you got on your knee's for me i'd give you what you want. O.o

Too much win nowadays. As for the Freeps are afraid to die rant. Yesterday I was pretty much the only one with stones to run into a BA firing squad after being farmed at Lugz rez for 2 hours. Even shouting push ffs! I'd sprint in - horn, get one BA down to about 3k or so after getting blown up, only to watch freeps sit within arms distance of the 1 shots.

Not bashing freeps - Creepside is just as guilty. Only difference in creepside is that you'll at least get a defiler HoT every once in a while.

As for the wargs, couldn't agree more. I've grown very fond of the Pounce and run method. But I must say, BA's on top of the Rock at Lugz rez, with a defiler in the middle, and warg fest camping the bottom of the rock took the cake yesterday.

Originally Posted by johnnyskywalker

Here is what I would do in that situation.

#1- Seeing a lvl 73 burg in HH, knowing damn well he couldnt beat me (or you in that case) but stuck around would have left me to think " ooo im sure he is calling in support " Cause he sure isn't here to kill me by his self being level 73.

#2- Map to grams.

#3- Wait about 3-5 mins

#4- Go back and continue farming.

Pretty much the same thing I do at the rez, you should just expect more people coming.
And id like to say creeps do the same thing all the time as this situation here.

EX: OOC: ONE BURG IN GROTHUM, EVERYONE MAP AND ZERG HIM!

Its the same thing on both sides. Simply put.
And volo, come back already!

Oh and TOQ - I would have gladly fought you 1v1 the other day at TR rez. I was trying to hide behind the rock cause you caught me with pizza in one hand. I was willing to still give it a shot until the WL decided to toss you a bubble. At that point, I just decided to keep eating pizza. Fat guy ftw

And after the millionth post there was light.... I mean, mirk

Lighten up pplz! This is only pvp, where you could practically kill ppl in your sleep



Oh, and Im calling out fart-warmers, b/c i can

Thank you for putting your opinions into perspective, people. It's good to talk about this. I am too serious about PVP at times; I let the anxiety of other aspects of my life seep into my expectations of what PVP should be and what it actually is.

Is there a way to make our PVP zone better? I would say move 1v1s, but the classes are so imbalanced now.

To those of you who accuse me of "QQ" and playing OP classes. I'm only trying to call out the sometimes ignoble actions of others. You are completely free to do the same. That's why I made this thread. By pointing out what we think is an injustice to how PVP should be played, it helps communicate to the other side, and it might go so far as to make a better PVP environment.

I also play a reaver, Investigator, and a spider, Loom, depending on the situation and what I feel like doing. Neither of these classes is what I would consider to be overpowered. I've been playing the monkey lately to get to rank 7, which I did last night, thanks to those who donated at the rez camp.

Remember this one Toq?

(OOC) Toq "Bigslick PTA Solo!!!"

Edited based on the limited functionality of my DROID phone.

Wargs being solo...meh, a couple perhaps, but as someone stated they always run if they are. I'm mostly seeing mid-ranked, new named wargs who run in their packs (Yeah, sometimes I see advertisements for them over on creepside whenever I go over.) It's starting to feel like Mirkwood all over again.

Players on both sides are at fault. I don't care for some of the people here, or the way they play. Can't change that, but it gets frustrating. This server has always been low on people who like to (truly) solo, and on people who understand that there's some respect to be had...even if this is just a game.

Also, very low amount of aggression on both sides. Most of the aggression is used in OOC, Glff, or forums instead of out in the moors. :\

Originally Posted by 87_Suited

Remember this one Toq?

(OOC) Toq "Bigslick PTA Solo!!!"

Edited based on the limited functionality of my DROID phone.

Haha! I do clearly remember that. OOC saved me!
Im guilty as charged
No shame in this game xD

Originally Posted by thulphant

Le Pep Cchick where are you!!! Mistyvapor your mentor of frightness from others i think could use your help. Hannah and MM have played together for years in different games i ahve heard....much respect for that friendship. Though I would like to 1v1 one of them for once.

Yes we've been friends for years and enjoy playing together, helps alot especially during those down times with no action. as for 1v1s ask, but dont be like dingo and ask for 1 then never show up.

Honor isn't store bought it is something you hold yourself to. Space monkey is a great player and helps everyone in the moors.

the situation was obvious, space monkey fighting mobs in hoarhallow minding his own. burg shows up can't beat him. Burg is a peice of trash with no honor and should go away.

Space monkey should not have been ganked like that unfairly.

Freeps need to grow up and fight fair fights, let the farming creeps finish the mobs and eat food as if most of us even have a chance.

You choose do you have honor?

Thanks for the post monkey was needed.

Also want to give credit to the freeps fighting at rez wed night, great job and thanks for sticking in there.

Originally Posted by RealRabbit

Honor isn't store bought it is something you hold yourself to. Space monkey is a great player and helps everyone in the moors.

the situation was obvious, space monkey fighting mobs in hoarhallow minding his own. burg shows up can't beat him. Burg is a peice of trash with no honor and should go away.

Space monkey should not have been ganked like that unfairly.

Freeps need to grow up and fight fair fights, let the farming creeps finish the mobs and eat food as if most of us even have a chance.

You choose do you have honor?

Thanks for the post monkey was needed.

Also want to give credit to the freeps fighting at rez wed night, great job and thanks for sticking in there.

I like playing with and against Madame/Spacemonkey/Investigator. I like playing with and against all y'all... but please take one key principle in mind...

The Ettenmoors is a PvMP zone... all y'all know the riskz.

Freeps/Creeps for once, forget you have class.... see a defiler u wanna kill? Just grab it on the biskets. (Modified Lyrics from "Dowatchalike - Digital Underground")

Originally Posted by RealRabbit

Honor isn't store bought it is something you hold yourself to. Space monkey is a great player and helps everyone in the moors.

the situation was obvious, space monkey fighting mobs in hoarhallow minding his own. burg shows up can't beat him. Burg is a peice of trash with no honor and should go away.

Space monkey should not have been ganked like that unfairly.

Freeps need to grow up and fight fair fights, let the farming creeps finish the mobs and eat food as if most of us even have a chance.

You choose do you have honor?

Thanks for the post monkey was needed.

Also want to give credit to the freeps fighting at rez wed night, great job and thanks for sticking in there.

So your honestly saying that because the level 73 burg didnt fight one of the hardest class's to solo he is trash because of that? Lets see you roll a 73 burg out there and even think of fighting anything, and a unfair ganking? If I had a penny every time something like this has happened on freep or creep side id be a millionaire.

Your response to this post has to be one of the most ridiculous things ive seen in awhile, people really think like this??? Sorry man not trying to hate on you but damn..

LMFAO..what a ridiculous bunch of ####..I wonder what you will be saying when creeps will get their upper hand again or what class you will play when U6 hits. Lethal litter warg pack will be back in action? nuff said

Originally Posted by Rankesh

Yes we've been friends for years and enjoy playing together, helps alot especially during those down times with no action. as for 1v1s ask, but dont be like dingo and ask for 1 then never show up.

I do play at work....you know.....a job? I'll 1v1 you hanna, not that an organized fight between 2 stealth classes means much. Also, it won't be at GTA, like I'm really going to 1v1 at a Creep map spot ./facepalm. PM me here and we'll set it up, best 2 out of 3 is what I usually do, so you have to actually manage cool downs.

Originally Posted by vhamster

LMFAO..what a ridiculous bunch of ####..I wonder what you will be saying when creeps will get their upper hand again or what class you will play when U6 hits. Lethal litter warg pack will be back in action? nuff said

Correction, Weaver Pack!!!!

People think like this yes, had to start questing on my warg since freeps continually hunt box farmers.

So a level 73 burg can't beat a creep? he is trash and shouldn't call in the gank squad no rep for him for that weak move.

Lethal litter was a tribe of wargs out to have fun thats it, never claimed we would take over the server. Volo you quit remember?

anyways perhaps your right, i apologize for my post.

Just would like to see abit more honor from people playing a game like lotro which in my opinion has a higher maturity level out of most mmo's still in the market.

Regardless of your opinion next time you go to kill a creep at dwarves let them at least finish fighting the mobs, not like your going to loose anyways.

Originally Posted by RealRabbit

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Its the moors, people die, you're in SoD so you should be familiar with that concept.

I ganked a warg yesterday farming lurkers, he sprinted away as soon as my Trip wore off. Five minutes later he tries to gank me while I'm killing wolves, he runs away again when he starts losing. Both sides do everything the other side does, honor left the moors many years ago, if it was ever there at all.

Spidey your sod bashing is getting old. You offer your opinion on just about everything which is good since perspective is what makes us who we are but leave SOD out of this, only a small portion of us pvp. Grima is gone.......black blade is mostly gone.............lets move on to whats happening now.


You mention the days of good pvp are gone? it's because people refuse to adapt to change. why not make nimrodel a more honorable place?

I did quit, no need to remind me of that, however, i never said id not stick around the community. There are many of us who aren't playing the game but still here on the forums to keep up to date. There are times when action is dead and there is barely any creeps/freeps, what exactly do you propose for a pvp-er to do? you go out there and roam, which is what most soloers do. You catch a few farmers on the way, always fun stomping hawkfarmer killing npcs in grothum, whatever happened to him? it's the way it is...it's called a pvp zone for a reason...man, i wonder how much raging is actually going on when lower level ganking is involved in other games? anyway, no beef with ya, just stating my opinion, maybe in a heated manner.

I was letting creeps who were farming NPCs live, but then I got killed while just watching a few times, so screw you all.

All your slug pits belong to me.

Originally Posted by RealRabbit

why not make nimrodel a more honorable place?

Idk, one does not simply MAKE every1 else play according to their play-styles... Although some people just suck (like my hunter) so theyre not simply going to gank alone and feed you kills... And some are good enough to solo, so they'd prob stick around to fight to the death.


Simply put, some ppl suck, and others dont!

Depending on who the Creep/Freep is determines if I wait for them to finish killing or not. Usually its not, its never been reciprocated, I'm ganked all the time while on NPC's, its a PvP zone.

Just last week some freaver found me in Grothum while I was on the escort quest, he didn't attack me and luckily for him, he didn't agro Alf, so I left him alone. In comes some Mini and he blew up the freaver, stuff happens. I'm sure that freaver thinks I called the Mini in, I did not. Now if that freaver even looked like he was going to attack me I'd stop worrying about Alf and destroy him.

Go play a real open world PvP game and see how things are done there. Bottomline, if you want to make all these silly rules just stay out of the moors, you aren't built for it.