Thread: No need to do raids?

So after weeks of doing ToO T2 runs we are extremely unlucky as kinship with the 1st age symbols. Only the first time we did lightning T2 we got 2 1st age symbols (lucky) All the runs after that including other T2's ended with no 1st agers.

A few days ago someone from the kin who was grinding lvl75 monsters for lootboxes got 1, opened it and voila, a 1st age symbol... I'm really happy for him even though it turned out not that great, but is this really what is happening to the game? The ultimate reward for raiders atm is to get a 1st age symbol, but now you can grind monsters, spend TP and get a chance to get a 1st ager? While grinding monsters you even get a lot of silver/gold +hides +other items you can craft/sell. While with raiding you can lose a lot of money to repairs/hope/scrolls/pots etc...

This seems very very wrong in my opinion.

they should increase the drop of lootbox so hard to get one :s

Is selling them or buying them in AH ok? or should they be stopped as well.

I totally disagree with the OP.

I don't see how someone else getting very lucky in any way minimizes raiding.

Frankly I am glad to see there is another way to get one.

Cor if I got the high roll ... and a clasp plus 1st age symbol dropped ... I'd personally take the clasp.

If I'm not mistaken, by now my server has more First Ages from Lootboxes then from Orthanc. Raiders grind monsters between raids, other L75 grind monsters all the time, L75 Lootboxes sell on AH for over 150 Gold easily (a chance on a symbol!). Once the first person got it, others got into it as well and soon there were more Elder King Symbols from lootboxes than from Orthanc.

Originally Posted by Malachi108

If I'm not mistaken, by now my server has more First Ages from Lootboxes then from Orthanc. Raiders grind monsters between raids, other L75 grind monsters all the time, L75 Lootboxes sell on AH for over 150 Gold easily (a chance on a symbol!). Once the first person got it, others got into it as well and soon there were more Elder King Symbols from lootboxes than from Orthanc.

Only 150g? They're selling ( not just listed, they have bids on ) for over 400g on Snowbourn.

It seems ridiculous to me to spend so much money on a 'chance' for a symbol, when you can buy an actual symbol for only 450g. But such is life

I think the real problem is that 1st age weapons are the ultimate goal for raiders. With how completely random and volatile the LI system is (that 1st weapon will probably be replaced with a level 85 3rd ager) there's no gear-oriented draw for me to do anything above a 6-man instance. I want to try it a few times for the novelty, but I have no desire to grind raids like I had in other games.

Originally Posted by Hydragyrum

I think the real problem is that 1st age weapons are the ultimate goal for raiders. With how completely random and volatile the LI system is (that 1st weapon will probably be replaced with a level 85 3rd ager) there's no gear-oriented draw for me to do anything above a 6-man instance. I want to try it a few times for the novelty, but I have no desire to grind raids like I had in other games.

Which is why if given the opportunity ... I'd much rather have the clasp. Anything I make with a worn eldar king symbol I know will be replaced by the end of the year. But if I get a cloak upgrade; I would have that cosmetic for a lifetime.

Originally Posted by Bragard

Is selling them or buying them in AH ok? or should they be stopped as well.

That's completely different, buying items from the Auction House involves using Gold you can only earn by playing the game.

I don't mind the 1st Age Symbols dropping from Loot-boxes, however there shouldn't be ANY aspect of a Loot-box that involves a trip to the LOTRO Store. The most desired item in the game should never be obtained by making a purchase in the Store...

Originally Posted by Bragard

Is selling them or buying them in AH ok? or should they be stopped as well.

The symbols are selling over 1000g. If you're willing to pay that much I say all the power to you.

500-1000g is a small price to pay for those people who don't have a hardcore raiding kin downing saruman a few times a week with alts etc.

getting him down with a PUG is no small feat. Handing over cash for a reward that you are never sure to get is a deal compared to the time you'll spend trying to ace him.

Originally Posted by PANZERBUNNY

500-1000g is a small price to pay for those people who don't have a hardcore raiding kin downing saruman a few times a week with alts etc.

getting him down with a PUG is no small feat. Handing over cash for a reward that you are never sure to get is a deal compared to the time you'll spend trying to ace him.

T2 Saruman has yet to be beaten without the exploit. This is the last I heard at least.