Lotro pvp is very meh of late , several factors to this , creep broken mits so freeps hit harder , creep dps not kept upto balance with the uncapping of stats for freeps, if u played now u would be seriously thinking why didn't I roll a mincer etc etc etc
Lack of any real talent freep leader wise , we had a period of Doglipstick(Darkmystic no malice intended as most know I make up names for lots of freeps/creeps when leading) during the middle of last year. Not many times I've had a full creep raid up ,though had a nice 1 late May when globalOOC was shouting for a 3rd raid against mine and whatever followed me around.1k of infamy from 1 push alone with 50 freeps dead and only 2 or 3 creeps dead
Many freeps miss the old style of raid bashes with either yourself or myself at the helm for freeps
1 freep has come to me asking if we could get something going ,I've offered to drop in on freep to lend a hand so who knows there might still be life in the old dog yet
hmm you could return to lotro on creepside that way you won't need to lvl a new toon and we could use all the help we can get reavers are f2p now after all
From what I heard you were a raid leader, and we could use more of those for sure, as well as dps, heals, mitigations, numbers ... but small steps in the right direction are good too
Duskdancer, warg: If found please return to Gwairin, lvl 65 hunter in Evernight
Dawnsinger, warg: Currently working as police dog in Moors with the Angmar Inquisition
hmm you could return to lotro on creepside that way you won't need to lvl a new toon and we could use all the help we can get reavers are f2p now after all
From what I heard you were a raid leader, and we could use more of those for sure, as well as dps, heals, mitigations, numbers ... but small steps in the right direction are good too
I know they did impose a deadline for the migrating thing but I'd be sure everyone still got moved as it was a simple server transition.
My charactor Arcanas is on the current Evernight server but I cant access it and wont be able to because of this limited time transfer thing.
Facepalm.
:O Hellfang?
Playing starwars oO? Its terribad and full of fanbois who think its good oO
I made a freebie reaver called facepalm today to see the action, seems dire compared to the old days Creeps had huge number advantage was just ganking for hours, then freeps made some awful raid and get farmed a bit more. Slack :X
Still I did have some fun suiciding at Watchtower and having a smoke with Fingerz so it wasn't all bad.
I'm not Hellfang pakete... And came back from SWTOR just a few days before trying, as most of the ppl, prob ISM is still there must log someday to see... enjoy GW2
Hehey Cane! Everything good with you? Haven't seen or spoken with you in a while. Myself have been quite inactive for a couple of months, just dropping by on forums now & then to check if any fancy stuff is going on.. Also just dropping in-game on my (these days) f2p account to have a chat with Fartenius, Fattsu, etc.
But yeah, Lotro is pretty history for me now. I don't find myself coming back any soon as an active player, as I'm currently pretty much addicted to Mount & Musket as much as my education just steals off all my time.
Yes it functions slightly differently to the freep version (like all skills) but it is a shieldwall.
If it has a limited time span - not a shield-wall. The main purpose and benefit of a guardians shield-wall is it provides constant protection providing you stay in range. Plus it has a short cooldown. If the Def skill has a limited time span and thus presumably a cooldown of a few minutes or more then it can't be compared to the shield-wall.
Thus my vision of you rolling a reaver and running off to the mountains to live as a goat would be correct. No permanent protection = cowering cane.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Come along now Bellen, I hand out a 2 year advantage and your knowledge is still fail
Knowledge=/=competence. You didn't run around solo because you had none of the latter.
"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Rune-Keeper! A Rune-Keeper is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Tolkien's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face."
It is a shield wall effect. Stop wriggling and admit that you forgot about it.
I soloed from rank 0-10~ but as you were a late arrival to the server you are forgiven for not knowing that I only started raid leading because soloing was getting old.
Its ok Beleg, one day you'l be right and you can be proud.
It is a shield wall effect. Stop wriggling and admit that you forgot about it.
I admit that it's not the same as a shield-wall. It's a limited effect skill. Otherwise let's just have done and call the WL bubble a shield wall.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
I soloed from rank 0-10~ but as you were a late arrival to the server you are forgiven for not knowing that I only started raid leading because soloing was getting old.
I 'arrived' on the server about three months after SoA launched.
You did a bit of soloing when RKs were very strong in the early/mid MoM days. For a long time after no one saw you in the Moors' solo at all.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Its ok Beleg, one day you'l be right and you can be proud.
I take pride in knowing that anything I've achieved in the Ettenmoors is off my own back.
"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Rune-Keeper! A Rune-Keeper is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Tolkien's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face."
I admit that it's not the same as a shield-wall. It's a limited effect skill. Otherwise let's just have done and call the WL bubble a shield wall.
Shieldwall means redirecting damage from target to caster, duration or cooldown are irrelevant.
Bubble is not a shieldwall.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
I 'arrived' on the server about three months after SoA launched.
Arrived maybe but active no.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
You did a bit of soloing when RKs were very strong in the early/mid MoM days. For a long time after no one saw you in the Moors' solo at all.
Like I said, soloed for months then started leading some of the best pvp on the server. Raid v Raid with Naz or Rhyan was awsome for all involved.
Its funny how on a point where you were clearly just wrong, you go to such elaborate lengths to deny and distract.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
I take pride in knowing that anything I've achieved in the Ettenmoors is off my own back.
I take pride in having lead hundreds of different players in a fun and successful manner, having run player events with so many players inside tol the servers just stopped and everyone stood around for 30seconds doing nothing and ofc for truly being a Hero of the Ettenmoors.
Oh and still after 2 years owning other games I still know more about basic stuff here than bads.
Last edited by ArcaneMagei; Mar 06 2012 at 07:49 PM.
Shieldwall means redirecting damage from target to caster, duration or cooldown are irrelevant.
Now you're putting criteria to it, just like I was. And I consider the permanent nature of the Shield-wall to be fundamental to its purpose. It provides constant protection. Def skill is just 'now and again' protection.
Plus, if you actually read what I originally said, you would see that it was this lack of permanent protection creep side that would make you fearful. The Def mitigation skill doesn't alter that.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Arrived maybe but active no.
Active in the Moors? No, not until later on in SoA. What's your point?
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Like I said, soloed for months then started leading some of the best pvp on the server. Raid v Raid with Naz or Rhyan was awsome for all involved.
Raiding may have been fun but that's not what I was disputing. Its the fact that most of your renown, by far, has been achieved via raids/zergs.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Its funny how on a point where you were clearly just wrong, you go to such elaborate lengths to deny and distract.
I just go a bit deeper into explaining things, which you're clearly not used to.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
I take pride in having lead hundreds of different players in a fun and successful manner, having run player events with so many players inside tol the servers just stopped and everyone stood around for 30seconds doing nothing and ofc for truly being a Hero of the Ettenmoors.
Doesn't alter the fact that the majority of your ranks you've achieved in a raid/zerg situation, and not always in a good way. If I recall there were endless complaints made against you in the latter days of your 'outstanding raid-leading career', by some high-ranked notable players as well.
I take pride in the fact that I achieved the same level of infamy (as in reputation) as you - probably moreso during the height of MoM (cue the denial) - by myself without the need for raiding. It was this that then caused me to start posting in the MonsterPlay forums.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Oh and still after 2 years owning other games I still know more about basic stuff here than bads.
I've yet to see anything proving so.
All you've got on me - and you've milked it for everything it's worth and then some since - is that once upon a time I didn't realise poison cure got rid of the Spider hatchling de-buff.
"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Rune-Keeper! A Rune-Keeper is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Tolkien's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face."
Now you're putting criteria to it, just like I was. And I consider the permanent nature of the Shield-wall to be fundamental to its purpose. It provides constant protection. Def skill is just 'now and again' protection.
ROFL. Putting criteria to it... what that a "shield wall" by definition is one player transfering damage from target to himself, an ability that creeps do have.
Hell if you google "lotro defiler shieldwall" what do you get? a bunch of links to people talking about the skill. Hmmmm Derp
Way to miss the point.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
Plus, if you actually read what I originally said, you would see that it was this lack of permanent protection creep side that would make you fearful. The creep shieldwall* doesn't alter that.
*Corrected for accuracy.
You'l note that I didn't debate your absurd claim involving goats and seclusion, what you do in your own time I don't care. However I can at least see that you demonstarate your great knowledge of the game in your posts.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
Raiding may have been fun but that's not what I was disputing. Its the fact that most of your renown, by far, has been achieved via raids/zergs.
Lol beleg you are pathetic, you realy think that someone who plays solo the entire time on a easymore ranged dps achieves more than someone running player events, constant pvp groups and open raids? Well gonna have to disagree there. If you were a Champ maybe some respect but a hunter? Pewpewtastic, stealth, track, zzz easy.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
I just go a bit deeper into explaining things, which you're clearly not used to.
No you make incorrect statements then try to weasel your way out of the admission by attacking the other player verbaly while ignoring the main points as demonstrated by this thread.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
I take pride in the fact that I achieved the same level of infamy (as in reputation) as you - probably moreso during the height of MoM (cue the denial) - by myself without the need for raiding. It was this that then caused me to start posting in the MonsterPlay forums.
Rk's only available after MoM and I was highest rank in Europe when I quit. if you'd achieved that on your hunter you'd have been R15 given SoA release date.
Clearly you didn't learn this in the 2 years I was away (and its still important to you) but let me explain:
YOU GET MORE RENOWN FROM SOLOING AS A RANGED DPS THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME BECAUSE IT IS VERY EASY TO PLAY.
I was making 15k+ daily with peaks of over 20k soloing but do that for a month and it gets very boring.
Originally Posted by Beleg-Of-Doriath
All you've got on me - and you've milked it for everything it's worth and then some since - is that once upon a time I didn't realise poison cure got rid of the Spider hatchling de-buff.
Yes that was one of many times where you spoke first and thought later, defilers shieldwall being only the most recent.
ROFL. Putting criteria to it... what that a "shield wall" by definition is one player transfering damage from target to himself, an ability that creeps do have.
Hell if you google "lotro defiler shieldwall" what do you get? a bunch of links to people talking about the skill. Hmmmm Derp
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Either way it doesn't alter my original point that there is no skill creep side which gives another player permanent protection. Therefore you would be too fearful to stick at it.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Way to miss the point.
Well at least you admit it, good on you.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
You'l note that I couldn't debate your valid claim involving goats and seclusion...
*Corrected for accuracy.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
However I can at least see that you demonstarate your great knowledge of the game in your posts.
I thank you.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Lol beleg you are pathetic, you realy think that someone who plays solo the entire time on a easymore ranged dps achieves more than someone running player events, constant pvp groups and open raids?
Dear me, that really is a prime case of looking back with rose-tinted glasses. You're really painting a rosey picture of your raiding days, aren't you? It wasn't all that. You aren't called 'dinner time cane' for nothing.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
No you make incorrect statements then try to weasel your way out of the admission by attacking the other player verbaly while ignoring the main points as demonstrated by this thread.
It's quite simple:
1. You think the Def skill is sufficiently similar to the shield-wall to warrant calling it the same.
2. I don't because it has a limited duration and a cooldown.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Rk's only available after MoM and I was highest rank in Europe when I quit. if you'd achieved that on your hunter you'd have been R15 given SoA release date.
Most of your rank was achieved solely by raiding. Big deal.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Clearly you didn't learn this in the 2 years I was away (and its still important to you) but let me explain:
YOU GET MORE RENOWN FROM SOLOING AS A RANGED DPS THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME BECAUSE IT IS VERY EASY TO PLAY.
That is not the case and hasn't been the case for a long time, if ever. Perhaps when solo action was at its best and raid action at its worst it might have been possible to gain more using a ranged/tactical classes than raiding, but even then I doubt it.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
I was making 15k+ daily with peaks of over 20k soloing but do that for a month and it gets very boring.
You're comparing 10 hours+ solo with a few hours of raiding. Not a fair comparison. If the raid leader is any good he can gain more per hour than a random solo can.
"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Rune-Keeper! A Rune-Keeper is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Tolkien's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face."
1. You think the Def skill is sufficiently similar to the shield-wall to warrant calling it the same.
2. I don't because it has a limited duration and a cooldown.
Most of your rank was achieved solely by raiding. Big deal.
That is not the case and hasn't been the case for a long time, if ever. Perhaps when solo action was at its best and raid action at its worst it might have been possible to gain more using a ranged/tactical classes than raiding, but even then I doubt it.
You're comparing 10 hours+ solo with a few hours of raiding. Not a fair comparison. If the raid leader is any good he can gain more per hour than a random solo can.
Blah Blah Blah Blah yet more waffle.
1) It is commonly known as the DEFILERS SHIELDWALL, it has a SHIELDWALL TYPE EFFECT. Not a bubble not any of the other bull that you have spouted it is that simple. You forgot about it when you made your first pointless and insulting post and now have spent 2 pages verbally crying about things that happened 2 years ago. How old are you?
All of your rank was achieved by soloing on a Hunter. Big deal sitting at 40m in the lines of mindless pewpewing sheeple, probably the most easymode solo. Have you even got rank 15 yet?
Omfg you realy didn't learn this in the years I have been gone...? Damn I suppose some people never learn.
There is a LIMITING FACTOR with raiding called ACTION and there is DOWNTIME between fights.
If the raid leader is good, ahah good joke. Caneraids #1
Last edited by ArcaneMagei; Mar 08 2012 at 08:01 AM.
1) It is commonly known as the DEFILERS SHIELDWALL, it has a SHIELDWALL TYPE EFFECT.
It may be casually called the Defilers shield-wall by some because its proper name (I cba to look it up) isn't widely known.
Doesn't alter my original point that there is no creep side skill which gives permanent protection like the shield-wall. Hence you would feel insecure.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
All of your rank was achieved by soloing on a Hunter. Big deal sitting at 40m in the lines of mindless pewpewing sheeple, probably the most easymode solo.
All of my chars have achieved their rank solo, not just my hunter, and that likely won't change.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
Omfg you realy didn't learn this in the years I have been gone...? Damn I suppose some people never learn.
Because it isn't true.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
There is a LIMITING FACTOR with raiding called ACTION and there is DOWNTIME between fights.
Can you go slower so I can understand?
Of course there are 'downtimes', no one said it was one continuous fight. But you can have many fights in the space of an hour, each one capable of generating 200-400 renown, depending on how long it lasts. And in the days we are refering to there was sufficient players both sides to keep this going. These days we just have a bunch of switchers zerging an inferior collection of solo players on the other side. Proper raid vs raid used to be much more common.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
If the raid leader is good, ahah good joke.
Yeah, as opposed to a raid leader who, for example, might say 'ok dinner time, thx all' after they wiped once.
Last edited by Beleg-Of-Doriath; Mar 08 2012 at 08:11 AM.
"'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Rune-Keeper! A Rune-Keeper is come!'
Gimli stared with wide eyes. 'Tolkien's Bane!' he cried, and letting his axe fall he covered his face."
Shield-wall = permanent protection = clearly the point I was making = I wasn't wrong.
Show me a skill creep side which gives perma protection and I'll agree with you.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
However I am bored of arguing with you, your just as dense+obtuse as you have always been, your knowledge of the skills is still just as lacking and clearly you didnt learn anything about raid mechanics in the years I have been gone.
Problem is all you can do is keep repeating the statement: 'Aha Bellen thinks ranged cannot make more ren than raid aha.' As soon as numbers are brought into it you can't argue, you just ignore.
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
What stands out the most is how my creepside "enemies" have welcomed me back with a nice chat and talking of old times (and future games to play together) and the only player to be a negative little girl is you. Grow up.
Aye, goes to show how bad things have got in the Moors' these past couple of years for them to be so welcoming to 'dinner time cane'.
By the way I thought you said you hadn't come back cos your character didn't transfer properly? Or maybe you thought you'd just come back to the forums for an ego boost because other people in whatever other games you've been playing are calling you the things people here were during your latter days of LotRO?
Originally Posted by ArcaneMagei
If any mod wants to delete all the trash from this thread feel free.
Surely you don't want to go back to 0 posts? These 20 posts are your greatest LotRO-related achievment.
Last edited by Beleg-Of-Doriath; Mar 09 2012 at 06:29 PM.
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