I've been trying for months to try and purchase a deluxe house in either Falathlorn or Breeland homesteads on Brandywine and have not seen a single vacancy. I understand that when the neighborhoods fill up, a new one is supposed to be made. However, every single neighborhood in the Breeland has but 1 or 2 kinship houses and nothing else, so now individual players can't buy their houses. Is this going to be addressed soon?
I believe Human housing been this way for at least two years. At this point, I am of the opinion that nothing is going to be done. You have to buy a deluxe in one of the other racial areas, if there are any left.
The difficulty is that all the Human and Elf houses on Brandywine are in play. There are no more neighborhoods to be created. When the housing system launched, all the houses and neighborhoods were built into the game software. In order to reduce the daily operating costs, only a few of the neighborhoods were created.
There is always an upper limit on everything. The game runs on physical machines. There is only so much memory, CPU cycles, network bandwidth ... You can either put in hard limits - like what has been done here - which is prefered solution. Or you can put in soft limits, let it grow until the application rolls over and dies - never a good idea.
Years ago, many people may not have run into situation. They telephone companies ran into the situation where demand for telephone land lines in some areas out stripped the ability of the telephone company to provide service. You would move into a home. Call up Bell South or whatever at the time for a telephone connection. You get a waiting list number. Estimated wait time of six months.
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I've been trying for months to try and purchase a deluxe house in either Falathlorn or Breeland homesteads on Brandywine and have not seen a single vacancy. I understand that when the neighborhoods fill up, a new one is supposed to be made. However, every single neighborhood in the Breeland has but 1 or 2 kinship houses and nothing else, so now individual players can't buy their houses. Is this going to be addressed soon?
They Auto create another neighborhood until the max Hoods of 255has been used in a racial area.
Unfortunetly Turbine made a foolish mistake some time ago to never boot anyone from thier houses for non payment of upkeep hence the reason you will find most closed due to non payment. Evidently Turbine places more value on Non Playing non paying members who in many casses have been gone since the Migration due to failure to migrate or have been MIA for as much as 2 years or More.
There are Multiple threads asking Turbine to correct this Mistake and start Booting anyone that has failed to Migrate and or have not paid upkeep in 1-2 years.
Will Turbine ever listen Good Question....
I've been trying for months to try and purchase a deluxe house in either Falathlorn or Breeland homesteads on Brandywine and have not seen a single vacancy. I understand that when the neighborhoods fill up, a new one is supposed to be made. However, every single neighborhood in the Breeland has but 1 or 2 kinship houses and nothing else, so now individual players can't buy their houses. Is this going to be addressed soon?
Short answer: Nope. It's been like this for years, specially on brandy.
Long answer: Give them, time. I am sure they will come up with something like, designating you a constable so you can serve and evict non-paid residences of your choosing for a wad of tp.
All my devotion betrayed, I am no longer afraid
I was too blinded too see, How much you've stolen from me
I've read countless of topics and discussion about this very same problem, mostly in big servers like yours, an it seems that, for the foreseeable future, no action might be taken by Turbine; no action that we know of, at least.
I've read countless of topics and discussion about this very same problem, mostly in big servers like yours, an it seems that, for the foreseeable future, no action might be taken by Turbine; no action that we know of, at least.
You folks need to make more noise. There are not enough complaints per month to get Turbine's attention.
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In the past, the neighborhoods I had been in contained houses which had not paid upkeep for some time. Why doesn't Turbine just remove ownership of the house after say, 6 months without upkeep? It's not like items within the house would be lost anyways, they could simply be returned to the owner via mail in the same way that auctions are. I'm almost positive the whole problem could be solved by that simple rule. I mean, I'm a very busy person, between college and work, I still find time to check LOTRO every 2 weeks or so, but 6 months? If you're gone for 6 months at a time, either you don't like the game anymore, or aren't in a position to play. Either way, I feel as if logic dictates the house should be recycled.
In the past, the neighborhoods I had been in contained houses which had not paid upkeep for some time. Why doesn't Turbine just remove ownership of the house after say, 6 months without upkeep? It's not like items within the house would be lost anyways, they could simply be returned to the owner via mail in the same way that auctions are. I'm almost positive the whole problem could be solved by that simple rule. I mean, I'm a very busy person, between college and work, I still find time to check LOTRO every 2 weeks or so, but 6 months? If you're gone for 6 months at a time, either you don't like the game anymore, or aren't in a position to play. Either way, I feel as if logic dictates the house should be recycled.
IIRC, it has to do mostly with military personnel that, when on tours overseas, can't really log in to pay upkeep or something; Turbine went all stars-and-stripes on it and made the change to keep your house forever (or as close as you can get on games like this).
In the past, the neighborhoods I had been in contained houses which had not paid upkeep for some time. Why doesn't Turbine just remove ownership of the house after say, 6 months without upkeep?
You are describing something similar to the original implementation. When your maintenance was due. You didn't have silver on deposit. Bye Bye House. All your stuff went into escrow. After some more time. Your stuff went away.
Turbine got thousand of posts demanding that Turbine stop taking our houses. People would come back. The home and all the contents would be gone. Turbine apparently did not have the resources for a more robust housing taking system. Turbine took out the release code for personal housing.
Housing is a discontinued feature. All that gets done is NPC updates. Or changes to the fixed common areas. Nothing gets done on this issue or real enhancements.
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Housing is a discontinued feature. All that gets done is NPC updates. Or changes to the fixed common areas. Nothing gets done on this issue or real enhancements.
If only that was true....
Housing is not a discontinued feature the feature is still in game.
It is only unfairly no available to newer current paying customers.
This is something that most be corrected.
Either free up houses by BOOTING THE BUMS OUT!
or Actually DISCONTINUE the feature for ALL!
I've seen postings saying this before, however the deluxe next to my small house was open until last week when a friend snatched it up. He also stated he saw nothing open at the time I told him of it. It may just be there are open houses and the system for showing them is broken? I'd take a stroll through a few neighborhoods to make sure. Can't hurt.
Housing is NOT a discontinued feature. There are new housing decorations, which had to be designed, as recently as for the Treasure Hunt. What I suspect (and hope) is that housing will be expanded, such that new neighborhoods will be made in new regions as we travel on to Mordor. Whether or not that's the case, I agree that people who haven't logged in over a year need to have their house reinstated in the market, with all items transfered to escrow. It is truly disheartening to see so many locked homes that other people would have otherwise enjoyed through ownership. Housing adds another layer of entertainment for me, and I'd imagine for others. Heck, I even put my address in my sig for anyone who wants to go visit a guaranteed open house.
Housing is NOT a discontinued feature. There are new housing decorations, which had to be designed, as recently as for the Treasure Hunt. What I suspect (and hope) is that housing will be expanded, such that new neighborhoods will be made in new regions as we travel on to Mordor. Whether or not that's the case, I agree that people who haven't logged in over a year need to have their house reinstated in the market, with all items transfered to escrow. It is truly disheartening to see so many locked homes that other people would have otherwise enjoyed through ownership. Housing adds another layer of entertainment for me, and I'd imagine for others. Heck, I even put my address in my sig for anyone who wants to go visit a guaranteed open house.
Housing is not a discontinued feature the feature is still in game.
I work in software development what is it 30+ years now. A discontinued feature is a feature for which no work is done on. Software houses do not remove these features. It costs dollars to take the feature out. You might break something important in the process. There are always people that are happy with the feature as is. You leave the feature in the software.
I worked on cell phones. There are features that are 20 years old. Nobody has touched the code in 10 years. We leave the feature in for those folks that still use it and like it. We are never going to update the feature. Some of these features may not even be offerred by any cell phone provider. The only way to find out for sure is to take the feature out. Wait to see if anyone throws a hand grenade into the development area. It is rarely worth the effort to create opportunities for more thrown hande grenades.
There is always a small possibility a business case can be made for a pimp the retro feature. That is another reason for not ripping them out.
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Maybe I feel this way because I am a newbie to the game but...
Why can't Turbine take the severely past due houses. Put the contents in escrow and just remove the time limit on escrow? That way if a player does come back they haven't lost everything and in the mean time the house is free for re-occupancy.
I work in software development what is it 30+ years now. A discontinued feature is a feature for which no work is done on. Software houses do not remove these features. It costs dollars to take the feature out. You might break something important in the process. There are always people that are happy with the feature as is. You leave the feature in the software.
I worked on cell phones. There are features that are 20 years old. Nobody has touched the code in 10 years. We leave the feature in for those folks that still use it and like it. We are never going to update the feature. Some of these features may not even be offerred by any cell phone provider. The only way to find out for sure is to take the feature out. Wait to see if anyone throws a hand grenade into the development area. It is rarely worth the effort to create opportunities for more thrown hande grenades.
There is always a small possibility a business case can be made for a pimp the retro feature. That is another reason for not ripping them out.
Begin to think your a paid lackey for Turbine......
Spin it any way you want they offer hosing in game they have the means to fix it
so current members can get houses.
They created the mess with the Bleeding Heart liberalism and sitting on thier hands.
BOOT THE BUMS OUT......
It really is that simple......
It's true the change to not losing your house was done to accommodate those deployed oversees mostly and it was a good decision.
But now there needs to be a change to that policy, either add more so no one goes without or let the houses be released but the amount of time you can pay upkeep needs to be increased, like each box is a month instead of a week (for those who play on and off).
I still choose to believe that their inaction on these major housing issues is because they have been secretly working on a major overhaul of housing and will surprise us with it ...........soon. Stop shaking your head, I am entitled to my fantasies.
Maybe I feel this way because I am a newbie to the game but...
Why can't Turbine take the severely past due houses. Put the contents in escrow and just remove the time limit on escrow? That way if a player does come back they haven't lost everything and in the mean time the house is free for re-occupancy.
That is pretty much exactly what we are trying to get them to do.....
There are those that think they have the right to not pay not play and tie up resources
and still have everything they had when they left.
Welcome to The Me generation I want it now and I want it free and I want to keep
even though I may never come back again.
They could free up houses Mkae escrow Perm and give a free token to get a simillar house.
Seems that solves all Issues and would cost nothing as the code already exists in game.
It's true the change to not losing your house was done to accommodate those deployed oversees mostly and it was a good decision.
But now there needs to be a change to that policy, either add more so no one goes without or let the houses be released but the amount of time you can pay upkeep needs to be increased, like each box is a month instead of a week (for those who play on and off).
I still choose to believe that their inaction on these major housing issues is because they have been secretly working on a major overhaul of housing and will surprise us with it ...........soon. Stop shaking your head, I am entitled to my fantasies.
Actually I am afraid your right they are working on a major revamp......
They are going to move Housing to the store.....
Yes we know it was free before.....
But your all clamering for it so you must be willing to pay......
Years ago, many people may not have run into situation. They telephone companies ran into the situation where demand for telephone land lines in some areas out stripped the ability of the telephone company to provide service. You would move into a home. Call up Bell South or whatever at the time for a telephone connection. You get a waiting list number. Estimated wait time of six months.
That's the situation I am right now with high speed broadband. All we have is slow speed DSL. When I get off my taxi in Bree I have to wait for all the npcs and players to appear, so for a few seconds I only see a vacant Bree. *sigh*
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Civ II rules after all these years......
Was thinking about it and went and found a bunch of recent threads about housing.....
Not all just about the Lack of Houses Many with some good Ideas how to Improve Housing......
Was thinking If all of us in various threads Keep Commenting Supporting Each Others Threads
keep them on the first Page...Make it clear to Turbime and The Powers that be that there is much
Interest and Support For a better Housing system........................ .....
Maybe Just Maybe they will give us some answers on the General direction and thoughts behind
Housing and what they feel they can do to Improve the Situation......
Come One Come All Show Your Support Lets Get Turbines ATTENTION.
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