My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
I opened mine and got 100 slug meat and 50 HH seeds....
hell i'd have LOVED rank 15 food... cant get that anywhere else atm
I got a r15 brand on my weaver out of a lockbox today... I almost vendored it because I can't use it. If Turbine intends for creeps who are <r15 to be able to use the r15 brand from the lockbox though, I will save that sucker for the fix.
I got a r15 brand on my weaver out of a lockbox today... I almost vendored it because I can't use it. If Turbine intends for creeps who are <r15 to be able to use the r15 brand from the lockbox though, I will save that sucker for the fix.
I would hold onto it.
It's supposedly one of the more rare drops, and it's not the same rank 15 brand as the one you barter for (different name, different icon). I highly doubt the rank requirement is intentional, because if they had wanted the rank requirement they wouldn't have created an entire new item. They would have just put the one you barter for in the lootboxes.
Submit a bug on it as well.
"Spiders CC is unbearable... it's just as bad as loremasters" ~ Brodster
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
We've had a guy 9 boxing reavers on Gladden farming various places. He killed over 1000 dwarves yesterday and nada. And farmed HH and the Delving for a total of 2k dull and got 45k worth of coin/vendor stuff from HH, and still nothing. I think the drop rates just extremely low, even though it's been "upped".
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
there is no way u can expect a 5 min cooldown brand without rank requirement just because it comes out of lockboxes, where is the freep version? no where.
Kriptic
gw2:witchking.4380
WeaponX-I'm the best there is at what I do, but what I do isn't very nice.
there is no way u can expect a 5 min cooldown brand without rank requirement just because it comes out of lockboxes, where is the freep version? no where.
Where is Kriptic in PVP?
no where
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
9 boxing reavers??? :S boxers are getting to be like the twelve days of Christmas...
9 boxing reavers
8 wild minstrels
7 smelly wargs
6 bungling burglars
5 friggin BAaaaaaaaasssssss!
:S ok ill stop. Still haven't seen one of those loot boxes.
And 1 solo SOB caught the bloody damned zerg......
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
second! not sure what to get now though BA, defiler or reaver skin :/
Reaver Fire Orc skin > All
Gratz
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
there is no way u can expect a 5 min cooldown brand without rank requirement just because it comes out of lockboxes, where is the freep version? no where.
One might say the same thing about oh so many things freep side:
Actuall DPS with high moral
Safe fall
Sop:r (which the side with vastly better CC clearly needs, right?)
ISB
Aim
Propper AOE damage from more than one class. Raid leaders must love; 4-5 crits (not dev crits) on Ents with champs raging blades while RK's bring in the snow.
In combat speed buffs on 3 classes, guardians charge right on through broken legs too
Feign death
Skills that reset big CD (CD's that aren' really all that big any more)
Pledge and warrior's heart, deep breath, pledge and worriors heart
Self bubbles
Tactical damage classes and not just mini's and RK's I personally love;
3 stacks of 55 second burning embers from the same LM
Skills that remove DOT's from self and team mates
AOE, out of combat, no CD, 5 person rezs
Mounts ----> so many terrain exploits
Improved versions of skils that don't require a trait slot, same for slotting a damage type
Should I go on?
Kriptic you of all people should know how good freeps have it. I mean surely your own kin mates have told you how 3 of them have no problem dealing with ~12 creeps, right next to a creep rez, getting at least 20 kills before they finally wipe.
In light of all this can you seriously think that saying "freeps don't have it, therefore it's unfair" is a valid arguement?
What am I saying, of course you do. I mean you did the same thing with blight "the best skill in the game" and looked like a fool then too.
One might say the same thing about oh so many things freep side:
Actuall DPS with high moral
Safe fall
Sop:r (which the side with vastly better CC clearly needs, right?)
ISB
Aim
Propper AOE damage from more than one class. Raid leaders must love; 4-5 crits (not dev crits) on Ents with champs raging blades while RK's bring in the snow.
In combat speed buffs on 3 classes, guardians charge right on through broken legs too
Feign death
Skills that reset big CD (CD's that aren' really all that big any more)
Pledge and warrior's heart, deep breath, pledge and worriors heart
Self bubbles
Tactical damage classes and not just mini's and RK's I personally love;
3 stacks of 55 second burning embers from the same LM
Skills that remove DOT's from self and team mates
AOE, out of combat, no CD, 5 person rezs
Mounts ----> so many terrain exploits
Improved versions of skils that don't require a trait slot, same for slotting a damage type
Should I go on?
Kriptic you of all people should know how good freeps have it. I mean surely your own kin mates have told you how 3 of them have no problem dealing with ~12 creeps, right next to a creep rez, getting at least 20 kills before they finally wipe.
In light of all this can you seriously think that saying "freeps don't have it, therefore it's unfair" is a valid arguement?
What am I saying, of course you do. I mean you did the same thing with blight "the best skill in the game" and looked like a fool then too.
Burtnakh scored a devastating blow on Kriptic for 10,830 points of Logical damage.
Burtnakh defeated Kriptic.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
One might say the same thing about oh so many things freep side:
Actuall DPS with high moral
Safe fall
Sop:r (which the side with vastly better CC clearly needs, right?)
ISB
Aim
Propper AOE damage from more than one class. Raid leaders must love; 4-5 crits (not dev crits) on Ents with champs raging blades while RK's bring in the snow.
In combat speed buffs on 3 classes, guardians charge right on through broken legs too
Feign death
Skills that reset big CD (CD's that aren' really all that big any more)
Pledge and warrior's heart, deep breath, pledge and worriors heart
Self bubbles
Tactical damage classes and not just mini's and RK's I personally love;
3 stacks of 55 second burning embers from the same LM
Skills that remove DOT's from self and team mates
AOE, out of combat, no CD, 5 person rezs
Mounts ----> so many terrain exploits
Improved versions of skils that don't require a trait slot, same for slotting a damage type
Should I go on?
Kriptic you of all people should know how good freeps have it. I mean surely your own kin mates have told you how 3 of them have no problem dealing with ~12 creeps, right next to a creep rez, getting at least 20 kills before they finally wipe.
In light of all this can you seriously think that saying "freeps don't have it, therefore it's unfair" is a valid arguement?
What am I saying, of course you do. I mean you did the same thing with blight "the best skill in the game" and looked like a fool then too.
So you think getting rank 15 equivalent brand on a non rank 15 toon is fair? bravo well done.
Kriptic
gw2:witchking.4380
WeaponX-I'm the best there is at what I do, but what I do isn't very nice.
One might say the same thing about oh so many things freep side:
Actuall DPS with high moral
Safe fall
Sop:r (which the side with vastly better CC clearly needs, right?)
ISB
Aim
Propper AOE damage from more than one class. Raid leaders must love; 4-5 crits (not dev crits) on Ents with champs raging blades while RK's bring in the snow.
In combat speed buffs on 3 classes, guardians charge right on through broken legs too
Feign death
Skills that reset big CD (CD's that aren' really all that big any more)
Pledge and warrior's heart, deep breath, pledge and worriors heart
Self bubbles
Tactical damage classes and not just mini's and RK's I personally love;
3 stacks of 55 second burning embers from the same LM
Skills that remove DOT's from self and team mates
AOE, out of combat, no CD, 5 person rezs
Mounts ----> so many terrain exploits
Improved versions of skils that don't require a trait slot, same for slotting a damage type
Should I go on?
o.
Sure, go on. Considering there's a mirror for like 75% of your claimed god-skills, and add the delving pot exploit in there too (since we all know creeps would never exploit)
posting on a banned account. GET AT ME JESUS, WHAT NOW?!
So you think getting rank 15 equivalent brand on a non rank 15 toon is fair? bravo well done.
You're clearly thinking that; rank should count for creep skills, it doesn’t count for freep skills.
Also not every creep will be rocking one of these brands.... There is two so far on E but I'm sure more will drop.
Besides it's not like freeps lack the DPS, skills and "I win" buttons to kill a creep, even with this brand up.
Finally freeps do have access to this, crumbling brands from the store.
@Isindar 75% of the skills I mentioned have a creep counterpart:
Actual DPS with high moral... Perhaps a BA. I guess I should have said survivability and high DPS.
case in point:
That's 18.8K, un buffed and I bet he out DPS's a Reaver and BA all day long.
Safe fall...No
Sop:r (which the side with vastly better CC clearly needs, right?).... Purge maybe but you need to be grouped with the WL and it certainly can't be passed out like candy before combat starts.
ISB....No
Aim...No
If you wanted to call the above skills "guaranteed crit skills" then WL's have one of them, call to shadow, but it's bugged and hard to get off. WL =/= a DPS class so it hardly matters.
Proper AOE damage from more than one class. Raid leaders must love; 4-5 crits (not dev crits) on Ents with champs raging blades while RK's bring in the snow....No
In combat speed buffs on 3 classes, guardians charge right on through broken legs too.....What wargs, on a 5 min CD? Besides, notice I said 3 classes and technically Cappies provide it to their whole group.
Feign death...No
Skills that reset big CD (CD's that aren’t really all that big any more)....Reaver against the odds? Ok yes but it would help if the skills it resets actually made a difference to damage or survivability. Creeps notice when freeps blow CD's, ATM a reaver can blow its whole stack and any freep melee counterpart should still never lose.
Pledge and warrior's heart, deep breath, pledge and warriors heart....No
Self bubbles....No
Tactical damage classes and not just mini's and RK's I personally love;
3 stacks of 55 second burning embers from the same LM....No, I mean tactical damage that can't be B/P/E'ed , unless you think the WL is a DPS class?
Skills that remove DOT's from self and team mates....No
AOE, out of combat, no CD, 5 person rezs...No
Mounts ----> so many terrain exploits....No
Improved versions of skills that don't require a trait slot, same for slotting a damage type....No
75%? More like 50%, at a stretch.
TL;DR I only need one example to make my point... Saying that 'freeps don't have it therefore creeps can't have it" is a dumb arguement.
On the bright side +1 to your second accounts post count.
Originally Posted by zaskoda
add the delving pot exploit in there too (since we all know creeps would never exploit)
I also have no idea what you're on about here....
However since we are going with hyperbole, I would say:
Of all the exploits I know of, 90% are freep exploits. Factering in that everyone knows where the various terrain exploits are + what the "chicken flap" and "burg counter defense" exploits are. Then consider that no creep I know has heard of the "delving pot exploit" I might say...
Freeps are far more likely to have an exploit to use and therefore are more likely to be found exploiting.
Store bought brands are ridiculously OP (mainly due to the slow immunity), rank 15 brands working on non-rank 15's just shouldn't be available.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. <Generally OP
Store bought brands are ridiculously OP (mainly due to the slow immunity), rank 15 brands working on non-rank 15's just shouldn't be available.
Whats the difference? Store bought brands are used frequently by lots of people, a rank 15 brand from a lockbox is going to be extremely rare (remember people will stop grinding like they are currently quite soon). At least its a positive reward from these boxes compared to the vendor trash that more often drops.
Most people ask for CCless pvp, a wider proportion of available brands leads to a situation where this can be much closer to reality.
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So you think getting rank 15 equivalent brand on a non rank 15 toon is fair? bravo well done.
So you think In Harms Way + Last Stand is fair? Bravo, well done.
Originally Posted by notacavetroll
Store bought brands are ridiculously OP (mainly due to the slow immunity), rank 15 brands working on non-rank 15's just shouldn't be available.
Being perma-branded still wouldn't even save anyone from surviving Freep focus-fire. What's wrong with creeps finally getting something that isn't laughable?
@Isindar 75% of the skills I mentioned have a creep counterpart:
Actual DPS with high moral... Perhaps a BA. I guess I should have said survivability and high DPS.
That...isn't a skill, and a vit stacked guardian is hardly going to out-dps a reaver or BA.
Safe fall...No
Sop:r (which the side with vastly better CC clearly needs, right?).... Purge maybe but you need to be grouped with the WL and it certainly can't be passed out like candy before combat starts. [/quote]
Considering short duration fights, (ie the majority) purge is better.
ISB....No
Aim...No
If you wanted to call the above skills "guaranteed crit skills" then WL's have one of them, call to shadow, but it's bugged and hard to get off. WL =/= a DPS class so it hardly matters.
Self-targeting is hard to do?
Proper AOE damage from more than one class. Raid leaders must love; 4-5 crits (not dev crits) on Ents with champs raging blades while RK's bring in the snow....No
Again, not a skill....you're arguing concepts.
In combat speed buffs on 3 classes, guardians charge right on through broken legs too.....What wargs, on a 5 min CD? Besides, notice I said 3 classes and technically Cappies provide it to their whole group.
DR is an in combat speed buff, and both spiders and wargs are
(if traited sensibly) at 110% in combat speed, something freeps only have access to with a food introduced 4 years later.
Feign death...No
Traited burrow > feign
Skills that reset big CD (CD's that aren’t really all that big any more)....Reaver against the odds? Ok yes but it would help if the skills it resets actually made a difference to damage or survivability. Creeps notice when freeps blow CD's, ATM a reaver can blow its whole stack and any freep melee counterpart should still never lose.
Against the odds most definitely has gotten me alot of kills, having a second DS and more importantly ravage makes all the difference in the world.#
Pledge and warrior's heart, deep breath, pledge and warriors heart....No
Good thing I said 75%, not 100. However Uruk heal is better than WH, on a shorter cd.
Self bubbles....No
Shadow howler.
Tactical damage classes and not just mini's and RK's I personally love;
3 stacks of 55 second burning embers from the same LM....No, I mean tactical damage that can't be B/P/E'ed , unless you think the WL is a DPS class?
WL is a tank class, check out the roles yourself. 3 stacks of blight are pretty strong, though not as lengthy.
Skills that remove DOT's from self and team mates....No
Potions? Either way majority of creep dots aren't curable, just the easy to apply ranged dots and for some reason enhanced black speech.
AOE, out of combat, no CD, 5 person rezs...No
Don't even understand this one, it's clearly inferior to an in combat rez?
Mounts ----> so many terrain exploits....No
Maps and perma OOC sprint are a bit better, tad late on that QQ train.
Improved versions of skills that don't require a trait slot, same for slotting a damage type....No
Antiquated, nothing to do with balance or similarities...
[QUOTE]
TL;DR I only need one example to make my point... Saying that 'freeps don't have it therefore creeps can't have it" is a dumb arguement.[QUOTE]
Let's change kriptics wording "r0 players having access to something (one of the only perks of rank freepside.....actually the only good one) r15 players get as a reward is stupid. Better now?
I also have no idea what you're on about here....
Let's just summarize it under "it drastically effects gameplay" and the only players I've seen exploit it are wargs, 4-5 I know so far.
However since we are going with hyperbole, I would say:
Of all the exploits I know of, 90% are freep exploits. Factering in that everyone knows where the various terrain exploits are + what the #"chicken flap" and "burg counter defense" exploits are. Then consider that no creep I know has heard of the "delving pot exploit" I might say...
Freeps are far more likely to have an exploit to use and therefore are more likely to be found exploiting.
The majority of those are a side effect of mount speed, and have been "fixed" due to high volume of tears before creeps received their speed buff. All of which had little effect at all on actual pvp, as the players could still easily be killed.
Off the top of my head.....wargs exploiting in to rez circles and GV, spiders exploiting stairs (oh hello "respected raid leader of Elendilmir") and various other locations to avoid death, stun turning players butthurt about burglars, etc etc. only mutually exclusive exploit to creepside would be the spider fiasco, but you get the idea. I don't understand why so many people get sore over people using terrain advantages, do they just stand there and let the player range them to death to prove a point?
Iirc arent all angles of those pillars in BA kill-range?
posting on a banned account. GET AT ME JESUS, WHAT NOW?!
And I'm way too lazy to fix those broken quotes on a phone so deal with it
Being perma-branded still wouldn't even save anyone from surviving Freep focus-fire. What's wrong with creeps finally getting something that isn't laughable?
Hey, remember that time using "surviving focus fire" was a good point in defence of anything? Brand is balanced because target isn't invincible.
Uhhhh
Last edited by zaskoda; Feb 16 2012 at 11:02 PM.
posting on a banned account. GET AT ME JESUS, WHAT NOW?!
Not agreeing or disagreeing with the rest of the post. Just posting my personal experience with that exact Guardian.
Ok well I've never found him away from the raid or NPC's but it's worth asking Swash.
Given the chance to 1v1 yourself, would you back your Guard or your Reaver?
@ Isinder.
Please don't compare warg bubbles to Champ and mini bubbles. Even if they could choose when to pop them, they are a far inferior substitute.
Blight can easily be avoided or cured unlike freep tactical Damage and it isn’t just one skill. How many huge damage tactical skills do freeps have?...Don't worry I'm not making another list.
Also freep AOE superiority is not a concept that sits well with creeps, esp given the freep AOE skills I listed (there are many others...but enough lists from me already)
Anyway I believe that the rank 15 equivalent brand being available to creeps of all rank is in fact here and intended. When the rank requirement is removed, I still don't see any freep having problems with low ranked creeps, even with brought skills and even if they were lucky enough to pick up this rare drop.
I couldn't care less what high ranked freeps get or don't get, considering that as they rank up they have access to more "shiny" skills and have enjoyed the lion’s share of balance skewed towards them in this game’s history.
Finaly what I have noticed is that the majority of the people we see popping the crumbling brands like candy (both sides) are high ranked players who are perhaps low on skill but not on time or money? Or perhaps they think they are too important to die to "lesser players"? I don't know.
Anyway my point is, all that reaching rank 15 will do is save them $.
Ok well I've never found him away from the raid or NPC's but it's worth asking Swash.
Given the chance to 1v1 yourself, would you back your Guard or your Reaver?
If I assume my Guard has good gear and a second age, it'd be pretty even, I think. I'd back my Reaver simply because of experience. They're a pretty good match-up at the moment. Give my Guard a First Age and I'd probably flip.
Here's the big one though. If I'm allowed my cooldowns, there would be no chance for my Reaver. With 2x Pledge, 2x Fortitude, Charge, and Manheal, it'd be pathetic.
(18k Guard used all that except Manheal, being a Hobbit, and I lived with half morale. l0lo0l0ol0l)
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