From reading the forums, it appears that the reactions are generally neutral to positive on the mitigation "fix". I am wondering how the fighting seems the same or different.
Creeps probably won't see any difference until freeps stop coming out with pocket healers and groups stop coming out heal stacked. I sit back and watch once respected freeps get laughed at for coming out with pocket healers and groups coming out with 3 minis and 2 cappies. It's funny really. So many "i don't wanna die" folks out now, the Riddermark Moors is a joke. Imma keep coming out and having fun (gettin my kills). I WILL catch you without your healer......I promise.
I have a healing minstrel friend with me most of the time I'm out but that doesn't mean I don't want to die. Most of the time Glam and I charge into a group we know we will die but I'm not afraid to charge in and get as many kills as I can. If you want to talk about "I don't want to die" players, look at Safetydance, Sah, Shutz, and Arrowndface. They hide in TA all day and run at the slightest hint of damage, until freeps have the ON buff and then they come out and faceroll zerg with the rest of the creeps. And I don't think it a bad or dishonorable thing to have a strong healing group with a few good dps classes to blow things up. Its smart. Running is when things get sad, cuz everyone runs nowadays in the moors, everyone (cept me of course :P).
It is foolish to complain about freep healers when there are so many wargs out now in RM. Do you think fighting a healing stacked group is any more terrible than fighting 10 wargs that knockdown multiple targets at once and melt anything that isn't a heavy, then hips/sprint away instantly?
What the joke in RM pvp should be is the overwhelming creep numbers plus warg packs. Seriously. Usually there are more wargs than freeps plus the rest of the creeps. Of course I'm QQing right now but it can't be that fun or efficient over on creepside to zerg a handful of freeps with 40+ creeps till we leave or log. If the creeps really get that much stronger in U6 and freeps are still always outnumbered, pvp here could completely die. I do not want to see that happen.
Second Marshal Carli
I'm Not Gold Taggin, I'm Carli Swaggin
No Glammie and Carli...you in no way are the butt of my joke. You are one of the few duo's that will charge into the creeps no matter how many are out. I have watched you push out into 12 creeps and NPCs to get a kill or two before dying. You guys have my respect, thats for sure. I am speaking of those that even though they have pocket healers, will turtle and hide. "You know who you are"...and also the freeps that roll with 3 minis and 2 cappies. You also know who you are. I fully expect a squishie target like Carli to have some sort of backup (even though you hit like a truck). I think it would be stupid of you not to come out without a healer. But for a cappie to come out with two minis is absurd and screams "i don't wanna die". So in any case, carry on maggots, and keep pushing the creeps Carli/Glammie. It's expected.
P.S. I have not been a part of a warg pack in weeks. Stop assuming. It makes you look foolish.
Last edited by Morbidi-Lost; Feb 13 2012 at 10:48 PM.
Glammie, I haven't grouped with ANYONE since rank 6. I am trying to better my skills by being alone. And there are ALWAYS a lot of wargs on Ridder. I don't see that changing anytime soon. I know it sucks having a numerous amount of a stealthed class around, but you can always assume now that I'm definitely NOT in group (unless you see an arachnid named Sebolivar), so warg packs, until update 6 will not be an option for me. But as soon as U6 hits, its warg packs FTW!
Glammie, I haven't grouped with ANYONE since rank 6. I am trying to better my skills by being alone. And there are ALWAYS a lot of wargs on Ridder. I don't see that changing anytime soon. I know it sucks having a numerous amount of a stealthed class around, but you can always assume now that I'm definitely NOT in group (unless you see an arachnid named Sebolivar), so warg packs, until update 6 will not be an option for me. But as soon as U6 hits, its warg packs FTW!
lol you are one funny guy...first you almost exclusively ranked by joining adinos zerg raids and outnumbering you opponents almost every day...then you resort to warg packs 24/7 and killing solos...and now you are complaining because you cant kill a healer or 2 in a group...
perhaps if you havent resorted to these things...you would learn by now how to fight groups with healers...i know its a step up between zerging a smaller force like you are use too...but im sure one of these days you will know how to deal with this stuff...
lol you are one funny guy...first you almost exclusively ranked by joining adinos zerg raids and outnumbering you opponents almost every day...then you resort to warg packs 24/7 and killing solos...and now you are complaining because you cant kill a healer or 2 in a group...
perhaps if you havent resorted to these things...you would learn by now how to fight groups with healers...i know its a step up between zerging a smaller force like you are use too...but im sure one of these days you will know how to deal with this stuff...
Shut up Alsander. I swear, you make comments and no matter how hard you try, you can't beat ANYONE without greybarring them to death. No doubt you're a great player, but really dude, speak to someone who cares. Because I don't. And keep claiming I roll in packs...I luv it. As long as I'm hated, I'm in your head. Mission accomplished. AND I don't play my freep in Moors anymore. I got my champ from rank 9 to 11 solo (as Adino had quit by then) and yes, I loved grouping with Adino. As a matter of fact, I got rank 10 with Lothran. Ask him and Amazing (whom I have mounds of respect for). Keep playing your OP freep. It's all good. I bet since Mits were somewhat fixed, I expect to see a lot of your kin out here on creeps. Mark my words.......it will happen.
lol morbidi, not to be a stick in the mud. your my friend, we go way back. but as I got done reading this, I was zergged by you, on your easy moding Orthanc raid geared RK with pocket healers, and you chased me all the way from stab to TA and killed me...8v1. I dont care really, but its funny how you can QQ the easy moding freeps, then I see you on your freep doing just that.
For starters Morbidi we know what kind of a player you are already. Popping every cooldown you have and still almost lose against Eliadon on a r6 reaver ( only bought skill was bladetoss ). And little over half of CoM has been creeping regularly for the past 2 months. You are always associated with the warg pack becuase it is usually half of your tribemates and that you always seem to be in the same general vacinity. If it is either near the main action or off at the rez, you will normally be seen with them. As there is nothing wrong with a warg pack but don't be so silly to think that a warg pack would be able to wipe a competent freep group. Idk if you or half of this server realizes that the creeps strength comes from being in mixed groups with a proper balance of the class make up.
& we have told you and your fellow kinmates/tribemates that if you continue to roll out a warg pack to kill soloers or people returning from the rez CoM will group up to make sure the pack is destroyed and deny as many kills as possible.
&& back on topic, nobody noticed any difference because nobody traited the MITIGATION CORRUPTIONS. Try out MFD2 + MFP2 with 4 mitigation corruptions( or you could do 2/2 for a more balanced build - but melee + ranged seems to me of a problem then the tactical classes - atleast imo )
As you write this post Thunder, I just went ballistic because people in my group were healing. You got it all wrong buddy. They wipe us, then we wipe them. Keeps the fun it it. You know me brutha. I'm all about fairness. To each his own...lol. Im gunna kill you tonight if it kills me. bhahahahahahah
Vicium scored a devastating hit with Coda of Fury on Tornsoul for 4,903 Light damage to Morale.
WTB a fix on our crit defense traits for once
That is a first age + 5 piece ToO dps set. And I feel safe to assume there was a To Arms involved. Doubt there is another mini on this server who could come close to hitting you for that.
I just wanna have fun. And If I can stop the OPness, I will. Lets fight. Thats alL I want. Keeep game fair. Wipe us .....I dont care. Dying i nothing to me
Can't we all just get along and ezmode in our own unique ways?: warg packs (It still counts even if you're not grouped), pocket healers (I'm in the market for one myself), Burglers (/looks @ Alsander, who owes me for half the renown he's earned in the last few days), and Burr (who is still rocking the Moria LM set /represent the good ol' days). - Jabberwock
Can't we all just get along and ezmode in our own unique ways?: warg packs (It still counts even if you're not grouped), pocket healers (I'm in the market for one myself), Burglers (/looks @ Alsander, who owes me for half the renown he's earned in the last few days), and Burr (who is still rocking the Moria LM set /represent the good ol' days). - Jabberwock
P.S. Frostybabe <3
I think I know this captain you use to run with ^.^
&& back on topic, nobody noticed any difference because nobody traited the MITIGATION CORRUPTIONS. Try out MFD2 + MFP2 with 4 mitigation corruptions( or you could do 2/2 for a more balanced build - but melee + ranged seems to me of a problem then the tactical classes - atleast imo )
I just wanna ask if you creep, and what the class/name is. I don't want you to take this as if I'm attacking you, this is a real question. I see you out there and presumably you're a good player since you roll with CoM. You mentioned CoM has been creeping, and there is no doubt in my mind about it.
I've traited morale with mitigation corruptions/crit mitigation corruptions and my attacks are so feeble they are laughable. Please tell me how I can hit like a burg or champ and have their survivability whilst morale traited. I must know this secret from you.
Shut up Alsander. I swear, you make comments and no matter how hard you try, you can't beat ANYONE without greybarring them to death. No doubt you're a great player, but really dude, speak to someone who cares. Because I don't. And keep claiming I roll in packs...I luv it. As long as I'm hated, I'm in your head. Mission accomplished. AND I don't play my freep in Moors anymore. I got my champ from rank 9 to 11 solo (as Adino had quit by then) and yes, I loved grouping with Adino. As a matter of fact, I got rank 10 with Lothran. Ask him and Amazing (whom I have mounds of respect for). Keep playing your OP freep. It's all good. I bet since Mits were somewhat fixed, I expect to see a lot of your kin out here on creeps. Mark my words.......it will happen.
It seems like you do care as you are taking so much offense from my statement...i beat plenty of ppl with and without stuns...them having brands or no brands...them popping or not popping cds...i dont get your point there...
I know how to do what i do not because i join raids 24/7 or wargpacks 24/7...because I play in a way where i dont always have the advantage...until you learn how to do that yourself...you will find it really hard to take out groups even with one healer unless you have overwhelming numbers...you should learn from that
from the sounds of it...you are just tring to get more ppl to play creepside so that you could happily zerg on that side as you did on this side with adino...yep seems like nothing has changed with you at all...
and btw...theres a difference between soloing and "soloing"...im sure you know which one you have done
Shut up Alsander. I swear, you make comments and no matter how hard you try, you can't beat ANYONE without greybarring them to death. No doubt you're a great player, but really dude, speak to someone who cares. Because I don't. And keep claiming I roll in packs...I luv it. As long as I'm hated, I'm in your head. Mission accomplished. AND I don't play my freep in Moors anymore. I got my champ from rank 9 to 11 solo (as Adino had quit by then) and yes, I loved grouping with Adino. As a matter of fact, I got rank 10 with Lothran. Ask him and Amazing (whom I have mounds of respect for). Keep playing your OP freep. It's all good. I bet since Mits were somewhat fixed, I expect to see a lot of your kin out here on creeps. Mark my words.......it will happen.
I think it's funny that on every server I've ever done PvMP on, people are saying their server sucks and has bad PvMP, people have no respect or class, etc. If you don't like it, don't come out. Suck it up buttercup or move along.
YOU KILLED MY BABY JABBERWOCKEE!
Glam you came on to the scene after I bailed for Star Wars, but I wanted to say that if I come back to this game I think we'll get along swell.
I have watched you push out into 12 creeps and NPCs to get a kill or two before dying. You guys have my respect, thats for sure..
Is this sarcasm?
I pray for the day where I and another lonely person can push into a half a freep raid, and get a kill. Since when should respect be given for #### that's easy as spamming 1,2,3,4,5 on your keyboard.
I think it's funny that on every server I've ever done PvMP on, people are saying their server sucks and has bad PvMP, people have no respect or class, etc. If you don't like it, don't come out. Suck it up buttercup or move along.
YOU KILLED MY BABY JABBERWOCKEE!
first of all i play on 3 different servers where i have ranked WLs and i know how it is on other servers besides this one. second of all - I've played on riddermark since the highest ranked creep here was r6 and I've seen a lot of "eras" of this server so you really have no authority to tell me what to do if i don't like it.
You can continue being a baby and having pocket guards shield walling you cause i love that 2 for one deal.
I pray for the day where I and another lonely person can push into a half a freep raid, and get a kill. Since when should respect be given for #### that's easy as spamming 1,2,3,4,5 on your keyboard.
you know cletus - i like you more and more every day =)
I didn't know I could Shield Wall.... man i must be an awful player. Either that or Glam is cheating on me with a guardian.
And yeah it might not be that difficult to run into a group of creeps and get a couple kills and then die (usually) but would you rather have us duo zerg a big group or sit with the rest of the freeps in npcs or wait and zerg with the main freep force? I'd much rather being doing our duo stuff away from the freeps. Its more fun and sometimes it becomes quite the challenge when more creeps are called in when we find a small group to fight and it lasts a good 5-10m.
Second Marshal Carli
I'm Not Gold Taggin, I'm Carli Swaggin
Well, if it's so awful here, maybe you should spend a little more time on those other servers of yours, sunshine. And I've been in a grp shield walled once ever (Varah, /hugs, you're awesome) and it was fun! First time I've ever been protected in the 'Moors, definitely a new fun experience but that was when I just transferred. Been running with Carli for a bit now. Stop being grumpy. Not sure why you hate me so bad but I will return it with hugs.
You guys are so silly. I love you all 'cause even trolls need love too! Please excuse me while I go warm up my bottle-- I mean coffee.
i do spend more time on other servers. and i don't hate you - you are just another freep to kill
Well, if it's so awful here, maybe you should spend a little more time on those other servers of yours, sunshine. And I've been in a grp shield walled once ever (Varah, /hugs, you're awesome) and it was fun! First time I've ever been protected in the 'Moors, definitely a new fun experience but that was when I just transferred. Been running with Carli for a bit now. Stop being grumpy. Not sure why you hate me so bad but I will return it with hugs.
You guys are so silly. I love you all 'cause even trolls need love too! Please excuse me while I go warm up my bottle-- I mean coffee.
why dont you try to get above 200 kb's and then talk about the moors.
rk+mini is prolly one of the most ezmode set ups there is.
(btw morbidi you cant yell at al for having a burg as his warg is a higher rank than yours.)
I believe what my esteemed colleagues are trying to impart here is take a step on the wild side.
When the need to deny infamy becomes greater than the need to gain reknown...(when you would rather not die than to get a kill), then the moors is a sad state indeed. Props to the few freeps who fight the fight. Meh, people give Proton #### for having speedy boots, but I will say this...these past few days, he is the first one in, last one out. My WL is going out of his way to find him now, cause it is a battle to the death. Nasty business this pvp stuff is, best to separate emotions from business. Get busy living, or get busy dying. Your dam right.
And kite master sprint happy bubble popping freeps, you mad? Come at me bro
why dont you try to get above 200 kb's and then talk about the moors.
rk+mini is prolly one of the most ezmode set ups there is.
Im about to hit 12,000 kbs so why don't you talk to me about the moors? KBs for a devoted healing player doesn't mean anything. She is rank 8, which is enough time spent in the moors to know whats going on. And add in the fact that for the longest time she healed exclusively out of group in the moors she has been around much, much longer than a normal r8. She also has a r8 defiler which did the same thing.
So what is your rank? How much time have you spent in the moors to make such an ignorant comment? I will also argue the fact that RK + Mini is powerful but not the most ezmode of setups.
Second Marshal Carli
I'm Not Gold Taggin, I'm Carli Swaggin
I have a r7 weaver on BW so I know exactly how challenging they are to play. Weavers will have their day again when U6 comes. Anything else you have to say?
And to unpopular belief, RKs dont have the easiest time in the moors. I almost stopped playing my RK when ROI came out cuz of how ridiculously easy it is to kill us without support. Can't do much when we die so fast we can't build attunement to really pump out the damage. Funny how its always the class being OP that makes someone dangerous, not that the player has skill.
Second Marshal Carli
I'm Not Gold Taggin, I'm Carli Swaggin