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    Massive Westfold Farming Analysis

    EDIT: Please interpret these results with caution. 5.2 patch "increased the output amounts on the Bundle of Black Barley, Bunch of Bilberries, Bunch of Leeks and Bag of Coffee Beans from 1 to 2 on the small crop and from 5 to 10 on the large. If a crit happens, the small crops will produce 4 items and the large crop will produce 24. " These chance will effect not the results from the crop plantings but will impact things like cost:benefit, and the number of total crops once processed.

    Many farmers are unsure of whether to use regular Westfold or hearty Westfold crops, and whether it is worth it to use peat with either of them, this experiment tested that. I planted a total of four thousand crops which totaled 22,890 fair black barley crops.

    This experiment compared one thousand plantings each for: hearty crop + peat, hearty crop no peat, regular crop + peat, and regular crop no peat.
    I am not a statistician, but i believe my results have around a +-3% potential margin of error with a 95% confidence interval.

    Please see this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...m9sNWdXdFg4VVE for raw data, charts, and results!
    Below is some of the summarized and analyzed data.
    Ratios are for each single planting of the crop black barley

    hearty crop + peat: Herb ratio: .99, barley ratio: 8.38
    hearty crop no peat: Herb ratio: .50, barley ratio: 6.57
    regular crop + peat: Herb ratio: .51, barley ratio: 4.63
    regular crop no peat: Herb ratio: .24, barley ratio: 3.31

    For example for 100 plantings you should expect on average:

    hearty crop + peat: Herbs: 99, barley: 838
    hearty crop no peat: Herbs: 50, barley: 657
    regular crop + peat: Herbs: 51, barley: 463
    regular crop no peat: Herbs: 24, barley: 331

    Here is the expected time for planting and harvesting 100 crops:
    hearty crop + peat: 5.6 minutes
    hearty crop no peat: 7.2 minutes
    regular crop + peat: 10.2 minutes
    regular crop no peat: 14.2 minutes

    bulk processing 100: 3.3 minutes

    Cost:Benefit for 100 fair barley crops, not including repairs, and assuming zero cost for peat.
    hearty crop + peat: 147 silver
    hearty crop no peat: 187 silver
    regular crop + peat: 58 silver
    regular crop no peat: 81 silver

    Cost:Benefit for 100 westfold herbs, not including repairs, and zero cost for peat.
    hearty crop + peat: 1.240 gold
    hearty crop no peat: 2.456 gold
    regular crop + peat: .525gold
    regular crop no peat: 1.117 gold

    Fun Facts:
    -This took three weeks, averaging around 200 crops a day.
    -I spent 30 gold in just materials.
    -Total time farming and processing = 44 hours, around 2.2 hours a day.
    -I now hate (westfold) farming with a greater passion than before.
    -I forgot to include rich soil drop rate until halfway in the experiment, so i skipped it.

    If you have any questions feel free to ask
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    Last edited by Acebold; Nov 07 2012 at 10:54 PM.

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    Re: Massive Westfold Farming Analysis

    Very nicely done, and thank you for taking the time to share your results with the Westfold Farming Community!


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    Re: Massive Westfold Farming Analysis

    Thank you for the effort

    I just planted 100 Hearty Black Barley Field without peats at 5% crit chance, yielded:
    683 crops, 57 herbs, and 30 rich soil.
    Everything seems about right compared to your data.

    I would say rich soil ratio is 0.25 and with peats it could be 0.50.

    I have rich soil pilled up in my vault. I just never bothered to compost them into peats due to the sheer amount of times to do it.
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    Re: Massive Westfold Farming Analysis

    I'm sure I've farmed close to 2,000 crops by now, and my experience is in line with the OP's meticulous research. I concluded -- based purely upon trial and error -- that there is no point in using peat to produce well-tended crops. Normal crops offer the best return on silver. Hearty crops offer the best return on time.

    However:

    For all you dye farmers out there, I'd like to add my non-scientific observation that the increased yield from Well-tended Wildflower Fields seems well worth the effort of using peat.
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    Re: Massive Westfold Farming Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Toad View Post
    ...that there is no point in using peat to produce well-tended crops. Normal crops offer the best return on silver. Hearty crops offer the best return on time.
    I mostly agree with you, however as farmers we are usually also cooks, and desire the westfold herbs. using hearts crops + peat returns a 1:1 crop to westfold herb ratio, well worth it imo.

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    Re: Massive Westfold Farming Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebold View Post
    I mostly agree with you, however as farmers we are usually also cooks, and desire the westfold herbs. using hearts crops + peat returns a 1:1 crop to westfold herb ratio, well worth it imo.
    An excellent point, and one that was lost on me in your analysis! I do, indeed, desire the critically cooked vitality and agility trail food, and my cooks chew (pun intended) through the Westfold Herbs at a furious rate. Thanks to your research, I'll now look at a Pile of Rich Soil and see a Westfold Herb.

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