As you might know the Sarumans can be CCed (which includes being feared), so I would suggest you think more about your posts before you click the submit button. Seems like all you do is cry wolf...
w/e
You did get "warm reception" on Eldar when you announced it.
Lol
Thats what whole community thinks of your kin
Fact that you tried to hide your exploits on previous times on Saruman just adds to it.
Facts says that only God knows how many times you exploited it, take the loot.
So this is just nothing than a another fail acomplishment by old exploiters
Even if you did kill it without it, road up to it was paved by exploits.
Only way u guys know.
Have fun . . .
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like;
And I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
As much as I would love to argue with you Darethelion, I will in respect of Ultiheart hold my tounge. Dont make this thread end up as the previous one.
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(As a side note, I really wish that some of you would use a different photo hosting site. Maybe abload.de is the go-to site in Deutschland, but with the pop-ups, sidebar ads, and annoying flashing ads my computer needs a "The Accused"-style shower afterwards.)
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(As a side note, I really wish that some of you would use a different photo hosting site. Maybe abload.de is the go-to site in Deutschland, but with the pop-ups, sidebar ads, and annoying flashing ads my computer needs a "The Accused"-style shower afterwards.)
Lol, I agree.
And a big grats to Krieger des Lichts!
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(As a side note, I really wish that some of you would use a different photo hosting site. Maybe abload.de is the go-to site in Deutschland, but with the pop-ups, sidebar ads, and annoying flashing ads my computer needs a "The Accused"-style shower afterwards.)
Use photobucket. Upload photo then paste link here. Pictures show as full size not ones that're one inch big. Take two seconds to sign up and another two to upload a picture
Gilrain - Draigoch First 13/10/2011
Celestrata - Surprise, it's not a glitch!
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Doh no pics again was too busy hyper ventilating... Video should be up on website tomorrow, gotta love those messy 1st kill vids that make you look like a bunch of nabs, but also funny to look back on
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WOW! Shadow challenge complete! Great work fellows. An impressive feat indeed.
Note: I have tentatively added Divine Retribution [Eldar] to the list for Saruman tier 2 completion. While I am ALMOST utterly satisfied RE: the screens, I still must default to my rules on the first post RE: what the screen or video need contain. I believe this is a fair request and I have it on good authority that there IS footage that can be reviewed, which I will be requesting to see merely 1-2 minutes worth depicting the final phase with most/all clones being engaged.
Elyzia, I understand you are the leader of this group so please contact me VIA PM on the forums. I'm sure we can work something out and thus give people absolutely no doubt that your achievement is 100% gold.
Originally Posted by EmmeraldFireFox
... however when we attempt Saruman in Tier 1, you cannot fear any of the Sarumans. Does this change in tier 2???? ...
EDIT: I was very much incorrect - apparently (and I'm rather dumb for not seeing this for EACH freaking clone I had to tank) all clones START with the Fear Adaptation - as noted this is to prevent them wandering off the edge.
Innocent - congrats! I'm sure you'll shave time off as you perfect your methods. Excellent work and keep it up!
@darethelion & nightzirch90:
I appreciate that the argument has now either stopped in this thread or moved to PMs. We can all get along while in the company of the written word. Thank you for respecting the thread and ceasing hostilities immediately.
Last edited by Ultiheart; Feb 09 2012 at 09:02 AM.
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
As you might know the Sarumans can be CCed (which includes being feared), so I would suggest you think more about your posts before you click the submit button. Seems like all you do is cry wolf...
Originally Posted by EmmeraldFireFox
I am not sure about exploits and what others are doing however when we attempt Saruman in Tier 1, you cannot fear any of the Sarumans. Does this change in tier 2???? Thats a drastic change, and it will make me re-think things when we make Tier 2 Saruman attempts.
Originally Posted by Ultiheart
While only having had a few shots at this fight - all Saruman clones have the adaptation buff and it functions exactly the same as in previous fights throughout the instance. We have feared clones before and this appears to be unchanged in tier 2. Keeping in mind the major thing about tier 2 as a 'change' is that most, if not all, mechanics stick around from phase to phase!
You CANNOT fear the Sarumans. They start with the fear adapation on them. When the encounter starts you will see two adapation icons on them; one of them is fear.
Not sure how raids are fearing them, it should not be happening. If you are that is a bug and should be reported. This was done intentionaly to prevent Sarumans from "flying" off the edge and getting "easy" kills on them.
My kin completed phase5 of Saruman fight and during the phase5 one ring-bearer went LD. When he came back, his Ring UI was missing. And we couldn't do the phase change. We are a new raiding kin in Riddermark and we are thoroughly disappointed on the responses gave to me by the In game support.
ps, mind if I ask, how many people had first agers? I know one group with 3 first agers did it in about 6 minutes and you did it in 4:32 !
7 first ages
3 on hunters
1 on burglar
1 on champ
1 on guard (belt)
1 on captain (emblem)
I think a time under 4 minutes is possible. Just get 2 Burglars and 2 Hunters instead of 3 hunters and 1 burglar. But it's not all about first ages. You just need to optimize every thing. You are not allowed to have melee's stand still out of range for 20 seconds because you have bad timing with noxius fumes, you just need to optimize every move.
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3 on hunters
1 on burglar
1 on champ
1 on guard (belt)
1 on captain (emblem)
I think a time under 4 minutes is possible. Just get 2 Burglars and 2 Hunters instead of 3 hunters and 1 burglar. But it's not all about first ages. You just need to optimize every thing. You are not allowed to have melee's stand still out of range for 20 seconds because you have bad timing with noxius fumes, you just need to optimize every move.
Understood Thanks for your reply. +Rep
Gilrain - Draigoch First 13/10/2011
Celestrata - Surprise, it's not a glitch!
I agree with this statement we did with some 1/4min left and I was dead for the last 30 seconds. Silly range on ravager melee skills while rooted :P Whether your group stacks dps and kills most, or does half and half there will always be speed improve pts to shadow t2c.
Last edited by YesMaam; Feb 09 2012 at 11:27 AM.
Yelk ~ DieHard ~ The Warlord - Shock and Awe. You will fear me.
I agree with this statement we did with some 1/4min left and I was dead for the last 30 seconds. Silly range on ravager melee skills while rooted :P Whether your group stacks dps and kills most, or does half and half there will always be speed improve pts to shadow t2c.
We Kill 3, Tank 6. Did Try to tank more but that would need too much luck with roots, fumes and all that stuff is going on. Our Time was better with kill 3 then only kill 1-2 because we did not to care about off-tank gets dead be that uruks.
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For all that People that try Shadow T2CM after you first try, you will get the new quest when you engage that Boss. Because that Quest pops up 3-4 Seconds after you engage the boss. Care about that, because you only have 5 Minutes real fight time, the quest will fail 4-5 Seconds before the quest timer ends!
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we tanked 4 of the uruks, killed the others and missed it by one second because we were stupid enough to let a light reach the boss.
I think it's not nessesary to tank that many uruks, just makes everything more risky. Good dps are enough
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we tanked 4 of the uruks, killed the others and missed it by one second because we were stupid enough to let a light reach the boss.
I think it's not nessesary to tank that many uruks, just makes everything more risky. Good dps are enough
We had no issues with our tank tanking 6 uruks for 1 minute? he just uses some of his cd's and our minstrel uses fellowship heart. Sure you can kill more or less. Just try what's best for your group.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'd rather want to say a certain things to all:
If u're making the first kill, and you know - that would be a first WORLD kill - try to make some good screenshots. The shots made after the kill can be corrected in Photoshop (chat, chests - this all need only several minutes to do this). In other situations, this shots can be priced like that you've killed the boss, using some bug, so u don't show the stages.
Of course, showing a small part of the shot can cause only the thought that the author disregard the rest of the community.
By the way, the only strong evidence of the FIRST WORLD KILL might be a video of the Pull.
As mentioned, the achievement is tentatively on the list and I am in discussion RE: final confirmation of the kill. It is important enough to others thus it is important to me that all parties are satisfied. Once I have seen the last bit of information that I need, I can make a final decision.
Yes, as always initial screenshots can easily be interpreted to be missing vital information - which is why I am following my line of inquiry into the matter.
Also - thank you RE: fear CC on Saruman clones. Was not aware fears were absolutely right out (and on reflection...would explain why the clones I had all to myself somehow had said Fear Adaptation...no wonder). Changed my post to reflect this.
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
Sorry that we are in the earlier timezone :P. Gratz for you kill. We love that boss. But we hate Saruman like you do, when i understand you comment.
I have no video, you must believe us that we kill him legit
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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It's just pending some final pieces of information regarding the completion before being officially added to the list - will have this in a few days or so I believe. Not to worry and alllllllllll is calm, yes...calm.
Happy place.
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
I don't think anyone in my kin is looking forward to Saruman. Im pretty sure its the most boring repetitive fight ever made in this game. Especially when learning it. :P But we will work on it like everyone else. But first F/F!
Have you done Acid CM after the patch yet? Its not that hard but as long as you have no 2nd try if someone failed during the acid rise its very annoying...
argh, damn black clouds after the kill
But it was a very nice run today, all 4 bosses in one evening. I guess in a month or so everyone will be clearing the first bosses with 3 challenges in about one and a half hours. PS: burgs are way too op in that raid... over 3k dps until 65% (call to greatness ftw) and only dropped under 2k in the end because i had to misposition myself to conj an eludhan
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You just dont stop, do you? Lol
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