Clarification: The following relates to Saruman Tier 2 and Saruman Tier 2 + Challenge.
Warning:
Due to two separate methods in which Saruman tier 1, tier 2, and in one of those cases, tier 2 challenge can have much of the difficulty, if not all, circumvented, I regrettably must enforce a rather specific screenshot policy regarding the Tier 2 and Tier 2 Challenge portion of this thread:
1. Screenshots - this screenshot(s) must show 3 things. Firstly, it must show the "Saruman's Ring" UI box at it's 5th stage. Secondly, the screenshot(s) must show the group (12) in ACTIVE combat with the 10 Saruman's, at least upwards of 6-8 of them. Thirdly, the time in the screens (this tends to show in chat windows automatically on taking a screenshot - practise if you are not sure).
2. An additional screenshot showing the "No, my ring!" part of the fight will assist in making sure the fight has been attempted to its completion. The above rule (1) is the most important, but screenshots allow this to show your complete victory over Saruman Tier 2 and Saruman Tier 2 Challenge.
Rules:
1. Be civil. Break this - thread lock time.
Many thanks and applause to TheFrank for keeping the initial thread going so long. It is a pity for it to have been locked but I believe with the new rules above, things may be cleaner.
If you can, take some time to look at the previous thread, understand why it was locked, be ashamed not because of the arguments...but because poor TheFrank tried to keep things in line and people ignored that.
You won't have a list next time, barring your own 'copy+pastes' if these rules are broken again.
If you can complete tier 2 wings, I'm sure you have the ability to be civil as well.
Last edited by Ultiheart; May 29 2012 at 12:32 AM.
Reason: Civility - can't expect others to be so, if the OP himself is not.
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
On reflection, not many people are reporting Full Tier 1 clears (other than the now locked thread). I will certainly consider adding Tier 1 full clears (alone, not individual wings) if there is enough interest. Note - enough DISINTEREST will not cause it to be removed. Significant interest deserves a response, regardless of what I or any other person may think of the difficulty.
T1 Full clear also ofc but like the poster below me i have to say dont bother with t1 clears, but up to you.
Not sure if you where going to copy paste the progressions from the last thread but I thought I'd post this anyway, if you will copy paste from last thread, feel free to delete this post as it doesnt contribute anything new.
*Edit: Noticed some links didnt work but posted kin page where you can see them on the front page*
Last edited by Rillen-LA; Feb 04 2012 at 07:07 AM.
Not sure if you where going to copy paste the progressions from the last thread but I thought I'd post this anyway, if you will copy paste from last thread, feel free to delete this post as it doesnt contribute anything new.
Sent a PM to TheFrank asking if I could use the information in the list. Whilst I assume I can (as it is knowledge available to anyone willing to look, AND could just as easily be reposted by every single group) I'd like to make sure I'm not treading on toes before I do so, as he kindly took the time to keep it updated.
Thank you for the posts to get this started again and can't wait to see more accomplishments (good work to all Tier 2 groups...I know it'll be easier NOW, but by gum some of those trash pulls are brutal, though I imagine I am missing plenty about what is going on).
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
Since we are starting a new Thread, I guess it would be best if you only use Acid T2 kills after update 5.1 to reflect the difficulty of the different bosses as they are right now. Acid pre-5.1 was a joke, now it's probably the hardest nm except Saruman.
Blarelius, Blanadir, Dorilion, Lirania.
Kinship: Streiter der Freiheit - Raid: Legion der Freunde
Since we are starting a new Thread, I guess it would be best if you only use Acid T2 kills after update 5.1 to reflect the difficulty of the different bosses as they are right now. Acid pre-5.1 was a joke, now it's probably the hardest nm except Saruman.
The way TheFrank did it was informative. There was the list of kins that beat Acid T2 and in what order and then a cutline and then the list of kins that beat Acid T2 after the update.
That informs and allows anyone to come to their own conclusions about what is or is not an accomplishment. For example, Acid T2 pre-5.1 obviously wasn't a joke for everyone... that list wasn't nearly as deep as Lightning T2C before the update, for example.
@Sinnergy
Good work on the tier 2s!
"Full Clear T1 for sure also. But I don't think you should list it up...You could do that already with a normal 6-man group."
Opinion noted.
@sdf-blarelius
I will be listing acid clears on tier 2. As TheFrank has given permission RE: old thread info, I will consider at a later date your opinion on pre-update/post-update clears. The purpose of this thread is a record. I assume people can and will respect that.
@TheFrank
Indeed, I cannot moderate. However, rather than wait for a mod to lock it themselves on their own judgment, I will draw their attention to the thread if it starts heading downhill and they can lock more swiftly than if left simply up to their own browsing.
Will start adding the old information into the list. Thanks once again for your hard work and good luck to all groups out there attempting this gauntlet of a raid.
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
1. OMG SO CLOSE!!! Damn bad luck there, but clearly CM is merely another attempt away.
2. I have listed: *Divide et Impera - [DE-RP]Belegaer under "Shadow" Tier 2. That said, you listed "LDF - Belegaer" and the poster below is also of a different kin. Is this a combined effort that you would like listed separately as "LDF" or under one or two separate banners?
Brilliant work on the attempt!
Puny metal sticks not stop Dargnahk!
Kinship: Neled Gwaith - Guardian/Burglar/Captain/Minstrel/Hunter 75. Champion, Lore-master 65 or above. Rune-Keeper (47), Warden (31).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
Hunter - Champion - Guardian * [DE]Morthond * Krieger des Lichts
2. I have listed: *Divide et Impera - [DE-RP]Belegaer under "Shadow" Tier 2. That said, you listed "LDF - Belegaer" and the poster below is also of a different kin. Is this a combined effort that you would like listed separately as "LDF" or under one or two separate banners?
It's the "Legion der Freunde", thats a raid-alliance with people from many different kins.
But don't care about it, when we get a new achievement, we'll post the full name + server :P
Lets hope we can get acid cm and shadow cm next friday
Blarelius, Blanadir, Dorilion, Lirania.
Kinship: Streiter der Freiheit - Raid: Legion der Freunde
Antithesis - Windfola - Lightning challenge. Unfortunately no screenshots because we forgot two weeks in a row. :/ Will try to remember this coming reset.
Last edited by KazeKami; Feb 06 2012 at 10:33 AM.
Reason: Spelling errors.
At last, I want to ask a question: I know that Saruman was Killed with exploit but... maybe someone shall answer me (PM) IS There a unique title for first server kill?
No one wonders why was Saruman draged off platform?!
Another lil exploit that we dont know of?
lol . . .
After God knows how many exploited runs and looting of clasps/1st agers . . . my granny would kill T2 eventualy . . .
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like;
And I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
No one wonders why was Saruman draged off platform?!
Another lil exploit that we dont know of?
lol . . .
After God knows how many exploited runs and looting of clasps/1st agers . . . my granny would kill T2 eventualy . . .
Maybe because it is just a screenshot from the phase 5 showing a cracked ring in the upper left corner and a Saruman Storm-Master (one of copies, not the real one)? After all the previous talks about exploits, people on this forum were often asking to provide screenshots from the last phase to show that it was not skipped.
The screenshot demonstrating the completed deed and a lot of seals received by the raid members is attached below in the same post.
Grats to Divine Retribution! And personally, I would love to see the vid of the messy run...gives hope to those of us for whom messy runs are a fairly regular occurance
No one wonders why was Saruman draged off platform?!
Another lil exploit that we dont know of?
lol . . .
After God knows how many exploited runs and looting of clasps/1st agers . . . my granny would kill T2 eventualy . . .
You just dont stop, do you? Lol
As you might know the Sarumans can be CCed (which includes being feared), so I would suggest you think more about your posts before you click the submit button. Seems like all you do is cry wolf...
Member of The Illuminati on Eldar Elriwan (85 Rune-Keeper)
As you might know the Sarumans can be CCed (which includes being feared), so I would suggest you think more about your posts before you click the submit button. Seems like all you do is cry wolf...
I am not sure about exploits and what others are doing however when we attempt Saruman in Tier 1, you cannot fear any of the Sarumans. Does this change in tier 2???? Thats a drastic change, and it will make me re-think things when we make Tier 2 Saruman attempts.
Also when attempting to bring a saruman to the "side" there are LOS issues. So kudos for getting one there and tanking it. Once again, I have only done Tier 1 so I want to say sorry ahead of time if things are very diffrenent in teir 2.
BTW, on another note I want to thanks members here that have been helping with advice on some of these bosses. I really do appreciate it. Big thank you! You know who you are. /hugs ;-)