Take it to the plains of grams dealarr, not tr ramp.
cute reply kiddo. it doesn't count as open field when you're 20 feet away from you npcs and you can seem to keep yourselves from running with your skirts in the air back to them. we don't want you in the plains of grams, we like a steady stream of infamy to flow to us. they don't make deliveries to grams. we asked that you come to trw where if there does happen to be a breeze, you won't be back in your npcs before we've had a chance to chow down.
Cheers,
If u don't like me you can kiss my furry white ***, or... try to kill it... but gl with that... /disappear
Doesn't count as an 'open field' when your 10m away from a map point either.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. <Generally OP
cute reply kiddo. it doesn't count as open field when you're 20 feet away from you npcs and you can seem to keep yourselves from running with your skirts in the air back to them. we don't want you in the plains of grams, we like a steady stream of infamy to flow to us. they don't make deliveries to grams. we asked that you come to trw where if there does happen to be a breeze, you won't be back in your npcs before we've had a chance to chow down.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
no one agreed to an open field except the craids was hiding behind that rock at PTR when there were 50 on TS3 due to SWTOR server maintenance. We know Vyxey baby loves to turn maps red by drop pulling every block out there as it seems to make him think he'd won the fight even though we made more renown, hence we sat at tr hs for some drop pull denial. I don't know why he does that, it bothers my mind.
one more thing, the slight elevation of tr ramp definitely gave us a distinct advantage over the numbers advantage, higher ground and all.
no one agreed to an open field except the craids was hiding behind that rock at PTR when there were 50 on TS3 due to SWTOR server maintenance. We know Vyxey baby loves to turn maps red by drop pulling every block out there as it seems to make him think he'd won the fight even though we made more renown, hence we sat at tr hs for some drop pull denial. I don't know why he does that, it bothers my mind.
one more thing, the slight elevation of tr ramp definitely gave us a distinct advantage over the numbers advantage, higher ground and all.
A. We were in TR HS, you guys were at V-rock on the ramp.
B. You counted 50 in TS... if you included the afk channel. Our raids were < 40 in total (and our tracks on you put your numbers at 37-40 depending on where alzie's little group was.
C. There is no "higher ground" advantage on TR ramp. There is however "hiding in your keep", which the ranged portion of your group did the moment they came under any sort of focus fire at V-rock.
What we had last night for a while there, were as close to even numbers as possible short of fighting pre-arranged groups. It was a sad, wasted opportunity to have some more interesting fights than the standard "run into the keep if they start shooting you". Our repeated tracks put the number differential no more than +/- 3 players over the course of several engagements. Three players is not a "numbers advantage" in a fight that large.
Let's be clear, the balance pendulum is sitting very firmly on your side of the circle this update. With proper leadership and willingness to seize the initiative you all would have been overpowering virtually anywhere on the map. A kriptic or Leon lead raid would have taken those fights into the field and probably still made 2-3x however many points you all got. I actually feel a bit bad for you all once that pendulum swings back, as this timidness when your side has the upper-hand probably means that once the balance has swung you won't be able to fill raids or advance past bear valley.
As it was, it was nice to have some larger fights and not have the server detonate (the combat system changes in 5.1 may be terrible for 1v1s, but the slower skill activation rate seems to have helped the servers out a lot for raid vs raid). I'm sure blue numbers were pouring in on both sides.
The highlight of the night for me was at cows... wwidow accidently pulled rockwithers with a trap, we backed off while he ran into you to suicide and some fool LM or champ tagged the giant cow... and the route was on (almost full wipe at cows, survivors fled to LC to die and watch the keep flip). Completely silly to put a trap down right where Rocky paths... my guess was a sticky gourde tagged rocky on your side.
"Spiders CC is unbearable... it's just as bad as loremasters" ~ Brodster
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
A. We were in TR HS, you guys were at V-rock on the ramp.
B. You counted 50 in TS... if you included the afk channel. Our raids were < 40 in total (and our tracks on you put your numbers at 37-40 depending on where alzie's little group was.
C. There is no "higher ground" advantage on TR ramp. There is however "hiding in your keep", which the ranged portion of your group did the moment they came under any sort of focus fire at V-rock.
What we had last night for a while there, were as close to even numbers as possible short of fighting pre-arranged groups. It was a sad, wasted opportunity to have some more interesting fights than the standard "run into the keep if they start shooting you". Our repeated tracks put the number differential no more than +/- 3 players over the course of several engagements. Three players is not a "numbers advantage" in a fight that large.
Let's be clear, the balance pendulum is sitting very firmly on your side of the circle this update. With proper leadership and willingness to seize the initiative you all would have been overpowering virtually anywhere on the map. A kriptic or Leon lead raid would have taken those fights into the field and probably still made 2-3x however many points you all got. I actually feel a bit bad for you all once that pendulum swings back, as this timidness when your side has the upper-hand probably means that once the balance has swung you won't be able to fill raids or advance past bear valley.
As it was, it was nice to have some larger fights and not have the server detonate (the combat system changes in 5.1 may be terrible for 1v1s, but the slower skill activation rate seems to have helped the servers out a lot for raid vs raid). I'm sure blue numbers were pouring in on both sides.
The highlight of the night for me was at cows... wwidow accidently pulled rockwithers with a trap, we backed off while he ran into you to suicide and some fool LM or champ tagged the giant cow... and the route was on (almost full wipe at cows, survivors fled to LC to die and watch the keep flip). Completely silly to put a trap down right where Rocky paths... my guess was a sticky gourde tagged rocky on your side.
Uh, no. You were hiding behind that rock with all those antipower banners, we were at TR HS. Charged you twice, you guys lost twice. Please write more essays, I enjoy reading them.
My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
I don't know about the rest of all this, but I can say there were not 50 creeps on anywhere. Going by Teamspeak numbers is going to include AFK's and other people do random miscellaneous things.
I do know there were around the same number of freeps and creeps at tr west. I don' t know our exact numbers but I think it was approximately 35 to 40, and on three different tracks of freeps I got 37,39, and 37 again. I'm pretty sure I missed a couple of outlying freeps on those tracks as well (not many though...1 or 2 I'd guess).
The numbers were close. Being close to a map point is nice I guess, but being close to your keep and your rez circle is also nice and given my choice, I'd choose the latter.
Uh, no. You were hiding behind that rock with all those antipower banners, we were at TR HS. Charged you twice, you guys lost twice. Please write more essays, I enjoy reading them.
I think you honestly don't know what/where TR HS is...
That ring of rocks we were standing in, THAT is the old TR-west hotspot. In the ring of rocks. That's what it was. Used to have a capturable flag and some NPCs. Now it's just a ring of rocks. So anyways, WE were in TR hotspot. You guys were just standing about 10-15m in front of V rock. It's actually a really fun place for a fight, you should charge your whole force into there sometime.
Your melee certainly charged twice. Your backline charged also, only they charged up TR ramp and into NPCS. Wouldn't you know it... in a fight with even numbers, NPCs offer a pretty strong advantage?
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also, those banners you saw were not power banners. Power banners duration is so short that we do not place them until we engage your raid. The banners you saw were our defensive buffing banners (point defense and command post).
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"Spiders CC is unbearable... it's just as bad as loremasters" ~ Brodster
Freep raids actually wipe? lol. Even if game balance is screwed, can't really give the creeps much credit, considering about 80% of them keyboard turn AND click skills. Most freeps are just awful; Creeps would obliterate them everytime if freep CD's weren't so effed.
I think you honestly don't know what/where TR HS is...
That ring of rocks we were standing in, THAT is the old TR-west hotspot. In the ring of rocks. That's what it was. Used to have a capturable flag and some NPCs. Now it's just a ring of rocks. So anyways, WE were in TR hotspot. You guys were just standing about 10-15m in front of V rock. It's actually a really fun place for a fight, you should charge your whole force into there sometime.
Your melee certainly charged twice. Your backline charged also, only they charged up TR ramp and into NPCS. Wouldn't you know it... in a fight with even numbers, NPCs offer a pretty strong advantage?
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also, those banners you saw were not power banners. Power banners duration is so short that we do not place them until we engage your raid. The banners you saw were our defensive buffing banners (point defense and command post).
I don't get it, you arguing about the existance of an open field fight, now you go and argue the name of a spot that is old and not current. Then you wanna QQ about us utilising npc's to deny you infamy. Is it some kinda power trip you are on because I don't see the cohesion in any of this.
I don't get it, you arguing about the existance of an open field fight, now you go and argue the name of a spot that is old and not current. Then you wanna QQ about us utilising npc's to deny you infamy. Is it some kinda power trip you are on because I don't see the cohesion in any of this.
"Utilising NPCs to deny you infamy" ..The Freep justification of NPC-Hugging
The goal is not quality PVP...the goal is to play as cheap as possible in order to win or at least to deny the other side any victories
That is just plain wrong
You will pay for your crimes Dealarr
My Warg is going to assassinate you Blade-style
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My name is Purebloodnakh, Chieftain of Saruman's Armies of the North, General of the Warg Legions, loyal servant to the true Lord, Sauron. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Umm... TR West which is clearly labeled on that map is also known as TR West Hotspot. Named that since it was a hot spot historically and it was the one west of TR vs the TR S hotspot which was never really a place to fight and hence fairly unknown. (TR W used to be covered in NPCs galore when controlled by freeps)
And there certainly weren't creeps 'twice their number' out there. Melee raid was between 20-22 and I never heard the ranged raid get above 2 groups (so maximum 40). And tracked in front of us were consistent high 30s low 40s numbers.
Not to mention, in this book any freeps can't beat creeps in group-group or raid-raid with even numbers is well.... it's pretty pathetic. (unless we get to the ridiculous setups like 6 hunters vs 6 reavers...)
Umm... TR West which is clearly labeled on that map is also known as TR West Hotspot. Named that since it was a hot spot historically and it was the one west of TR vs the TR S hotspot which was never really a place to fight and hence fairly unknown. (TR W used to be covered in NPCs galore when controlled by freeps)
And there certainly weren't creeps 'twice their number' out there. Melee raid was between 20-22 and I never heard the ranged raid get above 2 groups (so maximum 40). And tracked in front of us were consistent high 30s low 40s numbers.
Not to mention, in this book any freeps can't beat creeps in group-group or raid-raid with even numbers is well.... it's pretty pathetic. (unless we get to the ridiculous setups like 6 hunters vs 6 reavers...)
Oh thank god. a map and a history lesson. we can get past the 'where is where' 'what is what' BS. I can attest that the Creeps were clearly at TRW/ TR HS: thread over. Do i get rep now? :3
Oh thank god. a map and a history lesson. we can get past the 'where is where' 'what is what' BS. I can attest that the Creeps were clearly at TRW/ TR HS: thread over. Do i get rep now? :3
P.S. ty Vyxe!
I'll let Pureblood deal with you.
Ebe - Best CC Capt out there - Softello - Worst Champ ever to play Lotro - Dobags - Failwarg
Then you wanna QQ about us utilising npc's to deny you infamy.
Umm, actully....
When you fight in your own NPC's the creeps still get full credit for every kill. Your own NPC's, however, "deny" your side renown and KB's. That and it makes you look, just a little, pathetic.
When you fight in your own NPC's the creeps still get full credit for every kill. Your own NPC's, however, "deny" your side renown and KB's. That and it makes you look, just a little, pathetic.
Good point
Thats why it takes Freeps so long to rank up
Because the NPCs get most of the Renown and KBs
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