Thread: How much would you pay for new PVP maps?

Dear community,

Inorder to give turbine an incentive to do what theyve been promising for as long as I can remember to provide new PVP maps for us.

How much would you pay for these maps? if turbine could be persuaded to release them..

I love PVP so much as a creep that pvp content is more valuable than expansions like isengard or riders of rohan..both of which I will not buy..ever until you fix ettens..

Discuss?

thankye kindly,

A level 36 burg
A rank 7 wargy

However much I payed for RoI, when they promised there would be a new one. -_-

Nothing. Zip, nada, zilch. I have no desire to buy something I will never use.

No extra because it should be included with the update , they added pvp to the game from the start so its should be updated just like everything else in the game .

I've bought MoM, SoM and RoI all with the promise of PvP maps. Before I start dishing out cash for more maps I want the 3 that I am owed.

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

I've bought MoM, SoM and RoI all with the promise of PvP maps. Before I start dishing out cash for more maps I want the 3 that I am owed.

I do not recall there being anything said about a PvP map with Siege of Mirkwood. MoM and RoI both mentioned the same map. At best you are owed one.

I would not pay anything for a PvP map. PvP in Lotro sucks. It always has. I want PvP. I play a game that has a better system. I never really fond of the MMORPG PvP systems. I personally prefer the FPS games especially the ones where you can configure the load out both players are using. Something more a flight simulator game where it is skill not gear based. Skill not numbers based.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

I do not recall there being anything said about a PvP map with Siege of Mirkwood. MoM and RoI both mentioned the same map. At best you are owed one.

I would not pay anything for a PvP map. PvP in Lotro sucks. It always has. I want PvP. I play a game that has a better system. I never really fond of the MMORPG PvP systems. I personally prefer the FPS games especially the ones where you can configure the load out both players are using. Something more a flight simulator game where it is skill not gear based. Skill not numbers based.

I dont remember any developer/producer mentioning that the mapped they promised previously would be given at the next expansion. All I do remember is the fact they stated we would be getting a new pvp map. So lotro players are still owed the previously promised PvP maps.

I PvP on and off so I would probably pay $10 if it were pretty much the same settings as the Moors, $20 if were cool/different in some way, $30 if there was some really compelling new mechanic (PvP instances/skirms, warg riders for mounted combat, etc.).

It'd depend on what was in the new map. If it was basically the map we already have with the same mechanics but new scenery and a different layout then I wouldn't pay anything for it. If it features a new type of PvP format like king-of-the-hill, or has new features like NPCs that randomly attack either side that act as a "third" side, then I'd gladly shell out 1k+ TP.

I would be willing to pay $10 a month for a new PvP map. Of course, this is the $10 a month I pay in order to have access to all the content. I would pay a bit extra for an expansion including PvP, but turbine could never get away with marketing that, as those who don't PvP feel they shouldn't be paying for it. Which is silly, since I don't quest in the Shire, but I have to pay for that...all part of the total package

I doubt I'd pay for a new PvP region, but I would pay for some kind of small group (e.g 10 vs 10) battle-ground (like WoW, RIFT, SWTOR, etc have).

Given how much time I spend in the Moors I think I might be willing part myself with about 1k of those free TP Turbine keeps sending my way.

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

I dont remember any developer/producer mentioning that the mapped they promised previously would be given at the next expansion. All I do remember is the fact they stated we would be getting a new pvp map. So lotro players are still owed the previously promised PvP maps.

Map not maps.

Let me give a real world example. I offer to take my buddy out for a free lunch on January 3, 2012. I cancel. I offer to take buddy out for lunch on January 10, 2012 - that is the same free lunch my buddy did not eat on January 3, 2012. Buddy does not get two free lunches because I cancelled.

To further build on this example, if I offerred a free lunch on January 3, 2012. It did not get eaten. The offer has expired. I am no obligation to extend it a second time. I could never bring it up again. Or if asked about it, nope sorry. It was only available on January 3, 2012.

Some objective based 18v18 or 12v12 instanced maps with cross server queues would be nice, and would be (for me at least) a much larger welcome than a second "zone" to have random pvp in. I don't understand the point in having a second "moors-ish" map, it will be reduced to 2 or 3 spots where both sides congregate at (just like the moors) where 90% of the days pvp will take place.

I'd especially like to see this since the next step for the instance finder (besides tuning out the worthless groups like hunter/hunter/mini for T2 Troll) is to link the servers with the random instance finder like other MMOs so there is never a shortage of queued players.

I would pay nothing. However I would gladly quite a bit for pvp to be removed from lotro

Originally Posted by VoodooJack_EU

I've bought MoM, SoM and RoI all with the promise of PvP maps. Before I start dishing out cash for more maps I want the 3 that I am owed.

Just like he says!

I would pay half a million Destiny Points, several Thousand Tokens of Valour and a sack full of Lumi Stones... They can have all my barrels of oil!

In fact though in the spirit of encouraging the Mamon worshiping storewhores of Turbine/Warner Brothers I can honestly say I will gief 10% of my annual income for the 3 PvP maps they owe me...

I will sell them my house and split the proceeds 50 50 with them, and sacrifice my firstborn to Sauron in return for a new PvP map... and Im a Freep!

But they have to nerf all tacticals who steal too many of my KBs these days...

GIEFF NEW PVP MAP NAO!

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

Map not maps.

Let me give a real world example. I offer to take my buddy out for a free lunch on January 3, 2012. I cancel. I offer to take buddy out for lunch on January 10, 2012 - that is the same free lunch my buddy did not eat on January 3, 2012. Buddy does not get two free lunches because I cancelled.

To further build on this example, if I offerred a free lunch on January 3, 2012. It did not get eaten. The offer has expired. I am no obligation to extend it a second time. I could never bring it up again. Or if asked about it, nope sorry. It was only available on January 3, 2012.

If you keep canceling lunch Buddy will eventually get tired of you reneging and find better friends, just as turbines customers will leave (some at least) if they keep promising things and don't produce.

How much would I pay for a new PvMP map? Nothing.

If a new PvMP map were touted as an add on feature to an expansion, I might ask for a discounted version that doesn't include the PvMP map that I wouldn't use anyway. In that sense, I would only pay a negative amount...Turbine would have to pay *me* to accept a new PvMP map.

--W. H. Heydt

Old Used Programmer

Originally Posted by Belegaran

I would pay nothing. However I would gladly quite a bit for pvp to be removed from lotro

I'd pay about 5 bucks for self-important posters like this one to just not post at all, or the one above me. But for a new map? Nothing considering how many times we've been promised one.

I would pay as much as Riders of Rohan costs.

kthnxbai

are you fraking kidding? i payed for RoI which was "supposed" to contain a new PvMP map which has yet to be delivered. im not paying more for what i was supposed to recieve when i purchased RoI... and yet f2p players who pay nothing get access to what ViP were paying for.. yeah ill pay when hell freezes over or when turbine pay me to buy the new pvmp zone.. hell freezing over is more likely

id like to see turbine trying to sell a 6 seater car with only 2 seats and prommise to give the rest of the seats later beause theyve not been bothered to make the rest of the seats on time

Nothing as I always thought PvP sucked as an idea anyway

I'd get VIP again

I think it should be included as part of an expansion or an update. I don't pvp, but I feel that it's part of the game.

$9.99 a month. Oh wait....

The same that I pay for my PvP map (and everything else) now, $9.99 a month.

I would not pay for a PvMP zone. frankly, if they do plan on adding it as part of the expac I hope there is an option to opt out of the new zone and pay less for the expac. I don't hate PvMP, I just don't think it's all that fun, it usually isn't fun and it has an annoying tendancy to affect PvE.

Originally Posted by zaskoda

I'd pay about 5 bucks for self-important posters like this one to just not post at all, or the one above me. But for a new map? Nothing considering how many times we've been promised one.

Amen



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Personally I believe we are owed a new map free of charge however, that dosn't really answer the original question.

It would depend on the quality of the map, range of changes etc. Simply having a new stomping ground is still worth something to someone who has been stuck in the Ettens for 5 years. I would pay as much as an expansion such as RoI considering I have spent 90% of my playtime since that came out in the Ettens anyway. For some more major changes I could be encouraged to pay more but there would have to be some serious love given to PvP.

Originally Posted by Belegaran

I would pay nothing. However I would gladly quite a bit for pvp to be removed from lotro

Originally Posted by lf2536

I would not pay for a PvMP zone. frankly, if they do plan on adding it as part of the expac I hope there is an option to opt out of the new zone and pay less for the expac. I don't hate PvMP, I just don't think it's all that fun, it usually isn't fun and it has an annoying tendancy to affect PvE.

I don't understand you people. It's a perfectly valid part of the game that many enjoy. I find PvMP more fun than PvE, let's go ahead and delete all that content from the game I don't enjoy as much.

Also, I fail to see how PvE is affected in ANY way by the Moors.

I would pay nothing for a new map. I like the existing one. Its already had a tree and a bird added in the last year and im still trying to absorb those changes. Perhaps another bush later in the year? Or even a small fish that jumps? But please, not a new map. Let's take things slowly.

I wouldn't pay...I'm VIP...I expect a new map.

This would depend
If we are talking about just a new place to fight in, give or take 10-15€
If we are talking a full revamp of PVMP with a new fighting area wich is balanced out i'd say around 25-30€ depending if it's true to what it sould be, i wouldn't pay a dime unless someone i know and trust(in vilya's case someone in sabotage i know) since i'm not too fond of what i'm getting vs what is being advertised

MT

Zero, it's not my thing.

They should copy WAR having a pvp instance aswell as a persistant map or two. There is only so much endgame you can do at least pvp keeps me going until the next disapointing expansion.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

Map not maps.

Let me give a real world example. I offer to take my buddy out for a free lunch on January 3, 2012. I cancel. I offer to take buddy out for lunch on January 10, 2012 - that is the same free lunch my buddy did not eat on January 3, 2012. Buddy does not get two free lunches because I cancelled.

To further build on this example, if I offerred a free lunch on January 3, 2012. It did not get eaten. The offer has expired. I am no obligation to extend it a second time. I could never bring it up again. Or if asked about it, nope sorry. It was only available on January 3, 2012.

The difference is, your buddy didn't pay for those two lunches that he was supposed to get for free.

Your second example is worse. The only reason this "free lunch" failed to be "eaten" was because the company failed to produce.

Originally Posted by Beastnas

Originally Posted by Belegaran

I would pay nothing. However I would gladly quite a bit for pvp to be removed from lotro

Originally Posted by lf2536

I would not pay for a PvMP zone. frankly, if they do plan on adding it as part of the expac I hope there is an option to opt out of the new zone and pay less for the expac. I don't hate PvMP, I just don't think it's all that fun, it usually isn't fun and it has an annoying tendancy to affect PvE.

I don't understand you people. It's a perfectly valid part of the game that many enjoy. I find PvMP more fun than PvE, let's go ahead and delete all that content from the game I don't enjoy as much.

Also, I fail to see how PvE is affected in ANY way by the Moors.

I do think that Belegaran's opinion is incorrect. PvMP is a big part of LOTRO and it should remain a priority of the devs to keep it working as well as practicable.

But as an avid forum reader, I do sympathize with the anti-PvMP crowd. I do get quite annoyed when certain creeps go to the class forums to complain how my classes are overpowered. There is a genuine nervousness that champions will be nerfed, including those of us who hardly spend any time in the Moors.

It isn't backed up by evidence--we don't have tapes of Turbine devs' deliberations--but isn't there widespread belief that the changes to Heartseeker and Epic Conclusion were driven by PvMP balance issues?

Also, it would be nice if the Coldfells Banner weren't a Moors exclusive. I would probably use that thing in raids if I enjoyed PvMP enough to get to rank 8, but I find PvMP raiding tiresome. Maybe a new map would help with that.

Regarding the OPs question, I'd be happy if a new PvMP map were added as a free VIP perk (not as part of the expansion). If they were to add a new mechanic like warzones, creep skirmishes, or mounted PvMP etc., it would be worth packaging with the expansion or in the LOTRO store. I'd make it part of the non-basic Expansion package.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

Map not maps.

Let me give a real world example. I offer to take my buddy out for a free lunch on January 3, 2012. I cancel. I offer to take buddy out for lunch on January 10, 2012 - that is the same free lunch my buddy did not eat on January 3, 2012. Buddy does not get two free lunches because I cancelled.

To further build on this example, if I offerred a free lunch on January 3, 2012. It did not get eaten. The offer has expired. I am no obligation to extend it a second time. I could never bring it up again. Or if asked about it, nope sorry. It was only available on January 3, 2012.

What are you talking about, if they sold you expansions a product that contained a pvp map as stated explicitly in MoM and ROI expansion then they are legally bound to deliver. If you were sold a car and it didnt contain the a/c that was stated with the package option then you have legal grounds to annul the contract at least in Ireland.

This isnt an offer of dinner or some other #### with your friends this is a legal contract between the customer and Turbine. The community is owed 2 maps at least. Mirkwood I believe had some insinuation towards a PvP map, but if people had legal means to pursue Turbine for contractual performance then of course we would have our maps, but unfortunately I dont and I dont know any government organisation in US that is for customer protection.

I would like to suggest that lore-masters moors armour needs to have more will and not fate. I have looked at all the other classes and the armour they have is tailored for them. Lore-masters seem to be the only ones overlooked in the update when it comes to the new armour? I would like to plead that the new moors armour will be more will heavy in the upcoming expansion. I am not asking for some major overhaul but maybe just switching all the fate with will. I understand that some fate is good, I do but the armour is just so fate heavy. I like everything else about the armour. Peace out

*Or maybe make a set of armour that is for a LM that wants to be supporter / "healer" and one for more of a solo player that needs more punch in the attack like how i play. You can't always count on getting a group going.

**As to what I would pay, hhmm think I would let the VIP take care of that

Turbine owe is a new PvP map, as they have promised one since the dawn of time.


If ever the Gods have mercy on us, Turbine will release a new PvP map, and I would expect it to come free with one of the future major expansions. If it costs money, I will not pay a penny for something so long deserved in compensation for the stale area we have now.