Thread: 10 things why LOTRO is bad MMO

Originally Posted by Tranzmaster

Half of the things you say depends on the server you're playing.

Also, Lotro is ranked 3rd on MMORPG.COM behind Rift and GW2 (but that isnt out yet so theyre actually 2nd)
Which means LOTRO is the best non-subscription game in the world, so apparently, not everyone shares your thought.
Also, the vast majority of the players just love Tolkien or LOTR. Its the story, the atmosphere, which makes this game so epic. If you're looking for a empty-headed lvling game, so play WOW or one of the thousand Asian MMO's which are all the same and pointless in infinity.

Goodbye.

exactly.. as i said in my post go play Runes of Magic if anyone wants a pointless VERY VERY expensive F2P asian mmo

i agree Lotro is very nice and i like it.. i quit WoW to play this game and i don't rly miss WoW much.. (maybe some pvp)

few thing i would like to say to OP :

1. spend some coins or grind the tp in game. there's no such thing as free lunch. there is no external advertiser in the game for turbine to make money. you don't see Coca-Cola or KFC advertisement on trees in lotro. the developer need money to maintain servers and develop new content for YOU to enjoy. that's why subscription and lotro store is there. get real !

2. you complain about difficulty in finding group. well i guess it depends on the server actually. some servers are very end-game concentrated you rarely see lowbie in starter towns. like others have suggested, GET YOURSELF SOME FRIENDS... join kin.

3. you complain about price in AH being very high. i wonder why would a lowbie like you would want to buy something in AH anyway ? just use the monster drop or quest reward gear. they are sufficient. if you really desperate for new gear, ask your kinmate to make one for you. again.. JOIN KIN. this is MMO.....

4. is pvp really important to you ? i've played this game over a year already, and have set foot on pvp only once and not even started any quest there. why ? i enjoy the pve content already. i don't need pvp. i work in an IT industry. dealing with difficult clients and competitors are pvp already...

the key to this game is joining kin, coz with kin you can have teamwork, with teamwork you can achieve many things fast, even when grinding the tp... You know what the Wonderpets say ? "What's gonna work ? Teamwork ! "

I'm inclined to agree with most of your points but after unlocking a couple of things with tp I'm happy with this game for now

I'd like the original poster to list ten things that he/she enjoyed about the game, to restore some balance to the Universe.
Your experience in Lotro must not have been all bad?

I guess you must care something for LOTRO or you wouldn't have bothered to start this Thread.
How about -Listing ten examples of how you would improve the game into a 'good MMO' ?

Originally Posted by gudin

1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.

It's ... free! You get what you pay for. There are no other MMOs that you can play completely for free at all levels that are as good as this one. Free-to-play here is essentially an unlimited/unrestricted trial.

You can earn points FOR FREE to buy off the limitations. Yes, it's grinding but it's up to the player to decide "play for free by grinding and being a cheapskate, or invest some money".

2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?

(it's spelled "you", "leveling", and "believe"; nitpicking maybe but it helps to have a language style that makes people take you seriously)

You can group up, but at lower levels there's not much call for it. The game is not so hard that you are mandated to group up; games that do that die quickly. And because you don't need to group this means that people will only do it when they want to. There is a drawback here I think with the player base, too many players have learned from other MMOs that leveling is boring and that nothing fun happens until you hit max levels. These players then treat leveling as a chore to get through as quickly as possible, they have no interest in slowing down which is what happens when you group up.

As a result Turbine has over time simplified a lot of grouping that used to exist in the game. However it is not all gone, and at all levels there are places where having two players can be a big help and isn't overkill. There are places where you need more players, especially starting at level 20. Then there's another instance or two every 10 levels.

3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.

Agreed. However this flaw exists in almost every MMO I have seen. The older an MMO gets the worse this problem, because you have amazingly wealthy high level players who will pay ridiculous prices to help out their low level alts.

However, you NEVER need to use the auction hall (that's how it's spelled, I think "auticon" is a sort of robot). You can get around in the game very well and very effectively with only quest rewards.

4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.

You can not be "godlike" by buying from the store. You can only get some advantages. If some player is dumb enough to buy all this stuff to save some effort, then great because this means Turbine gets more money and thus the game keeps going. The vast majority of players do not do this, there are some regular subscribers who never purchase anything in the store, and many premium players who just buy quest packs and a few extras.

There is not a competition here. It matters not at all if someone has purchased their advantages because it does not cause anyone else to lose. Even in player-vs-player no one who is a complete novice has been able to buy their way to being a top notch player, it always requires some experience and skill.

Finally, paying for a subscription as a VIP involves spending money. Yet people never call that "pay to win".

5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.

True. But this is standard in just so many MMOs out there. The more popular the MMO the worse the community.

This varies a lot between servers too, some are much better than other.

It also helps to liberally use /ignore.

6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.

Then don't do skirmishes. Some players love it and some players hate it. It would be unfair to remove skirmishes because some players hate it since it would ruin the game for those players who love them.

However except for a few places in the game these are not required. You can safely ignore them if you like. I dislike skirmishes myself, but I still occasionally do them because they are something to do when you're bored.

7.Combat is too fast for some classes

That's a new one... I often see many players complain that it's far too slow and feels sluggish. I have seen many players who just are lousy at the computer game thing, they move slowly in places with steep cliffs to avoid falling and so forth, and yet they make it to max level and even contribute in groups effectively. You don't need to be a twitchy player to play this game.

8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all

Yes and no. However given the tone of your other complaints I get the impression that you're just reaching for any old topic that you read about on the forums so that you can spread this out to 10 items.

9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.

Yes, monster play is an afterthought to the game. It might have been better altogether if it had never been added.

Why are you guys still answering? He is not gonna read any of your responses and if he would it wont cause anything.

In Soviet Russia LOTRO store pays YOU to win.

1 - The F2P in LotRO is really good if you put it next to others.

4 - you clearly no nothing about the store.

I can see some of your points if you are starting off for the first time, Im not going to flame you for that, however, I fail to see how this model is all that much diffrent from any MMO Ive ever played, the WAY you pay has changed, Probably the future of all games will be like this, it really should be FREE to TRY, more then f2p, SURE you "CAN" do most things by playing the game and a few people have done it, but its SO much easier to at least pay one months VIP price and unlock a ton of stuff, for 15 bucks its amazing what you get back in return.

BTW, they EXPANDED what you get F2P when they first started you only got the starter zones, they now give you lonelands. So you can get to lvl 32ish or so with f2p, thats not bad.

Your right on some of your points, but I disagree with others. Ive been playing MMO's since EQ1 days. You WANT A grind, shouldve played that game.. THERE was not quest exp, you had to camp mobs for hours and HOURS to get one level. By the time you got into your 50s, it would take 80-90 hours to get one level.. the play times were easily in the Months to get to level cap. Now that was a grind!

Meh, sure the AH can be overpriced, bear in mind most of this stuff isnt needed, get the BEST purple stuff you can find, especially weapons, if you are missing gaps, it wont matter much, the weapons are the most important, and anything with morale to start with, in fact the lvl 14 gear for jewelery has about as much morale as the stuff up to the 40s, get that , slot and forget it for awhile..

As the game advances further and further, the lower zones will become increasily easier and easier.. Even now, what took weeks to find groups to do , can all be solable, GLFF 1/6 looking for 2.4.7 or 2.5.5 ect ect.. Anybody? Anybody?

If your playing at highest peak times, late friday night, sat and sun, you will see a DRAMATIC increase of #s in glff (on my server, from around 150 to 250 at times) I would like to say all of those players are respectful , but thier not, at times I will report something if its overboard, I suggest you do the same.

Pvmp isnt balanced, its ok I guess, other games have better models, so your right there, but frankly , if your going to the moors with anything less then 75 , your wasting your time, if your playing creep side, ya, its not that fun when 1 class can basically kill a bunch of creeps by themselves. IT is what it is, sometimes you have fun, sometimes its just time to Log. It will never be great, becuase the model wont support that, bear in mind MOST other MMOs allow both sides to gear out then come, there is no gearing with the creeps, and the amount you can really change stuff around is miniscule, so there will ALWAYS be a unbalance factor. For a very brief time, post roi it was kind of fun, then they started adding more stuff to freeps and its back to needed a pack of creeps to kill most freeps.

Closing this thread, as I think what has been said is enough.