I'm glad I'm not you. Try to enjoy the game for what it is rather than just picking things to moan about!
1. It's free, you want a higher gold cap, spend some TP.
2. It's probably just you, no-one wants to group up with a moaner.
3. Actually prices are indicative of the in-game micro-economic climate. Turbine don't set prices, they are dictated by what people are willing to pay. Simple supply and demand.
4. Don't buy them then.
5. You'll fit right in then wont you. Can't believe you are troll-posting about trolls!
6. Skirmishes are cool if you get some big groups together. Oh hang on, see answer 2.
7. Not got a clue what this one is supposed to mean so I can't come up with any witty retort.
8. You aren't. You are probably sat in your bedroom wishing you had a girlfriend.
9. Stay away from it then. Lots of people find it great fun.
10. So is your post.
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2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
I'm afraid I can only agree with you on two points. However, try to enjoy the game for what it is.
Or simply turn to other MMOs which will satisfy your needs.
Apart from one or two points, this just seems to be someone crying over stuff that can really be ignored. AH prices...Supply and Demand, lets get use to it as its the same in every other MMO.
You complain about trolling and yet, your post seems to be one big "troll" post.
Feel free to leave, I doubt that we will miss you..
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
Incorrect. You can play the entire game for free, orif=viding you are willing to put in the effort. Pretty much everything is unlockable using currency earned through game-play. That said, a small investment of cash will make things much easier.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
The game is pretty solo-friendly. Group content starts around level 20. Judging by your post, there may be other reasons people didn't want to group with you.
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
Things sell for what people will pay. Apparently other players have no problems wth raising the necessary amounts of in-game gold.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
Nothing in the store is essential to play. Pay if you like, If not, don't. The game has to make some money somewhere!
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
Don't know what server you were on, but that is not my experience.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
I won't disagree with that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
Interesting. Some people complain it is too slow.
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
I would say the exact opposite.
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
This is not a PvP game. Monsterplay was tacked on as an afterthought, and it shows. If PvP is vitally mportant, this is not the game for you.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
I hope you have fun elsewhere. It doesn't sound as if you will miss us, and I doubt we will miss you.
1. There is no Ace of Aces
2. There is no Operation Wulf
3. There is no Giana Sisters
4. There is no Commando Lybia
5. There is no Inter Karete
6. There is no Inter Karate II
7. There is no Inter Karate II++
8. There is no Defender of the crown
9. There is no Ninja II
10. There is no C64/Amiga music in LOTRO!
someone is offering a completly unbiased view of the game
and he is right in evey point he mades (well, mybe except the comment about the AH)
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
someone is offering a completly unbiased view of the game
and he is right in evey point he mades (well, mybe except the comment about the AH)
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit. It's not as limited as you think. Furthermore, you cannot expect allot for FREE playing
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense. I agree, it is outrageous the prices & has nothing to do with players willing to pay. I am willing to bet there are many items that get put up for auction that dont sell because of the price. It all boils down to greedy players. No not all players are like this.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy. Sorry but there is nothing in the store that is pay to win. You can play this game just fine without spending a dime in the store.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that. I agree it is a grind & feel it should be a bit less
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all Cannot be too bad because it was allowed into the game
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
The store is p2w?! With turbine coins you can get ingame?!
You know that p2w is, when you purchase an Item in the store with real money and there is no way to buy it with TP.
THAT is P2W.
PAY to Win.
1. There is no Ace of Aces
2. There is no Operation Wulf
3. There is no Giana Sisters
4. There is no Commando Lybia
5. There is no Inter Karete
6. There is no Inter Karate II
7. There is no Inter Karate II++
8. There is no Defender of the crown
9. There is no Ninja II
10. There is no C64/Amiga music in LOTRO!
Have a nice day.
Nice trolling A+ Man is trying to be fair and gets bs response. Im glad that im leaving, enoy your time.
I don't think the word fair means what you think it does....
#5. I've got to say.... that I would do my part to heckle you in glff if you talked in game like your first post reads, especially since there's no point to being civil to someone that thinks anyone that disagrees with them is a troll. I am nice to new players and answer their questions, but you know, if they shoot first....
edit: What is MORE hilarious about my post is that I wrote it before I read the post above, BEFORE you called people a troll. So, I was right a priori. Sweet.
The store is p2w?! With turbine coins you can get ingame?!
You know that p2w is, when you purchase an Item in the store with real money and there is no way to buy it with TP.
THAT is P2W.
PAY to Win.
Finally someone who gets the concept of this. +rep to you
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
Since your "New" and your first post was just 5 days ago on the 18th, I am guessing you are either really good at evaluating an entire game in such a short time or your real account was banned on the 17th.
Either way, you clearly are not enjoying yourself so I wish you happiness in your new game.
Huh, interesting. Apparently you really can find the negative if you want it, whether or not it's really there. If a "fair" response is defined as "a response that agrees with me," as it seems to be, then no wonder 10 subjective opinions are stated as facts. In my opinion, LotRO is dang impressive, but to each his own... Now, back to having fun with my f2p 75!
You make some valid points (store stucks, everyone knows that, and pvp is only an afterthought) but the rest... what other MMOs have you played? Trolling in GLFF? Son, you ain't seen Barrens chat lol.
I don't think the word fair means what you think it does....
#5. I've got to say.... that I would do my part to heckle you in glff if you talked in game like your first post reads, especially since there's no point to being civil to someone that thinks anyone that disagrees with them is a troll. I am nice to new players and answer their questions, but you know, if they shoot first....
edit: What is MORE hilarious about my post is that I wrote it before I read the post above, BEFORE you called people a troll. So, I was right a priori. Sweet.
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
Expectations are a fickle thing...
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
Then pay to have the gold cap removed and more areas opened up to you.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
Perhaps there's a time where one should look inward to a reason someone may not want to party with you. Other than that, it's generally a common thing in a lot of MMOs and not singular to just LOTRO.
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
That's not the game, that's the players.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
Still nothing in the store required. Still nothing really in the store will make you a better player. You may have slightly higher stats than someone else, but that won't magically make you play the game any better.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
Again, not the game...that's all players. Funny enough is how you deride the users when you, in fact, are doing equal amounts.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
Skirmishes are meant to be linear re-playable instances...can't honestly fault them for being what they were advertised to be...it's also an alternate way to advance your characters.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
I honestly have never seen a person really complain about combat being too fast...so yea, I don't see this being the fault of the game.
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
Very few places don't actually appear to how they were described from Tolkien's writings. As someone who has followed the Lore of this game for a couple decades now, I fail to see too much in the realm of lore breaking.
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
It was also a literal tack-on job to appease a subset of gamers. It wasn't even going to be in the game in the first place, and what Turbine scrounged together is, well, a good offering considering the lore...and since you decry Turbine about the 'lore breaks', I would think that you'd be happy that they created a way to PvP while still falling in the realm of the Lore.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
I don't speak of balance, because in PvP it is never a possibility to have balance, but I like the adjectives used here, as it doesn't actually tell anyone anything.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
For such a waste of time you sure did give it a rather 'lengthy' opinion. Of course, half of those are chalked up to players and you'll find in anything connected to the Internet, but we'll overlook that.
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Thank you, thank you. I'll be at your local (Landroval) glff when my act is on, passing a tin cup around for donations. Remember, 2 drink minimum.
I read through this thread, and well I could not believe what I saw, this thread is so off topic it's almost insane.
I can understand the OP has some frustrations about the game, the format in which he decided to make this complaint however was not very well chosen, list 10 things you hate about a game, some legitimate, some taken completley out of the blue sky, is never really a good way to start a discussion on anything except if you are on TV and you are the host of american idol or something.
But to see how people decided to gang up on this guy is well, rather disappointing, a lot of people cry troll by trolling around a little themselves and well as I said it made me sad to read this, everyone has lost a little here really.
I do hope the OP will find a game he enjoys a bit more than he did LOTRO, but I will say you defo could have found a better way to communicate your displeasure with the game than you did, but that does not justify some of the responces made to your comment in any way, however you also decided to go after some cheap shots at some point, so well yeah, not much else to say, thead done really.
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Well, it's not what he said, it's how he said it. I've seen several threads over the years written in an intelligent manner explaining why someone did not care for the game.
The OPs message was basically "this game sucks and you are a bunch of losers". I think he deserved to get jumped on.
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To some topics I can agree to a certain extent. PvMP is suboptimal at the moment. Other points I can't follow. The game is not longer "pay to win". Since the launch of F2P this changed entirely. In former times you had to pay for an active subscription before you could win even against level 1 frogs or snakes. Now you can win without spending money. Even if you buy out the whole shop you will still fail in many instances due to the lack of player's skill.
Prices in AH in many MMORPG's are insane. It is not specific for this game. There is not much need to buy items from AH.
LOTRO has a very nice F2P system. You are able to reach nearly everything without spending money. You are even not dependent on other people spending money for you like in ROM. You can earn your TP without disturbance by gold sellers or cartels of paying players.
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
I'll attempt to give a reasonable reply in this thread
1. Some perspective: Before F2P you either paid a monthly sub or got no access whatsoever. Now, you can literally play for free up to level 75. Try doing that with WOW . For 1 month subscription to VIP or approx $15 US it will unlock all gold caps, swift travel restrictions, etc (many posts on that). Given the state of many other MMOs, this is a great deal. Cheaper than a 2 hour movie and popcorn.
2. I agree sometimes getting groups can be tough at lower levels. I'd recommend joining a friendly kin.
3. Auction hall - completely optional. Folks get to decide what to buy so you vote with your virtual gold what is worth paying. The flip side is to find some rare materials, and sell them for an exorbitant price.
4. Nothing in store is necessary. I very very rarely buy anything and I'm doing just fine.
5. glff. Ignore is your friend. Or if chatter is too much, you can change your filters to temporarily turn it off, then turn in on when you need to broadcast for a group.
6. Skirmish. Again completely optional (except for some book quests later on). You'll level faster by questing.
7. Which classes in particular. Nothing is forcing you to play a high DPS class. Go with warden or captain and kill slowly for a long time
8. Some have complained about this, but in general I love the feel of the game.
9. I've played for almost 3 years while setting foot in PvMP about oh 3 times. Completely optional content if it is not your thing.
10. Again, totally optional. Don't do it if it bugs you.
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play -... Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
My 67 hntr is maxed out & store bought r5 stats & r12 virts, but believe me... he is hardly god like. devs see to it quite well.
suggestion for you; Go f2p to vip.
I pay to play to have fun and make muny for those who bring me this wonderfully beautiful MMO that it will continue and out live me.
P.S. Ty Shammwoww. I couldn't bring myself to take the time. I wish we could post something like your response on the gates to ME.
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OP complains about the store as a greedy 'p2w' system; but I would just remind folks that playing a game for free and expecting everything is greedy too. We gamers should expect to pay something for the games we enjoy.
Personally, I like the micro transaction model better than subscriptions myself. I started f2p but immediately dropped 20 bucks to get a mount, a few extra bags, and to remove my gold cap. Even if I only played this game a month or two that was money well spent to me; and a more than fair deal from Turbine in exchange for all the fun I've had so far.
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
Half of the things you say depends on the server you're playing.
Also, Lotro is ranked 3rd on MMORPG.COM behind Rift and GW2 (but that isnt out yet so theyre actually 2nd)
Which means LOTRO is the best non-subscription game in the world, so apparently, not everyone shares your thought.
Also, the vast majority of the players just love Tolkien or LOTR. Its the story, the atmosphere, which makes this game so epic. If you're looking for a empty-headed lvling game, so play WOW or one of the thousand Asian MMO's which are all the same and pointless in infinity.
i started playing lotro (f2p) a year ago thinking i would spend only a month playing it! i think the f2p mechanic is very reasonable, your always earning tp; 10 tp here 5 there.tp starts to accumulate fast as you hit lvl50+ . im f2p and spend 6-12 euros a month on tp bundles and buy xpacs or quests packs every three months. lotro is pure quality and a joy to play.
someone is offering a completly unbiased view of the game
and he is right in evey point he mades (well, mybe except the comment about the AH)
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
be fair
greetz
kinda curious... suppose turbine got rid of the Lotro store.. what would happen to their income? servers go down.. can't pay employees.. lotro disappears? i guess thats what people want though from the sounds of it every.... f2p MMO (aside from Runescape) has a store like lotro.. you wanna play a P2W game go play Runes of Magic... that game is absolutely.................... ....... ridiculous to even be anything period... you have to drop a minimum of 100 bucks in the store to even be anything decent, and the graphics are beyond horrible(square looking).. and yet its a FREE 2 PLAY game. lotro is fine!
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