I'm glad I'm not you. Try to enjoy the game for what it is rather than just picking things to moan about!
1. It's free, you want a higher gold cap, spend some TP.
2. It's probably just you, no-one wants to group up with a moaner.
3. Actually prices are indicative of the in-game micro-economic climate. Turbine don't set prices, they are dictated by what people are willing to pay. Simple supply and demand.
4. Don't buy them then.
5. You'll fit right in then wont you. Can't believe you are troll-posting about trolls!
6. Skirmishes are cool if you get some big groups together. Oh hang on, see answer 2.
7. Not got a clue what this one is supposed to mean so I can't come up with any witty retort.
8. You aren't. You are probably sat in your bedroom wishing you had a girlfriend.
9. Stay away from it then. Lots of people find it great fun.
10. So is your post.
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Lose = To suffer defeat or fail to win.
Loose = Not tight or released from a fastening or attachment.
1. There is no Ace of Aces
2. There is no Operation Wulf
3. There is no Giana Sisters
4. There is no Commando Lybia
5. There is no Inter Karete
6. There is no Inter Karate II
7. There is no Inter Karate II++
8. There is no Defender of the crown
9. There is no Ninja II
10. There is no C64/Amiga music in LOTRO!
someone is offering a completly unbiased view of the game
and he is right in evey point he mades (well, mybe except the comment about the AH)
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
someone is offering a completly unbiased view of the game
and he is right in evey point he mades (well, mybe except the comment about the AH)
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
The store is p2w?! With turbine coins you can get ingame?!
You know that p2w is, when you purchase an Item in the store with real money and there is no way to buy it with TP.
THAT is P2W.
PAY to Win.
someone is offering a completly unbiased view of the game
and he is right in evey point he mades (well, mybe except the comment about the AH)
the store is pure p2w and greedy, skirmishes are nothing then grind, pvp is the least attractive
of all mmos ... and yes, combat is too fast for some classes ...
be fair
greetz
kinda curious... suppose turbine got rid of the Lotro store.. what would happen to their income? servers go down.. can't pay employees.. lotro disappears? i guess thats what people want though from the sounds of it every.... f2p MMO (aside from Runescape) has a store like lotro.. you wanna play a P2W game go play Runes of Magic... that game is absolutely.................... ....... ridiculous to even be anything period... you have to drop a minimum of 100 bucks in the store to even be anything decent, and the graphics are beyond horrible(square looking).. and yet its a FREE 2 PLAY game. lotro is fine!
1. There is no Ace of Aces
2. There is no Operation Wulf
3. There is no Giana Sisters
4. There is no Commando Lybia
5. There is no Inter Karete
6. There is no Inter Karate II
7. There is no Inter Karate II++
8. There is no Defender of the crown
9. There is no Ninja II
10. There is no C64/Amiga music in LOTRO!
Have a nice day.
Nice trolling A+ Man is trying to be fair and gets bs response. Im glad that im leaving, enoy your time.
Huh, interesting. Apparently you really can find the negative if you want it, whether or not it's really there. If a "fair" response is defined as "a response that agrees with me," as it seems to be, then no wonder 10 subjective opinions are stated as facts. In my opinion, LotRO is dang impressive, but to each his own... Now, back to having fun with my f2p 75!
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
I'm afraid I can only agree with you on two points. However, try to enjoy the game for what it is.
Or simply turn to other MMOs which will satisfy your needs.
Apart from one or two points, this just seems to be someone crying over stuff that can really be ignored. AH prices...Supply and Demand, lets get use to it as its the same in every other MMO.
You complain about trolling and yet, your post seems to be one big "troll" post.
Feel free to leave, I doubt that we will miss you..
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
Incorrect. You can play the entire game for free, orif=viding you are willing to put in the effort. Pretty much everything is unlockable using currency earned through game-play. That said, a small investment of cash will make things much easier.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
The game is pretty solo-friendly. Group content starts around level 20. Judging by your post, there may be other reasons people didn't want to group with you.
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
Things sell for what people will pay. Apparently other players have no problems wth raising the necessary amounts of in-game gold.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
Nothing in the store is essential to play. Pay if you like, If not, don't. The game has to make some money somewhere!
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
Don't know what server you were on, but that is not my experience.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
I won't disagree with that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
Interesting. Some people complain it is too slow.
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
I would say the exact opposite.
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
This is not a PvP game. Monsterplay was tacked on as an afterthought, and it shows. If PvP is vitally mportant, this is not the game for you.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
I hope you have fun elsewhere. It doesn't sound as if you will miss us, and I doubt we will miss you.
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit. It's not as limited as you think. Furthermore, you cannot expect allot for FREE playing
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense. I agree, it is outrageous the prices & has nothing to do with players willing to pay. I am willing to bet there are many items that get put up for auction that dont sell because of the price. It all boils down to greedy players. No not all players are like this.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy. Sorry but there is nothing in the store that is pay to win. You can play this game just fine without spending a dime in the store.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that. I agree it is a grind & feel it should be a bit less
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all Cannot be too bad because it was allowed into the game
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
Since your "New" and your first post was just 5 days ago on the 18th, I am guessing you are either really good at evaluating an entire game in such a short time or your real account was banned on the 17th.
Either way, you clearly are not enjoying yourself so I wish you happiness in your new game.
You make some valid points (store stucks, everyone knows that, and pvp is only an afterthought) but the rest... what other MMOs have you played? Trolling in GLFF? Son, you ain't seen Barrens chat lol.
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
Expectations are a fickle thing...
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
Then pay to have the gold cap removed and more areas opened up to you.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
Perhaps there's a time where one should look inward to a reason someone may not want to party with you. Other than that, it's generally a common thing in a lot of MMOs and not singular to just LOTRO.
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
That's not the game, that's the players.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
Still nothing in the store required. Still nothing really in the store will make you a better player. You may have slightly higher stats than someone else, but that won't magically make you play the game any better.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
Again, not the game...that's all players. Funny enough is how you deride the users when you, in fact, are doing equal amounts.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
Skirmishes are meant to be linear re-playable instances...can't honestly fault them for being what they were advertised to be...it's also an alternate way to advance your characters.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
I honestly have never seen a person really complain about combat being too fast...so yea, I don't see this being the fault of the game.
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
Very few places don't actually appear to how they were described from Tolkien's writings. As someone who has followed the Lore of this game for a couple decades now, I fail to see too much in the realm of lore breaking.
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
It was also a literal tack-on job to appease a subset of gamers. It wasn't even going to be in the game in the first place, and what Turbine scrounged together is, well, a good offering considering the lore...and since you decry Turbine about the 'lore breaks', I would think that you'd be happy that they created a way to PvP while still falling in the realm of the Lore.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
I don't speak of balance, because in PvP it is never a possibility to have balance, but I like the adjectives used here, as it doesn't actually tell anyone anything.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
For such a waste of time you sure did give it a rather 'lengthy' opinion. Of course, half of those are chalked up to players and you'll find in anything connected to the Internet, but we'll overlook that.
Give a guy a pound of gold...he'll complain about how heavy it is. Enmity of Forum Trolls: 106/5000Of the Egaads clan
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
I'll attempt to give a reasonable reply in this thread
1. Some perspective: Before F2P you either paid a monthly sub or got no access whatsoever. Now, you can literally play for free up to level 75. Try doing that with WOW . For 1 month subscription to VIP or approx $15 US it will unlock all gold caps, swift travel restrictions, etc (many posts on that). Given the state of many other MMOs, this is a great deal. Cheaper than a 2 hour movie and popcorn.
2. I agree sometimes getting groups can be tough at lower levels. I'd recommend joining a friendly kin.
3. Auction hall - completely optional. Folks get to decide what to buy so you vote with your virtual gold what is worth paying. The flip side is to find some rare materials, and sell them for an exorbitant price.
4. Nothing in store is necessary. I very very rarely buy anything and I'm doing just fine.
5. glff. Ignore is your friend. Or if chatter is too much, you can change your filters to temporarily turn it off, then turn in on when you need to broadcast for a group.
6. Skirmish. Again completely optional (except for some book quests later on). You'll level faster by questing.
7. Which classes in particular. Nothing is forcing you to play a high DPS class. Go with warden or captain and kill slowly for a long time
8. Some have complained about this, but in general I love the feel of the game.
9. I've played for almost 3 years while setting foot in PvMP about oh 3 times. Completely optional content if it is not your thing.
10. Again, totally optional. Don't do it if it bugs you.
I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play -... Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
My 67 hntr is maxed out & store bought r5 stats & r12 virts, but believe me... he is hardly god like. devs see to it quite well.
suggestion for you; Go f2p to vip.
I pay to play to have fun and make muny for those who bring me this wonderfully beautiful MMO that it will continue and out live me.
P.S. Ty Shammwoww. I couldn't bring myself to take the time. I wish we could post something like your response on the gates to ME.
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I had high excpetation for this MMO , but sadly i was very disappointed.
My view on LOTRO why is suck:
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Feel free to complain or anything... such a waste of time.
Half of the things you say depends on the server you're playing.
Also, Lotro is ranked 3rd on MMORPG.COM behind Rift and GW2 (but that isnt out yet so theyre actually 2nd)
Which means LOTRO is the best non-subscription game in the world, so apparently, not everyone shares your thought.
Also, the vast majority of the players just love Tolkien or LOTR. Its the story, the atmosphere, which makes this game so epic. If you're looking for a empty-headed lvling game, so play WOW or one of the thousand Asian MMO's which are all the same and pointless in infinity.
i started playing lotro (f2p) a year ago thinking i would spend only a month playing it! i think the f2p mechanic is very reasonable, your always earning tp; 10 tp here 5 there.tp starts to accumulate fast as you hit lvl50+ . im f2p and spend 6-12 euros a month on tp bundles and buy xpacs or quests packs every three months. lotro is pure quality and a joy to play.
Half of the things you say depends on the server you're playing.
Also, Lotro is ranked 3rd on MMORPG.COM behind Rift and GW2 (but that isnt out yet so theyre actually 2nd)
Which means LOTRO is the best non-subscription game in the world, so apparently, not everyone shares your thought.
Also, the vast majority of the players just love Tolkien or LOTR. Its the story, the atmosphere, which makes this game so epic. If you're looking for a empty-headed lvling game, so play WOW or one of the thousand Asian MMO's which are all the same and pointless in infinity.
Goodbye.
exactly.. as i said in my post go play Runes of Magic if anyone wants a pointless VERY VERY expensive F2P asian mmo
i agree Lotro is very nice and i like it.. i quit WoW to play this game and i don't rly miss WoW much.. (maybe some pvp)
1. spend some coins or grind the tp in game. there's no such thing as free lunch. there is no external advertiser in the game for turbine to make money. you don't see Coca-Cola or KFC advertisement on trees in lotro. the developer need money to maintain servers and develop new content for YOU to enjoy. that's why subscription and lotro store is there. get real !
2. you complain about difficulty in finding group. well i guess it depends on the server actually. some servers are very end-game concentrated you rarely see lowbie in starter towns. like others have suggested, GET YOURSELF SOME FRIENDS... join kin.
3. you complain about price in AH being very high. i wonder why would a lowbie like you would want to buy something in AH anyway ? just use the monster drop or quest reward gear. they are sufficient. if you really desperate for new gear, ask your kinmate to make one for you. again.. JOIN KIN. this is MMO.....
4. is pvp really important to you ? i've played this game over a year already, and have set foot on pvp only once and not even started any quest there. why ? i enjoy the pve content already. i don't need pvp. i work in an IT industry. dealing with difficult clients and competitors are pvp already...
the key to this game is joining kin, coz with kin you can have teamwork, with teamwork you can achieve many things fast, even when grinding the tp... You know what the Wonderpets say ? "What's gonna work ? Teamwork ! "
1. Free to play - its very very limited u got couple of zones with 2 gold limit.
It's ... free! You get what you pay for. There are no other MMOs that you can play completely for free at all levels that are as good as this one. Free-to-play here is essentially an unlimited/unrestricted trial.
You can earn points FOR FREE to buy off the limitations. Yes, it's grinding but it's up to the player to decide "play for free by grinding and being a cheapskate, or invest some money".
2. Few wants to group up with u, i was trying to find group for better levleing, belive it or not all solo... whats the point then?
(it's spelled "you", "leveling", and "believe"; nitpicking maybe but it helps to have a language style that makes people take you seriously)
You can group up, but at lower levels there's not much call for it. The game is not so hard that you are mandated to group up; games that do that die quickly. And because you don't need to group this means that people will only do it when they want to. There is a drawback here I think with the player base, too many players have learned from other MMOs that leveling is boring and that nothing fun happens until you hit max levels. These players then treat leveling as a chore to get through as quickly as possible, they have no interest in slowing down which is what happens when you group up.
As a result Turbine has over time simplified a lot of grouping that used to exist in the game. However it is not all gone, and at all levels there are places where having two players can be a big help and isn't overkill. There are places where you need more players, especially starting at level 20. Then there's another instance or two every 10 levels.
3.Auticon hall - completly ridicioulous and insane prices , esp for low levle players. doesnt make sense.
Agreed. However this flaw exists in almost every MMO I have seen. The older an MMO gets the worse this problem, because you have amazingly wealthy high level players who will pay ridiculous prices to help out their low level alts.
However, you NEVER need to use the auction hall (that's how it's spelled, I think "auticon" is a sort of robot). You can get around in the game very well and very effectively with only quest rewards.
4.STORE- u can buy armor, perks, all buffs, virtues, various upgrades, make u char god like - Pay to win is disugsting and greedy.
You can not be "godlike" by buying from the store. You can only get some advantages. If some player is dumb enough to buy all this stuff to save some effort, then great because this means Turbine gets more money and thus the game keeps going. The vast majority of players do not do this, there are some regular subscribers who never purchase anything in the store, and many premium players who just buy quest packs and a few extras.
There is not a competition here. It matters not at all if someone has purchased their advantages because it does not cause anyone else to lose. Even in player-vs-player no one who is a complete novice has been able to buy their way to being a top notch player, it always requires some experience and skill.
Finally, paying for a subscription as a VIP involves spending money. Yet people never call that "pay to win".
5.Globalff - never saw so many troling and stupidity like int here.
True. But this is standard in just so many MMOs out there. The more popular the MMO the worse the community.
This varies a lot between servers too, some are much better than other.
It also helps to liberally use /ignore.
6.Skirmish - super grind , which becomes boring very quickyl soon.Same area, kill this, kill that.
Then don't do skirmishes. Some players love it and some players hate it. It would be unfair to remove skirmishes because some players hate it since it would ruin the game for those players who love them.
However except for a few places in the game these are not required. You can safely ignore them if you like. I dislike skirmishes myself, but I still occasionally do them because they are something to do when you're bored.
7.Combat is too fast for some classes
That's a new one... I often see many players complain that it's far too slow and feels sluggish. I have seen many players who just are lousy at the computer game thing, they move slowly in places with steep cliffs to avoid falling and so forth, and yet they make it to max level and even contribute in groups effectively. You don't need to be a twitchy player to play this game.
8.LORE breaking , in same places i got feeling im not inMiddle-earth at all
Yes and no. However given the tone of your other complaints I get the impression that you're just reaching for any old topic that you read about on the forums so that you can spread this out to 10 items.
9.Monster play area is porrly designed with limited options and action pretty much in same place.
10.PVP overall is worst i ever seen. Complete rubbish , unbalanced and very anoying.
Yes, monster play is an afterthought to the game. It might have been better altogether if it had never been added.
I can see some of your points if you are starting off for the first time, Im not going to flame you for that, however, I fail to see how this model is all that much diffrent from any MMO Ive ever played, the WAY you pay has changed, Probably the future of all games will be like this, it really should be FREE to TRY, more then f2p, SURE you "CAN" do most things by playing the game and a few people have done it, but its SO much easier to at least pay one months VIP price and unlock a ton of stuff, for 15 bucks its amazing what you get back in return.
BTW, they EXPANDED what you get F2P when they first started you only got the starter zones, they now give you lonelands. So you can get to lvl 32ish or so with f2p, thats not bad.
Your right on some of your points, but I disagree with others. Ive been playing MMO's since EQ1 days. You WANT A grind, shouldve played that game.. THERE was not quest exp, you had to camp mobs for hours and HOURS to get one level. By the time you got into your 50s, it would take 80-90 hours to get one level.. the play times were easily in the Months to get to level cap. Now that was a grind!
Meh, sure the AH can be overpriced, bear in mind most of this stuff isnt needed, get the BEST purple stuff you can find, especially weapons, if you are missing gaps, it wont matter much, the weapons are the most important, and anything with morale to start with, in fact the lvl 14 gear for jewelery has about as much morale as the stuff up to the 40s, get that , slot and forget it for awhile..
As the game advances further and further, the lower zones will become increasily easier and easier.. Even now, what took weeks to find groups to do , can all be solable, GLFF 1/6 looking for 2.4.7 or 2.5.5 ect ect.. Anybody? Anybody?
If your playing at highest peak times, late friday night, sat and sun, you will see a DRAMATIC increase of #s in glff (on my server, from around 150 to 250 at times) I would like to say all of those players are respectful , but thier not, at times I will report something if its overboard, I suggest you do the same.
Pvmp isnt balanced, its ok I guess, other games have better models, so your right there, but frankly , if your going to the moors with anything less then 75 , your wasting your time, if your playing creep side, ya, its not that fun when 1 class can basically kill a bunch of creeps by themselves. IT is what it is, sometimes you have fun, sometimes its just time to Log. It will never be great, becuase the model wont support that, bear in mind MOST other MMOs allow both sides to gear out then come, there is no gearing with the creeps, and the amount you can really change stuff around is miniscule, so there will ALWAYS be a unbalance factor. For a very brief time, post roi it was kind of fun, then they started adding more stuff to freeps and its back to needed a pack of creeps to kill most freeps.
Closing this thread, as I think what has been said is enough.
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every.... f2p MMO (aside from Runescape) has a store like lotro.. you wanna play a P2W game go play Runes of Magic... that game is absolutely.................... ....... ridiculous to even be anything period... you have to drop a minimum of 100 bucks in the store to even be anything decent, and the graphics are beyond horrible(square looking).. and yet its a FREE 2 PLAY game. lotro is fine!
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