Thread: Best of/Worst of Gladden

Originally Posted by Lathius

The dps on creep side is much lower than freep.

Yet the morale pool on creep side is much higher than freep.


Go figure.

Originally Posted by Althorion

Yet the morale pool on creep side is much higher than freep.


Go figure.

Lets face it Althorr, you will never defeat us pro creeps

Originally Posted by Witch0King

Lets face it Althorr, you will never defeat us pro creeps

I prefer realist. I have played almost exclusively freep since the expansion. I do not know how big of an impact the promotions are going to be for freep side, but if they make a substantial impact then it is likely to shift the balance in favor of freeps.

Originally Posted by Lathius

The question will now be if the pendulum will swing too far. The dps on creep side is much lower than freep.

Depends on how you slot and how squishy you're willing to be.

Originally Posted by Tuin

Depends on how you slot and how squishy you're willing to be.

Battlefield Promotion on a R15 freep = +20% morale/power and +15% dps.
Battlefield Promotion on a R11 freep = +14% morale/power and +10% dps.

Using the same gear as the live game (no new beta gear and same 2nd ages li) Mellar cam jump a R15 defiler and killed him fast (2 ops buff, red traited, burnhot and all cds on). The defiler died as fast a low rank defiler in live server.

Not sure it will be like that in live, but something changed and it I don't think it was the battlefield promotion that made that defiler die fast. My best quest is the new critical defense thing, that require creeps to use corruptions to get more critical defense.

We will only know for sure when a few weeks after U10 launches, but I think dps creep classes will die faster or dps less and support creep classes will be harder to kill (since I think it will be easier for them to use corruptions to increase critical defense).

I might be talking rubbish, since I don't have much experience on creep side.

Originally Posted by Tchad

Battlefield Promotion on a R15 freep = +20% morale/power and +15% dps.
Battlefield Promotion on a R11 freep = +14% morale/power and +10% dps.

Using the same gear as the live game (no new beta gear and same 2nd ages li) Mellar cam jump a R15 defiler and killed him fast (2 ops buff, red traited, burnhot and all cds on). The defiler died as fast a low rank defiler in live server.

Not sure it will be like that in live, but something changed and it I don't think it was the battlefield promotion that made that defiler die fast. My best quest is the new critical defense thing, that require creeps to use corruptions to get more critical defense.

We will only know for sure when a few weeks after U10 launches, but I think dps creep classes will die faster or dps less and support creep classes will be harder to kill (since I think it will be easier for them to use corruptions to increase critical defense).

I might be talking rubbish, since I don't have much experience on creep side.

Wow, a rank 15 defiler dead in a few seconds? I am sensing that the freeps are starting to become RoI-ish, with creeps' reduced crit defence and the freeps' increased DPS with Battlefield Promotion (which is high already). Turbine needs to take a closer look at this. It's not right to increase freep DPS that's already insane.

Originally Posted by Tchad

Battlefield Promotion on a R15 freep = +20% morale/power and +15% dps.
Battlefield Promotion on a R11 freep = +14% morale/power and +10% dps.

Using the same gear as the live game (no new beta gear and same 2nd ages li) Mellar cam jump a R15 defiler and killed him fast (2 ops buff, red traited, burnhot and all cds on). The defiler died as fast a low rank defiler in live server.

Not sure it will be like that in live, but something changed and it I don't think it was the battlefield promotion that made that defiler die fast. My best quest is the new critical defense thing, that require creeps to use corruptions to get more critical defense.

We will only know for sure when a few weeks after U10 launches, but I think dps creep classes will die faster or dps less and support creep classes will be harder to kill (since I think it will be easier for them to use corruptions to increase critical defense).

I might be talking rubbish, since I don't have much experience on creep side.

I call bs. I don't see a r15 defiler melting that quickly. He was either an idiot or didnt' have any audacity. Did you encounter this on more than one defiler? Or is your test sample only this one defiler?

Originally Posted by Ravyrn

I call bs. I don't see a r15 defiler melting that quickly. He was either an idiot or didnt' have any audacity. Did you encounter this on more than one defiler? Or is your test sample only this one defiler?

Nonsense, my defiler goes down in less than 5 sec, remember?

Originally Posted by Ravyrn

I call bs. I don't see a r15 defiler melting that quickly. He was either an idiot or didnt' have any audacity. Did you encounter this on more than one defiler? Or is your test sample only this one defiler?

I did more tests, now with with a 1st age bow. Although it was not as fast as my first test, other defilers are still going down faster.

I played a bit on BR. The R15 defilers were going down faster but not as quickly as a greenie. Honestly I've only seen improvements to pvmp balance. Even with large power pools flies still hurt but are no longer the make or break factor they are currently. Hunters still melt but can actually dps like they used to (R15 Promotions) and my fiancée melted a R15 17k morale reaver in 5 seconds. Creeps are going to complain about this but they have to remember that all tests right now are at R15, a massive increase compared to the average freep.

So I've won best guardian, right? Seeing as im the only one out regularly.

Iam the best defiler just ask althor i make him run everyday as soon as he sees me

Originally Posted by creeperz

Iam the best defiler just ask althor i make him run everyday as soon as he sees me

Is he running from your epic defiler dps or from your flies?

Originally Posted by creeperz

Iam the best defiler just ask althor i make him run everyday as soon as he sees me

Originally Posted by chekersftw

Is he running from your epic defiler dps or from your flies?

It's the flies.


He's just jelly he can't be as awesome as me, and mad cuz I ruined his lil groups party flippin' an op yesterday.



I'll give him one thing....he's the fastest defiler to pop flies before his health even drops 1k. Never seen anything like it......


Then again, it would be curious to know which of the other skills/traits that are above his rank that he has.








Healz, tell you what...you wanted to 1v yesterday to show how terribad I was yes?


I accept.


Provided you don't use any of these skills, and or have any of these traits slotted..........

• Blessing Of Darkness
• Frugal Cursing
• Blight/Enhanced Blight
• Flayer Of Flesh
• Tireless Warrior
• Explosive Gourd
• Gooey Gourd
• Enhanced Plague Of Flies

Oh, and of course Dying Rage.


So yeah, bring your meanie rk 8 best Defiler with no store stuff and i'll do the same, and we can bang.


No store buffs/pots/skills/traits/brands etc.


Cool?


If you beat me, i'll delete a lvl 25? champ I have by the same name on another server

Lol, is the "best hunter" afraid of some traits ?

You know, maybe the defiler should just use his straff strike to even it up around your basic skill level

Originally Posted by Althorion

It's the flies.


He's just jelly he can't be as awesome as me, and mad cuz I ruined his lil groups party flippin' an op yesterday.



I'll give him one thing....he's the fastest defiler to pop flies before his health even drops 1k. Never seen anything like it......


Then again, it would be curious to know which of the other skills/traits that are above his rank that he has.








Healz, tell you what...you wanted to 1v yesterday to show how terribad I was yes?


I accept.


Provided you don't use any of these skills, and or have any of these traits slotted..........

• Blessing Of Darkness
• Frugal Cursing
• Blight/Enhanced Blight
• Flayer Of Flesh
• Tireless Warrior
• Explosive Gourd
• Gooey Gourd
• Enhanced Plague Of Flies

Oh, and of course Dying Rage.


So yeah, bring your meanie rk 8 best Defiler with no store stuff and i'll do the same, and we can bang.


No store buffs/pots/skills/traits/brands etc.


Cool?


If you beat me, i'll delete a lvl 25? champ I have by the same name on another server

In that case, all Freeps shouldn't use any of their effective skills until they PvP non-stop for 5 years, which could get them close to rank 15. If that's what creeps have to do, then surely freeps must do the same to make it balanced, right?

Tell you what i will fight you and solimli at the same time plus i will give you all ops let you use your store buffs and i wont use my flies come on that's fair now i know one thing i will still win anyway i must go and play my op defiler

Originally Posted by creeperz

Tell you what i will fight you and solimli at the same time plus i will give you all ops let you use your store buffs and i wont use my flies come on that's fair now i know one thing i will still win anyway i must go and play my op defiler

The only thing I will agree to is a 1v with no store anything.


How is that not fair?


Me vs you with no store involved.


I'll bring everything I have "earned" wth no ehancements or outside influence.


You do the same.


Can't get any more basic and real than that.

sure sounds good you are logged on both sides anyway so send me a tell when ever you are ready and we can meet somewhere

Originally Posted by creeperz

Tell you what i will fight you and solimli at the same time plus i will give you all ops let you use your store buffs and i wont use my flies come on that's fair now i know one thing i will still win anyway i must go and play my op defiler

I really don't see how a 1v2 like that could end in anything other then a draw (unless Althorr has the incoming healing debuff armour set) simply because of how easy it would be to heal through your dps, and how easy it is to keep my power up when I don't have flies draining me.

i love me some rules in my pvp

Originally Posted by DrunkshipOfLanterns

i love me some rules in my pvp

Rules suck. Kill 'em all.

althorr i will love to 1v1 u, Me vs you with no store involved.
no moral\power\stun pots no CD'S

Originally Posted by gingibuff

althorr i will love to 1v1 u, Me vs you with no store involved.
no moral\power\stun pots no CD'S

Wait a minute...... THAT SIG IS FAKE!

Originally Posted by gingibuff

althorr i will love to 1v1 u, Me vs you with no store involved.
no moral\power\stun pots no CD'S

begone impersonater, or we shall burn you at the stake.

Me>you...............yes you.

The Best of Gladden IMO. Hi Runloft here, There are a lot of good players that are out there but here are my choices for my personal view of the best players in the Moors. These are either fought against, grouped with, or both.
H.M. = Honorable Mention (either never grouped with or fought against or havent seen for a little while)

Freep: Burglar- Clevinger, Debuff , Gwendalynn (H.M.) Push, Asteris
Captains- Davil, Roman, Thebilldozer (H.M.) Hailstone, Aristeides
Campions- Lathius, Dumegrant, Fenore (H.M.) Tarvin, Gavriel
Guardians- Doomwarrior, Eothaine, Roofwarrior (H.M) Clockknock, Nembet
Hunters- Viceras, Swifteagle, Triplekill (H.M.) Spwit, Melicki
Lore-masters- Cluemein, Eldreith, Kenhelm ( H.M.) Sowen
Minstrels- Shovo, Midi, Erilen, (H.M.) Clown, Nirrti
Rune-Keepers- Keldarah, Eskemo, Malimshair (H.M.) Rechora, Headaran
Wardens- Chiknorris, Drukarth (H.M.) Elijahtook


Creep: Blackarrows- Bagbalm, Westmiss, Grogug (H.M.) Sloweagle
Defilers- Poppies, Grogog, Lobsnakh (H.M.) Sideshow, Reddmedic
Reavers- Eunuch, Ronnug, Raizo (H.M.) Deathmarch, Gashr
Stalkers- Dolcarak, Wolfgash, Morsum, Furrinmymouth, Whee (H.M.) Lugsteal, Polin
Warleaders- Merrsa, Vurgash, Essigdush (H.M.) Chaosist, Urukhaithere
Weavers- Reddweaver, Lothuilas, Spiderbyte (H.M.) Cojiro, Queany

Stumbled across this feller in glff.

Originally Posted by Monkeylad

Stumbled across this feller in glff.

Ok that was +repped i bout peed myself laughing. More of these please?

Originally Posted by Monkeylad

Stumbled across this feller in glff.

Of course there are a couple more options..........round up a moors pug of random peeps and wipe the SB group a few times, or just stay solo and pick off the really bad ones.

Either way......ME>SB

o.O

Originally Posted by idontcare789

Ok that was +repped i bout peed myself laughing. More of these please?

I 'bout peed myself too, but it's because i'm kinda old and starting to get incontinent.


3 rules for turning 40.....

1)Pee when you can.

2)Never waste good wood.

3)Never trust that a toot is just a toot.

Originally Posted by Althorion

I 'bout peed myself too, but it's because i'm kinda old and starting to get incontinent.

Originally Posted by Althorion

I 'bout peed myself too, but it's because i'm kinda old and starting to get incontinent.

kinda?

Originally Posted by gingibuff

althorr i will love to 1v1 u, Me vs you with no store involved.
no moral\power\stun pots no CD'S

....yet every time I see you solo, you try your hand for a minute, then blow cds to run away, or run to help.


Accordingly, I will take your above post to be just some make believe fantasy that you had in the middle of a nocturnal emission whilst thinking of me.


It's okay, i'm used to it.


Viva la Palestine!!!

This is for Dur....a final iteration of something I was playin' with a while back. I hope you're entertained for a minute.


No one else need concern themselves.


Just walk away.


No trespassing.





The Tyrant went down to the 'Moors
He was lookin' for a freep to kill
His loincloth in a bind, it was up his behind
But he had a quota of souls to fill
When he came across this young elf
Strummin' his bow and playin' it hot
And the Tyrant jumped up on Black Ash stump
And said "Elf, lemme tell you what"

"I guess you may not know it, but I kill freeps like you
And if you'd care to take a dare
I'll make a bet with you.
Now you're a pretty good hunter, elf
But give the Tyrant his due
I bet a First Age Bow against your soul
'Cause I think i'm better than you"

The elf said "My name's Althorr
With OP buffs you might just win
But i'll take your bet and you're gonna regret
'Cause i'm the best that's ever been"

Althorr string up your bow and aim your arrows true
'Cause hells' broke loose in Middle Earth
And the Tyrant's comin' for you
If you win you get this shiny First Age made of gold
But if you lose the Tyrant gets your soul

The Tyrant jumped twice and said
"I'll start this show"
And fire flew from his fingertips
A black wind began to blow
Then he drew his weapons out
And they made an evil hiss
A crowd of onlookers gathered 'round
They said "We can't miss this"

When the Tyrant was spent then Althorr said
"Well you're pretty good, slow one
But try and save face with the pace I bring
And let me show you how it's done"

"Fire on the mountain, run creeps run
Gonna get close to you and have some fun
Greenie in Hoarhollow but I let 'em go
Zerg tried to gank me, eat my slow"

And the Tyrant bowed his head
Because he knew that he'd been beat
And he laid that golden bow
On the ground at Althorrs' feet

And Althorr said
"Just come on back from the rez
If you ever want to try again
'Cause I told you once you son of Sauron
I'm the best that's ever been"


"Fire on the mountain, run creeps run......."

Usually freeps run from me unless they're with 2 or more. Getting sick of it, why play at all if you're just going to run, especially when you got such easy classes as RKs and Wardens

Originally Posted by Witch0King

Usually freeps run from me unless they're with 2 or more. Getting sick of it, why play at all if you're just going to run, especially when you got such easy classes as RKs and Wardens

must be you're breath.

I'd like to hear who is the best LM because every other freep class is OP as ****************************** **

Originally Posted by Witch0King

I'd like to hear who is the best LM because every other freep class is OP as ****************************** **

the last good loremaster left. good old.................... dam it i forgot his name. who was that loremaster who was always arguing with vic on the forums?

Originally Posted by Light12

the last good loremaster left. good old.................... dam it i forgot his name. who was that loremaster who was always arguing with vic on the forums?

Cluemein?

Originally Posted by erebusant

Cluemein?

no Valistar. yeah thats his name, Val was the last LM who could even be called good.

when he wasn't hiding behind a raid that is.