Well there is a difference in store brands and stun pots :P
stun pots break stun with 5sec immune, 3 of them goes to waking up animation. brands make you immune for 1 min. I only pop a brand against burgs who annoy me greatly by zerging/jumping/kill stealing. Though that is on RARE occasions, I dont normaly use the store except for the fall immunity which is a game changer when someone tries to run away from you. I know that this isnt "honourable" but name one person on this game who havent tried either :P
Anyways, If a burg stunlocks someone from the beginning, except a brand, but you're a burg from 07(?) Im sure you can handle it
Using stun pots in a 1v1 is gay, and only really permissible, imo, if the other party is doing silly stuff as well. I mean, I would expect a melee class to use a pot in a 1v1 against me if I use armaments of storm, but that's really about it. As for store items, I somehow managed to make rank 10 without ever using them - so there's "one" person that hasn't tried either.
BTW Tingur - about your signature. If an RK hits you for 5k, that is because the RK got off an EC - if you let them get attuned enough to pop EC then you can plan on either avoiding it or on taking a big hit. It requires nine battle attunement, which take a lot of time to get to in a 1v1 if your opponent is skilled and you don't cheat and use an enamel. It also requires the RK to stop moving to cast, and if you are skillful in a 1v1 you can either break LOS, get behind the RK, pop a headshot stun, etc. when the RK tries to use it. With all due respect to Clown / Reject, allowing yourself to get owned by an RK's EC does reflect a lack of skill on your part. To say something to the contrary is basically to say that RKs are OP, which I do not think is the case (and my ridiculous number of deaths will attest to this). I do agree that RKs are difficult opponents for BAs at the moment if you allow the RK to get in range, but that does not by any means make us OP in general.
Using stun pots in a 1v1 is gay, and only really permissible, imo, if the other party is doing silly stuff as well. I mean, I would expect a melee class to use a pot in a 1v1 against me if I use armaments of storm, but that's really about it. As for store items, I somehow managed to make rank 10 without ever using them - so there's "one" person that hasn't tried either.
BTW Tingur - about your signature. If an RK hits you for 5k, that is because the RK got off an EC - if you let them get attuned enough to pop EC then you can plan on either avoiding it or on taking a big hit. It requires nine battle attunement, which take a lot of time to get to in a 1v1 if your opponent is skilled and you don't cheat and use an enamel. It also requires the RK to stop moving to cast, and if you are skillful in a 1v1 you can either break LOS, get behind the RK, pop a headshot stun, etc. when the RK tries to use it. With all due respect to Clown / Reject, allowing yourself to get owned by an RK's EC does reflect a lack of skill on your part. To say something to the contrary is basically to say that RKs are OP, which I do not think is the case (and my ridiculous number of deaths will attest to this). I do agree that RKs are difficult opponents for BAs at the moment if you allow the RK to get in range, but that does not by any means make us OP in general.
Using stun pots in a 1v1 is gay, and only really permissible, imo, if the other party is doing silly stuff as well. I mean, I would expect a melee class to use a pot in a 1v1 against me if I use armaments of storm, but that's really about it. As for store items, I somehow managed to make rank 10 without ever using them - so there's "one" person that hasn't tried either.
BTW Tingur - about your signature. If an RK hits you for 5k, that is because the RK got off an EC - if you let them get attuned enough to pop EC then you can plan on either avoiding it or on taking a big hit. It requires nine battle attunement, which take a lot of time to get to in a 1v1 if your opponent is skilled and you don't cheat and use an enamel. It also requires the RK to stop moving to cast, and if you are skillful in a 1v1 you can either break LOS, get behind the RK, pop a headshot stun, etc. when the RK tries to use it. With all due respect to Clown / Reject, allowing yourself to get owned by an RK's EC does reflect a lack of skill on your part. To say something to the contrary is basically to say that RKs are OP, which I do not think is the case (and my ridiculous number of deaths will attest to this). I do agree that RKs are difficult opponents for BAs at the moment if you allow the RK to get in range, but that does not by any means make us OP in general.
Ok, I know you havent spent as much time on creep as you have on freeps so Ill go easy on ya:P
Try as a morale traited BA to deal 7-8k damage on a freep with audacity before he/she pulls of a certain skill. Against a class which can heal and dps, dont lie to me, Im not stupid. I know that RKs can use a certain thing to pull of an epic for the ages in any attunments. Not everyone can pull of hits like:
Winkey scored a devastating hit with Epic Conclusion on Muzbeak for 9,114 Lightning damage to Morale.
Or an heal for the same amount.
the only creep that can deal good dps is a warg. Yes a BA can deal dps if he manage to pull of Vital Target, but with all the induction setbacks it aint even worth the time. You're dead before the induction goes of and we got nothing to prevent it. Then what do we have left? punctured target is good if it crits/devs which is not too often. Strong pull? my lvl 51 hunter can pull of twice as much damage as that skill can.
So if you think it is lack of skills you're wrong. Creeps lack DPS, yes haters can hate, but this is the hard truth. This aint really my field, havent been here long enough, ask Vic or Reject, but im certain im right, could be wrong but..
Im not saying RKs are as godmode as minstrels, but they are far more dangerous than a champ IMO.
btw. I use stun pots in 1v1 cause of reflexses could avoid it, but I dont know why freeps even need that stun.
besides ive never let a RK "own" me, unless you count ganking/zerging. Only a low rank creep would truly be "owned" by RKs
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I know that RKs can use a certain thing to pull of an epic for the ages in any attunments.
Any RK that would use this consumable item in a 1v1 is not someone that should get many 1v1's. I know I would never use it - it would be completely unfair.
Since the inception of MMOs and PVP there's only been one rule "KILL OR BE KILLED". There are no other rules, if the Moors had beer bottles and folding chairs I'd use those.
The reason LOTRO 1v1 has to have a comprehensive listing of things you can and cannot do is....drum roll.....the classes are not balanced for 1v1 play.
The reason they're not balanced for 1v1 is becuase they are balanced for group/raid play....it's a freaking raid zone people get a clue!
Request all forum mods auto delete these inane ramblings about 1v1. That is all!
Val
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory, I love only that which it defends" J. R. Tolkien
Since the inception of MMOs and PVP there's only been one rule "KILL OR BE KILLED". There are no other rules, if the Moors had beer bottles and folding chairs I'd use those.
The reason LOTRO 1v1 has to have a comprehensive listing of things you can and cannot do is....drum roll.....the classes are not balanced for 1v1 play.
The reason they're not balanced for 1v1 is becuase they are balanced for group/raid play....it's a freaking raid zone people get a clue!
Request all forum mods auto delete these inane ramblings about 1v1. That is all!
Val
Valistar, the day you can keep SI on yourself is the day I take anything you say seriously.
Guys Valistar is right 1v1s show no skill zerging 3 people with 20 people is better then you don't need SI death to all 1v1ers and small groupers and gankers they don't know how to play in the moors i don't even know what SI means
Valistar, the day you can keep SI on yourself is the day I take anything you say seriously.
Like it or not, Val has a point (besides being a pin-head).. LotRO pvp isn't nor has it ever been designed for 1v1's and the trend leading away from raiding is what killed most the pvp on Gladden. Those days of Raid(s) vs Raid(s) are few and far between.
Want to 1v1? Check this out http://www.twoplayergames.org/4-Fighting_Games.html and the good news is it's actually balanced and fair and **FREE** for all you kiddies who can't afford any real pvp.. hahahahaha...
Don't feel a thing when dieing ingame. Only time I mind, when the rez is on the other side of the map.
I think I've been back long enough now to make a list of my own:
Freeps:
Hunter: Viceras/Magneticthor. I love hanging out near these guys and target forwarding through them because they have a great knack for picking good targets and everything they look at dies in very short order.
Champ: Reedee, for being remarkably tough to kill and one of my favourite freeps ever. Duimegrant gets an honorable mention for perseverance in the face of being one of the squishiest champs I've ever seen.
Captain: Aristeides, hands down. Grouping with him is like being given a giant win button. Honorable mention to Roman for "best at putting parry buff onto everyone in sight."
Burglar: Clevinger/Seretoga.
Guard: not a lot to choose from these days. I give Erelbtank first prize for "best at guarding HH from the pillaging efforts of those ferocious greenies."
Runekeeper: a lot of good ones out there, I think I'll go with Winkey for being very good at both blowing things up and healing.
Mistrel: way too many out there for one to really stand above the pack. Shovo and Nirrti are fun to group with.
Loremaster: haven't seen one lately that measures up to the "Sowen standard"
Warden: an even smaller field to choose from than guards (heck, I'm in the top 10 highest renown for wardens on the server and I'm still R6) but Deregorn is the best warden I've seen lately.
Creeps:
Reaver: Crusada is a beast. Thesingleboxer gets the prize for "first into the fray, first to need a bubble." Izergz gets the prize for being a lot of fun to 1v1 and, well, being Vinner.
Warg: a large pool to choose from here and quite a few good ones. Kratlerr gets my pick as top dog, but Wolfgash is up there too. Lugsteal is pretty fun to 1v1. Brizfang gets honorable mention as "best at popping out of stealth only against opponents below 25% morale with 2 or more opponents already on them."
BA: Tingur is actually pretty darn good. Daddyofglee too.
Warleader: Creamsicle and whatever Deltron's warleader is called, I can't remember right now.
Defiler: Grogog gets my prize for being ridiculously good at not dying.
Weaver: Not sure, I don't run into too many of them and not a lot of them have really stood out to me. Spiderbyte is pretty good and a lot of fun to group with.
Thought I chime in once again for best of the best 1v1-wise freeps/creeps, to make it specific to people. Keep in mind, the people I'm posting are those who have been playing frequently and recently.
Subject to change
Freeps:
Hunter: I'm gonna change to Sklavorn. He's gotten much stronger with his first age. Also honorable mention to Hedvik, man, never seen a hunt do that well just using mainly fleetness.
Champion: Azareth since Aiolis is leaving, tho he is still a New Zealand doppelganger
Guardian: Meh, there aren't any guards out there anymore that make me go, "Wow, they're good!" I will however give credit to Clockknock for being the most tedious and durable guard to take down in a 1v1 tho, takes forever to kill him yeesh.
Captain: Grimphore
Burglar: Debuff/Murglar
Warden: Deregorn (I will get you at rank 10!), then special mention to Zubgru for the good fights and she mentioned me !
Runekeeper: Winkey/Sparkman (when he gets his gear, he will be back up there). Two rks, tho I know a couple others that dont either, that dont need to be a "Magnum PI" (clever rks/ppl will hopefully get the reference ) or use armor of storm to win.
Loremaster: Eldreith
Minstrel: Shovo because he hardly, if he at all heals, and with practice could do really good. Special mention to Nirrti obv cuz she be my fave minnie milf.... o yea, and she doesnt heal an absurd amount <3! To all you other mins, quoting Chris Tucka: "all yall look alike!"
Creeps:
Warleader: Nubbers, idc who u r as wl, u'll never be better than Nubbers. Period. After that one fight with thuggs champ he is more legendary than b4 lol...
Reaver: Iraqandroll/Slashed (tho he is still nub and has much to learn)
Warg: Kratlerr
Defiler: Munce, really no other defiler has proven to me they can really 1v1 (even tho they r op).
Blackarrow: Incendio
Spider: Curlybill-1 my prodigious apprentice is strong with the force/Spyderpig since he is back.
Best pvper: Nubbers. Bar none. I want his D!
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Well, I havent fought u with 7 aud yet Skla heh . Only times I fought you I think was with 4-5 and messed up like a nub too i did xD! You're still a great hunter tho man, just havent fought you tho recently cuz u hasnt been out!
I was in swtor the other day; i can only describe as what happened after episode 3 with Sidious destroying the Jedi through Order 66 and the Empire taking over. Though you can make the pun for the servers that everyone is on the "light" side of the force, being in the NA servers pretty much everything is light, with a couple standards flutterring here and there. Though I was talking to Silvey the other day about it, and he says the Euro servers r poppin, being heavily populated on a couple!
I believe their plan is to do the free transfer thing they are doing, and once they get a good amount of people on the servers they have planned out, they will destroy the other servers. It will be "Swtor Episode II: Revenge of the TOR"! It's not gonna die out like that, it will destroy lotro! Not like I pay for lotro anyway, just tryna get reaver to rank 10 finally.
i refuse to pick bests. so i will point out the worst.
Burgs: Debuff, Crazytrick. Stun spaming pouncers.
RKs: Sparkman. all he dose is spam AoE stuns and crits for 5k.
Gaurds: loffi. charged head first into a creep raid, alone, with no help.
Caps: huh only know of one cap. and he is really good.
Minis: elinor-1. i will not start. there is too much.
Hunts: hedvik. most of the hunts are pretty good, he is not.
Wardens: Baltan. need i say more?
Champs: champonn: really really bad.
LMs: valistar: he is the only lm i can think of. and he sucks.
i would say some bad creeps include.
Incindio. I dont want to talk about it.
Me. new to the morrs. plus a laggy comp.
snuffinator. noob. need not say anything else.
well theres my list.(i am going to get so much #### for those choices)
i refuse to pick bests. so i will point out the worst.
Burgs: Debuff, Crazytrick. Stun spaming pouncers.
RKs: Sparkman. all he dose is spam AoE stuns and crits for 5k.
Gaurds: loffi. charged head first into a creep raid, alone, with no help.
Caps: huh only know of one cap. and he is really good.
Minis: elinor-1. i will not start. there is too much.
Hunts: hedvik. most of the hunts are pretty good, he is not.
Wardens: Baltan. need i say more?
Champs: champonn: really really bad.
LMs: valistar: he is the only lm i can think of. and he sucks.
i would say some bad creeps include.
Incindio. I dont want to talk about it.
Me. new to the morrs. plus a laggy comp.
snuffinator. noob. need not say anything else.
well theres my list.(i am going to get so much #### for those choices)
I kinda love this guy, and I don't know why.
I have a noob rune keeper and a champ that only tanks. Suck it.
The best in my opinion creepside are Spiderbyte and Incendio. Staying power, good leaders, and both damn hard to kill.
The best on freep side is too hard to say. I never play creepside so I have no way of knowing who is scary.
The worst:
Anyone who corpse jumps even though they had a 3 to 1 (or more) advantage.
Anyone who makes rules up outside of 1v1. (Ex. Calling out ranged for fighting ...well... ranged, or HIPs able classes for using their skills.. Oh or saying manheal or pots are cheating...If it is a skill you can use all is fair in love and war...Oh...and one more!! The people that say using trees and rocks to their advantage are bad players...dude...really??? )
Oh, and me. I have to be the worst PvMP player in the history of this game...
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Well there is a difference in store brands and stun pots :P
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