Thread: Ridiculous Crits

Best i got hit for was 10,245 from heartseeker thx turbine.

Originally Posted by BirdofHermes

It's probably because they can be countered easily. An interrupt, a silence or a disarm, and they're out. While a Minstrel can be countered too, it's a bit more difficult. For Champion even more so.
It may also have to do with the fact that LMs suffer from long cooldowns to do their big hits, but Minstrels and Champions can keep going and going.

It's not like that the 2m cd of ents and 5m cd of wisdom (i think it has been scaled down to 5m in RoI) would be too long considering the huge 5-target aoe damage of ents concetenated with a pretty long stun and the nearly full-scale self-healing + decent 1m self-buff of wisdom. Ents is like if a stronger version of BA's Improved VT would be 5-target AoE not with a DoT but with a long stun on each target. You can picture the sea of QQ and rage from freeps if VT would be like that :P Also, do not forget Light of the rising dawn, with a pretty short cd, ridiculously short induction, nice dmg and stun (I remember running around pre-RoI in skirmishes, sometimes oneshotting weaker mobs with it, with maxed FA legacy it can be deadly).
If I recall these can't be reset by the 5m cd Call to valar but it resets cd on other powerful skills instead plus grants a 10sec interrupt/setback/silence immunity when LMs can casually cast anything even against wargies as long as the LoS is kept. Still silenced? Pop a fear pot or have a cappy friend remove it. Disarmed? Remove it with in-combat instant knowledge of cures (or pot too). They're deadly kiters too, slow you by 30% with embers then running around spamming that and wizard's fire. Also cannot stun them due to their sign. Not only their Aoe and CC is insane but also their CC-protection as well as protection from hamstring. So they cant be countered that easily. Nowadays LMs are the ones I avoid the most among non-heavy classes (exluding minies ofc).
OP a bit indeed, still nothing like mincers of champs though.

Originally Posted by Dercin

If there's any decent BA in the area, you give TnG too much credit, as the big BA hits ignore it

As funny as that post was Gunlang, and it was, it doesn't make me wrong. Honestly, with some strategy, you can force any freep to blow cds and run. I get warg knockdown'd all the time on mini which pretty much either removes me from the fight offensively or I get focus fired down, mission complete.

I don't get it, you have a problem with the fact that skilled wargs with proper strategy on higher ranks stand a chance against minstrels? Or are you just encouraging creeps to develop greater skills playing their classes and they will eventually be able to beat minies? One of wargs' purposes is to impair tactical/ranged classes. I don't think it is wrong that they can eventually win. Even so, they have to have a perfect timing, striking from stealth, knowing their class and mini class fully well + possibly have all skills up to r10 as well as some anti-cc stuff to stand a chance. Still they have a poor chance to beat skilled mincers.
About BA, only BA skill that effectively strikes through B/P/E is Steadfast barrage (r10 channeled skill), with a 2min cd, each of the shots score only a bit more dps than autoattack, and they never crit. The only effective weapon of creeps against TnG. Besides, if the burglar moves out of range, out of LoS or hipses, maybe stuns/dazes the BA, the channel breakes, there you have it. He basically has to stand in front of the BA /emote-ing to him gently for it to be really effective. And BA is the most powerful creep class ^^

Originally Posted by Havoc007

It's not like that the 2m cd of ents and 5m cd of wisdom (i think it has been scaled down to 5m in RoI) would be too long considering the huge 5-target aoe damage of ents concetenated with a pretty long stun and the nearly full-scale self-healing + decent 1m self-buff of wisdom. Ents is like if a stronger version of BA's Improved VT would be 5-target AoE not with a DoT but with a long stun on each target. You can picture the sea of QQ and rage from freeps if VT would be like that :P Also, do not forget Light of the rising dawn, with a pretty short cd, ridiculously short induction, nice dmg and stun (I remember running around pre-RoI in skirmishes, sometimes oneshotting weaker mobs with it, with maxed FA legacy it can be deadly).
If I recall these can't be reset by the 5m cd Call to valar but it resets cd on other powerful skills instead plus grants a 10sec interrupt/setback/silence immunity when LMs can casually cast anything even against wargies as long as the LoS is kept. Still silenced? Pop a fear pot or have a cappy friend remove it. Disarmed? Remove it with in-combat instant knowledge of cures (or pot too). They're deadly kiters too, slow you by 30% with embers then running around spamming that and wizard's fire. Also cannot stun them due to their sign. Not only their Aoe and CC is insane but also their CC-protection as well as protection from hamstring. So they cant be countered that easily. Nowadays LMs are the ones I avoid the most among non-heavy classes (exluding minies ofc).
OP a bit indeed, still nothing like mincers of champs though.



I don't get it, you have a problem with the fact that skilled wargs with proper strategy on higher ranks stand a chance against minstrels? Or are you just encouraging creeps to develop greater skills playing their classes and they will eventually be able to beat minies? One of wargs' purposes is to impair tactical/ranged classes. I don't think it is wrong that they can eventually win. Even so, they have to have a perfect timing, striking from stealth, knowing their class and mini class fully well + possibly have all skills up to r10 as well as some anti-cc stuff to stand a chance. Still they have a poor chance to beat skilled mincers.
About BA, only BA skill that effectively strikes through B/P/E is Steadfast barrage (r10 channeled skill), with a 2min cd, each of the shots score only a bit more dps than autoattack, and they never crit. The only effective weapon of creeps against TnG. Besides, if the burglar moves out of range, out of LoS or hipses, maybe stuns/dazes the BA, the channel breakes, there you have it. He basically has to stand in front of the BA /emote-ing to him gently for it to be really effective. And BA is the most OP creep class ^^

Lm can remove silences too, same skill that grants stun immunity cures silences (and can be used while silenced). But 90% of LMs dont now that :S

Originally Posted by Havoc007

...And BA is the most powerful creep class ^^

FTFY

using word "overpowered" in relation to creeps is just wrong

Originally Posted by Havoc007

It's not like that the 2m cd of ents and 5m cd of wisdom (i think it has been scaled down to 5m in RoI) would be too long considering the huge 5-target aoe damage of ents concetenated with a pretty long stun and the nearly full-scale self-healing + decent 1m self-buff of wisdom. Ents is like if a stronger version of BA's Improved VT would be 5-target AoE not with a DoT but with a long stun on each target. You can picture the sea of QQ and rage from freeps if VT would be like that :P Also, do not forget Light of the rising dawn, with a pretty short cd, ridiculously short induction, nice dmg and stun (I remember running around pre-RoI in skirmishes, sometimes oneshotting weaker mobs with it, with maxed FA legacy it can be deadly).
If I recall these can't be reset by the 5m cd Call to valar but it resets cd on other powerful skills instead plus grants a 10sec interrupt/setback/silence immunity when LMs can casually cast anything even against wargies as long as the LoS is kept. Still silenced? Pop a fear pot or have a cappy friend remove it. Disarmed? Remove it with in-combat instant knowledge of cures (or pot too). They're deadly kiters too, slow you by 30% with embers then running around spamming that and wizard's fire. Also cannot stun them due to their sign. Not only their Aoe and CC is insane but also their CC-protection as well as protection from hamstring. So they cant be countered that easily. Nowadays LMs are the ones I avoid the most among non-heavy classes (exluding minies ofc).
OP a bit indeed, still nothing like mincers of champs though.



I don't get it, you have a problem with the fact that skilled wargs with proper strategy on higher ranks stand a chance against minstrels? Or are you just encouraging creeps to develop greater skills playing their classes and they will eventually be able to beat minies? One of wargs' purposes is to impair tactical/ranged classes. I don't think it is wrong that they can eventually win. Even so, they have to have a perfect timing, striking from stealth, knowing their class and mini class fully well + possibly have all skills up to r10 as well as some anti-cc stuff to stand a chance. Still they have a poor chance to beat skilled mincers.
About BA, only BA skill that effectively strikes through B/P/E is Steadfast barrage (r10 channeled skill), with a 2min cd, each of the shots score only a bit more dps than autoattack, and they never crit. The only effective weapon of creeps against TnG. Besides, if the burglar moves out of range, out of LoS or hipses, maybe stuns/dazes the BA, the channel breakes, there you have it. He basically has to stand in front of the BA /emote-ing to him gently for it to be really effective. And BA is the most OP creep class ^^

fairly sure LOS doesnt matter with steadfast. although any damage breaks the channel from what i have read/heard.

and as another poster stated, dont use OP and creeps in the same sentence :P

you grossly overestimate LM's. im starting to think you just suck against them thats why you QQ. sure decently geared lm's that know how to play are beasts, but those are few and far between. other than the 10 sec grace period that call to valar gives, most lm inductions are a pain to get off, and are easily interrupted. FYI pounce, NYD, eye rake, gut punch, fracture, fear, and any other interrupts i am missing, all can still interrupt inductions DURING the 10 seconds. all the skill does is give setback immunity from damage. interrupts still work fine.

to be honest, you have to know how to fight an lm, but that isnt all that hard. as a reaver, i tear up most lm's with ease. making them pop wisdom is just a bonus. they still die. yes, lm's are "op" in the right hands(not sure anything is OP compared to mini's&champs right now), but there arent a whole lot of people that can play an lm very well.

yes, lm crit damage is high, maybe a little over the top(im thinking ents and lightning crits), but you have to realize that their inductions are horrendous to get off at times. 1 warg/reaver, or even a spider, can set back lm inductions enough to where they can only get lotrd or maybe BE off.

cant really QQ about lm's with all the DR in the moors nowadays. you would have enjoyed playing back during SoA if you think now is bad lol.


EDIT:missed this somehow first time through. BE slow is 30%, they need this to make room to actually get off any skills pretty much, even then, RK's have a slow on a shorter induction, with on the move higher DPS that lm's. if your going to complain about a class that kites, complain about rk's lol. please learn the class before you QQ

Originally Posted by Dercin

I don't have a problem with creeps criting higher. The vast majority of freeps would need more morale/mitigations to compensate though. What's a 7.5k morale burg to do when every creep starts criting for thousands regularly? Seriously, op cds aside, you still die pretty fast with moderate focus fire.

My LM stacked 10.6k unbuffed, a burg can do way better. I lost 1 v 1's only to the top warg on our server (I'm a mouse/finger clicker person so I'm at a huge disadvantage to him), everything else was toast and I trait ancient master, the worse 1 v 1 trait line you can do for LM. The thought that freeps have low morale is just ####, you can build for more and not really give up much dps if you just change out a piece of jewelry or two.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/file...-9a11-jpg.html

The captain applied the healing mark, i healed myself for 1396 morale ...

Originally Posted by 0987654321

EDIT:missed this somehow first time through. BE slow is 30%, they need this to make room to actually get off any skills pretty much, even then, RK's have a slow on a shorter induction, with on the move higher DPS that lm's. if your going to complain about a class that kites, complain about rk's lol. please learn the class before you QQ

And please learn to look at my signature before flaming me for QQing randomly without the slightest knowledge of anything. From the fact alone that LM is my highest lvl freep you can guess it's my main char. I've been playing it since SoA times, early 2008, for years as my main, the reason it's not lvl75 and geared now is that I don't really care about RoI content and stick to creep play mostly.
Also roamed quite a lot of times with him in Ettens. And if I cought a reaver before he could charge or noticed a warg before he could strike, bam, I've already won. (Maybe nowadays reavers stand a better chance though due to the snare of Blade Toss). Keep burning embers and all possible dots up, if a creep still seems to catch up with you, stun him, possibly with LotRD. Kite-kite-kite, you won the fight if you start it the right way and have some decent reflexes. Melee classes don't stand a chance this way (yes obvious I know ranged classes still pwn you mostly). Still not a kiting like an RK, but pretty much effective kiting. Slow, new, incompetent LMs, sure, they are easy meat. But also note LMs only got stronger during the years.
Besides, I didn't state LMs are an unbeatable invincible OP beasts like (or even worse than) minstrels, as I've said, a previous poster claimed that they are that. I've only reacted to another previous poster that they are not THAT easily counterable, if a player isn't a complete noob at his own class.

Originally Posted by gunlang

FTFY

using word "overpowered" in relation to creeps is just wrong

Thanks Though I didn't say BA is an OP class, I've said it's the most OP among creep classes. That might as well mean that it's the least underpowered bunch among the other miserable freep mats

Originally Posted by Havoc007

It's not like that the 2m cd of ents and 5m cd of wisdom (i think it has been scaled down to 5m in RoI) would be too long considering the huge 5-target aoe damage of ents concetenated with a pretty long stun and the nearly full-scale self-healing + decent 1m self-buff of wisdom.

It has. (This makes it a bit hard to believe LM is your main)

Ents is like if a stronger version of BA's Improved VT would be 5-target AoE not with a DoT but with a long stun on each target. You can picture the sea of QQ and rage from freeps if VT would be like that :P

I wouldn't want it on my BA, that's for sure. I prefer to fight from a distance on BA, I certainly don't want to run to a melee brawl every time I want to use VT.

Also, do not forget Light of the rising dawn, with a pretty short cd, ridiculously short induction, nice dmg and stun (I remember running around pre-RoI in skirmishes, sometimes oneshotting weaker mobs with it, with maxed FA legacy it can be deadly).
If I recall these can't be reset by the 5m cd Call to valar but it resets cd on other powerful skills instead plus grants a 10sec interrupt/setback/silence immunity when LMs can casually cast anything even against wargies as long as the LoS is kept.

No, sorry, it doesn't give immunity to silence/interrupt. Only damage setback. They are easily interrupted.

Still silenced? Pop a fear pot or have a cappy friend remove it. Disarmed? Remove it with in-combat instant knowledge of cures (or pot too).

But you see, therein lies the LM's weakness; if they choose to cure a silence/disarm with skills, they lose valuable time. A LM's attack duration is very slow and some of the animations are long and must be completed, so they lose several seconds if they try to cure these things themselves. And as you well know, they go down fast when targetted, in fact a good strategy against LMs is keeping them busy like that. Most will take the bait and be killed before they realise it.

They're deadly kiters too, slow you by 30% with embers then running around spamming that and wizard's fire. Also cannot stun them due to their sign. Not only their Aoe and CC is insane but also their CC-protection as well as protection from hamstring.

Their BE slow is slow to cast and it's only 30%, nothing a BA or spider can't fix.
Also, protection from Hamstring? I must have missed something.

Originally Posted by BirdofHermes

But you see, therein lies the LM's weakness; if they choose to cure a silence/disarm with skills, they lose valuable time. A LM's attack duration is very slow and some of the animations are long and must be completed, so they lose several seconds if they try to cure these things themselves. And as you well know, they go down fast when targetted, in fact a good strategy against LMs is keeping them busy like that. Most will take the bait and be killed before they realise it.



Their BE slow is slow to cast and it's only 30%, nothing a BA or spider can't fix.
Also, protection from Hamstring? I must have missed something.

My LM doesn't go down easy, is traited Ancient master and I still can kill pretty much at will. Hell, im only above average in skill so i'm not even in the good category like someone on our server like garney is. If you are having troubles on your LM against anything but the absolute best wargs, you need to rethink how you are playing your LM, or you need to invest a few points into the intelligence skill.

Originally Posted by BirdofHermes

It has. (This makes it a bit hard to believe LM is your main).

As I've said

Originally Posted by Havoc007

the reason it's not lvl75 and geared now is that I don't really care about RoI content and stick to creep play mostly.

I'm not playing freep since RoI, so I'm not exactly up to date with every class change.
BTW allright, have it your way, let's consider 2m a long cd, still I think although it is indeed long in a single 1v1 fight, and only means one opportunity, that 2min passes very quickly during solo roaming.

Originally Posted by BirdofHermes

No, sorry, it doesn't give immunity to silence/interrupt. Only damage setback. They are easily interrupted.

Sorry, didn't know that. The setback immunity to the skill came after SoM, formerly the skill only used to reset skills. Didn't play much in SoM, just levelled from 60 to 65, somehow thought it provides interrupt immunity too.

Originally Posted by BirdofHermes

But you see, therein lies the LM's weakness; if they choose to cure a silence/disarm with skills, they lose valuable time. A LM's attack duration is very slow and some of the animations are long and must be completed, so they lose several seconds if they try to cure these things themselves. And as you well know, they go down fast when targetted, in fact a good strategy against LMs is keeping them busy like that. Most will take the bait and be killed before they realise it.

Well as I know most LMs are not dump enough to waste time/skill to dispel, let's say, Blinding Dust or a DoT, but they are willing to move away a bit when the creep is halted and sacrifice a (few) moment(s) to cure themselves of crucial impairing effects like Disarm or Silence. It's not that big deal.

Originally Posted by BirdofHermes

Their BE slow is slow to cast and it's only 30%, nothing a BA or spider can't fix.
Also, protection from Hamstring? I must have missed something.

You guys are not reading my posts at all! I have to explain myself because you react to posts you only partially read :/

Originally Posted by Havoc007

(yes obvious I know ranged classes still pwn you mostly)

As I've said, not much chance against ranged classes. And by hamstring, I didn't mean the skill, I meant the verb, you know, disable, impair class functionalities.

Originally Posted by gleowine

My LM doesn't go down easy, is traited Ancient master and I still can kill pretty much at will. Hell, im only above average in skill so i'm not even in the good category like someone on our server like garney is. If you are having troubles on your LM against anything but the absolute best wargs, you need to rethink how you are playing your LM, or you need to invest a few points into the intelligence skill.

This. Let me repeat myself the second time, I'm not saying LMs are anywhere near mins or champs in OPness, but the class itself has very much potential in it and if handled by someone who knows that class fully well it can win 95% of 1v1s, while also being powerful in grouping due to massive AoE. Stand in one place, they own you completely, but are you skilled then? CC them madly, kite them, use everything in the right time, they can't beat you if they're melee. If warg sprints or reaver slows by blade toss, stun them/root them/daze them till the sprint/snare wears out so as they will not catch up with your kiting in any way.

http://imageshack.us/f/706/screenshot01030.jpg/

Sry for german Client. It's a devasted heartseaker for 7,305 Dmg by an BLUE TRAITED Hunter (5 blues, 1 yellow (track), 1 red) WITHOUT Captain-Buffs. I'm not sure, but i think i had that burg thing on me.. 8% more inc dmg.

I don't want to know what numbers Heart Seaker will critt if a red-traited Hunter apears..

BTW: How do I link pics in forums? [img]LINK[/img] is not working.

No SS/copy from log, but I scored 7,5k HS on R7 BA. 5b/2r traits. Self buffs only, without Burn Hot.

Originally Posted by Garofin

BTW: How do I link pics in forums? [img]LINK[/img] is not working.

It has to be the "Direct Link", in your case - http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6...nshot01030.jpg and then [img] [/img] it. like this:

Originally Posted by gleowine

My LM doesn't go down easy, is traited Ancient master and I still can kill pretty much at will. Hell, im only above average in skill so i'm not even in the good category like someone on our server like garney is. If you are having troubles on your LM against anything but the absolute best wargs, you need to rethink how you are playing your LM, or you need to invest a few points into the intelligence skill.

LMs are among my favorite prey, began successfully soloing them at rank 2 on my warg, at rank 3 I could take Garny who you and most of the server consider the best (or among the very best from the thread voting) in a ungrouped, unplanned duo with a (*now* rank 6) BA:

Originally Posted by Faileon

It has to be the "Direct Link", in your case - http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6...nshot01030.jpg and then [img] [/img] it. like this:

Thanks Mork :-*

Originally Posted by Faileon

No SS/copy from log, but I scored 7,5k HS on R7 BA. 5b/2r traits. Self buffs only, without Burn Hot.

If I had a hunter, I'd trait 5 reds and warg track and nuke evrything with heartseaker outta stealth.^^
If 7,5k on blue trait-line is possible, I'm sure u can oneshot most of creeps on red traitline with Burn Hot(On devasted hit ofc)

_____ scored a devastating hit with Essence of Storm on Render for 3,439 Lightning damage to Morale.

followed by..
_____ scored a critical hit with Epic Conclusion on Render for 5,216 Lightning damage to Morale.

its okay though because i have more morale :P

Blue vs Red HS crits don't differ greatly as precision builds usually use the legacy with 13% extra crit multiplier vs the raw damage bonus.

Also how hard is it to get out of los/range from a hs with a 3 sec induction or get a wl to bubble it off.

HS if it crits might give somewhat fancy numbers not even great in most cases, dev's however do, but in reality a HS isn't really praticall and more a mess around skill then a productive skill in ettens, the only time a hs might be of some use is vs a BA that has MT up while he tries to run back with a slow on.

Originally Posted by PropJoe

I remember that, we coordinate my to arms pretty well

hears ridicules crit for you guys :P

....sorry for the ###### pic

Originally Posted by Havoc007

And please learn to look at my signature before flaming me for QQing randomly without the slightest knowledge of anything. From the fact alone that LM is my highest lvl freep you can guess it's my main char. I've been playing it since SoA times, early 2008, for years as my main, the reason it's not lvl75 and geared now is that I don't really care about RoI content and stick to creep play mostly.
Also roamed quite a lot of times with him in Ettens. And if I cought a reaver before he could charge or noticed a warg before he could strike, bam, I've already won. (Maybe nowadays reavers stand a better chance though due to the snare of Blade Toss). Keep burning embers and all possible dots up, if a creep still seems to catch up with you, stun him, possibly with LotRD. Kite-kite-kite, you won the fight if you start it the right way and have some decent reflexes. Melee classes don't stand a chance this way (yes obvious I know ranged classes still pwn you mostly). Still not a kiting like an RK, but pretty much effective kiting. Slow, new, incompetent LMs, sure, they are easy meat. But also note LMs only got stronger during the years.
Besides, I didn't state LMs are an unbeatable invincible OP beasts like (or even worse than) minstrels, as I've said, a previous poster claimed that they are that. I've only reacted to another previous poster that they are not THAT easily counterable, if a player isn't a complete noob at his own class.
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4AM when i wrote that :P yes, i did misread you sig. still, isnt an OP best as you seemed to be trying to make out in the original post i quoted. they are very beatable, even the best ones. i dont even have improved hamstring, and i still win every fight against lm's. there is only 1 lm on BW that really stands a chance against my reaver, judging from the ones i have fought 1v1. there are many i haveny fought though im sure.

tbh, the easiest class for me to beat 1v1 is a BA. even if wind-lore gets resisted, i have beat BA's 1v1. yes, if i catch a reaver before he charges, it already over, same with warg as long as he isnt on top of me when i spot him. wargs are probably the most challenging fight for me, however there are very few good wargs that seems to jump me solo. whole of BW's warg population is stuck in the pack mindset and none solo anymore it seems.

i have to say, lm's where probably stronger back in the days without DR. you say you played during SoA, so you must have suffered through some of this. i too have an lm at 75, and while his gear isnt great, i also dont have a whole lot of trouble, especially 1v1. i also try not to kite a whole bunch on my lm. i generally just get enough room to get BE/ lotrd off, and run in for an SS/SW combo.

Originally Posted by LionZero

Also how hard is it to get out of los/range from a hs with a 3 sec induction or get a wl to bubble it off.

WL Bubble?
If a hunter casts sth. and in the same moment the WL bubble is on, hunter's dmg will not be effected by WL-bubble. It's same on evry other casting skills like LM's ones.

Imagine there is a 12vs12 and the freeps got 5 or 6 hunters. It is seriously impossible to do a thing vs hunter-focus even if a WL is reacting very fast.

Didnt think I could get over 1.3K

Purebloodnakh scored a devastating hit with Swipe on Celderon for 1,439 Shadow damage to Morale.

Originally Posted by Maryam

LMs are among my favorite prey, began successfully soloing them at rank 2 on my warg, at rank 3 I could take Garny who you and most of the server consider the best (or among the very best from the thread voting) in a ungrouped, unplanned duo with a (*now* rank 6) BA:

Are you some sort of joke? Ganking someone doesn't mean you can "take someone on" it means that you are able to overwhelm them with numbers. You are the epitome of what I like to call "standard landroval trash".

Stupid that turbine refuses to balance the creep/freep scales. Today I played on my warg and was doing 25-400 damage. 400 was a crit on a light armor toon. However, the freeps were doing an average of 2k damage per hit. The problem is that freeps have buffs, scrolls, LI, tokens, jewelry, armor. Creeps have teeth and claws, bows, and regular weapons, no armor or jewelry.

Originally Posted by TheBigMenace

Are you some sort of joke? Ganking someone doesn't mean you can "take someone on" it means that you are able to overwhelm them with numbers. You are the epitome of what I like to call "standard landroval trash".

R3 with some assist from a BA is ganking? Fine. If I say Freeps are Godmoding trash I'm a hero, if put a pic that shows even the best of a supposedly OP class being taken down easily by two low ranks, I'm trash.

By the way your kin was the talk of glff last night, loot chest still glowy, booted non kin members from raid after they didn't leave when told, etc, etc.

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

Didnt think I could get over 1.3K

Purebloodnakh scored a devastating hit with Swipe on Celderon for 1,439 Shadow damage to Morale.

haha a warg did 1.4k damage on a hit? The legend of Purebloodworg grows.

Originally Posted by Maryam

By the way your kin was the talk of glff last night, loot chest still glowy, booted non kin members from raid after they didn't leave when told, etc, etc.

Boy you showed him. Almost a critical hit here, what did it register? 540 shadow damage?

Originally Posted by Maryam

LMs are among my favorite prey, began successfully soloing them at rank 2 on my warg, at rank 3 I could take Garny who you and most of the server consider the best (or among the very best from the thread voting) in a ungrouped, unplanned duo with a (*now* rank 6) BA:

Yeah and the BA bought all his skills so his rank doesn't so much matter. So you did practically nothing while the BA did 90% of the work. How about you go 1 v 1 on garney. 2 v 1 isn't proving a thing.

And no offense, but I remember your low rank warg in my raids I use to lead. You were average for a newer warg, but couldn't have soloed garney or most other LM by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think you could now unless you've bought all your skills and went against one of the weaker ones on the server.

Originally Posted by gleowine

Yeah and the BA bought all his skills so his rank doesn't so much matter. So you did practically nothing while the BA did 90% of the work. How about you go 1 v 1 on garney. 2 v 1 isn't proving a thing.

And no offense, but I remember your low rank warg in my raids I use to lead. You were average for a newer warg, but couldn't have soloed garney or most other LM by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think you could now unless you've bought all your skills and went against one of the weaker ones on the server.

The only raids I remember being was one lead by Capnjack and a small group (like 3 wargs and a WL) lead by a warg with a "M" name that cursed a lot at r0 and r1. Perhaps your memory is better than mine on this, in which case I thank you for thinking of me as average, I'd have described myself as bad, and only now would like to flatter myself thinking I might be average. As far as the Garny kill, I don't know whether the BA had bought skills, I know mine were limited to Track, and that at 96 infamy without even the KB, I assume I did most of the work, 60%-85% maybe. I was quite proud of my managing to stay on his back, best job I've ever done, eventually he just gave up and let me have it and tried to burn the BA down.

Originally Posted by Maryam

R3 with some assist from a BA is ganking? Fine. If I say Freeps are Godmoding trash I'm a hero, if put a pic that shows even the best of a supposedly OP class being taken down easily by two low ranks, I'm trash.

By the way your kin was the talk of glff last night, loot chest still glowy, booted non kin members from raid after they didn't leave when told, etc, etc.

That was rather uncalled for. Low blow. Does anybody even know when that happened, and to whom?

Originally Posted by gleowine

Yeah and the BA bought all his skills so his rank doesn't so much matter. So you did practically nothing while the BA did 90% of the work. How about you go 1 v 1 on garney. 2 v 1 isn't proving a thing.

And no offense, but I remember your low rank warg in my raids I use to lead. You were average for a newer warg, but couldn't have soloed garney or most other LM by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think you could now unless you've bought all your skills and went against one of the weaker ones on the server.

While I agree that the BA likely did the burst responsible for Garny's actual death, Lizaveta's warg got 96 Infamy for that kill, isn't in a group, and has no +infamy buffs. She did most of the damage.

2 v 1 a Lore Master and brag about it? Throw said Lore Master's kin under the bus when called out? Keeping it real apparently.

It is better to be thought a fool and keep your mouth shut, then to open it and remove all doubt.

The only people WoS steal loot from atm are Kalbak, Crisian and Usgarren and Ioreth.

Originally Posted by Tophsho

2 v 1 a Lore Master and brag about it? Throw said Lore Master's kin under the bus when called out? Keeping it real apparently.

It is better to be thought a fool and keep your mouth shut, then to open it and remove all doubt.

The only people WoS steal loot from atm are Kalbak, Crisian and Usgarren and Ioreth.

You should clarify those names. He might not know that those are raid bosses and not real people. :P

*pulls arrow out of head*

Originally Posted by PropJoe

Seriously though..... that is insane

One day I will wreck face like that against a creep

Champion scored a devastating hit with Let Fly on Butzniffer for 1,263 Westernesse damage to Morale.

Originally Posted by timmyloo22546

One day I will wreck face like that against a creep

A regular crit. On a raidboss.

Ok, so i spent a day in moors on creep side...and i agree, BALANCE FOR #### SAKE