Thread: A 100% increase in the cost of Task Reset Counters

Oh my word Turbine, seriously, 100TP for a task reset counter instead of 50, that really is flogging a dead horse, boiling it down for glue, using the glue to make a model of a dead horse, then flogging it again. Bad, very bad.

Please ./sign if you think the reset counter should be put back to 50TP.

Is the number of tasks still at 5? If so... /signed

Yes the initial number is still 5, with a token granting +1 tasks per day every 100 tasks.

As a completionist I found it nearly impossible to complete the Deed for the tasks, which is to complete 500. Now as I refuse to spend any TP at all, and as a VIP I shouldn't have had to (now a Premium), it would have taken me 100 days of grinding tasks to complete this deed on a single character. This is a massive grind, and as much as I liked the cloaks and titles you get for doing them, I don't understand why ther eis so much grind involved in them.

In my opinion if you're a VIP you should have no task limit per day. If you're free or premium you should have to pay for the reset counter after a certain ammount per day.

It's like the festival consume consumable deeds. This is a big problem for me as a completionist, I can't complete things reasonably, or at all.

*sigh* I bet you that they will continue to add that irritating coin icon on the screen after every task limit if they raised the prices. God, that thing annoys me.

Originally Posted by Nymphonic

*sigh* I bet you that they will continue to add that irritating coin icon on the screen after every task limit if they raised the prices. God, that thing annoys me.

That used to tick me off too. Not only do VIP's have a limited number of tasks they can do per day, but then they want you to spend money unlocking more!

The law of supply and demand indicates you can charge so much for a product as long as people are willing to pay for it. If the price goes too high and people stop buying the price will be reduced.

If it is too costly at 100tp then stop buying them. You can certainly complete the deed without it. Grind out a bunch of things to build them up. Log in daily to turn them. You can turn in more tasks daily as you earn each level (each 100 tasks). They raised the price as that was one of the popular store items.

Was the price increased today? As in undocumented change?

Originally Posted by Nymphonic

*sigh* I bet you that they will continue to add that irritating coin icon on the screen after every task limit if they raised the prices. God, that thing annoys me.

You must get annoyed at things very easy to be annoyed over a icon.

/signed (but I know it is useless)

I bought the 50tp a few times when I was in fast level mode in Isengard. I'm leveling another character up now. 100tp? No. I WILL sign this petition in the only meaningful way that I can: not buy any more task resets. Turbine's actually cost themselves some money here. I encourage others to find some lines that they won't cross and stick to them. Turbine knows what people spend the points on. If they see purchases drop in any area, you'll see a cost decrease in time.

Originally Posted by Gelydh

That used to tick me off too. Not only do VIP's have a limited number of tasks they can do per day, but then they want you to spend money unlocking more!

I always felt that there should be a task reset available in the destiny perks.

Now, this has gone too far. A 100% price increase in the task reset is just ridiculous.

Way to go, turbine.

/signed. And no, I won't buy any more task resets until the price goes back to where it was.

I use to use this allot on one of my toons but have not used it in some time. I do think the price should not been raised.

While we are at it Turbine may I suggest you lower the price in your mounts. Or if you dont wanna do that raise the prices & make em account wide. I am telling ya you'd get many more buyers with account wide mounts. Also if you went this route you could have something like steed of the month club. teehee Have a new mount each month.

Wow, that's especially harsh after they had it on sale for 25 TP (half off) for so long recently. That's the only time I ever bought the resets. That really looks like the dealer selling cheap to get people hooked.

At 100 TP, no way would I buy one.

Originally Posted by Fipiara

I always felt that there should be a task reset available in the destiny perks.

Agreed /10char

Originally Posted by Fipiara

I always felt that there should be a task reset available in the destiny perks.

I like this idea

Originally Posted by Elemiire

Now, this has gone too far. A 100% price increase in the task reset is just ridiculous.

Way to go, turbine.

/signed. And no, I won't buy any more task resets until the price goes back to where it was.

Ditto.....

I so far have been silent on the many isues that have been an Irritant here in lotro......
Will say I love the game and enjoy playing and wont stop over this but I agree and Sign this statement
I will not buy any task resets till this price gouge is corrected.

I have no direct proof but I suspect that you might check out FPaiz statements about costs and players not willing to leave the game. There are several threads with the links and Im sure google will toss it up too.

Essentially, the CEO claims he can raise the prices, even beyond what folks "find their comfort zones" and players will still not leave the game.

50 TP was too much for me, 100TP way out of the ball park.

Also, we know that there is a Ecommerce Team running the Store... might want to go up to the Store Feedback forums. This thread will end up there anyway.

In my view 50 TP for task reset was highway robbery and never bought them because of that price.
100 TP? EPIC Fail LOL

You ask me costs in the LOTRO store should be permanently reduced by 90% to 95%

Well, I wouldn't buy it even for 25TP, especially that its just better deal to get limit increaser, or rep bonus.

Definitely /signed

This reminds me of the old days when playing the the arcade games on the huge machines before going to the cinema. You die and then a time counter counts down, while the text on the screen ask you to insert more coins to continue from where one died. One keeps on inserting coins in order to continue... chin thing chin thing. lol!

Bad style TB. Also this option that pops up in one's face to spend 195 TB points to revive after dying for the second time is bad style. Good that one is only playing this for relaxing and not as a serious mmo thing.

Maaan.

SIGNED!

I bought 1 once when I was like 95/100 but a task reset doesnt worth more than 5tp.

Signed or whatever I really dont know what the store managers are thinking. It seems these people dont even know their own game.

I wouldn't normally do this but...

/signed

I am VIP, but grudgingly bought a few on my main at level 75 to help finish riders rep quicker when they were 50TP.

I have a 74 that's going to hit 75 today, I guess I'll be saving the TP and taking a little longer for kindred. 50TP was pushing it, 100TP is craziness!

C

I resettet the task-limit a few times with an alt, since my (at the moment highest-)lvl 59-Char is around 75/100 and haven't seen any task-boards in Moria. So I thought, maybe I need to complete 100 tasks before going to Moria.
Are there task-boards later in the game, so I can make more tasks?

And,

/sign

100 TP is to much for a reset, even if I'm a VIP-player.

This really is takling the mickey - all we can do is hope people DO NOT buy them at 100TP.

I am a VIP and they expect a 20% monthly outlay for one reset token - especially as most game deeds only give 5-10 TP.

That really is annoying when you get a 5TP prize (WOW 5TP !!!) and the store icon wants you to open the store and spend it.

What can you spend 5TP on that is of any use? (or grind 10-20 deeds for one token)

The sad thing is that some people will contine to pay these new high prices.

Anyway, rant over and /signed

Originally Posted by staveisle

/signed (but I know it is useless)

I bought the 50tp a few times when I was in fast level mode in Isengard. I'm leveling another character up now. 100tp? No. I WILL sign this petition in the only meaningful way that I can: not buy any more task resets. Turbine's actually cost themselves some money here. I encourage others to find some lines that they won't cross and stick to them. Turbine knows what people spend the points on. If they see purchases drop in any area, you'll see a cost decrease in time.

Same...used the reset to do tasks before. I absolutely refuse to spend 100tp for 5 stupid quests...and I completely agree with an earlier poster that VIP should NOT have a daily limit at all.

Haha turbine trying to make even more money by raising prices and hoping noone notices!

I do tasks while leveling because I have to kill the mobs in question anyway, but why would you do them when you're max lvl? Surely theer are better ways to get rep. Seems like a wasted time to me. Just another pointless grind.

Originally Posted by Gelydh

As a completionist I found it nearly impossible to complete the Deed for the tasks, which is to complete 500. Now as I refuse to spend any TP at all, and as a VIP I shouldn't have had to (now a Premium), it would have taken me 100 days of grinding tasks to complete this deed on a single character. This is a massive grind, and as much as I liked the cloaks and titles you get for doing them, I don't understand why ther eis so much grind involved in them.

You base your calcualtion on 5 tasks/day but that's not correct ...

There are five deeds that require players to complete tasks. They can be found in the Reputation section of the Class/Race/Epic tab in the Deed Log. Each deed requires the player to complete 100 tasks.

Upon completing a deed, the player will receive a new title, a Task Rewards gift box, and 5 Turbine Points. In each gift box, players will receive an item that increases the daily task limit by 1, and an extra daily task reset item. Upon completing each of the final three deeds, players will receive a cosmetic cloak.

If you do the maximum limit of Tasks each day, you should finish your 500th Task on the 71st day.

... though i must admit, I think the last daily task limit increase at 500 tasks is not very useful, as with reaching 500 tasks you don't 'need' more daily tasks. :P


I achieved the Hot Shot some days ago, the last 150+ tasks I completed with farming ore + looting LI from killed mobs in Nan Curunir as well as doing the Daily Galtrev Solos where you can loot a good amount of Punctured Shields and Sword Sheaths. Turning in these tasks at Forthbrond. Without the store task increasers or resetters you can do 9 tasks each day for 400-500 tasks, so that would be 11 days ... and with the gifted task resetter from completing 400 tasks, reset once and you're at 500 in 10 days

While doing the daily tasks and the daily repeatables, you can earn lots of rep, LI (for decon or AH) and much gold ... if you can farm ore or wood, you also will stumble over Cracked Sigils ... you'll find many recipe rolls ... crafting ingredients ... if you haven't done Dunland Slayer deeds, you'll advance them there ...

... so reaching 500 tasks is a lil bit of grind, but you'll be rewarded a lot. Not every LotRO grind is that profitable.


PS: I wouldn't buy a resetter nor increaser for tp, not for 50tp nor 100tp ... I just didn't need them, the 'decrease in grind time' just doesn't attract me.

Have a look through the store, lots of things have now had a price hike, I think the orcs have stuck in a stealth tax somewhere...

Originally Posted by SuaronTehMighty

but why would you do them when you're max lvl?

At 75 with all the one-shot quests completed, there are two repeatables that give 500 Riders rep (Pit of Iron), and seven that give 700 rep (Galtrev Dailies and Ring of Isengard), a total of 5900 rep per day. At 300 rep for each task, a set of five is worth 1500 rep, a 25% bonus on top of the non-task dailies.

Of course there's also a significant IXP per task, which really helps out with the legacy/relic grind.

I am almost starting to feel sorry for you folks 'sticking with it' while Turbine 'makes it all OK'.

almost...

Originally Posted by Gelydh

As a completionist I found it nearly impossible to complete the Deed for the tasks, which is to complete 500.

Just a quick tip - go with a friend or two to the cave near the dwarf quest giver in Isendale. Kill the Warg Matron and her pups over and over again. They drop several of the task items and they respawn almost immediately. I went with a CPT and we'd each get 2-3 stacks of items in barely half an hour.

A slightly harder way is to go to Dol Baran and pull lots of Dunlendings to the Rohirrim. Any you tag - even for 1 pt - will drop loot for you.

It's still a long haul handing in 5/day and I agree that the cost of the reset token is far too high at 100pts. But at least the actual gathering of the items needn't be too horrible.

Originally Posted by SuaronTehMighty

I do tasks while leveling because I have to kill the mobs in question anyway, but why would you do them when you're max lvl?

Like all deeds - because they are there. Same reason I have rank 14 Mercy and am almost done with Ivar's Champions.

Originally Posted by Tarmas_Eldar

It's still a long haul handing in 5/day

... but you don't hand in 5/day, as with every task deed you get gifted 1 tasks increaser and 1 resetter:

TASKS--daily task max--task resetter--days to complete
1 - 100---------5--------------0--------------20
101-200--------6--------------1--------------16
201-300--------7--------------1--------------13
301-400--------8--------------1--------------12
401-500--------9--------------1--------------10

So you 'just' need 71 days to complete the Hot Shot for 500 Daily Tasks

When considering buying from the store I always remind myself that 1TP is about one UK penny. Suddenly all that stuff looks like you are paying real money to rearrange a few electrons and bingo, you dont spend it.

I have about 16k TP, wonder if the company want to buy them off me?:-)

The downside is it is clearly how WB like their business model to work so we are probably stuck with it for ever.

Originally Posted by Mithithil

When considering buying from the store I always remind myself that 1TP is about one UK penny. Suddenly all that stuff looks like you are paying real money to rearrange a few electrons and bingo, you dont spend it.

I have about 16k TP, wonder if the company want to buy them off me?:-)

The downside is it is clearly how WB like their business model to work so we are probably stuck with it for ever.

Another soul is waking up!

(BTW, TP are non-refundable as they are not 'real' currency)

(well the new armour they sell in the store can be sold to vendors, so, nvm)

So many haters on these forums!

Lots of people who work long hours, or have stressful jobs, like the convenience of spending one dollar to make their entertainment time more interesting. I like buying the grind out of my playtime as much as possible. 50 cents, now $1, no problem.

You get XP for those tasks. The 5/day limit is good, EVEN FOR VIPs, because you could theoretically buy the vendor trash in the AH (Ive seen punctured shields and decorative sword sheaths there, those are two of the Theodred turn ins) with gold from a developed alt, and literally level to 75 without ever entering combat. Correct? It might not be, Im pretty noob, no joke.

Sometimes I agree with the mob here, like not refunding our soldier upgrade mark costs after yesterdays patch (buy a reset scroll for TP and relevel the soldier to get tens of thousands of marks back!), or the worthless garbage in the key/boxes. I'd sign a petition to make store mounts account wide, that's a terrific gripe. And months to fix the warden nerf, there's another. But to threaten, once again, to leave the game over 50 vs 100 TP for task resets... you have to pick your battles, guys. Just don't buy task resets, problem solved, and don't worry about what I'm doing with my salary.

I want Turbine to make lots of cash, for WB to want to grow this property, I want to get to Mordor. As George Harrison sang in Got My Mind Set On You (which was clearly written about us getting to Mordor) "But it's gonna take money, A whole lot of spending money. It's gonna take plenty of money, To do it right child"