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    Full Set of thamen

    Hi all. Just got the full set and was 1st on my server to get the item to make the neck.
    Below is a pic of my char with the neck,3 and 5 set bonus of the thamen set

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Very cool, grats. Glad you went with the parry necklace


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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Gratz on the gear. Very nice looking setup.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Looking pretty epic here!

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Hm. Its nearly like looking into a mirror. Although i wouldnt wear all 6 pieces + i dont like the ring with vita+finesse.

    btw: You look ridicoulos in this dress!
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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    How do you get 10k block rating? O_o or is the missing power the proof you just used some HoTs for block rating?

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Giliodor View Post
    How do you get 10k block rating? O_o or is the missing power the proof you just used some HoTs for block rating?
    They've got to be buffs. I don't think it's possible to have a nice rounded set up like he does and have 10k block rating on top of that. Besides... you can see him in combat with the target dummy on the bottom left of the screen. :P

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Well, I have ~5k block unbuffed
    He's using the gems or runes with block, might and partial block+parry mitigation on both LIs, that's another 1.2k block
    He has 250 more might than me, thats another 1k block
    He's most likely using Shield Mastery since he has the mitigation buff from it, that's another 2.5k block
    He probably has Balance of Man trait (my Wrd is an Elf -_-) for another 260 block.
    That combined should give 10k, so it's quite possible to get.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrantiri View Post
    Well, I have ~5k block unbuffed
    He's using the gems or runes with block, might and partial block+parry mitigation on both LIs, that's another 1.2k block
    He has 250 more might than me, thats another 1k block
    He's most likely using Shield Mastery since he has the mitigation buff from it, that's another 2.5k block
    He probably has Balance of Man trait (my Wrd is an Elf -_-) for another 260 block.
    That combined should give 10k, so it's quite possible to get.
    No doubt buffed... which is not what they were asking. He he. Shield Mastery is a buff... so you cannot include that in your numbers if they are asking for unbuffed. Unbuffed would include things such as relics... just not from 'buffs'. My Warden has 6,459 Block unbuffed. 10k is very achievable with buffs.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrendos View Post
    No doubt buffed... which is not what they were asking. He he. Shield Mastery is a buff... so you cannot include that in your numbers if they are asking for unbuffed. Unbuffed would include things such as relics... just not from 'buffs'. My Warden has 6,459 Block unbuffed. 10k is very achievable with buffs.
    Read his question again


    Quote Originally Posted by Giliodor View Post
    How do you get 10k block rating? O_o or is the missing power the proof you just used some HoTs for block rating?
    I'd say it was exactly what he was asking.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrantiri View Post
    Read his question again




    I'd say it was exactly what he was asking.
    Pfft... yeah... well.... you're not invited to my birthday party!!! *throws dirt in your eyes*

    Hehe. I read it wrong. My mind told me it said something completely different. This is what I saw.

    "Hey, how'd you manage to get 10k Block Rating unbuffed?"

    Silly me.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrendos View Post
    Pfft... yeah... well.... you're not invited to my birthday party!!! *throws dirt in your eyes*

    Hehe. I read it wrong. My mind told me it said something completely different. This is what I saw.

    "Hey, how'd you manage to get 10k Block Rating unbuffed?"

    Silly me.
    WAT? No bday caek for me? :'(

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrantiri View Post
    WAT? No bday caek for me? :'(
    No bday cake, no laser tag, no loot bag... NOTHING!!!

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Picture was taken at training dummies in galtrev so i think it is buffed (minimum with one shield mastery, or more)

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Hmm yeah and I just realise he had to use some HoTs for showing the 5 set bonus of Thamen and SM for the mit buff...

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Gz on getting the neck.
    Your crit defense if quite low, if you don't mind me saying so. Is that a conscious choice?
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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by rannion View Post
    Gz on getting the neck.
    Your crit defense if quite low, if you don't mind me saying so. Is that a conscious choice?
    The picture is from before Update 6, I think they added a Passive Skill with Crit Defence @ U6.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    who started this thread up? anyway yes the pic was very old before 6.1 but it was nice to see me before and after. This is me now and nothing hasnt really changed. You grind hard for stangard rep and the only big difference is the boost from the update rather than gear etc


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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    I know your Warden and know your setup is working out for you, but I dont like the rather low inc healing rating :/
    I might have an advantage though as I still use the LI gems with +520 tact miti, 1500 inc healing and 102 icpr, they are awesome imo.

    I also went for the 20fate, 510 tact mastery and 510 crit crafted relics for extra heals and crits on heals, 60 vitality isnt much of a loss imo compared to 2-5% extra outgoing heal and 2-5% extra crit.

    and you got MY bracelets, gief!

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    At 5,275 my incoming healing is 20%. The cap for man is 30% and other races is 25%. I would think of my inc healing as average than low and yes those t9 relics are good and sadly i decon them by accident. That being said they are no longer in the game and there are not allot of options for increasing inc healing. I can increase it by 6%(rounding it up) via relics and an extra 1% via gear. A total of 7% and the trade off is less parry and evade are the noticeable ones. Currently my setup is working great for me and it got me thinking how good is inc healing now with the state of the warden?
    Incoming healing increases the morale which is healed. We can say its not really needed for 3/6mans t2 since we can solo some of its bosses and if aggro is not an issue due to our self heals. When it comes to 12mans we can solo draigoch, skirmishes are easy which leaves us to Orthanc t2. While its a must have for orthanc there are some attacks that will 1shot or soon kill you if you are not fully healed or you are slow to react but we can counter these attacks with NS and DC even if its only once. Its just my view but inc healing is not as important as it was since 6.1.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Protoss360 View Post
    At 5,275 my incoming healing is 20%. The cap for man is 30% and other races is 25%. I would think of my inc healing as average than low and yes those t9 relics are good and sadly i decon them by accident. That being said they are no longer in the game and there are not allot of options for increasing inc healing. I can increase it by 6%(rounding it up) via relics and an extra 1% via gear. A total of 7% and the trade off is less parry and evade are the noticeable ones. Currently my setup is working great for me and it got me thinking how good is inc healing now with the state of the warden?
    Incoming healing increases the morale which is healed. We can say its not really needed for 3/6mans t2 since we can solo some of its bosses and if aggro is not an issue due to our self heals. When it comes to 12mans we can solo draigoch, skirmishes are easy which leaves us to Orthanc t2. While its a must have for orthanc there are some attacks that will 1shot or soon kill you if you are not fully healed or you are slow to react but we can counter these attacks with NS and DC even if its only once. Its just my view but inc healing is not as important as it was since 6.1.
    Good points. My incomming heal ratings isn't capped but it is good enough. I think it is just shy of 20% but I have had no problems this far. By the sounds of it I am in the same boat though. I can get more incomming heal rating but I would be sacrificing too much for an extra what, 5% heals? I'd rather stick with my current build and avoid the attacks all together hehe.

    Very nice build by the way! The most complete Warden set up that I have seen to date. Kudos.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Protoss360 View Post
    Hi all. Just got the full set and was 1st on my server to get the item to make the neck.
    Below is a pic of my char with the neck,3 and 5 set bonus of the thamen set
    None of the pieces here are Thamen, except maybe some cosmetics... But don't know how it shows in gear window.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Its a old pic and the orignal look of the items icons. It was later changed to what we have now in 5.1 i think

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    This might be how the purple set looks like. I've seen it right away and I don't remember them being like this.

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Elrendos View Post
    Very nice build by the way! The most complete Warden set up that I have seen to date. Kudos.
    thx. Most wardens in terms of gear is similar but some people are just lucky with loot drops

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    Re: Full Set of thamen

    Quote Originally Posted by Protoss360 View Post
    At 5,275 my incoming healing is 20%. The cap for man is 30% and other races is 25%. I would think of my inc healing as average than low and yes those t9 relics are good and sadly i decon them by accident. That being said they are no longer in the game and there are not allot of options for increasing inc healing. I can increase it by 6%(rounding it up) via relics and an extra 1% via gear. A total of 7% and the trade off is less parry and evade are the noticeable ones. Currently my setup is working great for me and it got me thinking how good is inc healing now with the state of the warden?
    Incoming healing increases the morale which is healed. We can say its not really needed for 3/6mans t2 since we can solo some of its bosses and if aggro is not an issue due to our self heals. When it comes to 12mans we can solo draigoch, skirmishes are easy which leaves us to Orthanc t2. While its a must have for orthanc there are some attacks that will 1shot or soon kill you if you are not fully healed or you are slow to react but we can counter these attacks with NS and DC even if its only once. Its just my view but inc healing is not as important as it was since 6.1.
    The only change I'd propose for your setup would be to swap to the Draigoch helmet - 122 vita, 1300 inc healing and finesse. Obviously it's a matter of preference, but I'd take some inc healing over a bit of might and morale.
    I agree that for everything but ToO T2 this discussion is completely over the top, they're easy for both guards and wardens if their gear is decent.
    I've tanked Saruman T2 twice now, and I'm certain that my extra incoming healing works out nicely as I have plenty of time to build heals and BPE through gambits.

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