Discussion: Elf Champion with 2H Sword?

I prefer a 2H sword and I am an Elf Champ, I know elves get a 2% bonus to 1H swords, what about 2H swords? And if they dont will the 2% really be worth having two swords? I love dual wielding however every sword that is one hand in this game is ugly. I enjoy scimitar/single sided blades when I dual wield...I have yet to see any of that sort for players to use.

I'm an Elven Champion, and I use a 2handed sword >.> But, nope, they don't get a bonus like that for 2 handed

2% -can- make a difference, but it's a rare occasion that it'd come to matter much. For every 10,000 you do, you'd do an extra 200.

There are (rare) scimitar-like swords, and even in the end game content. Just rare.

But really, LOTRO allows for varied gameplay If you know your class/character, you can "sacrifice" some things for the sake of fun


Hope this helps

I agree, my main is an elf champ and I much prefer 2h over dual wielding. And that's considering as I reach the higher levels I find myself leaning more toward an AoE build. Sure, dual-wielding does more AoE DPS per skill than 2h, but dual-wielders are finding themselves running out of power with the RoI changes and that kills their DPS in a longer fight. Basically, they've done a good job of balancing it all out.

So, DW vs. 2H boils down to a choice of speed vs. stamina and there's no clear winner IMHO.

Here's my plan: just grind out the four pieces of our class armour and add -attack duration and +crit relics (with the crit mag legacy). At that point a champ's DPS is in the stratosphere, so 2% here or there isn't worth worrying about.

Just go with whatever you feel is cool; awesomeness > min-maxing.

I think they really need to add a 2% bonus to 2 handers for elves as well, kinda unfair to them that men get them and they don't. They were in Middle-Earth first after all, and most of them look like ladies, so ladies first I say :P lol. Anyway, corny joke aside, elves need that trait added.

./signed

OK, brief derail, in Return of the King the orcs are scared of Samwise because they don't think he's a humble hobbit:
"There's a great fighter about, one of those bloody-handed Elves, or one of the filthy tarks."

Pretty or not, the orcs are used to seeing elven warriors up to their elbows in Orcish blood...

If it weren't for the racial bonuses everyone would probably be using the same weapons, so I am kinda grateful they exist.

Poor elves don't get a 2h bonus, but hey you can stealth in the moors... I'd take that any day.

Envoyé par Luiakyn

I'm an Elven Champion, and I use a 2handed sword >.> But, nope, they don't get a bonus like that for 2 handed

2% -can- make a difference, but it's a rare occasion that it'd come to matter much. For every 10,000 you do, you'd do an extra 200.

There are (rare) scimitar-like swords, and even in the end game content. Just rare.

But really, LOTRO allows for varied gameplay If you know your class/character, you can "sacrifice" some things for the sake of fun


Hope this helps

That's because scimitars were orc weapons, in Middle Earth the free peoples all used straight swords. There was one elf that was described as using a curved sword "alone among all the Eldar" but I do not remember who.

Because of the lack of a racial bonus, my elf champ actually uses a two-handed hammer. It's good for a unique look as raiders very rarely bother with a hammer.

Yes you will be penalized.

Will it matter? in 95% of the situations, not much. In the longish raid bosses? yes the longer it goes the less dps output you may do.

However, YOU would also have to take in account all other gears, relics ect ect. Then you need to place yourself where you feel comfortable playing. Im not at a full dps spec with 1600-1700 might and 6k morale or something. I prefer to do 8k + morale and 1200 might. I know Im not doing as much dps, but I can take a few hits and off tank in a pinch.

In the moors? in raid situations its not going to help much (niether would stealth.. but man heal might) 1 vs 1? Well champs can take out pretty much anything if they ripped through thier cds. Some do, some dont. So again not much diffrence. In small group situations.. again I cant see that 2% making a diffrence vs gear ect. IF you want to run two handed go ahead.

Some peeps are SO caught up the in the #s , they are just going to tell you to L2P no matter what. Well i parse xx.x and your parsing is yy.x so ya, you are terrible =P . BTW I dont see that many of these peeps out there. Sure , you might run into a couple. But honestly.. people get way to caught up in having a .5% diffrence sometimes. Get what you feel like getting!

I actually think it should be a 2h bonus for men, not just swords.

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That's because scimitars were orc weapons, in Middle Earth the free peoples all used straight swords. There was one elf that was described as using a curved sword "alone among all the Eldar" but I do not remember who.

Wasn't that Glorfindel?

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Wasn't that Glorfindel?

http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showt...ns-of-Gondolin

Egalmoth of the Heavenly Arch. He's the only elf every mentioned wielding a curved sword. The Uruks of Isengard are described as using short, straight swords AND it's mentioned that that is unusual because orcs always use scimitars.

Vorez, my Elf champ has played with 2 axes till level 65 (after that I've been using swords and tbh I think they look rather good now. Didn't do it for the +2% damage, did it for the looks) which is really 'not done'. Dwarf weapons eh, bleh.

Really, I would not worry about what weapon you wield at all. W/e you think looks the best will make you enjoy your champ the most. Same for dual wielding vs 2h. Both have their advantages (if you want to check them out just read up on the discussion on the forum), just pick what you enjoy playing the most

Cosmetics own efficiency!

Switching from 1H/DW with 2% bonus to 2H with zero bonus will still result in more damage.

While the numbers are close, 2H is supreme to DW at the moment. To reach a similar damage output DW burns through your stamina like crazy. I really prefer 2H by now and I have played DW for ages before.

Anecdotal assumptions. I do not ignore that 2h is very powerful for ST, but saying it's "supreme" is ridiculous. I'd like to see those numbers stand up against DW AoE, for one. I personally feel 2h is better ST, but not enough to use words like "supreme". Additionally, DW hits Bracing and Wild Attack (for Blood-lust and Call of the Wild) better than 2h, provides better stats - especially to survivability and crit. Furthermore, whichever style snaps to your brain better is going to be where you'll excel, especially for beginners, unless you put in the time and effort to conquer both (which I feel any good Champ should do).

Until someone posts some serious math, this is just people feeling good about their personal choice of style.

Let me start by thanking everyone for giving their input, It is greatly appreciated!

I do like the style of DW over 2H. But my concern is not so much as DPS numbers as it is my "look". I know many people would call me a noob for saying that. But, to be honest...If I am paying to play this game I really do want to enjoy my character and use a play style I like. That said, if there really is end game swords (1H swords) that are elven styled or singled sided blades I should be happy.

I great desire swords similar to the style of scimitars. I love to DW or use 2H swords but my best pick would be two single sided blades. I have yet to encounter any sword in this game as of now that has been of this styling yet however and I just hit level 22.

I am hoping to see better models to my liking as I progress but I dont expect to find an endgame weapon I will love. I guess I am just a picky players lol! Though I must add that I love the armor/outfits avaliable. Most of the gear I have found so far is in my wardrobe!

Thanks again for all your replies everyone. You really helped me out. If anyone does run into a sword of knows of one avaliable end game that my be like a scimitar please do let me know

Armor sets you can keep the look you like, outfitting them cosmetically. Weapons will come and go-- as of now, there is no cosmetic weaponry. Myself, I like the fight style of DW much better than 2H--- it's faster and seems more brutal. I don't recall, though, ever seeing a curved, scimitar-type sword to use. Lol, sometimes, expectations just aren't met. And if most end-game players are honest, they probably don't really like the look of their end-game *legendary* weapon. Some of them are pretty generic. The prettiest weapons I've seen are actually in the mid 20s to mid 30s levels, across the board. That's probably just me, though :P

Endgame is headed into Rohan. Don't count on finding any elven-looking weapons in there.

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And if most end-game players are honest, they probably don't really like the look of their end-game *legendary* weapon. Some of them are pretty generic. The prettiest weapons I've seen are actually in the mid 20s to mid 30s levels, across the board. That's probably just me, though :P

Couldn't agree more. I was actually jealous of a passing lvl24 champ because they had the lvl22 greatsword and bow equipped, and IMO it looked so much nicer than the lightsabre and lightning rod glowing and twinkling on my back like they belong in Twilight and not Middle-Earth...

For a curved elven sword I have Malendol's Sword from Quest: Vol. II, Book 9, Chapter 6: Scouting Taur Morvith, that's a decent looking blade and even glows blue around Orcs like Sting. I kept it just for it's aesthetics. One of the crafted lvl65 Malledhrim swords also has a curved appearance.

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Endgame is headed into Rohan. Don't count on finding any elven-looking weapons in there.

With the Hobbit movies approaching, don't be surprised if end-game takes a detour through the Lonely Mountain. It's not all that far from Mirkwood.

Or maybe Northern Mirkwood./ Thranduil's Halls etc.

Anyway I agree with Feybobiam that calling DW or 2H 'supreme' over the other is rather ridiculous. Both have their advantages in specific situations.
When you are levelling up, Vorez, just pick w/e does the most dps while looking good. When you hit 75 you can start worrying about getting yourself a DW set and 2h so you can switch if needed.