Thread: Update 5: Armies of Isengard Release Notes - BULLROARER ONLY (B2)

The following release notes apply only to the Bullroarer Test Server. All changes and updates listed are subject to change before being released to the live servers. These release notes should be considered incomplete and subject to change at any time.

Please note: Bullroarer release notes are provided in English only. The final live release notes will be provided in English, German, and French.



Release Notes


General

• All containers now have particle effects to help distinguish them from the landscape.
• Fishing: All types of fish now have a max stack size of 100.
• Trollshaws: Elder Stonehoof boars found in South Trollshaws now drop Sturdy Hides occasionally.
• Fixed an issue that could prevent a new character who skipped the tutorial from receiving the Basic Training passive skill.
• The Ale Association quest “Inn League Disaster” unfortunately had to be removed from the game... Some changes were made to world event scheduling, and this quest did not get along well with the changes!
• Mounts - Both variants of the Galadhrim War-horse now have unique icons.

Instance Finder

• BULLROARER ONLY: You now see some chat spew when a fellow member chooses to leave the queue and so your request is dropped.
• BULLROARER ONLY: You now get some chat spew when your request gets dropped from the Instance Finder queue because your fellowship changed.
• BULLROARER ONLY: After everyone has confirmed their final assigned role for Instance Finder, the join UI will close itself while you wait to be teleported.
• BULLROARER ONLY: Instance Finder received some new buttons and different colored art.
• BULLROARER ONLY: There's some new text at the top of the various Instance Finder panels explaining what's going on. The buttons now change text depending on context. Unknown players in the “assigned roles” stage now show “(Unknown Player)”.
• BULLROARER ONLY: You now see which player was assigned which role when you enter the instance via Instance Finder. Also, logging out after everyone confirms but before you are ported into the encounter should now correctly grant you the recently cancelled effect.
• BULLROARER ONLY: The leader of an Instance-Finder-made fellowship can now dismiss a fellow who has gone linkdead.

Classes


Captain

• The Captain skill Tactics: Focus will now scale its effects after level 65.
• The various Song-brother skills will now affect the Herald's healing skills

Champion

• The Swift to Anger Trait now correctly identifies that it will alter the Swift Strike skill to become a frontal AoE skill with 3 targets called Swift Blade.
• The amount of fervour generated by the traited version of Exchange of Blows while in Glory has been reduced slightly. This is to ensure that the fervour generation while in Glory is not too great.

Guardian

• Guardian skill Take to Heart can no longer be Resisted.
• Guardian's Threat will no longer trigger a visual effect when other effects are applied to the guardian.
• The Guardian trait Heart of Fire will now improve the unified Critical Defence stat displayed on the character panel not each individual Melee/Ranged/Tactical Critical Defence shown on the tooltip.

Hunter

• Imp. Strength of the Earth Moral Legacy is now a flat percentage increase to morale amount, maxes at 40%.

Lore-master

• Sign of Power: Vigilance will now affect the pet's ability to see through stealth.
• Fixed an issue where the wrong icon was appearing for the debuff of Improved Sign of Power: Command
• The trait Dúnadan-learning will no longer allow for the Loremaster to stack buffs meant to be handled by the Master of Beasts trait.
• Sign of Battle: Wizard's Fire should now benefit from the legacy that enhances the damage done by the skill.
• The Deed, Magic Adept, was moved to a level 60 only skill as part of the Rise of Isengard launch. This has been fixed. Burning Embers will now increase this deed starting at level 30 in addition to Sticky Gourd. All improved versions of these skills will advance the deed as well.
• Display for the health gain portion of the legacy Morale - Sign of the Wild: Protection now displays correcty.
• A typo in the description of agility for Lore-masters has been fixed.
• A typo in the skill Knowledge of the Lore-master has been fixed.
• Outgoing healing will now affect the healing from the Sign of Battle: Wizard's Fire.

Minstrel

• The benefit of the Anthem of Compassion has been changed to: Places an effect on you that reduces threat generation by 5% for 30 seconds.
• Clarified the bonus on some instrument bonuses from a display of 0.XX to XX%
• Removed errant wording from the Song of the Hammerhand effects and skill tooltips.
• Outgoing healing will now affect the heal-over-time portion of the Improved Chord of Salvation.
• Monster players will no longer receive an error stating that they cannot use the Sturdy Steel Lockboxes, instead they will be told that they are missing the required key.

Warden

• Aggression now has the correct animation playing when used.
• Sound added to Shield Tactics.
• Animation for Shield tactics now uses the shield.
• Warden heals have been adjusted to scale with elevated monster damage added with RoI.
• The new effect that provides wardens with a boost in their partial defensives has had it's duration increased to 20 seconds

Monster Play

General

• Creep Delving potions no longer removed on death.
• Outnumbered Buffs “Akúlhun's Challenge” & “Lainedhal's Call to Arms” now increase Infamy/Glory Gains by 20%
• Freep Scaling Cloaks: Amount of finesse given on the the cloaks has been significantly increased.
• Brands and Insignias now provide Immunity and/or Dispels for Silences, Disarms, and Slows in addition to other Crowd Control effects.
• Mobilize speed buff reduced to 35%
• March! speed buff reduced to 25%
• Delving of Fror Movement Speed potions have been removed from barter and loot. Potions currently in player inventory will not be removed, but the effect will not stack with Mobilize and March and their potency has been reduced to 5/7/10% from 10/15/20%.

Blackarrow

• Revenge's critical chance and critical damage multipliers have been reduced.

Warg

• Flea Bitten now applies to enemies instead of the Warg.
• Long Strides now provides +5% Stealth Movement Speed
• Four-legged Foe now provides +5% Stealth Movement Speed
• Enhanced Stealth- Stealth Movement Speed buff increased by 10%

Warleader

• Purge now useable while in the “Knocked Out” state.

Instances, Raids, Skirmishes

General

• The Skirmish Soldier trait Ultimate Banner of Protection will now affect the unified Resistance stat displayed on the characte panel instead of individual resistances.

Skirmish Camp

• Reduced the prices of various crafting materials.
• Added tier 7 optional ingredients to crafting vendors. [Clump of Peat, Pinch of Westfold Herbs, Drop of Birch-tar, Bit of Pure Calenard, Inspired Note]
• Added tier 6 Craft XP recepies and ingredients.
• Added level 70 and 75 scrollcasses.
• Added Cracked Rhi Helvarch Sigil.

Draigoch

• Tweaked some logic and timing that should decrease the likelihood of him going braindead.

The School at Tham Mirdan

• Challenge quest now requires you to defeat Commander T?rsh in addition to saving the burning books

The Foundry (ALL BULLROARER ONLY)

• The last fight now has a slowly incrementing dot that is placed on players in the space. When the players flip over a change state to the forge, it will reset. This will require players to now pay more attention to all combatants.
• Steam Jets should now repeat.
• Steam Jets in Bellows room should now do damage.
• There should now be a way to leave the instance.
• Crushing Pillars - There is no longer a path on the left side of the room that players can make a clear run to the other side.
• Dhar's Tooltip appearance for Wreathed in Slag looks like a placeholer icon, and grammar issues in the text.
• Deed: Commanders of the Foundry, Tier 1 now advances on Tier 2.
• Enrage Buff and Bringing the Bosses together damage bonuses increased. [Feedback, Palantir]
• Trolls across the board are more dangerous. They now have a higher damage output.
• Now all monsters are spawning at appropriate level.
• The Forge room tiering effect no longer continues after the forge has been destroyed.
• One of the Lava Falls was floating in the fellows room.
• The Burning Wrath DoT now uses a fire icon rather than a poison one.
• The Bellows Troll now has a custom weapon
• The Piston room has been changed slightly.

Inn of the Forsaken

• Skeleton no longer spawning in the wall
• /stare no longer solving Riddle #17

Dol Guldur - Sammath Gul

• The firespout effect will occasionally spout our of the grates even when the player isn't in comabt with the boss following a wipe.

Forges of Isengard

• BULLROARER ONLY: Latent Poison applied by the palefolk will only stun the player if they are in combat.
  Legendary Items
• BULLROARER ONLY: Corrected the legendary point costs for Guardian Bleed Pulses, Burglar Pulse Modifier for Glee and Champion Rend Pulses.

Items

• The following items have been re-named
  • Dirge-singer's Gloves is now Dirge-singer's Bracers.
  • Dirge-singer's Robe is now Dirge-singer's Jacket.
  • Dirge-singer's Shoes is now Dirge-singer's Boots.
  • Hood of the Riddle Teller is now Helm of the Riddle Teller.
  • Hood of the Impossible Shot is now Helm of the Impossible Shot.
  • Spellweaver's Gloves is now Spellweaver's Bracers.
  • Spellweaver's Hood is now Spellweaver's Helm.
  • Spellweaver's Robe is now Spellweaver's Jacket.
  • Spellweaver's Shoes is now Spellweaver's Boots.
  • Gloves of the Clever Counselor is now Bracers of the Clever Counselor.
  • Hood of the Clever Counselor is now Helm of the Clever Counselor.
  • Robe of the Clever Counselor is now Jacket of the Clever Counselor.
  • Thadur's Shield of Old - The size of Thadur's Shield of Old is more in-line with other Warden's Shields.

Crafting

General

• Corrected text for all Supreme proficiency craft profession tutorial hints.

Woodworker

• Corrected the plural name of Westfold Nestad Infused Parchment.
• Slightly reduced the physical and tactical mitigations found on all “Steadfast Protector” / “Iron Will” Spear, Shield, and Fist Warden carvings.
• Corrected crafting panel categories for the following Woodworker recipes: Westfold Bow, Westfold Club.

Tailor

• Corrected the icon and description for the following recipe: Wyrmscale Cloak.

Metalsmith

• Renamed the Master Metalsmith Ancient Steel Scale recipe/item: “Elf-steel Scale”
  Prospector
• Renamed the Master Prospector Elven-steel Ingot recipe/item: “Elf-steel Ingot”

Originally Posted by Sapience

[*]The Ale Association quest “Inn League Disaster” unfortunately had to be removed from the game... Some changes were made to world event scheduling, and this quest did not get along well with the changes!

Aww, that IS unfortunate. This is one of my favorite festival quests. All the drunk dwarves moaning and that poor hobbit lass running off in despair. Well, hopefully someday it'll come back!

Originally Posted by Sapience

[*]The benefit of the Anthem of Compassion has been changed to: Places an effect on you that reduces threat generation by 5% for 30 seconds.

Whoa. That is a highly significant decrease! Right now it's -40% threat for 30 seconds (traited correctly). Why the change?

Originally Posted by Sapience

[*]Slightly reduced the physical and tactical mitigations found on all “Steadfast Protector” / “Iron Will” Spear, Shield, and Fist Warden carvings.

Ack. Seriously? Kicking a class when it's already down? Warden mitigations are already too low and the fix has been put off until U6. U5 is fixing our broken HoTs but - still - leaving us with too little in the way of defenses, by general agreement.

I am deeply confused by this decision to further lessen Warden mitigations.

Originally Posted by Sapience

[B][SIZE=3][/LIST]Blackarrow

• Revenge's critical chance and critical damage multipliers have been reduced.

I really must comment on this.

When you say reduce, do you mean that Revenge will crit less often than the BA's actual crit rating? So rather than the x% that is global to all skills and attacks, you think it should crit less often that game mechanics dictate.

The multipliers, if I am correct the skill gets the 50% from criticals and 100% from devastates. These are global to all skills and you think Revenge should not be subjected to the same game mechanics that all other skills are subjected to?

Originally Posted by Aloro

Ack. Seriously? Kicking a class when it's already down? Warden mitigations are already too low and the fix has been put off until U6. U5 is fixing our broken HoTs but - still - leaving us with too little in the way of defenses, by general agreement.

I am deeply confused by this decision to further lessen Warden mitigations.

Don't you know by now how turbine works?

If something needs a nerf, its done the next day.
If something needs a buff, it cant be done, there are some other bla bla bla stuff that need to be verified first, maybe doable in 3-4 months.

Delving of Fror Movement Speed potions have been removed from barter and loot. Potions currently in player inventory will not be removed, but the effect will not stack with Mobilize and March and their potency has been reduced to 5/7/10% from 10/15/20%.

Blackarrow

Revenge's critical chance and critical damage multipliers have been reduced.


Anw lets not talk about this now cause not a single nerf on minstrel or champion was made.ty


The march speed doesnt even feel 25% ooc runspeed dont lie to us we are not likw 10 years old

The new skins.....oh god...i dont believe this...

THIS IS A JOOOOOKE.Its like the new tree ppl asked for ettens and you gave us the one with the bird..
Lol how many ppl are laughing with us or think of having fun?

these are the worst skins iv ever seen in my entrire life..seriously... the dont even feel LIKE URUK anymore

The medallions and Seals... so cheap...just so cheap...making us to grindgasm for ages


Explain how we get those Sigils we get for items on moors


Thas so bad dammit.The games class reached the ultimate desired lvl(my opinion) and i dont wanna quit the game cause i likeit.And still you are making our time so hard :/

Whats wrong devs?care for your pockets only:/ dont make us feel like that.
Stop taking advantage of our love for the game for your pockets

I dont wanna look rude or smth.

IM JUST disappointed .sorry

Originally Posted by Sapience

Warg
Flea Bitten now applies to enemies instead of the Warg.
Long Strides now provides +5% Stealth Movement Speed
Four-legged Foe now provides +5% Stealth Movement Speed
Enhanced Stealth- Stealth Movement Speed buff increased by 10%

Faster stealthed than unstealthed, reminds me of burglars swimming faster stealthed

Originally Posted by Sapience

The School at Tham Mirdan

• Challenge quest now requires you to defeat Commander T?rsh in addition to saving the burning books

Ahhh. They finally fixed it.

Originally Posted by Tangaar

The new skins.....oh god...i dont believe this...

What new skins? There are no new skins.

./sad

Originally Posted by Tangaar

Anw lets not talk about this now cause not a single nerf on minstrel or champion was made.ty

Coda of Fury was significantly nerfed!

Originally Posted by Norana

Coda of Fury was significantly nerfed!

How significantly? Any figure?

Originally Posted by Sapience

Crafting
General

• Corrected text for all Supreme proficiency craft profession tutorial hints.

Woodworker

• Corrected the plural name of Westfold Nestad Infused Parchment.
• Slightly reduced the physical and tactical mitigations found on all “Steadfast Protector” / “Iron Will” Spear, Shield, and Fist Warden carvings.
• Corrected crafting panel categories for the following Woodworker recipes: Westfold Bow, Westfold Club.

Tailor

• Corrected the icon and description for the following recipe: Wyrmscale Cloak.

Metalsmith

• Renamed the Master Metalsmith Ancient Steel Scale recipe/item: “Elf-steel Scale”
  Prospector
• Renamed the Master Prospector Elven-steel Ingot recipe/item: “Elf-steel Ingot”

Still no word on fixing farming? How long are we going to have to wait to get Westfold Farming fixed? 1:1 crop to ingredient ratios are awful and need to be reverted back to 1 crop yields 4 ingredients.

Originally Posted by Sapience

[*]Slightly reduced the physical and tactical mitigations found on all “Steadfast Protector” / “Iron Will” Spear, Shield, and Fist Warden carvings.

Totally unacceptable.

Is the crafting Dev so utterly out of the loop?

You already broke the Wardens with RoI and mitigation by making them take @ 70% more damage vs. heavy armor wearers.

So NOW it was decided to give them even LESS mitigation?

Nail in the coffin Turbine.

Originally Posted by defrule

I really must comment on this.

When you say reduce, do you mean that Revenge will crit less often than the BA's actual crit rating? So rather than the x% that is global to all skills and attacks, you think it should crit less often that game mechanics dictate.

The multipliers, if I am correct the skill gets the 50% from criticals and 100% from devastates. These are global to all skills and you think Revenge should not be subjected to the same game mechanics that all other skills are subjected to?

I don't have a BA but doesn't skill itself have increased ratings? If not then yes, it makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Louvre

What new skins? There are no new skins.

./sad

there are new skins.go check racial trader

Originally Posted by Norana

Coda of Fury was significantly nerfed!

is that in the notes?i cant see it.plz post it to me

Originally Posted by flyingaround

Totally unacceptable.

Is the crafting Dev so utterly out of the loop?

You already broke the Wardens with RoI and mitigation by making them take @ 70% more damage vs. heavy armor wearers.

So NOW it was decided to give them even LESS mitigation?

Nail in the coffin Turbine.

Mitigation dropped from 1278 to 1261, rather insignificant IMHO. But that begs the question, if so insignificant a change, why do it at all, particularily in light of the negative publicity/ill feelings already generated????

Edit -- It wasn't really the crafting dev at fault here -- the change affects exisiting carvings.

Originally Posted by Sapience

[*]The benefit of the Anthem of Compassion has been changed to: Places an effect on you that reduces threat generation by 5% for 30 seconds.

Is this for today's build? I've just used Anthem of Compassion and I got an effect with -40% to threat generation for 20s. (That's with a +5s duration trait set bonus.)

I also see the words "Sets to True" on the Song of the Hammerhand skill/effect. I presume this is the errant text referred to in the notes.

Originally Posted by Feraxks

Mitigation dropped from 1278 to 1261, rather insignificant IMHO. But that begs the question, if so insignificant a change, why do it at all, particularily in light of the negative publicity/ill feelings already generated????

It might be a corrective change to these items' stats budget, in which case the politics is (thankfully) irrelevant.

If you're going to rage-quit over a reduction of 17 ratings on a test server, go right ahead.

Are there still placeholders for the new armour sets?

Originally Posted by Elinnea

Is this for today's build? I've just used Anthem of Compassion and I got an effect with -40% to threat generation for 20s. (That's with a +5s duration trait set bonus.)

I also see the words "Sets to True" on the Song of the Hammerhand skill/effect. I presume this is the errant text referred to in the notes.

I'm thinking they may have meant that is the effect when using the coda with AoC up. Right now the coda generates no threat when AoC is up. Instead, it's possible they have decided to replace this with a 30 second threat reduction for all skills.

Originally Posted by asearchforreason

I'm thinking they may have meant that is the effect when using the coda with AoC up. Right now the coda generates no threat when AoC is up. Instead, it's possible they have decided to replace this with a 30 second threat reduction for all skills.

Ohh, that makes sense. You're absolutely right, the AoC description now says -40% to threat generation for 30s with the Coda. That must be what it was referring to. I don't get an effect though - either it's an invisible effect or that's a bug.

Edit: Actually, now I'm confused: the text says it reduces threat generated by all skills for 30 seconds but then below that it says -40% to threat generation for 20s. That may be a tooltip typo.

Originally Posted by Sapience

• The Ale Association quest “Inn League Disaster” unfortunately had to be removed from the game... Some changes were made to world event scheduling, and this quest did not get along well with the changes!

Aw /sadpanda

Originally Posted by Sapience

Skirmish Camp

• Added Cracked Rhi Helvarch Sigil.

/happydance!!!

Originally Posted by Sapience

The School at Tham Mirdan

• Challenge quest now requires you to defeat Commander T?rsh in addition to saving the burning books

Actually quite glad to see this change.

Overall, things seems to be shaping up nicely.

Originally Posted by Reniannen

I don't have a BA but doesn't skill itself have increased ratings? If not then yes, it makes no sense.

The skill doesn't indicate any bonus whatsoever.

What I don't want is this:

My Blackarrow: 15% crit chance, 50% multipler on crits, 100% multiplier on devs

Nerfed revenge: 10% crit chance, 25% multiplier on crits, 50% multiplier on devs

It's exaggerated but basically it's what the nerf looks like. You now have a skill that crits less often than your actually crit % and doesn't follow the standard multiplier calculations.

Unless they mean they're nerfing the bonuses which we are not aware of and don't really see in practice.

Originally Posted by Sapience

The benefit of the Anthem of Compassion has been changed to: Places an effect on you that reduces threat generation by 5% for 30 seconds.

Wauw... going from 40% to 5% without any reasoning... you sure know how to nerf people... without any explanation, without any DEV commenting, nothing, just plain bam, NERFED.

And what a nerf too... not to 30% or so, no all the way to 5%, making the skill totally useless.

When there is some skill that gets a boost of 0.5%, then the DEVs show up and go ''oh, look at us, aren't we nice, look, look''. But when you make a skill totally useless, there is no DEV to be seen...

Good job, good job!!!

So the previous Warg damage buffs are gone now?

Warg

“Rend Flesh” now properly consumes the Critical Response when used.
“Rend Flesh” and “Sudden Pounce” base damage increased by 50%.
“Rend Flesh” power cost reduced
“Bloody Maul” base damage increased by 60%
Skills that do bonus positional damage are now called out in tooltips.
“Bestial Claws”, “Sudden Pounce”, and “Bloody Maul” damage increased
“Sudden Pounce” & “Bloody Maul” power costs increased
“Claws” power cost reduced
“Flea Bitten” fixed a bug that caused the effect to be applied to the Warg instead of enemies.

Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg

So the previous Warg damage buffs are gone now?

Warg

“Rend Flesh” now properly consumes the Critical Response when used.
“Rend Flesh” and “Sudden Pounce” base damage increased by 50%.
“Rend Flesh” power cost reduced
“Bloody Maul” base damage increased by 60%
Skills that do bonus positional damage are now called out in tooltips.
“Bestial Claws”, “Sudden Pounce”, and “Bloody Maul” damage increased
“Sudden Pounce” & “Bloody Maul” power costs increased
“Claws” power cost reduced
“Flea Bitten” fixed a bug that caused the effect to be applied to the Warg instead of enemies.

No, new notes only include what has changed from previous patch, to last one.

Are these just edits to the B1 notes or are all the Weaver/Warg etc changes listed in B1 no longer in effect? (Been a while since I watched B notes so I don't remember how they work)

Originally Posted by Sapience

Creep Delving potions no longer removed on death.
Brands and Insignias now provide Immunity and/or Dispels for Silences, Disarms, and Slows in addition to other Crowd Control effects.

Very Nice, looking forward to these changes. Slow immunity for brands/insignias seems like a bad idea though.

Originally Posted by Sapience

[B][SIZE=3]
March! speed buff reduced to 25%
Delving of Fror Movement Speed potions have been removed from barter and loot. Potions currently in player inventory will not be removed, but the effect will not stack with Mobilize and March and their potency has been reduced to 5/7/10% from 10/15/20%.

Bad, and you still need to make speed buffs affect spider pets.

Originally Posted by Sapience

Blackarrow
Revenge's critical chance and critical damage multipliers have been reduced.

Bad, but while your nerfing things that are overpowered like the wardens and BAs, can you please add another two or three bubbles for the minis and champs cause they are currently underpowered and have no dps or survivability (they obviously need them) /sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Sapience

[B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#ff0000][/LIST]Minstrel[LIST][*]The benefit of the Anthem of Compassion has been changed to: Places an effect on you that reduces threat generation by 5% for 30 seconds.[*]Clarified the bonus on some instrument bonuses from a display of 0.XX to XX%[*]Removed errant wording from the Song of the Hammerhand effects and skill tooltips.[*]Outgoing healing will now affect the heal-over-time portion of the Improved Chord of Salvation.[*]Monster players will no longer receive an error stating that they cannot use the Sturdy Steel Lockboxes, instead they will be told that they are missing the required key.

Can we please have an explanation as to the dramatic reduction in the Anthem of Compassion threat reduction? 40% to 5% is HUGE especially in terms of the threat we generate.

Also, what was the fifth bullet supposed to be? As the one currently there has to do with monster play and not the minstrel class.

To all those that have been asking how the Coda of Fury has been nerfed- here's an example: With three minor ballads and the anthem of war (additional tactical damage) on Crickhollow the top of my dps for the Coda is 3,026 whereas on Bullroarer with the exact same set-up it is 2,045. That is very significant, and quite frankly, I would like an explanation as to why they are doing this. For the first time minstrels could finally be viewed as something other then strictly a healing class. We were actually capable of dpsing in the Moors and having some fun. I want to know why Turbine seems determined to ruin that.

Originally Posted by Eldrandir

Are these just edits to the B1 notes or are all the Weaver/Warg etc changes listed in B1 no longer in effect? (Been a while since I watched B notes so I don't remember how they work)




Very Nice, looking forward to these changes. Slow immunity for brands/insignias seems like a bad idea though.



Bad, and you still need to make speed buffs affect spider pets.



Bad, but while your nerfing things that are overpowered like the wardens and BAs, can you please add another two or three bubbles for the minis and champs cause they are currently underpowered and have no dps or survivability (they obviously need them) /sarcasm.

Amazing post mate seriously

Thanks Kelsan for luring us To buy Roi and nerfing the classes.Go and hide now like most devs do after nerfs.no offence

To Orion - the reduction of Reprisal pipgen from 75% to 25% proc chance is too excessive, and produces insufficient pips in raid maintanking situations. 50% would be a more balanced amount.

Originally Posted by macdadg

Still no word on fixing farming? How long are we going to have to wait to get Westfold Farming fixed? 1:1 crop to ingredient ratios are awful and need to be reverted back to 1 crop yields 4 ingredients.

But that would be a farming BUFF and we all know they take 3-4 months to implement (if at all).

I think our only recourse is for every farmer to /bug it once a day until its fixed.

Originally Posted by Sapience

Warden

• Aggression now has the correct animation playing when used.
• Sound added to Shield Tactics.
• Animation for Shield tactics now uses the shield.
• Warden heals have been adjusted to scale with elevated monster damage added with RoI.
• The new effect that provides wardens with a boost in their partial defensives has had it's duration increased to 20 seconds

I went to Orthanc and solo'd a Troll and a couple of Orcs. At first, I was worried as I saw myself taking the enormous amount of damage as per live, but then as I started to stabilize and get my rotations out (I used Masteries to get my Shield Mastery, Shield Tactics, Wall of Steel and Dance of War up and then I started self heals), I noticed my Morale going up... and up... and up... 324 from Restoration, 324 from Conviction right on top of one another... and I also saw my Partial buffs staying up longer than they used to (from the previous patch). When I saw my power dip, I potted and then I started to Morale surf... and the insides of my gut started to get that giddy feeling again. Then, I decided to throw in some Morale Leeches... and I saw on top of my HoTs some Morale coming from the mobs... and it was ticking for around 200+!! And I was FULLY SHIELD TRAITED!!

Oh man... I was like

GRANTED: I was still taking lots of damage compared to a heavy armored tank, taht frustrated feeling I normally get when I'm tanking something difficult wasn't there. We're not quite there yet, but IMO, we're good enough to not count out. The real test will be how we perform out in the Moors against sub-teen ranked Creeps.

I'm scared that by making this post that I might cause some more nerfs, but I just had to post how I felt this morning.

EDIT: I was using Exultation of Battle and then following up with Resolution for two rotations before I started my Shield buffs and HoTs again.

So, what´s going on with TWDNKU? will its CD finally changing to 5 mins as promised (twice)?

I prefer not to ask for (needed) Rk changes as i guess some classes get changes=nerfs... , In anyways, the change of MF for avoiding the "bug" of spamming it, makes it horrible, which can be considered a nerf (and before you all start it, no, i didn´t use the iEoF + MF at all).

So about 1200 seals per set.
With 30 seals per skirmish, that is 90, and doing say 3 a week (since you need a "full" raid and all), that is 30 weeks or nearly a year...
Surely by then it will be time to level up again or at least trade for the next amour to come along.

Going for all three sets at 3 skirmishes a week and then you get to have fun for some 90 weeks, or nearly 1.5 year.
I suppose if you are in an active kin, 6 skirmishes a week would reduce the required week to only 45, or 15 weeks (4 months) for the first set.

And that is if the number of seals stay at 30 of course. (And we do not always get 30 even).

Adding insult to injury, we also need to get the two other currency types (Have not bothered to look at those yet).

So.... I take it we will be able to buy seals in the store then, yes?

Originally Posted by RandallSnow

To Orion - the reduction of Reprisal pipgen from 75% to 25% proc chance is too excessive, and produces insufficient pips in raid maintanking situations. 50% would be a more balanced amount.

Agreed. It's a significant nerf to champion tanking in general, in order to correct an issue that mostly crops up in trash pulls. 50% would be more reasonable.

Originally Posted by Eldrandir

Bad, but while your nerfing things that are overpowered like the wardens and BAs, can you please add another two or three bubbles for the minis and champs cause they are currently underpowered and have no dps or survivability (they obviously need them) /sarcasm.

Clearly biased from a Creep point of view. The Warden is the most broken class at the moment, it´s worse than the weakest Creep class, while the BA is the third strongest class after Champion and Minstrel

That´s a fact. BA´s are OP, as are Champs and Minstrels. I´m happier with just one of them nerfed than none (though the best would be nerf all three and buff Wardens, then the Moors might be actually balanced)

ok guys need a anser here the 2 5% run speed from wargs are going to increase steath speed now? what about incombat run speed as it now works well for kiting freeps? when freeps run off wargs need that 10% incombat to stop them with out it it would be a crazy major nerf.. please ecuxe spelling ty

Hmm these minstrel notes are interesting... guess the best way to reduce threat is to not heal anyone. That should work out well.

Originally Posted by Chris91

Clearly biased from a Creep point of view. The Warden is the most broken class at the moment, it´s worse than the weakest Creep class, while the BA is the third strongest class after Champion and Minstrel

That´s a fact. BA´s are OP, as are Champs and Minstrels. I´m happier with just one of them nerfed than none (though the best would be nerf all three and buff Wardens, then the Moors might be actually balanced)

The whole thing was sarcastic, I know very well wardens are broken at the moment and that BAs are OP, but the evade buff not the Revenge crit is what needs to be hit. As for creep PoV, my freeps are higher ranked then my creeps so I know what both sides can do. The Moors will never be balanced though, that's just a fact.