Thread: Eldar PvE Raiding progression - Volume III: Allies of the King/ Rise of Isengard

The idea of this thread is to show the community the status of progression of the various kinships on Eldar[EN], with the PvE 12 & 24 man raiding content within the game.

Other Eldar sever progression threads:
Volume I: SoA - http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...dows-of-Angmar
Volume II: MoM/SoM - http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...ge-of-Mirkwood
Volume III: AotK/RoI - http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...se-of-Isengard

- If you get into the top 5 please be kind and submit the mandatory screenshot. (some suggestions {date, time, names, deed completed ect ect} a combination of these is satisfactory)
- For other kins i will accept your kin leader/officers word for it but i will add the screenshot if you provide one. It's your kin reputation on the line if you post false information.
- If a kin completes an encounter on Tier2, the Tier1 mode of that encounter will be seen as cleared !!

- Alliance kills will be added in the Appendices section at the bottom of the list.
- An Alliance kill is when the raid is comprised of participants from 2 or more kinships. Although kinships that are affiliated with each other can be counted as 1 kinship if requested and added to the regular list. (e.g Group that has two kinships for different purposes but count themselves as the same group/kinship)

- Feel free to use this thread to grats other kinships and talk about loot from the bosses.
- I kindly request to keep the bickering to a minimum
- if you have a problem regarding this thread, someone's screenshot or kill validity, send me (smithie) a forum PM or in-game tell about it.

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Tower of Orthanc (12-man raid)

Cleared all bosses on Tier 2: Challenge mode
(1) The Mellowship -> Screenshot
(2) Illuminati -> Screenshot
(3) -
(4) -
(5) -
After nr 5 all other kins will be mentioned in alphabetical order
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Tier 2: Challenge progression
The wings/bosses behind the kins name means they still need to complete those to get on the "T2 Challenge cleared" list above
# Polaris -> Fire&Ice
# The Council of Light -> Saruman
# Ekseriyet -> Fire&Ice/Saruman
# Critical -> Fire&Ice/Shadow/Saruman
# Risen -> Fire&Ice/Shadow/Saruman
# Rohirrim riders -> Fire&Ice/Shadow/Saruman
# Aurora Borealis -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Pata Negra -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Last Sons of Gondolin -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Legends of MiddleEarth -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Solstice -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# The Last Kings -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Yggdrasil ->Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman



Cleared all bosses on Tier 2
(1) The Mellowship
(2) Illuminati
(3) The Council of Light
(4) Polaris
(5) -
After nr 5 all other kins will be mentioned in alphabetical order
#

Tier 2 progression
The wings/bosses behind the kins name means they still need to complete those to get on the "T2 cleared" list above
# Critical -> Saruman
# Ekseriyet -> Saruman
# Risen -> Saruman
# Rohirrim riders -> Saruman
# Solstice -> Saruman
# Aurora Borealis -> Shadow/Saruman
# Legends of MiddleEarth -> Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Yggdrasil -> Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Bulgaria -> Lightning/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Pata Negra -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# Last Sons of Gondolin -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman
# The Last Kings -> Fire&Ice/Acid/Shadow/Saruman


Cleared all bosses on Tier 1
kins are mentioned in alphabetical order
# Heroes of Eriador
# Illuminati
# Kalevala Syndicate
# Last Sons of Gondolin
# Lorebreakers
# Noble House
# Pata Negra
# Polaris
# Risen
# Rohirrim Riders
# Solstice
# Straznicy Amon Sul
# Svenska Krigare
# The Council of Light
# The Last Kings
# The Mellowship
# Yggdrasil




Draigoch's Lair (12-man raid)

Defeated Draigoch with Tier 2: Challenge mode
(1) - The Mellowship -> Screenshot
(2) - Polaris -> Screenshot
(3) - ERA -> Screenshot
(4) - Critical -> Screenshot
(5) - Legends of MiddleEarth -> Screenshot
After nr 5 all other kins will be mentioned in alphabetical order
# Children of Eru
# Dutch Peacekeepers
# Ekseriyet -> Screenshot
# Heroes of Eriador
# Last Sons of Gondolin
# Lord of the Drinks -> Screenshot
# Lorebreakers -> Screenshot
# Noble House
# Pata Negra
# Risen
# Rohirrim riders
# Serenity
# Straznicy Amon Sul -> Screenshot
# Solstice
# Svenska Krigare
# The Defenders -> Screenshot
# Yggdrasil




Ost Dunoth (12-man raid)

Cleared all bosses on Tier 2: Challenge mode
(1) - The Mellowship
(2) - Polaris
(3) - Critical
(4) - ERA
(5) - Risen
After nr 5 all other kins will be mentioned in alphabetical order
# Ekseriyet
# Lord of the Drinks
# Lorebreakers
# Yggdrasil


Tier 2: Challenge progression
The wings/bosses behind the kins name means they still need to complete those to get on the "T2 Challenge cleared" list above
# Solstice -> Gortheron
# The Council of Light ->Fear/Gortheron
# Serenity -> Wound/Fear/Ivar/Gortheron
# Spartans -> Wound/Fear/Ivar/Gortheron


Cleared all bosses on Tier 1
kins are mentioned in alphabetical order
# Alpha Company
# Critical
# Dutch Peacekeepers
# Ekseriyet
# ERA
# Legends Of MiddleEarth
# Lord of the Drinks
# Lore Breakers
# Nightmare on elf street
# Nost Mellyn
# Pata Negra
# Polaris
# Risen
# Rohirrim Riders
# Solstice
# Svenska Krigare
# The Council of Light
# The Defenders
# The Mellowship
# Yggdrasil







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Appendices (Additionale information)


Ost Dunoth - before RoI expansion (12-man raid)

All bosses Tier 2: Challenge mode at lvl 65
(1) - The Mellowship
(2) - Polaris
(3) - Critical
(4) - ERA
(5) - Risen
After nr 5 all other kins will be mentioned in alphabetical order
# Ekseriyet


Tier 2: Challenge progression at lvl 65
The wings/bosses behind the kins name means they still need to complete those to get on the "T2 Challenge cleared" list above
# Lorebreakers -> Gortheron
# Solstice -> Gortheron
# Lord of the Drinks -> Fear/Gortheron
# The Council of Light ->Fear/Gortheron

Not finished updating full list.

Please let me know if your kinship has done T1 OD.
Same if any kins have recently completed T2 OD challenge.
And ofcourse post if you get draigoch down.

I will ad the new "update 5" RoI raid instance(s) here as well when they are released.

nice thread

Polaris did T2 challenge 5.10.2011


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Good job guys i hope you got better loot than we did .

grats Polaris added you guys to the list

Congratulations Polaris dudes!

Gratz guys!

Although I don't understand why it's not all alphabetical? The only way to clear the boss is to be extremely lucky and not get the anti-exploit mode from what I've read.

Originally Posted by Epicguy2

Although I don't understand why it's not all alphabetical? The only way to clear the boss is to be extremely lucky and not get the anti-exploit mode from what I've read.

I don't believe it was just coincidence that Mellowship claimed another server first kill, but that's just me.

Originally Posted by Nipsu

I don't believe it was just coincidence that Mellowship claimed another server first kill, but that's just me.

It was not a coincidence for sure, as I think it's the only kinship on this server, that has enough time to quickly bring full raid team to 75, to enter a raid.

Gratz Polaris, well done

Originally Posted by Epicguy2

Gratz guys!

Although I don't understand why it's not all alphabetical? The only way to clear the boss is to be extremely lucky and not get the anti-exploit mode from what I've read.

Actually there is no luck involved at all. We tried it quite many times in a row and didn't get a single anti-exploit mode on those tries.

Smuff I'm disappointed you removed your thesis that levelling 65>75 takes only 16 hrs. I assume you realized your mistake then?

Originally Posted by Reekwind

Actually there is no luck involved at all. We tried it quite many times in a row and didn't get a single anti-exploit mode on those tries.

What about CJs? Did you trial and error or used some tips during the fight?

Originally Posted by Trickstah

What about CJs? Did you trial and error or used some tips during the fight?

Yes, it just needed many hours of hard work and lots of trial and error.

Originally Posted by Reekwind

Yes, it just needed many hours of hard work and lots of trial and error.

So there's an element of luck. Some can be more lucky and figure out proper CJs faster than others. Damn, that's a very bad design If there would be some hints what CJ should be used, even some riddles maybe - it could be awesome. But pure trial and error? Meh.....

Anyway, grats Polaris.

Well done Mellows and Polaris.

Originally Posted by Trickstah

It was not a coincidence for sure, as I think it's the only kinship on this server, that has enough time to quickly bring full raid team to 75, to enter a raid.

Both kins call themselves raiding kinships, its their dedication which makes the difference. I believe its their individual player's decision too to level as quick as possible to achieve something like that.

Originally Posted by Trickstah

So there's an element of luck.

No luck involved at all, it's all based on common sense and maths.

Grats finish

Originally Posted by Trickstah

So there's an element of luck. Some can be more lucky and figure out proper CJs faster than others. Damn, that's a very bad design If there would be some hints what CJ should be used, even some riddles maybe - it could be awesome. But pure trial and error? Meh.....

Anyway, grats Polaris.

Trickstah, I don't want to steal your illusion but there is indeed a riddle to be solved here that will reduce the number of possible CJs (called "variations" in combinatorics) to around 16 in each group. With those 16 left you go for the patterns that go easy on your eyes and you're down to around 4-6. Then there is still a bit of trial and error but with this reduced set you'll get the right ones quickly. Needless to say groups that get this will do it much faster than groups that don't. Maybe you let this clue pass by..

Originally Posted by Trickstah

So there's an element of luck. Some can be more lucky and figure out proper CJs faster than others. Damn, that's a very bad design If there would be some hints what CJ should be used, even some riddles maybe - it could be awesome. But pure trial and error? Meh.....

Trickstah m8 , tis not really luck. There are already known cj's that give some obvious possibilities, from that point on u use ur brain and experiment. Tis no different than any other raid, the only bad thing in it is the huge time sink required to reach at each phase and then u have to restart and go all over again to try that phase and experiment with it and figure how to go on.

GZ to Polaris and mellows wonder who's gonne be next

Gratz Polaris.

Grats Polaris!!! good job

Hmm, to give yourself a real challenge, you should complete it with the only gear you're allowed to use is a dress.

Updated the Ost Dunoth lists. Now you can see how far each kinship is to completing all bosses on T2 Challenge. And i will update it if you post your progression.

The information was taken from this list here: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...er-Progression

ERA has complete the Draigoch T2 HM, after several nights spent trying to figure the tactics.

Will add screen in a min.

Critical also killed the drake...
one of our guys will post a screeny soon
(would be sooner if forums werent down)

Ekseriyet also completed Draigoch T2 HM

Legends of Middle-Earth cleared the raid the raid the 15th t2 HM

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5...nshot00345.jpg

Originally Posted by Chewie-nl

Legends of Middle-Earth cleared the raid the raid the 15th t2 HM

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5...nshot00345.jpg

Draigoch t2 Challenge Cleared!
great work for LoME
15/10/2011 at 3:10 PM (Server Time)

please all others kins post pic with server time stamp!

think that is impossible to ask now... since people didnt know that servers went down

Originally Posted by Soupboy

think that is impossible to ask now... since people didnt know that servers went down

Yes but now that we will know when and who?

Originally Posted by GR-SimonZ

Yes but now that we will know when and who?

i know for a fact how it went after polaris and mellows:
3rd ERA
4th Critical
after that wasnt looking :P

but anyway... since this forum thing situation... prob the best that after this we just go who killed it who didnt...
the boss is easy cake....

screenshot with t2 challenge plz...

Originally Posted by Soupboy

4th Critical
after that wasnt looking :P

You can easily post a screen shot and everyone will be happy

Not really need a screenshot tbh , just look at your forum details and see when u completed the deed about Draigoch :P

As for the kill order I think it is Mellows , Polaris , ERA, Critical , then it is either LOME or Risen then the PUG then Eskeriyet.


P.S. ERA has provided Smithie a screenshot during the forums downtime

P.S.2 The Boss fight is easy, as soon as you figure out the CJ's and the phase mechanics. Ofc now you can read forums for cj's and watch youtube for the phases....

Originally Posted by PAchoz

it was a very easy and boring raid boss imo.

GRATS all ... yeah it was long fight.. but i can say it is the best, well-designed raid in lotro ever ....
(graphic details of the dragon and surroudings are amazing)

I cant wait to see what they will gonna do with the upcoming new raid

Ekseriyet have completed it yesterday (17th) and not too bothered with killing order tbh since it was a very easy and boring raid boss imo.

Gz to all kins that have completed the challenge!

gratz to all the kins that downed the boss

Updated the list.

Spoke to an officer/leader of the kins and the result is such:
3)ERA - 11/10
4)Critical - 13/10
5)LOME - 15/10
6)Ekseriyet - 17/10

ERA did indeed send me their screenshot link in-game before the weekend. Critical's screenshot is still pending, so please post one soon Soupboy or anyone else from Critical.

http://bildr.no/view/1003615

Critical downed Draigoch thursday 13.10.11.

I do not have a screenie which can provide any proof that we did down him this date, but you can check my character log for deeds if you still hesitate...

- Endu

Solstice killed Draigoch T2 challenge 16.10.2011.

Check forum details for deed log.