Thread: Tired of the Ranger yet?

There is a simple solution. Let the freeps take back the relics so they can level faster and then you'll get many more freeps to come out thus, not having the outnumbered buff and not being able to play as the ranger.

I understand that it's fun killing freeps and it's your right to do so, nobody can tell you how to play. In the end though, have some brains about it. I was told some creeps jumped a group trying to take relics and they killed 2 freeps before they got wiped. I hope those 2 kills were worth it when you realized that the freeps logged afterwards.

I cant count how many people cried when we would come out and flip Lugz right away making them log. If you haven't noticed, we stopped and found other ways to get tokens and gear. Don't make mistakes though, we can easily start doing it again

It's not that easy. There will always be a ton of creeps now that it's f2p. It's going to be rare that freeps won't be outnumbered. I'm for either side, honestly because of these new changes. But when its 5 on 4 + a ranger...it's pretty ridiculous...

rly 3% is not a big help use your dp use your tp stop crying because we came to DG and wiped you guys. Get over it its a gae people can lvl just as fast you and freia made it whats wrong with the rest of you its 10 lvls big woop and pouncer you wernt even out here so Y you posting about it did they rly complain that bad wow buck up and come out in force.
Happy hunting
Calidog

Point One: No It wouldn't help theres a million and one reavers out so not likely your not gonna have the ON buff

Point Two: Just b/c you were to have relics wouldn't stop anyone to use the ranger

Point Three: I see what your getting at but people will use ranger as they please

Point Four: I dont mind it much, dont affect me to be killed from him plus as soon as you surround him with 4 or 5 creeps he's screwed so not that hard to kill

Point Five: I laugh at watching greenies get dropped instantly

Point Six: Yes we did attack a group of freeps at DG they killed me, darn, but as soon as we start to attack the ranger they ran but I understand that facing a pack of wargs a defiler and a reaver plus tyrant may not be thier cup of tea.

If you want the relic your going to have to wait for your comrads to get mad skillz and lvl without buff or buy a exp boosts from the turbine store or use destiny points they'll give you the same amount of exp gain if not more.

Sorry for guarding our lootz

-Ittybitty

Eh, many ppl could use the exp buff since not all of us were crafty enough to fill the questlog with quests before the update, thus effectively skipping the whole lvl 66, and I hear many people complaining that they're at 73 or 74 and out of quests. But hey, I am not gonna brave the wargs and reavers you had there and try to take down the tyrant at the same time. Guess the other people will have to do dailies and skirms to get to lvl 75.

Greenie reavers drop like grass under a mower though, and I was in Glory, not Fervour, and not geared out yet 8-). It should be much more crowded and much more fun in a few days!

The Ranger was out and about for a good long time before you guys hit DG, so saying, "Hey, let us snag relics or we'll keep the Ranger out!!" is disingenuous.

Folks are grabbing the Ranger and getting off on plowing through Reavers so new they still have price tags on them. The ON Buff is not going away anytime soon while the flood of new reavers has only a handful of freeps that are max level to play with.

For someone that wasn't even there, this post kind of smacks of bad board-politics-spin attempt failure. I guess the "omg, they won't let us PvE even when we HAVE the ranger in our group!" crying in your Kin Chat reached a decibel level where you had to respond somehow, eh? It was a riot that you all mapped out and left the Ranger to get faceplanted. Go team!!

It is fun killing the Ranger though. 3 have dropped so far today to groups I've been in. It's not a harrowing as you're imagining it to be

lol. This thread doesn't make sense to me. I wasn't aware all the people rolling rangers were doing it because freeps don't have the relics and not because it's fun to 1shot greenie reavers. If creeps wanna stop freeps from taking a relic, just lick your wounds and go at it again later. Don't make a thread to let them know how butthurt you got about it.

getting off on plowing through Reavers so new they still have price tags on them


This made my night LOL

Originally Posted by Goodyear2007

lol. This thread doesn't make sense to me. I wasn't aware all the people rolling rangers were doing it because freeps don't have the relics and not because it's fun to 1shot greenie reavers. If creeps wanna stop freeps from taking a relic, just lick your wounds and go at it again later. Don't make a thread to let them know how butthurt you got about it.

Your fellow freep made this post. Perhaps you should read through the thread again before blaming the creeps for something.

Originally Posted by rev83

Your fellow freep made this post. Perhaps you should read through the thread again before blaming the creeps for something.

Um...he's on our side of this thread? lmao

Originally Posted by caliboy14

rly 3% is not a big help use your dp use your tp stop crying because we came to DG and wiped you guys. Get over it its a gae people can lvl just as fast you and freia made it whats wrong with the rest of you its 10 lvls big woop and pouncer you wernt even out here so Y you posting about it did they rly complain that bad wow buck up and come out in force.
Happy hunting
Calidog

Caliboy...I cant take you seriously.

I'll put this into easier terms. If other freeps level faster then there will be a lot more numbers on freepside. You cannot get the ranger without the outnumbered buff. Do the math. Fighting freeps gives benefits not fighting the ranger so the longer it takes them to level the longer the creeps will wait.

In the infamous words of Erlessa: less QQ, more pewpew. Should help you gain those levels a lil' faster.

Originally Posted by hushbbhush

In the infamous words of Erlessa: less QQ, more pewpew. Should help you gain those levels a lil' faster.

+rep

123456

Originally Posted by AlmontRaider

You cannot get the ranger without the outnumbered buff. Do the math.

If i had to complain about something it'd be that the ranger steals my KBs (usually by oneshotting a nice greenie, lol) -_-
./sigh(-ed)

Thorfinn

PS - Sorry Itty for the 1v1 near TR, during the first ~15 secs or more i had to talk on the phone so could only move around, lol >.<. I am gonna whoop ya @ 75...I hope

I don't think you guys understand this post at all. Bottom line is this.... We don't care about the relics as much as you should. If you let the freeps have them you wouldn't be running around with nothing to do nearly as long. Most of KoC is already 75 and you won't see us out until we finish all the new content and get geared properly. In the meantime enjoy running around and counting little greenie men and receiving infamy from quests. Thank you.

Civ

You having the relics isn't going to get you geared faster. Have fun with the dragon.

Originally Posted by rev83

You having the relics isn't going to get you geared faster. Have fun with the dragon.

I give up. Common sense is not a creep strength apparently. This thread is a lost cause.

Common sense?

This thread wasn't started by some Creep player complaining about the Ranger. It was a moan about ONE GROUP that included the Ranger getting stopped while going for relics, by someone who wasn't even there. Then some nonsensical fail-spin argument purporting that allowing Freeps that 3% from Relics would somehow make the Ranger go away and we're just hurting ourselves by actually PvPing while the Ranger is out...

Thin spin is thin.

Let me see if I can simplify this even more for you.

Relics = 3% exp gain = freeps finish leveling sooner = no outnumber buff = no ranger.

Also if you haven't thought it over, which I'm sure you haven't.....

3% exp gain = freeps finish leveling sooner = more freeps out for you to fight = more infamy = more fun.

I promise you that this is why Discipline posted this in the first place. Some of you are just too new to pvp to realize the problem. Besides.... what good is an infamy boost if you have nothing to kill?

Last time I post on this one.

Like I said earlier, lving faster isn't going to get you geared up faster; unless you mean that KoC can't do the 12-man raid on their own without the other raiding kins getting to 75. If that is what you mean, then I can sort of relate to what you're saying. But everyone being at 75 isn't going to help KoC get geared any faster than the few of you that obviously have no lives and are already 75.

QQ, pew pew. I like it.

This thread isn't about KoC... it's about freeps leveling faster and getting out into the moors to you guys. If you don't get the point then it really doesn't matter. Enjoy a couple extra days of no real action out there. I care lots.

PS. All good endgame gear has a minimum level of 75, which means you have to be level 75 to wear it.... so.... Please ask the question again.

I'll ask the question again: What does everyone else getting to 75 have to do with KoC getting to 75? It doesn't. You just want an excuse for running around with a ranger so that you can hit the creep once and have the ranger finish them off; too many cowardly freeps who are afraid of fighting a sentient being. I saw it plenty last night. Your group was strong enough to fight the hordes of greenies out there, but you'd rather sit behind the easy-mode ranger and let him get the kills for you.

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

This thread isn't about KoC... it's about freeps leveling faster and getting out into the moors to you guys.

Please take the time to read things before you make yourself look worse.

Freeps don't need to be 75 to come out to the moors. Freeps have been coming out to the moors since level 66; I just so happened to kill three of them. Does that mean that they have a fun time? No, absolutely not. But they will be back when they feel as if they stand a chance. I have seen plenty of 71 and 73 freeps in the groups over the past few nights. You don't need to have the relics to get to 75, which is what this post was originally about. You just want a reason to PvE in a PvP zone, a la KoC. If you want some better reading material, go make a post about how the KoC just loves the PvP, not the PvE, available in the moors; and I'm sure we'll get plenty of reading material coming in.

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

This thread isn't about KoC... it's about freeps leveling faster and getting out into the moors to you guys.

Alright then, everyone who's not a KoC here please step up and state your claim about the creeps hoarding the relics and how it affects your PvE. Anyone? Anyone?... oh, I think I see one! No, wait... that's a KoC, too...

The 3% is in honesty, jack all. Percentage wise, every 24 hours of game time you put into leveling it shaves off half to three quarters of an hour.

Even still pointing that this small boost helps in some way will probably not get freeps the relics back, seeing as the hordes of f2p greenie reavers in most likeliness do not frequent the forums

I have still seen some action in the moors, whether its a couple of pre 75 freeps running round pounding reaver skull (thorfin easily cut down 6+ at lvl 74), or some others who want to come out and 1v1 to test their shiny new faces out. Even though they're not geared out fully or even at the lvl cap, they still seem to be having fun and I'm thankful to them for giving some creeps a rough insight into what we have ahead of us (even though things can only get allot tougher :P )

Whenever I've seen somebody rolling a ranger all they do is sit in ec and try to 1 shot greenies, I guess kinda annoying for unsuspecting fluff bunnies, but not a huge problem.

I actually could have used the 3% a lot the past days, but w/e, lol. I SHALL COME AND CLAIM MY RELICS ONCE I GATHER THE STRENGHT TO LVL MY NEXT TOON TO 75 :P. Anyways, here to remind everyone - FUN IS GOOD! Don't fight with words but with fists/swords/bows/sticks and yes, even magical rocks for all you RKs out there, hehe (it's more effective, hehe)

many of freeps are not interested in level, just work on set and craft, and not 3% that will make the difference

we are superior we are elitism we aint gonna come out unless we are geared.

do we need to pay u back the 3% exp when we get to lv75?

I think I'd rather try and teach a fish how to breath oxygen than repeat myself to a bunch of half-witted ezmode creeps. Like I said.... enjoy the pve infamy.

That's because you couldn't kill a decent creep on your own on their worst day. And the rest of your freepy friends aren't out there since you don't have your measly 3%.

Edit: It was early. I messed my math up.

@civ stop being a drama queen its old man for real... grow up already the world of lorto does not go around you an koc...

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

Let me see if I can simplify this even more for you.

Relics = 3% exp gain = freeps finish leveling sooner = no outnumber buff = no ranger.

Also if you haven't thought it over, which I'm sure you haven't.....

3% exp gain = freeps finish leveling sooner = more freeps out for you to fight = more infamy = more fun.

I promise you that this is why Discipline posted this in the first place. Some of you are just too new to pvp to realize the problem. Besides.... what good is an infamy boost if you have nothing to kill?

Last time I post on this one.

ok let's get into the math of this arguement shall we? lvl 74 to 75 is approximately 670000k experience. 3% of that would be 20100 experience. With rest experience this is about what, one skirm? If you are against skirming and just decide, "Hey I'll just grind kills this last 20k." you would have to kill about 34 mobs at around 600 boosted experience. So, letting the freeps have the relics in the end let's them get one level about ten minutes faster?
/sarcasm on
Wooohooo!!!! Creeps give us those relics!

/sarcasm off

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

I think I'd rather try and teach a fish how to breath oxygen than repeat myself to a bunch of half-witted ezmode creeps. Like I said.... enjoy the pve infamy.

LoL
I just couldn't take it................ROFL
You really are the shortest straw. Out of a million s p e r m, you were the fastest?

What is it you add to this server anyway? NOTHING. You add trouble, subtract pleasure, divide attention, and multiply ignorance.

HAHAHAHAHlol

your friend
Krool

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

I think I'd rather try and teach a fish how to breath oxygen than repeat myself to a bunch of half-witted ezmode creeps. Like I said.... enjoy the pve infamy.

What part of that phrase makes sence? When did being a creep become easy?

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

Let me see if I can simplify this even more for you.

Relics = 3% exp gain = freeps finish leveling sooner = no outnumber buff = no ranger.

Also if you haven't thought it over, which I'm sure you haven't.....

3% exp gain = freeps finish leveling sooner = more freeps out for you to fight = more infamy = more fun.

I promise you that this is why Discipline posted this in the first place. Some of you are just too new to pvp to realize the problem. Besides.... what good is an infamy boost if you have nothing to kill?

Last time I post on this one.

Specifically it would be leveling 3% faster...nothing to write home about. Besides as you say folks weren't going to come out until they were "geared properly". I actually agree with the thought that it might minorly speed up things. On the other hand keeping that relic helps the Green Liberation Orc Front rank faster as well. Nice to have a meat shield with some meat on it's bones.

I will say on the plus side nice to see KoC (well champs, hunters and burgs) anyways out today. Nice fighting you. Please come out more.

P.S. Why would anyone play a guard anymore with Champs stupidly hard to kill? I guess you still need em to get champs their gear.

"As water flows through the gills, the oxygen it contains (dissolved oxygen) passes into blood circulating through the gill structures (filaments and lamellae) while simultaneously, carbon dioxide ( the waste product) in the fish’s bloodstream passes into the water. This deoxygenated water is then carried away and out of the body through the operculum. This process repeats itself continually and this is the process by which fish breathe. This is process is also known as respiration."

Thanks Civ now I'm edumacated!

Originally Posted by Gimlyn

I think I'd rather try and teach a fish how to breath oxygen than repeat myself to a bunch of half-witted ezmode creeps.

In around 3rd grade biology in half-witted ezmode creep school, I'm pretty sure they taught us that fish really do breathe oxygen...
(edit: grr the above post beat me by 6 minutes)

They also taught us that freeps are gonna come out to have a good time and fight in the moors no matter who takes relics. You know, I appreciate the fights, and was actually glad to see you all out there turning the map blue and fighting us. But threatening to take your ball and go home cause we turn the map red and take relics is just laughable.

I like many of you guys, but your kin is developing a sense of Tsubaka-itis lately. Yeah, you're pretty good... but you're just not *that* important to Crick as a whole that you can tell us how to play and what to capture

Dear god, they're going to PvE if we don't let them keep the relics! Have mercy!