Thread: Lorebook and Rise of Isengard

I would like to know if Lorebook is being updated at the same time as RoI goes live? I would like to keep my "to-do lists" questing-wise up to date...

Originally Posted by Gilean-EU

I would like to know if Lorebook is being updated at the same time as RoI goes live? I would like to keep my "to-do lists" questing-wise up to date...

General rule of thumb: When the game update goes live, we aim to have the Lorebook updated the day after. So, earliest you'll see RoI content will be Tuesday.

NOTE: The Google Map tiles will not be updated for this release of the Lorebook. No ETA on when Dunland, etc. will be added to the map. You can still filter advanced searches based on region, see points on the map w/loc data, but the actual mini-map terrain/parchment map detail will not be available.

All right, thanks for the answer! I guess the reason why I remember lorebook being up-to-date on the launch day or even few days earlier is because we Europeans used to get patch few days (or few weeks ) later than people in US.

Originally Posted by Duwis

NOTE: The Google Map tiles will not be updated for this release of the Lorebook. No ETA on when Dunland, etc. will be added to the map. You can still filter advanced searches based on region, see points on the map w/loc data, but the actual mini-map terrain/parchment map detail will not be available.

Why not? lol I know it might be demanding, but I love looking at the Google Map. I have 35 levels to go until I reach Dunland, and I don't want to spoil any of the game by going there before I get up to level, or near it. I do, however, allow myself to see the Google Map for that area.

Are you EVENTUALLY going to update Lorebook to have it in there? Do you mean that we will not see the google map by Tuesday, but we will later? Thank you in advance.

Originally Posted by Unhappy

Why not? lol I know it might be demanding, but I love looking at the Google Map. I have 35 levels to go until I reach Dunland, and I don't want to spoil any of the game by going there before I get up to level, or near it. I do, however, allow myself to see the Google Map for that area.

Are you EVENTUALLY going to update Lorebook to have it in there? Do you mean that we will not see the google map by Tuesday, but we will later? Thank you in advance.

The map still isn't up to date from In Their Absence (no NCF or STH appear on the map), so I'm guessing it may be quite a while. Heck, stoneheight still isn't on the in-game parchment map.

Originally Posted by Unhappy

Are you EVENTUALLY going to update Lorebook to have it in there? Do you mean that we will not see the google map by Tuesday, but we will later? Thank you in advance.

Short answer: We will not update the Google Maps by Tuesday but will do so Soon(tm).

Long answer: Generating the new map tiles takes effort and lots of it from a number of resources. The size and complexity of the map has made us stop and begin thinking about what we can do to streamline the process and/or are there other ways of us to present the map data differently but in a manner that is still useful.

Originally Posted by Duwis

Short answer: We will not update the Google Maps by Tuesday but will do so Soon(tm).

Long answer: Generating the new map tiles takes effort and lots of it from a number of resources. The size and complexity of the map has made us stop and begin thinking about what we can do to streamline the process and/or are there other ways of us to present the map data differently but in a manner that is still useful.

Thanks for replying, and for the answer.

I don't mind how long it takes, but, if we get it eventually (or soon[tm]) I'll be happy. (I would imagine others would be happy with that as well)

It looks like at least some quests from Isengard made it into the lorebook. Such as the epic line. Quite a few of the regular quests seem to be missing though.

There also still are many missing links in the "By Area" or "Quest Arc" category. Any ETA on those?

Originally Posted by Shismar

It looks like at least some quests from Isengard made it into the lorebook. Such as the epic line. Quite a few of the regular quests seem to be missing though.

Could you provide some samples and/or the complete list of quests you are not seeing in the 'book?

There also still are many missing links in the "By Area" or "Quest Arc" category. Any ETA on those?

Again, some samples/examples will help us sort things out.

It seems like there are still many items that are not shown in the lorebook. Doing a search for Level 70 and above incomparable jewelry results in mostly crafted items being shown. None of the 12-man Skirmish loot (http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...gard-Loot-List) nor the Draigoch drops (barring dropped recipe results) are anywhere to be found. I've heard rumors that the 12-man stuff is scalable, which is likely new tech and may be the culprit, but that doesn't explain loot from the raid not showing up. Maybe my Lorebook searching skills are lacking and everything is in it's right place, but I haven't been able to find a lot of this stuff yet. Any ideas?

Originally Posted by karnage320

It seems like there are still many items that are not shown in the lorebook. Doing a search for Level 70 and above incomparable jewelry results in mostly crafted items being shown. None of the 12-man Skirmish loot (http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...gard-Loot-List) nor the Draigoch drops (barring dropped recipe results) are anywhere to be found. I've heard rumors that the 12-man stuff is scalable, which is likely new tech and may be the culprit, but that doesn't explain loot from the raid not showing up. Maybe my Lorebook searching skills are lacking and everything is in it's right place, but I haven't been able to find a lot of this stuff yet. Any ideas?

I can confirm that plenty of teal items from skirmishes are missing.

Originally Posted by Fin.

I can confirm that plenty of teal items from skirmishes are missing.

All, please bug this via: http://forums.lotro.com/new_bug.php?...RO&nochar=true

This is how we need to report Lorebook issues from now on.

Cheers,
Harl

Duwis can you reply to this issue with skirmish items?

Originally Posted by Fin.

Duwis can you reply to this issue with skirmish items?

I'm sure Duwis is aware; however, officially, we need to use the web-based bug reporting tool at http://forums.lotro.com/new_bug.php?...RO&nochar=true to report any bugs like items missing from Lorebook.

Thanks,
Harl

Originally Posted by Harlinator

I'm sure Duwis is aware; however, officially, we need to use the web-based bug reporting tool at http://forums.lotro.com/new_bug.php?...RO&nochar=true to report any bugs like items missing from Lorebook.

Thanks,
Harl

I have used that long time ago, I just hope Turbine will officialy acknowledge this problem.

In the past happened that there was a known issue, but it was added to the list of known issues maybe 3-5 months after it was reported. I would prefer if this delay was not the case with this issue too.

I'm not seeing any of the new RoI quests at http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Quests Should I be looking some other place for them?

Edit: Never mind, I fixed it, added the individual quest categories to a Rise of Isengard Quests category that I put in the Quests category. I also added the Dunland area quests to a Dunland Quests that's in the Rise of Isengard Quests and the Quests category, so people can easily filter down on what they want to see.

http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/NPC:Gwilum only lists one of the quests that Gwilum is involved in. It mentions:
Quest: Guidance of the White Hand
but doesn't mention:
Quest: Summons of the White Hand (bestowed by Gwilum)
Quest: Servants of the White Hand (bestowed by Gwilum)
Quest: Hounds of the White Hand (bestowed by Gwilum)
Quest: Scarred Wood (turn in to Gwilum)
and possibly others.

I wouldn't worry about updates to the Google map. As cool as it is, it's been bugged since Mirkwood (try zooming in east of the Anduin). Also without a fullscreen option it's limited in its usefulness.

Originally Posted by Duwis

Short answer: We will not update the Google Maps by Tuesday but will do so Soon(tm).

Long answer: Generating the new map tiles takes effort and lots of it from a number of resources. The size and complexity of the map has made us stop and begin thinking about what we can do to streamline the process and/or are there other ways of us to present the map data differently but in a manner that is still useful.

Er Duwis the interactive map has still not been updated to show Dunland and north cotton farm. Has this been forgotten about or are you having problems updating it?

All right, I just noticed that Lorebook does not list ANY of Dunland quests, not if you try to searh using the quest search -tool. Even if you look at all the quests that Lorebook lists, there is now over 300 quests LESS than there was after RoI launch.

I really wonder what can mess up with Lorebook database this bad...