Thread: Snowbourn Server Performance

I didn't even attempt any instances yesterday because of the lag. I did manage getting myself killed going to assist a kinmate take out the dunlending patrols near Grimbold's camp. It was really weird because even though I had about 10 second lag, and my skills refused to go off I could move around. But then the mob would go running off to my old position and seemed to be "attacking" me there even thought I was "standing" several meters away by now.

In summary: it's pretty screwed up right now.

Disappointing to see this after the update. All signs point to a hardware issue.

I have a founders account (lifetime) with mains on Elendilmir, curious if it's just our server.

Raid nights have been pretty much ruined for a couple weeks now, there needs to be an official response already. Sapience? Celestrata?

Please, please, please fix the lag issue. Ever since the update there has been lag spikes which make Tier 1 ToO problematic and any attempt on Tier 2 frustrating beyond belief.

Agreed! Please do something about this. It's getting ridiculous.

Yeah, raiding on T2 is completely impossible with this lag atm.

I play this game to raid. Until they fix this we cannot do this. People are really fed up with this. Turbine buy a new server, whatever it takes! You'll save more money than loosing half of your subscribers.

And if you can fix the wardens healing and conviction legacy that would be jolly nice too

Raid wiper.

LOOK, i dont HAVE to keep my VIP, i got everything already unlocked with TP, but i dont see the point in supporting this game with my subscription if turbine cant be bothered making the server playable and enjoyable.

Under the circumstances, im not renewing my sub, and i find the lack of feedback regarding this major issue, and the lackluster handling to be the least unacceptable.

Puting the effort to grind my way up to high end 75 and doing T2 endgame content only to be wiped by server lag issues for all this long time is horrible.

It has taken any enjoyment out of raiding for me, when success is based mainly on luck, if the entire raid will lag at an unlucky point or not.


FIX THIS.

i am the leader of edges of insanity i am trying everyweekend to complete t2 mode all kinnies in group have worked hard to level there kit and to be better traited but since u6 all we seem to do is lag at the most important stages of the fight causing us to wip so pls from a leader of a great kin plspls get this sorted ty

Unfort. the last patch 6.0 and 6.0.1 have both made alot of instances and even normal world game play to become a lag feast.

This has to be top priority to be fixed!

Anything where time and reaction is necessary, raids t1 or t2, normal instances, fellowship manovers, or just wanting to build a gambit on the warden etc. are basically impossible or with alot of luck able to complete.

Problem is still happening. We had to give up on raids last night because of the lag spikes - and it happens to everyone in the raid so it's not our systems.

Is Turbine staff really not even going to comment on this or give us an update?
Just silence?

Great.

Server is still annoyingly laggy.

/signed.

I don't dare play my warden. Burg skills take too long as it is.

We Tried ToO as a kin for the first time lastnight, we always lacked a few members but managed to get enough last night, well excited about Easter weekend we cleared the trash quite easily, onto the first boss fight.

we went through the strategy, everybody was clear on what to do.

Pretty much everybody died when the acid came along because the lag was terrible, we tried 3 or 4 times but the server was so damn laggy, we had people stuck in mid air, when the game caught up we was all dead.

As a VIP Member I will not be renewing my subscription next week, it is the basics of online gaming that the ping/connection and server loads should be suitable.

I don't think Turbine would be much further behind EA as worst customer support from my experiences.

Why the hell you would move European servers to the USA is totally beyond me in the first instance..

Instead of adding new content, why not fix what still does not work correctly?

It is almost like Turbine want to lose the customers and no wonder so many people went down the star wars route.

wake up Turbine before its to damn late

Same happened to us. Entire raid of 12 all lagged out during acid phase, and all died seconds later. On my personal screen I was running with no issue, but everyone else was in mid air (same thing experienced by all 12 players). Next thing you know, all dead.

Almost a month now with these issues. That's unacceptable!

hmmm i wonder how long before this thread disappears?
My money is on it happening before the lag issues do likewise.
Poor v.poor

There is a big general thread about this, but looks like they are not even close to fixing...
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...the-lag/page33

Hi all, I know this must be a pain for you raiders, but it's also a pain for the players simply trying to level and do PvE quests.

Unfortunately for me, I am currently trying to level a warden and the frequent lag/rubber-banding makes it almost impossible in combat. It even made a stable-to-stable ride break, stranding me in the middle of no-where.

Also, as many others have said, it certainly isn't my PC or my ISP. I was having difficulties (again) yesterday so I switched to another MMO (without rebooting my pc) and it worked fine for the rest of the day. I am going to try LotRO again today, but if it performs as badly as yesterday I'm going to play SWTOR instead....and I won't need to buy any Turbine Points there, will I!

Last night we wiped twice in acid T1. Both times everything was fine, then the game simply froze for a couple of seconds and we were all dead. This is happening in many other zones and places, but is most noticeable in acid due to the acid mechanic. The strange thing is that there was a good latency and no packet loss at this time. We keep caling it lag but it is as is the server simply stutters for a couple of seconds. At the moment it happens every time we raid, but in most zones you can recover. Please Turbine, the ostrich impression is getting very annoying.

Originally Posted by Irth

There is a big general thread about this, but looks like they are not even close to fixing...
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...the-lag/page33

Thanks for posting I also recommend that anyone experience lag issues add to the official thread.

I coincidentally started this thread back in September, way before lag issues, as I noticed that every time there is a content update and a lot of players login to the server, we get serious lag issues. Back then it was especially noticeable in PvP.

Originally Posted by BeanCountingMan

Hi all, I know this must be a pain for you raiders, but it's also a pain for the players simply trying to level and do PvE quests.

Unfortunately for me, I am currently trying to level a warden and the frequent lag/rubber-banding makes it almost impossible in combat. It even made a stable-to-stable ride break, stranding me in the middle of no-where.

Also, as many others have said, it certainly isn't my PC or my ISP. I was having difficulties (again) yesterday so I switched to another MMO (without rebooting my pc) and it worked fine for the rest of the day. I am going to try LotRO again today, but if it performs as badly as yesterday I'm going to play SWTOR instead....and I won't need to buy any Turbine Points there, will I!

Ditto, it's annoying as heck even for non raiding. Since update 6 I've played on multiple PCs with multiple ISPs...and experienced this lag at all times.

In the main thread, Sapience is suggesting it may be client based. So now they give us clients full of bottom-end bugs too...

The lag issue has been found and will be fixed in update 6.1

I assume I'm not the only one who saw an improvement after 6.1 but now am back to having worse latency and packet loss with the stable master horses giving issues and random freezes again since the latest update? Pretty much where I was just after 6.1. (or was it 6?)

awfull lag still, was in ToO lastnight and unplayable, game freezing for 10 seconds at a time, everybody experienced it, i do not for 1 minute think it is any client problem, also the gate bugged on our T2 Lightning wing, we contacted a GM, all 12 of us waited nearly an hour before giving up, not even a reply from a GM, this is terrible, add to this GW2 and D3 coming out and turbine are going to lose a lot of gamers, it is almost like you really dont care anymore.

a hell of a lot of people are getting very very sick of this, please for the love of the game get it together turbine.

maybe the server is just too oveloaded? why not offer free transfers to a different server? or stop people joining it, i am no expert but to me maybe there are to many people on this server, i am sure a lot would transfer as they are so sick of the poor performance, just an idea.

Did a Draigoch run last night with awful lag spikes, worse I've ever seen it. Everybody was getting the spike at exactly the same time which indicates a server problem. At the same time we were all on Teamspeak and, while this is only an indication, didn't have any loss of voice at these times.

While we managed to complete the run in the end, several people died entirely because of the lag and it was a pretty horrible experience all round.

I'm not sure how many people experienced it last night but the whole server seem to stop around 8:30 - 9:00 pm GMT for about 10 secs... which caused us a lovely wipe in T2 F&F.... global activity suggested it affected more than just people in raids...

Random lag spikes throughout the evening also...

I have to say my personal opinion is the server is going down hill again and its getting progressively worse!

Lob

Aye we had the same lag spikes, lasting for a good 10 seconds if not longer, some of the kin members that was in ettens also reported that there client had also frozen up, generally the lag is "better" but when it does lag the spikes are for longer in duration.

Originally Posted by Lobla

I'm not sure how many people experienced it last night but the whole server seem to stop around 8:30 - 9:00 pm GMT for about 10 secs... which caused us a lovely wipe in T2 F&F.... global activity suggested it affected more than just people in raids...

Random lag spikes throughout the evening also...

I have to say my personal opinion is the server is going down hill again and its getting progressively worse!

Lob

It wiped us in Acid in 1 swoop, it was horrible lag :/

Nearly had a wipe as well - not in raid but in instance.

once again: THIS HAS TO BE FIXED!

Turbine, get off your sorry a** and do something. No it is not client side, No it is not Internet collapsing, it is your end - fix it.

Originally Posted by MessyR

It wiped us in Acid in 1 swoop, it was horrible lag :/

Yep, we had like 2-3 Acid wipes due to this as well. Kinnies not in raid reported lag spikes at exactly the same time (in completely different zones).

Amazing that this has gone on for so long....

Same here, last pull before boss T2 ToO lightning and server lag meant our tank couldn't do anything for a few seconds. I've noticed it alot recently. Usually pings are around 129ms, but they're spiking to around 400-600ms quite regularly with aroudn 2-3% packet loss. T2 is hard enough as it is, without having to deal with server related issues. I really can't understand why they can't run some European servers like many other MMOs do (I suspect profit plays a big part in it though!).

mates, this cannot continue like this. This game is almost unplayable atm, maybe only if are questing ... except that i cannot heal properly any high content raid/instance. And is not lag issues, is related about server's performance, i had no more than 160 ms latency and 0% loss, though the game was freezing for seconds. Tired to hear that the lag issues will be fixed in updates, what update shall be this? 10, 11? I reported the lag issues as bug last night as well as a lot of my party from ToO, sugest everyone to bombard them with tickets/bug reports. The server will die soon ...

I'm not to the point where I'm doing raids or PVP, so my point of view may not be very accurate, but I feel it is (mostly) a client-side problem, because I never had any problems with lag or whatsoever - constantly ping lower than 100, no packet lose, more than 100 fps and everything moving fluent. I presume that as long as it is a server side problem it should affect everyone.

I was in the same raid as Andracy. I have been encouraging Snowbourn people to make a fuss about this - file /bug reports, contact GMs, spam support.

Or let's just pack the servers up and ship them back to Codemasters.

Up the revolution!

Originally Posted by ScarfaceRo

I'm not to the point where I'm doing raids or PVP, so my point of view may not be very accurate

That. Normal questing is not really that laggy, even in higher areas. Was back when they released RoI, that's why most people called the new city Lagtrev instead of Galtrev.
Problem is that when you're in a raid at some point you can't move or use skills which for light and medium armour classes (except wardens) means instant death, for other 5 seconds and then death (speaking of ToO T2 here as most people complained).
Even in Great River area i experienced some lag on questing, but it was in spikes of a few seconds, not as bad as in a raid.
They should hopefully fix it in the next update (also the horse bug which is still not fixed).
One can only hope, but lowering the expectations leads to lower disappointment.

Edit: What Aed said. I was in the same raid with Aedfrith, Andracy and Cattiwen and the lag killed us all, with some help from the mobs.

I sometimes get this when soloing as well. Doesn't have as much of a negative effect, but it's still really annoying and makes the game experience far less enjoyable.

MONTHS of this and it's still not fixed??? Wow

So apparently this will be fixed (again) in the next couple of weeks with the up and coming release...

Not holding my breath!

Lob

Ha Ha Ha.

To Make a Hollow Laughing.

Was healing a couple of skraids yesterday (Dann and Way of Smiths) on my d0rfy minstrel of d0rfitude, with some kinnies and some pugs including a couple of guys from The Suffering. The lag was unbelievable.

Between that, the mess they've made of my main class, the minstrel induction bugs and the new level of grind, I'm going to give it one more week and then cancel my subscription.

Hey good news! Now if you run the grims out of the room in FF, they don't despawn anymore!

But the server is still worse than ever. .... Amazing that such a huge bug and detriment to the game has been allowed to go on for so long.

I play on withywindle but made a player on snowbourn. The population on snowbourn seems a 3 times larger than withy. Im quite sure as the others that the server cant handle the high poluation so good. The only thing there is to do is upgrade from turbines side. Or allow free transfers from snowbourn to withywindle :-)