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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Just came back to my mini and, wow, what a marvelous ressource. Thanks a lot.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Thank you very very much CW. I logged in one of my 65 Minsts, realized I had no idea how anything worked, and logged out, came here, found your post, *WHEW*
    Coming back the changes are overwhelming. I am just glad I have a 28 Minst I can go play for a while, although now that I think about it I could remove all my skills and get them back one by one by level as I got comfortable with them.

    Anyway, thank you again

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Excellent guide! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this extensive write-up! I'm still new to the game, so I was not familiar with the "old ways" of the Minstrel, but this is still right up my alley as the "go to" guide for helping me develop the best Minstrel I can.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Talk about thorough! Great job on this, even if it is a bit wordy in places. +rep.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    People always coming back deserve to find this quick!


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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    This Guide made me enjoy LOTRO more then I ever have....simple

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Awesome guide, thanks for the info. Almost to 75, so looking for ways to stay on top of things in max lvl raids.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    I don't think I've ever been so entranced in such a long and informative set of posts. Seriously. I stopped playing the game about an hour ago as I simply wanted to finish reading this so I could think of some stuff and then read it all again tomorrow (later today technically).

    Great... GREAT post! I just recently got back after being gone for about 9mos and to say I was a tad overwhelmed after logging in would be a lie - but this made it a ton easier to understand.

    +rep for you!

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    I had my minnie parked while my Runie romped...

    Turbine giveth & Turbine taketh away...

    My minstrel has been parked for well over two years, stuck at L42... erratic hours meant I was mostly solo...
    My minnie was parked at L42 when I first rolled rune-keeper, who romped...

    After RoI my Minstrel is now so much fun I'm suffering from... well, pardon, minstrel-cramps...
    Whereas my once near god-like rune-keeper now must convert fight or flight to die or flight under certain conditions...

    It's all cool, a tide may pick up one class while nearly sinking another. Both classes are still a lot of fun, I just now take the "due diligence" I used to expend keeping my minnie alive on my runie.

    Minnie is now the bully of the schoolyard

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    One thing I have to take issue with - and it does not only apply to minstrels - is the stingy amount of percentage for various effects to hit. For example, the Minstrel class Life Singer trait which gives +10% Chance to Score Critical Heals. A 1 out of 10 chance? Give me a break! What people in every class want is an effect they can RELY ON. 1 out of 10 is so random as to be laughable. There are worse examples, like 5% (1 out of 20) and 1% (ludicrous). Again, STINGY comes to mind. If Turbine would radically change its mindset about such things and give folks RELIABLE effects it would be a great improvement, even if the effect's magnitude were to be diminished. Reliability is key over magnitude of the effect.

    *gets off soapbox*

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Great thread and bump for front page

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Anthems also modify your Coda, giving unique buffs to the the Casting Minstrel based on which Anthem buffs are active at the time Coda is cast.
    So strange, but it seems that after the last change to anthems they modify the coda even after their expiration. You can cast anthems, wait for their expiration, then cast the coda and receive all possible effects. I hope it's WAI.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Great thread and bump for front page

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Bump time again.
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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Wonder if we could get this stickied?
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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    should be stickied.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Quote Originally Posted by Daredent View Post
    should be stickied.
    The powers that be no longer sticky user created content...I think they try to push that towards the wiki that I don't ever use or think about.


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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    I guess we'll just have to keep "ghetto-sticking" it for the foreseeable future then.

    The official wiki isn't worth the code it's written in.
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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Quote Originally Posted by Binidj View Post
    I guess we'll just have to keep "ghetto-sticking" it for the foreseeable future then.

    The official wiki isn't worth the code it's written in.
    I'm so glad I found this. Much more helpful than the official wiki. Thanks!

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    This needs to stay on page 1.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Quote Originally Posted by Binidj View Post
    I guess we'll just have to keep "ghetto-sticking" it for the foreseeable future then.

    The official wiki isn't worth the code it's written in.
    "Ghetto-sticking" Thanks for the lol!

    And doing it myself...
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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    "The way Cinder is traited, her buffs all have a 30 second duration on a 5 second cooldown."

    Can someone please explain to me how this is possible?

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    1. Trait Glorious Anthem = +5 duration
    2. Trait Smooth Voice = -5 cooldown
    3. 3 yellow traits = -5 cooldown
    4. 4 yellow traits = +5 duration, -5 cooldown
    5. weapon legacy = +10 duration
    6. 5-piece bonus for Dirge-Singer or Glírberion = +5 duration

    I'm running my minstrel at 5 sec cooldown, 35 sec duration.

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Quote Originally Posted by ketteringdave View Post
    1. Trait Glorious Anthem = +5 duration
    2. Trait Smooth Voice = -5 cooldown
    3. 3 yellow traits = -5 cooldown
    4. 4 yellow traits = +5 duration, -5 cooldown
    5. weapon legacy = +10 duration
    6. 5-piece bonus for Dirge-Singer or Glírberion = +5 duration

    I'm running my minstrel at 5 sec cooldown, 35 sec duration.
    Many thanks, Ketteringdave

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    /bump time

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    You shall not pass, to page 2 *bump*

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    Re: Visual Guide To Minstrels in Rise of Isengard

    Wow, awesome guide. I just recently came back to the game after being away since Mirkwood, this guide really helped me understand the changes to my minstrel. Nice work! +rep
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    What Armor/Cosmetic?

    Going to sound a little random, but anyone know what cosmetics/armor the minstrel is wearing in this photo (from post #3)?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanderer3791 View Post
    Going to sound a little random, but anyone know what cosmetics/armor the minstrel is wearing in this photo (from post #3)?

    Thanks.
    The chestpiece, gloves, and boots are from the Burglar Ost Dunhoth set (can be purchased using Medallions of the North-Men at Harndirion in Enedwaith). The legs and shoulders are quest rewards (light armor) from Dunland, and appear under multiple different names throughout the zone.
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    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudie-wan View Post
    The chestpiece, gloves, and boots are from the Burglar Ost Dunhoth set (can be purchased using Medallions of the North-Men at Harndirion in Enedwaith). The legs and shoulders are quest rewards (light armor) from Dunland, and appear under multiple different names throughout the zone.

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    May help with all the queries by newer minstrels
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    For someone that had 100% control over Minstrel before he left, came back and realized so much had changed... this guide was really nice!


    Oh, 1 thing about our new instruments.. +0.24 Crit Mod Healing - Does this mean critical multiplier of 24% on heals?
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    Thumbs up

    I came back to Lotro after a year of retirement, and had really no idea what to do.
    With this guide in my head and some practise I will be fine again. Thanks a lot

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    Amazing guide.

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    worth remembering it's still here!

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    This is has been a great help for myself. I sign this to be a sticky.
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    Thank You!

    This is a wonderful resource for long dormant Minis. I still suspect I'll have questions for any new abilities/modifications in the newest expansion, but at least this gets me on the right track. Kudos!

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    Just started playing my mini and this is a great guide for guys like me that been here for over 5 yrs and want to go back and play the early stuff and have fun. I really learned alot today from this guide. Thank man =)

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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santoron View Post
    This is a wonderful resource for long dormant Minis. I still suspect I'll have questions for any new abilities/modifications in the newest expansion, but at least this gets me on the right track. Kudos!
    I agree completely. I've been playing my RK almost exclusively for the past 6-ish months (wow, time flies), and this guide very quickly got me caught back up with my Minstrel, for whom I'd already forgotten some key points.

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