Thread: New Dwarrowdelf Raid/Instance Progression

how don't we settle this the correct way, if they truly beat it the legit way like they keep yapping in the glff or to people, why don't they fraps or video tape the entire fight of them beating it, i mean if they can do it once, they can sure do it twice.

It's not that I, and I guess that goes for the others as well, want to bash BR. To put it in perspective if BR did kill Saruman by doing the complete fight and had a valid proof of it than this would be not only a server first but a world first. And if a kinship claims to have done that without any other tier II kills and with a known way to shortcut out there it is only natural to ask how. I would do the same thing if Ainur or Shadow would have claimed it and I am certain others would have done it if Reforged had claimed it, and they would have all the rights to do so.

Killing Saruman with the shortcut is still noteworthy thing, you still have to defeat the first two phases and survive the third I am all for keeping track of it, the list just need to reflect the way he died.

Originally Posted by Santa_Claw

It's not that I, and I guess that goes for the others as well, want to bash BR. To put it in perspective if BR did kill Saruman by doing the complete fight and had a valid proof of it than this would be not only a server first but a world first. And if a kinship claims to have done that without any other tier II kills and with a known way to shortcut out there it is only natural to ask how. I would do the same thing if Ainur or Shadow would have claimed it and I am certain others would have done it if Reforged had claimed it, and they would have all the rights to do so.

Killing Saruman with the shortcut is still noteworthy thing, you still have to defeat the first two phases and survive the third I am all for keeping track of it, the list just need to reflect the way he died.

I know, I'm just saying I heard people were laughing at BR cause they used the phase 3 trick(on forums) and Dulli and Tarsnowborn got the deed done cause they didn't died, if you die on Acid Wing t2, no deed for you. And if you wanna laugh at BR, do better than us.

People are probably getting the wrong impression from my post. I just simply stated what they did. Who cares either way? Kins on other servers have been farming 1st ages for a while now. Come Tuesday I expect the patch they have will be for this exploit seeing as how they aren't telling us what the patch is so kins won't rush to try and farm loot from this.

Originally Posted by Viduo

People are probably getting the wrong impression from my post. I just simply stated what they did. Who cares either way? Kins on other servers have been farming 1st ages for a while now. Come Tuesday I expect the patch they have will be for this exploit seeing as how they aren't telling us what the patch is so kins won't rush to try and farm loot from this.

Vid, I didn't get the wrong impression from your post, you are right that's an exploit and you just said that. But a Ainur member(not gonna say who) came to me saying: ROFL, your noobs, you exploited, now the whole server is laughing at you lolololol. Then I'm just saying here it's not cool and if you wanna lol at us like that guy, try to do better than the guys who have beaten that. Btw, congratz to Nimdol for the 1st FA 75 on the server.

There's posts on other server forums of people with their 75 FAs.

Anyway, I thought there wasn't supposed to be any kin bashing in this thread? Why can't we all just get along? :[

Originally Posted by Nibengotbanned

Vid, I didn't get the wrong impression from your post, you are right that's an exploit and you just said that. But a Ainur member(not gonna say who) came to me saying: ROFL, your noobs, you exploited, now the whole server is laughing at you lolololol. Then I'm just saying here it's not cool and if you wanna lol at us like that guy, try to do better than the guys who have beaten that. Btw, congratz to Nimdol for the 1st FA 75 on the server.

I apologize on my kins behalf then :/ Honestly, maybe this was Turbine's way of discreetly saying "sorry we did a horrible job with all ROI content, have a glitch that actually helps you now" Haha, jk.

Looks like you guys have some...



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Ainur completed Tower of Orthanc Lightning Wing Tier 2 with Challenge.

Helegrod and The Rift run for Massive Dynamics (Yes i know were a bit behind Just started Kin raidings)

Draigoch Tier 2 (Kin Pug) (Patriotpea's Dynamic Pug)

I support following the same conventions as the past two cross-server progression threads(Tower of Orthanc, Ost Dunhoth(link is to later post since OP lost it at one point)). That is to differentiate between T1/T2/T2C/6-man but not to track server first's specifically since it's a fairly arbitrary distinction(as kins aren't really sharing info, when you clear it seems to be a function of when you started, competence permitting of course).

While I'm happy for those who got 75 FAs as well, the convention for this raid is to not track exploited Saruman kills(note no kins on any server are listed under Saruman), so I'd remove that for now pending a five phase clear. I have nothing against BR and wish them continued success in their raiding endeavors, but exploit kills are not a sign of progression since progression entails completion of the fight as was intended. I think the fact all the other wings were skipped to clear the hardest fight in the game instead is evidence enough of how it was achieved.

I would however support a distinction between on-level and legacy clears since we seem to be tracking raids older than the current primary raid. Clearing OD at 65 for example is monumentally different than clearing it at 75.

The Crimson Brotherhood raid group completed every wing of Orthanc T1 except the old man himself this weekend. It was not all kin, and I sadly cannot remember all of the names at this time, but they know who they are, and they know we appreciated the help.
Also, I agree with Jacbo on most of his points. This thread needs to either be free of expoited wins or have them in a separate category, and on-level raids should be documented as such. While the mechanics can still easily wipe groups in many cases, the combat itself is trivial, greatly reducing the difficulty.
I would also like to suggest that Orthanc T1 acid wing clears be separated by those that happened before the 5.1 patch and those that happened after. The boss fight is now significantly harder than it was before the patch. (still not really that hard, but a lot less room for error or lag, since the rising acid is now WaI)
And last but not least, you misspelled our kin's name in the draigoch and ToO lists...it is Crimson, not Crimsom

Congratz to all the kins that are mentioned in this thread
you all have done well in my opinion

I wish one day I can get my kin more active and get some raids going but... I am currently to lazy to recruit xD even though I Only Rambo is a sort of lulzy kin name with which i doubt people would join because of it, oh well though

Originally Posted by jaridweese

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I would also like to suggest that Orthanc T1 acid wing clears be separated by those that happened before the 5.1 patch and those that happened after.

I don't think this is necessary, since even with the changes the fight is so pathetically easy that everyone who got it can easily repeat it if they get the same group (most probably have already). Also with or without changes the fight is also a lot easier than the trash, which did not change, so everyone who can get through Acid trash will have no problem with the boss.

Originally Posted by Pickletongue

-Balrog Riders - Full Clear (Server's first)

Why is this called out above all the other raid stuff? Should just be like other raids and noted as cleared. Or else please annotate all other raids with who did it first.

Originally Posted by Jacbo

While I'm happy for those who got 75 FAs as well, the convention for this raid is to not track exploited Saruman kills(note no kins on any server are listed under Saruman), so I'd remove that for now pending a five phase clear.

I would however support a distinction between on-level and legacy clears since we seem to be tracking raids older than the current primary raid. Clearing OD at 65 for example is monumentally different than clearing it at 75.

And Banoon, I think you need to start providing a list of every player that participated; those that dropped half way through and those that completed it to the end.

You also need to provide a time and date of the raid; especially the time finished.

I think it also prudent to include what armour each was wearing and what sort of weapons: i.e. Type of weapon, what the crafter had named the weapon and also whether they were first, second, or third ages.

If players were wearing cosmetics you should also add in what they were wearing.

There is also a thread somewhere in the forums about what food people like to eat while they're playing. Do some investigating son and if you can locate what they like, include that as well please.

Mother's maiden names would be great.


ALTERNATIVELY

Just keep on doing what you're doing mate - Kin/PUG completes a raid, grats, whack their name here and move along.

Good on ya Banoon! great job with this thread,

Those that want to start changing things up and pretending to have some authority around here, pull ya heads in and start up your own thread or hop in your WHAAAAAMBULANCE and head back to your galaxy far far away

Zub

Those that want to start changing things up and pretending to have some authority around here, pull ya heads in and start up your own thread or hop in your WHAAAAAMBULANCE and head back to your galaxy far far away.

You're allowed to have an opinion zub, but this clearly goes beyond opinion into personal attack. Enough is enough, no more derailing the thread with e-peen this and e-peen that. If people want to throw out suggestions/opinions that's fine.

First of all, congratulations to all the kins that have beat raids recently.

To Marvi and The Crimson Brotherhood I apologize for the spelling mistake.

Also i have notice that this thread has made more people unhappy... this is not the main reason I created this thread... I apologize to everyone that is unhappy with this thread.

If my apologies is not enough those unhappy individual please open a new thread of your own by just clicking this respective link
http://forums.lotro.com/newthread.ph...ewthread&f=516


kthxbai

Banoon you owe noone an apoligie . If anything they owe you one for turning your thread that suppose to be about the WORLD OF DWARRODWELF into self Epeens And who is better then who. < I have the biggest ego on dwarro but in no sort of way would I ever QQ at someone who is running a thread Yes we can debate on it im not saying not to. What im saying is have some respect and self gratitude anyway's Guido out dueces

Agreed. You are doing great with this thread, and you should not feel the need to apologize for anything. Just keep up the good work.

Originally Posted by YOUNGGUIDO

< I have the biggest ego on dwarro

Why did you come back, I was making a stab at that title

Originally Posted by Viduo

If people want to throw out suggestions/opinions that's fine.

Well seeing as though this thread was started in September 2011,,,,,yeah about 5 months ago,, I think the ship has sailed on people now starting to throw out suggestions on how to change it to make their kin look better. As said by me and a bunch of others, Banoon has been doing a fine job on keeping track and keeping this updated.

But honestly Vid, I don't want to start a blue with another of the Ainurses,,,Hell! Banoon is in your kin, i'm surprised Jac or Zid needed to bring it to the forums seeing as though they could of mentioned/demanded it to Banoon in vent. You tell me who wants to start up the QQ or show how massively ginourmous their e-peen is.

No doubt when Jac gets himself a new thesaurus (surely wore out the last one by now) he'll throw in a 5000 word essay in response to this (if not already on his 16th draft) that we'll all stop reading after about the first 3 lines.

Trolololol,


Zub

How about we just delete this thread all together since people can't act like grown-ups. In fact, lets just get rid of the forums. Orrrrrrrr we could act with some civility like many others have managed to do.

Originally Posted by Viduo

How about we just delete this thread all together since people can't act like grown-ups. In fact, lets just get rid of the forums. Orrrrrrrr we could act with some civility like many others have managed to do.

I agree Vid. If people spent as much time learning their classes, grinding deeds/virtues, and obtaining proper gear as they did using micrometers to measure their e-peens (It's okay if you don't know what that is everyone. I realize some of you lack the intelligence to complete high school. Or, at least you demonstrate you do by how you play a very simple MMO), then Dwarrowdelf might actually be a semi-respectable server. Get back to the game, stop complaining and let Banoon run his forum how he wants.

PS: If an unnamed person personally attacks Jacbo again, I swear to Gandalf I will use every ounce of my Warden powers (while I realize is not much) to make your in-game experience a living Mordor.

Originally Posted by Viduo

How about we just delete this thread

I couldn't find the delete or close thread button.... i would've closed it long ago if i can....

Originally Posted by ZiggyWiggy

But honestly Vid, I don't want to start a blue with another of the Ainurses,,,Hell! Banoon is in your kin, i'm surprised Jac or Zid needed to bring it to the forums seeing as though they could of mentioned/demanded it to Banoon in vent. You tell me who wants to start up the QQ or show how massively ginourmous their e-peen is.

Because Jac and Zid aren't so arrogant as to try and shanghai this thread from Banoon just because he's in our kin. The only things they posted were suggestions, and the only QQ I see is from you. If you have something constructive to post or report on, do it; otherwise, leave Banoon to his thread. He's been doing a great job.

Don't let a couple of trolls dishearten you, Banoon. I realize that I do not know what goes on in Viduo's head, that part of his post seemed like sarcasm, taken in context with the last part.

The point behind threads like these is to give a gauge if the progress made by the various kins (and groups) on the server toward successful completion of the end-game raids. I think that it needs to be more than an e-peen thread, and agree wholeheartedly that things like server firsts aren't important. That can be done by whichever raid group has the largest number of members without a life. The important part of a thread like this, for me at least, is that it gives the recognition due to those who have completed what is by far the hardest content in the game, and maybe to those who have slightly less free time, or a kin that is not as raid-ready as needed for the truly epic stuff, when they complete the easier version of the raids.

As to the server first issue, first off: WHO CARES!

Second: the argument seems to be between Ainur and Balrog Riders about the Saruman T1 fight in ToO, both of whom have very skilled raid groups, and based on earlier posts in this thread, were very close together up to the fight with Saruman. Both would most likely have beaten it at very close to the same time, certainly the same day. Considering that BR annouced the victory the next weekend, I have no doubt that the Ainur group would have done the same, if not for the bugs reported in the RK forums, twice (2 days apart) at the following links:

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...ing-on-Saruman (posted 2 days after BR's announcement, by Viduo)

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...463-Frozen-RKs

I have experienced this bug 6 times now (most recently in the lightning wing of ToO T1, but also in other random places, if asked, I will happily explain more, but not here), I know exactly how annoying that bug can be, though could not imagine how bad it would be during that fight. I can't know for sure, but I would imagine this would be a serious, uncontrollable set-back. So serious, in fact that they were forced to actually recruit at least one mini that I know of, and likely got more, because there doesn't seem to be any way around the lack of care (if not outright hate) that the devs seem to have for healing RKs right now, since that bug affects one of our key skills, and it still has not been fixed afaik (unlike the mini coda bug, which they thought deserved more attention for reasons that completely escape me).

Third: Server firsts are, as I said earlier, gauges of nothing more than which kin has the largest number of unemployed members who have no real life. Just because my kin/raid-group is behind a bit on progression through the raid compared to others, there was still a great sense of accomplishment felt by everyone involved in our first (and successful) run at the shadow boss, and we will likely feel the same pride when we finally bring down the old man.

And, as a last point, to add a further perspective, I would like to point out that both Ainur and BR were and still are currently behind many other groups on the raid at T2, and were very likely behind on T1 as well.

Please, continue maintaining this thread, however you want it to be run. If you see a suggestion that you think would be a good thing, use it. If you do not like a suggestion that is put forth, don't use it, though some explanation as to why you disagree might be fair, so as to allow for an open discussion about it. Most importantly, YOU started this thread, there is no reason to let a few elitist trolls discourage you (I am referring to the trollish posts made by both sides of this argument, not so much the ones that were actually useful for the purposes of this thread).

Let's keep this a friendly, congratulatory thread, and not a flame war, and especially let's not emotionally torture someone who was just trying to help people get the recognition they deserve, and who is (from what I've seen at least) not only a good lore-master, but also, at worst, a decent person (even if those emote spam sessions in Galtrev can get annoying).

Barry Bonds has a * next to his name in all the record books, not because he wasn't a good player or because it takes no skill to hit 73 home runs in a season and 10x that amount in a career, but because according to the rules of baseball, he cheated. It's not fair to compare his achievements to those of the players before and after him who were clean.

According to the rules of Turbine, exploits = cheating. This isn't a matter of one kin vs. another, or e-peen, or server firsts, it's primarily an issue of journalistic integrity, and as such, BR's Saruman T2 should be noted with an *. Not to take anything away from their skill or accomplishments, but to provide fair and honest data to anyone who might be reading.

Originally Posted by LOTROOO

Barry Bonds has a * next to his name in all the record books, not because he wasn't a good player or because it takes no skill to hit 73 home runs in a season and 10x that amount in a career, but because according to the rules of baseball, he cheated. It's not fair to compare his achievements to those of the players before and after him who were clean.

According to the rules of Turbine, exploits = cheating. This isn't a matter of one kin vs. another, or e-peen, or server firsts, it's primarily an issue of journalistic integrity, and as such, BR's Saruman T2 should be noted with an *. Not to take anything away from their skill or accomplishments, but to provide fair and honest data to anyone who might be reading.

are you some r0 creep from riddermark trying to troll a ...... oh wait nvm
;p

"Let's keep this a friendly, congratulatory thread, and not a flame war, and especially let's not emotionally torture someone who was just trying to help people get the recognition they deserve, and who is (from what I've seen at least) not only a good lore-master, but also, at worst, a decent person (even if those emote spam sessions in Galtrev can get annoying)." -Marvi


^^
This. It's a SERVER progression thread. We should WANT as many kins as possible clearing this stuff, thereby putting our tiny little Dwarrowdelf on the map. When players from other servers are looking at Dwarrow they aren't looking for server 1st's. Go check out the game wide progression thread and see how many other kins have cleared EVERYTHING but Saruman T2.

So in conclusion, my hat is off to any and all you guys/girls that are out clearing content and also......meow.


Edit- For those who aren't sure where to look, this is the all inclusive Progression Thread.
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...ression-Thread

hehe, I love end game kins. Whole bunch of Highschoolers bickering over useless sheninagans, it sure adds extra entertainment to the game

Originally Posted by bobbyorr123

hehe, I love end game kins. Whole bunch of Highschoolers bickering over useless sheninagans, it sure adds extra entertainment to the game

Agreed :]
I used to care about #### like this but then I got a life. This sure does make for something entertaining to read when I'm bored at work though!


Grats to everyone who accomplished everything that they have. Perhaps it is time to close this thread. There is a never-ending fight between people who can't seem to grow up and as many times as people ask them to back off, they do not. Every other post in this thread (and on the forums in general) is either a personal or general attack on the server. It's a shame that we can't all work together. Good luck to everyone who continues to work on playing the game and happy hunting <3

Can we just get back to posting who cleared what now? Take the argument to another thread.

Agreed, it is time to get over the pointless fighting, and return to the original purpose of this thread.
On that note, Crimson Brotherhood has hosted a number of pugs that have beaten all three wings of helegrod at level 50, and we have beaten drake wing at 75, and both times being about 50% non-kin. I'm not really sure if either of those are worth mentioning here, though we did beat the challenge in our first level 75 drake wing.

What I honestly can't comprehend is why people are bickering over who did what and when...
this thread is about the progression of raids on the dwarrowdelf server and Banoon is doing great job at keeping track of them, if he reads a suggestion and he thinks would make this thread more funtional then he can add it in.

Furthermore stop this nonsense of bickering and whining and get back to whats important FINISHING RAIDS and let Banoon record your success

I think it's great what Banoon is doing and I think he should keep this thread open, if people can't give Banoon the respect he deserves for trying his hardest to get our little Dwarrowdelf out then grow up... the majority of us are older then 17 so act like it and leave Banoon alone to do what he wishes

Originally Posted by ZiggyWiggy

[...]

Those that want to start changing things up and pretending to have some authority around here, pull ya heads in and start up your own thread or hop in your WHAAAAAMBULANCE and head back to your galaxy far far away

Zub

Originally Posted by ZiggyWiggy

Banoon is in your kin, i'm surprised Jac or Zid needed to bring it to the forums seeing as though they could of mentioned/demanded it to Banoon in vent. You tell me who wants to start up the QQ or show how massively ginourmous their e-peen is.

I refer you to the following quote from the OP:

Originally Posted by abukia222

**any suggestions are most welcome to make this thread better
kthxbai

I made two suggestions that I feel would improve the usability of this thread so that it's not just a list for listing sake. I don't know how you run your kin, but I rarely if ever make silly demands of our members. Oh, and my response is shorter than yours. Troll someone else Zub. =)

Originally Posted by LOTROOO

According to the rules of Turbine, exploits = cheating. This isn't a matter of one kin vs. another, or e-peen, or server firsts, it's primarily an issue of journalistic integrity, and as such, BR's Saruman T2 should be noted with an *. Not to take anything away from their skill or accomplishments, but to provide fair and honest data to anyone who might be reading.

^ This. If it were Ainur I'd have said the same thing. I refused to use the Draigoch tanking exploit, I took a hard line stance on the Burglar PvP exploit, and I had no intention of using this Saruman exploit. Exploits are not clears, never have been, never will be. That goes for anyone.

Originally Posted by bobbyorr123

hehe, I love end game kins. Whole bunch of Highschoolers bickering over useless sheninagans, it sure adds extra entertainment to the game

And I love it when sweeping generalizations are made to justify a poorly informed opinion, guess we all get our kicks from the forums.

Hidey Ho!

I'm sorry to once again post on this thread but I must respond to my fans lmao.

This isn't intended to start up a whole bunch more QQ, just a response to the comments and 'threats' directed at me. This aint directed at all the Ainurses,,just the few that are so touchy and think it's all about them,, Bwahahahahahaha.

Originally Posted by Warth

Because Jac and Zid aren't so arrogant as to try and shanghai this thread from Banoon just because he's in our kin. leave Banoon to his thread. He's been doing a great job.

Borken,,whoever you may be? Probly one of those reforged ainurses?,,,, Go back and read that first sentence. Makes no sense. 'Because he's in our kin' on the end of that sentence has left me scratching my head lol,,guess English wasn't your best subject at school? Maybe you'll do better when you get to high school? Maybe. I mention this because you obviously never understood my initial post. The overall purpose of your post other than calling me arrogant (good adjective) just reiterated what I was saying in the first place, Banoon is doing a great job and should be left to do his great job. It's a good job that we don't have to grind 'comprehension' as a virtue trait,,you'd be grinding a long time i expect. Hope you understood this. Maybe ask Jacbo to lend you his dictionary and thesaurus?

And I think even Zid would be surprised to see his name in a sentence that also has "AREN'T ARROGANT" Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by tstahlness

If an unnamed person personally attacks Jacbo again, I swear to Gandalf I will use every ounce of my Warden powers (while I realize is not much) to make your in-game experience a living Mordor.

I'm assuming that the unnamed person is someone I know Moonfang Bwahahahahahaha...Anyways, I just mentioned his Thesaurus and Dictionary again so I guess now you MUST live up to your threat.

I was interested in how you would expect to do that??? What ya gonna do? play knock and run on the kin house door? Tell all the girls I got cooties? Ummmm,,poison my Lynx' steak? Drain my horses' and goats' water bowls? Tell peeps to never rez me? Paint my house's door in blood with comments like "I'm already in the house Mwoohahahaha" ,,,,lmao @ you...best threat ever,,,"swear to Gandalf" Bwahahahahahaha seriously,,you chuck in a comment like that after talking about people not having the intelligence to complete High School Bwahahahahaha You're that dude that's been playing this game since inception right? Someone needs to break it to you,,,Gandalf aint real,,neither is the life you live inside the game,,Bwahahahahaha.

So i'm pre-empting that you're gonna say something like "Just wait and see how I make your life a living Mordor Zub" Well I say to you,,,"Bring it on!!!!!" Can't wait.

Incidentally, if you do have a map to Mordor, i'd pay you a nice bit of gold for it and go willingly.

Originally Posted by Jacbo

Oh, and my response is shorter than yours. Troll someone else Zub. =)

Like I gave you a choice,,,first for everything I s'pose,,,must say you dissapointed me Jacbo,,but only me I think. You should see the mail and tells i'm getting from people thanking me for finding a way to make Jacbo's posts shorter and more easily understood. Bwahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Jacbo

I don't know how you run your kin, but I rarely if ever make silly demands of our members.

I don't run a kin anymore,,,Chose life No offence Tanar but you know the score Any offence taken by you Jacbo was intended Bwahahahahahahahaha

So anyways,,,although you guys won't be able to help yourselves but respond to this to defend your honour I won't be partaking in it anymore. Said what I had to say,,,goin' fishing

Laters Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Zub

PS. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too funny

Originally Posted by ZiggyWiggy

Hidey Ho!

I'm sorry to once again post on this thread but I must respond to my fans lmao.

This isn't intended to start up a whole bunch more QQ, just a response to the comments and 'threats' directed at me. This aint directed at all the Ainurses,,just the few that are so touchy and think it's all about them,, Bwahahahahahaha.



Borken,,whoever you may be? Probly one of those reforged ainurses?,,,, Go back and read that first sentence. Makes no sense. 'Because he's in our kin' on the end of that sentence has left me scratching my head lol,,guess English wasn't your best subject at school? Maybe you'll do better when you get to high school? Maybe. I mention this because you obviously never understood my initial post. The overall purpose of your post other than calling me arrogant (good adjective) just reiterated what I was saying in the first place, Banoon is doing a great job and should be left to do his great job. It's a good job that we don't have to grind 'comprehension' as a virtue trait,,you'd be grinding a long time i expect. Hope you understood this. Maybe ask Jacbo to lend you his dictionary and thesaurus?

And I think even Zid would be surprised to see his name in a sentence that also has "AREN'T ARROGANT" Bwahahahahahahahahaha




I'm assuming that the unnamed person is someone I know Moonfang Bwahahahahahaha...Anyways, I just mentioned his Thesaurus and Dictionary again so I guess now you MUST live up to your threat.

I was interested in how you would expect to do that??? What ya gonna do? play knock and run on the kin house door? Tell all the girls I got cooties? Ummmm,,poison my Lynx' steak? Drain my horses' and goats' water bowls? Tell peeps to never rez me? Paint my house's door in blood with comments like "I'm already in the house Mwoohahahaha" ,,,,lmao @ you...best threat ever,,,"swear to Gandalf" Bwahahahahahaha seriously,,you chuck in a comment like that after talking about people not having the intelligence to complete High School Bwahahahahaha You're that dude that's been playing this game since inception right? Someone needs to break it to you,,,Gandalf aint real,,neither is the life you live inside the game,,Bwahahahahaha.

So i'm pre-empting that you're gonna say something like "Just wait and see how I make your life a living Mordor Zub" Well I say to you,,,"Bring it on!!!!!" Can't wait.

Incidentally, if you do have a map to Mordor, i'd pay you a nice bit of gold for it and go willingly.



Like I gave you a choice,,,first for everything I s'pose,,,must say you dissapointed me Jacbo,,but only me I think. You should see the mail and tells i'm getting from people thanking me for finding a way to make Jacbo's posts shorter and more easily understood. Bwahahahahahaha



I don't run a kin anymore,,,Chose life No offence Tanar but you know the score Any offence taken by you Jacbo was intended Bwahahahahahahahaha

So anyways,,,although you guys won't be able to help yourselves but respond to this to defend your honour I won't be partaking in it anymore. Said what I had to say,,,goin' fishing

Laters Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Zub

PS. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too funny

No offence but if you are trying to troll you are doing a horrible job at it...

also refer to what I had said above Jacbo's comment
"if people can't give Banoon the respect he deserves for trying his hardest to get our little Dwarrowdelf out then grow up... the majority of us are older then 17 so act like it"
this quote of myself generally should mean for everyone and not just Banoon
if you don't respect others people wont respect you, Jacbo is defending his position on this thread and you are claiming its QQ... since when was making an opinion and thus defending it QQ?

Again, nobody wanna talk about why I keep getting banned? I think it's more interesting, kisses lol

Originally Posted by jaridweese

Agreed, it is time to get over the pointless fighting, and return to the original purpose of this thread.
On that note, Crimson Brotherhood has hosted a number of pugs that have beaten all three wings of helegrod at level 50, and we have beaten drake wing at 75, and both times being about 50% non-kin. I'm not really sure if either of those are worth mentioning here, though we did beat the challenge in our first level 75 drake wing.

gratz ;p


fsudhfuidhsgr <-- this text is to make sure that it is more than 10 word

Gandalf isn't real?! Well I guess since I have done nothing but play LotRO for the past 5 years, 24/7/365, I should thank you for helping me see the light. I guess I should model you and have an awful sense of humor since you apparently can't take a joke, just like the rest of the server. Also, learn to complete sentences with proper punctuation: For someone attempting to belittle my intelligence with a sentence ending in triple commas is calling the kettle black, no?

On-topic though: Moonfang's "solo raid" completed DN just while I typed this. I don't have screen shots or anything else to prove this, but you'll just have to take my word for it.