Who cares what he is or how he is. He's a champ that I deem killable in shadow, end of story. I don't see how anyone can argue that, I am the only person who's me.
True Stoffi, but like others have pointed out, he has Rank 1 Audacity.
If you was to spar him with 7 he'd last very much longer.
EDIT: 1000th Post woo !
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Gilrain - Draigoch First 13/10/2011
Celestrata - Surprise, it's not a glitch!
I had a one on one with Corlindel once, and I can honestly say it was my proudest solo kill while I PvMP'd since he was (imo) the best champ, I thought Nargai was also on a similar level. Most other champs while I was playing BA were quite easy to take down in a one on one situation. I probably would have lost more times than not against either of these two though!
Also respect to him because (just to give some backstory to the screenie!) I remember earlier on that evening I was just questing in HH, he saw me while I was fighting mobs and just left me, could have had an easy kill but didn't
Then later on I came across him again, we looked at each other for a bit; I said in /tr that I was going to leave him since I didn't think I would be able to kill him. He had other ideas though, so I committed to a fight as well and just managed to come out on top after using most of my CDs
Hey I remember that. I started too much confident and the 1v1 was going fine ..but, like a newbie, I forgot your Uruk Heal.
Nice to see you here
Corlindel Morenoldo the Battlemaster - Champ R12
Kah Headhunter Harvester of Sorrow - Reaver R9
Nah Narauko LM - Vasko Warden - Mizi Star Burg - Mah Guardian - Heidiklum WL
Exiles of Numenor / Scumbags - GILRAIN EU
Corlindel? Let me think. The champ that used glory traits after RoI and pretended it's too easy and left lotro? Riiight another good joke,i think i will have to spread some rep today.
Errr. I was reading all the drama peacefully...and you brought me here
Do you want to teach me how to play my champ? Any problem of soloing all map in martial trait line? Did you notice I play without a single heal - ty to all random healers btw - without a kinnie support, far from all freep support mostly and without store pots. Did I insult you or made any comment about you? Are you underaged without any sign of maturity? Ill ask my older son to talk to you if needed, ok? You don't need to reply but think a bit about yourself before post silly things.
P.S.
Jamesar signature should be removed. It is disrespectful and it shows much of some BD members behaviour.
Cya
Corlindel Morenoldo the Battlemaster - Champ R12
Kah Headhunter Harvester of Sorrow - Reaver R9
Nah Narauko LM - Vasko Warden - Mizi Star Burg - Mah Guardian - Heidiklum WL
Exiles of Numenor / Scumbags - GILRAIN EU
@Haue - sadly a lone voice of reason tends to get drowned out these days. Rather than have a few digs at each other now and then, its full scale toddler tantrums for pages and pages. Times have changed. I remember your post about the best you can aim for is to be respected and still think it struck a chord with why a lot of the old timers played this game, but hey.
I've played on the moors three times since audacity came in and it was nice to see some of the old creep crew, missed some of those that remain, but been freepside pve myself.
Reasons I have gone off pvp:
Healing spikes under the audacity system ruin play.
Comms is a grind, Pvp used to be less grindy than pve, or at least it felt so.
Largescale use of shop consumables.
Farming mentality, which got much worse when the lock went and rewards were heavily boosted for pve elements on the map, it never went away.
A general lack of solidarity for one side. Perhaps most sadly people who don't attack kinnies on the other side.
A nose dive in respect for all people who go to the moors to play against people rather than a game engine; it used to be just having the guts to do so commanded a bit of respect; now its hate and vengence.
They overfixed my warg.
Some folks will get their kicks by achieving on different levels, fine, nothing wrong with that.
Someone who side switches, used the store be immune to leg breaks and CC or goes fotm and has a high rank and enjoys doing that has as much right to get their kicks that way as someone who doesn't buy store consumables, sticks to one side, sticks to a toon when its harder to play and dumps one when its easy and has less infanown as a result.
Each will obtain personal satisfaction and respect from their peers in different ways and by different people. Its a game. If the quality of the game is adversely affected by its design and by the choices made by the player base, this is beyond your control and all you can do is choose how much time to dedicate to it.
Corlindel is probably in my opinion the finest champ gilrain ever had. There are other great champs.
Folks who get 2k rating have achieved something. How and when they achieve it scales the achievement, but the achievement belongs to them. Here's to everyone who could be bothered to do it.
Kin reputations are the sum of other peoples perceptions of them. I like some people in kins whose perceptable attitude annoys me, thats always been true. Personally to this day there are only 4 people I have met on Gilrain I have taken a genuine dislike to, thats out of thousands I've encountered, but yeah not everyone I meet is gonna be a soulmate, do I care enough to broadcast it to the world... no.
This is the Nadir of the ongoing thread, I've never seen it so bad. It does read like an 10 year old's WOW chat..
./sigh
"Romper: You have the power to make EM less boring for yourself and everyone else. "
"Look for your lore. But do not trust to lore, it has forsaken these lands." - Eolore prince of Lorehan
@Haue - sadly a lone voice of reason tends to get drowned out these days. Rather than have a few digs at each other now and then, its full scale toddler tantrums for pages and pages. Times have changed. I remember your post about the best you can aim for is to be respected and still think it struck a chord with why a lot of the old timers played this game, but hey.
I've played on the moors three times since audacity came in and it was nice to see some of the old creep crew, missed some of those that remain, but been freepside pve myself.
Reasons I have gone off pvp:
Healing spikes under the audacity system ruin play.
Comms is a grind, Pvp used to be less grindy than pve, or at least it felt so.
Largescale use of shop consumables.
Farming mentality, which got much worse when the lock went and rewards were heavily boosted for pve elements on the map, it never went away.
A general lack of solidarity for one side. Perhaps most sadly people who don't attack kinnies on the other side.
A nose dive in respect for all people who go to the moors to play against people rather than a game engine; it used to be just having the guts to do so commanded a bit of respect; now its hate and vengence.
They overfixed my warg.
Some folks will get their kicks by achieving on different levels, fine, nothing wrong with that.
Someone who side switches, used the store be immune to leg breaks and CC or goes fotm and has a high rank and enjoys doing that has as much right to get their kicks that way as someone who doesn't buy store consumables, sticks to one side, sticks to a toon when its harder to play and dumps one when its easy and has less infanown as a result.
Each will obtain personal satisfaction and respect from their peers in different ways and by different people. Its a game. If the quality of the game is adversely affected by its design and by the choices made by the player base, this is beyond your control and all you can do is choose how much time to dedicate to it.
Corlindel is probably in my opinion the finest champ gilrain ever had. There are other great champs.
Folks who get 2k rating have achieved something. How and when they achieve it scales the achievement, but the achievement belongs to them. Here's to everyone who could be bothered to do it.
Kin reputations are the sum of other peoples perceptions of them. I like some people in kins whose perceptable attitude annoys me, thats always been true. Personally to this day there are only 4 people I have met on Gilrain I have taken a genuine dislike to, thats out of thousands I've encountered, but yeah not everyone I meet is gonna be a soulmate, do I care enough to broadcast it to the world... no.
This is the Nadir of the ongoing thread, I've never seen it so bad. It does read like an 10 year old's WOW chat..
./sigh
Wiley, for someone who's been around for a while, you ought to remember things were much worse before. I find these discussions rather civil compared to the wall of flames we used to see a few years ago.
Anyways, I hope to see you back on creep some day soon. Warg is hardly overfixed, it's a lot weaker than in Moria(when creep side also was very weak) and you'll have to do the performance of your life to kill anything but hunters and rks(probably cappys as well), and ofc poor players of any class. and even these two classes can kill you, many ppl just as easily as you can kill them. That's what I call a bit of balance between single classes. But still, warg is fairly strong compared to the rest of the creeps, that really says a lot about the condition of freep side today.
Indeed the comm system is a terrible grind, I'm still at rank 5 audacity, 55,000 infamy after I returned. and 55k inf isn't a small thing in my eyes. I can only imagine what a toil it is to non-wargs/-BAs and newer players.
And lol @ the corlindel bashing. A champ that other champs should learn a thing or two from.
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Leader of the Warg Supremacy Foundation. Retired since RoR came.
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Let's hope they reduce the costs of skills with 90% in this period so that maybe, just maybe, we can get some new creeps going.
Prob is Stoff (I know you know) with the state of Comms this means that the store is still being used as the main gateway to obtaining skills and traits, more so with this damn sale. Christ, it's quicker to grind out 350 TPs through PvE Deeds that it is to earn the bloody skill on a Creep through PvP.
In amongst all the complaints, post deletes, thread closures and silence, that sale is a slap in the face.
Prob is Stoff (I know you know) with the state of Comms this means that the store is still being used as the main gateway to obtaining skills and traits, more so with this damn sale. Christ, it's quicker to grind out 350 TPs through PvE Deeds that it is to earn the bloody skill on a Creep through PvP.
In amongst all the complaints, post deletes, thread closures and silence, that sale is a slap in the face.
Yep, but as it is now, a 90% sale is the only way. And yes, it's a sad situation that you cannot get your skills from ranking anymore, you really HAVE TO buy them in the store.
Leader of the Warg Supremacy Foundation. Retired since RoR came.
Errr. I was reading all the drama peacefully...and you brought me here
Do you want to teach me how to play my champ? Any problem of soloing all map in martial trait line? Did you notice I play without a single heal - ty to all random healers btw - without a kinnie support, far from all freep support mostly and without store pots. Did I insult you or made any comment about you? Are you underaged without any sign of maturity? Ill ask my older son to talk to you if needed, ok? You don't need to reply but think a bit about yourself before post silly things.
P.S.
Jamesar signature should be removed. It is disrespectful and it shows much of some BD members behaviour.
Cya
No,it's not that I have something against You,I just find it silly because he called name of a champion that after RoI when champ got incredible boost, still used trait line that was considered as overkill and then posting about semi-retire from game because champion is godmode.
@Haue - sadly a lone voice of reason tends to get drowned out these days. Rather than have a few digs at each other now and then, its full scale toddler tantrums for pages and pages. Times have changed. I remember your post about the best you can aim for is to be respected and still think it struck a chord with why a lot of the old timers played this game, but hey.
I've played on the moors three times since audacity came in and it was nice to see some of the old creep crew, missed some of those that remain, but been freepside pve myself.
Reasons I have gone off pvp:
Healing spikes under the audacity system ruin play.
Comms is a grind, Pvp used to be less grindy than pve, or at least it felt so.
Largescale use of shop consumables.
Farming mentality, which got much worse when the lock went and rewards were heavily boosted for pve elements on the map, it never went away.
A general lack of solidarity for one side. Perhaps most sadly people who don't attack kinnies on the other side.
A nose dive in respect for all people who go to the moors to play against people rather than a game engine; it used to be just having the guts to do so commanded a bit of respect; now its hate and vengence.
They overfixed my warg.
Some folks will get their kicks by achieving on different levels, fine, nothing wrong with that.
Someone who side switches, used the store be immune to leg breaks and CC or goes fotm and has a high rank and enjoys doing that has as much right to get their kicks that way as someone who doesn't buy store consumables, sticks to one side, sticks to a toon when its harder to play and dumps one when its easy and has less infanown as a result.
Each will obtain personal satisfaction and respect from their peers in different ways and by different people. Its a game. If the quality of the game is adversely affected by its design and by the choices made by the player base, this is beyond your control and all you can do is choose how much time to dedicate to it.
Corlindel is probably in my opinion the finest champ gilrain ever had. There are other great champs.
Folks who get 2k rating have achieved something. How and when they achieve it scales the achievement, but the achievement belongs to them. Here's to everyone who could be bothered to do it.
Kin reputations are the sum of other peoples perceptions of them. I like some people in kins whose perceptable attitude annoys me, thats always been true. Personally to this day there are only 4 people I have met on Gilrain I have taken a genuine dislike to, thats out of thousands I've encountered, but yeah not everyone I meet is gonna be a soulmate, do I care enough to broadcast it to the world... no.
This is the Nadir of the ongoing thread, I've never seen it so bad. It does read like an 10 year old's WOW chat..
./sigh
Wiley! Come back! At least come to the peace event tomorow. Hopefully it won't end in a blood bath..
And yes I retired my champ because the class when well played became OP. To be able to kill 3 mid ranked wargs, escape to 6/7 wargs and still getting one kill or being caught with 3.5k morale by 2 high ranked wargs in open field and kill both is a sign of Opness imo. Got more fun escaping creep raid zergs than killing creeps lately and champ opdate made me play more relaxed than a hunter pewpewing in stab surrounded and protected by a full raid...In other words became boring. And dont understad your words about glory trait. I play in glory/fervour/cb depending the circunstances. Well..ok. back to work. I have a busy RL.
cya
Corlindel Morenoldo the Battlemaster - Champ R12
Kah Headhunter Harvester of Sorrow - Reaver R9
Nah Narauko LM - Vasko Warden - Mizi Star Burg - Mah Guardian - Heidiklum WL
Exiles of Numenor / Scumbags - GILRAIN EU
And yes I retired my champ because the class when well played became OP. To be able to kill 3 mid ranked wargs, escape to 6/7 wargs and still getting one kill or being caught with 3.5k morale by 2 high ranked wargs in open field and kill both is a sign of Opness imo. Got more fun escaping creep raid zergs than killing creeps lately and champ opdate made me play more relaxed than a hunter pewpewing in stab surrounded and protected by a full raid...In other words became boring. And dont understad your words about glory trait. I play in glory/fervour/cb depending the circunstances. Well..ok. back to work. I have a busy RL.
cya
When I played reaver before audacity I had no bigger problems with killing average champions and I am only rank 7. When I had to spar skilled champions I was winning about half of my fights but then all used fervour. Using glory traits in PvP is considered unfair and not without reason because it makes champ nearly unkillable even for few creeps. Glory traits are totally unneeded in EM and using them just make you look nooby. If you wanted challenge why didn't you roll with fervour traits? I can guarantee it will be lot less boring than staying alive for 3 minutes and waiting for sprint CD to run away (not talking about You in this example).
No,it's not that I have something against You,I just find it silly because he called name of a champion that after RoI when champ got incredible boost, still used trait line that was considered as overkill and then posting about semi-retire from game because champion is godmode.
Glory has nothing to do with champ being op because very few champs use it.
As Corlindel says, he could pretty much steamroll everything and so can champs today. For Nargai or Nethnoro to actually have a challenge, they have to bind one hand to their back or take on huge numbers. And that my friend, is the very definition of op.
I am not calling them fotm ofc, as they played champ long before champ became fotm, but they are exploiting it to the max by taking full advantage of p2w to enhance an already op class. They may do as they wish, but ppl around them react.
As Nargai has already admitted, he has NEVER been killed in a 1v1 without nerfing himself(after champ was boosted ofc). And that's pretty extreme.
Leader of the Warg Supremacy Foundation. Retired since RoR came.
If you act like a jerk there, or gank or anything of the like, the other side will sort you out quickly. If you're not participating, just stay away from TR HS.
Leader of Rogues Gallery. Uruk dominance campaigner.
Glory has nothing to do with champ being op because very few champs use it.
As Corlindel says, he could pretty much steamroll everything and so can champs today. For Nargai or Nethnoro to actually have a challenge, they have to bind one hand to their back or take on huge numbers. And that my friend, is the very definition of op.
I am not calling them fotm ofc, as they played champ long before champ became fotm, but they are exploiting it to the max by taking full advantage of p2w to enhance an already op class. They may do as they wish, but ppl around them react.
As Nargai has already admitted, he has NEVER been killed in a 1v1 without nerfing himself(after champ was boosted ofc). And that's pretty extreme.
He could steamroll everything with glory traits,yes but with fervour,champ dies within seconds against like 2-3 wargs. About Narg, couple of days ago I sparred him on my audacity 1 rank 7 reaver and made him use 2 sudden defence bubbles,true heroics and morale potion but still i am only rank 1 audacity once i will bother with audacity on my reaver i believe i will be able to kill him and he won't have to nerf himself. Should i be nerfed? And about exploiting champs. Traiting Glory is best example of "exploiting" champions because in one on one situations it makes champion unkillable unless it's very "talented" champion. If "Glory has nothing to do with champ being op because very few champs use it." then don't dare to call Ravezot OP/exploiter because he is the only one that uses healing traits in EM.
but they are exploiting it to the max by taking full advantage of p2w to enhance an already op class. They may do as they wish, but ppl around them react.
lol, have you ever fought a pay to win warg? They're near unkillable in a 1v1, and I've seen plenty in the few minutes I played freep today. One warg who I won't name popped a brand in a 3v1. Creeps are as bad, if not worse, than freeps. I've seen one solo creep so far, who was a warg who used hips and ran off, against my poorly geared burglar.
Can't blame Neth at all really, at least you can find him solo.
lol, have you ever fought a pay to win warg? They're near unkillable in a 1v1, and I've seen plenty in the few minutes I played freep today. One warg who I won't name popped a brand in a 3v1. Creeps are as bad, if not worse, than freeps. I've seen one solo creep so far, who was a warg who used hips and ran off, against my poorly geared burglar.
Can't blame Neth at all really, at least you can find him solo.
Lol, all it takes is one loaded runekeeper and 5-6 seconds and that warg is dead, p2w or not. Poor comparison.
Leader of the Warg Supremacy Foundation. Retired since RoR came.
lol, have you ever fought a pay to win warg? They're near unkillable in a 1v1, and I've seen plenty in the few minutes I played freep today. One warg who I won't name popped a brand in a 3v1. Creeps are as bad, if not worse, than freeps. I've seen one solo creep so far, who was a warg who used hips and ran off, against my poorly geared burglar.
Wargs =/= all of creepside.
Leader of Rogues Gallery. Uruk dominance campaigner.
Yet that warg can still kill most other freeps. And I said pay to win wargs. If a warg uses a brand to fight the RK, the RK doesn't have a chance.
No, that warg can't kill freeps in a group. 1 good rk is enough to out-heal 6 wargs and killing an average non-poor freep takes longer than 5-6 seconds. If there is a hunter, burg, rk, champ or loremaster present, you will most certainly not kill any half-decent freep who is together with any of the former mentioned.
And a pay2win warg isn't THAT much different from a normal warg, I can use brand as well you know.
The rk does in fact have a very good chance even against a branded warg. Just ask the rks with the 1st age stone. A RK should win against near all wargs most of the time, if he's geared and smart.
The champion on the other hand, can attack 10 creeps and kill 1 with ease, and then run back to safety.
Leader of the Warg Supremacy Foundation. Retired since RoR came.
lol, have you ever fought a pay to win warg? They're near unkillable in a 1v1, and I've seen plenty in the few minutes I played freep today. One warg who I won't name popped a brand in a 3v1. Creeps are as bad, if not worse, than freeps. I've seen one solo creep so far, who was a warg who used hips and ran off, against my poorly geared burglar.
Can't blame Neth at all really, at least you can find him solo.
And lol, why is it bad to pop a brand in a 3v1 against a freep? We all know that many freeps can kill 1 or 3 creeps in a 3v1.
And yes, sometimes fights go badly, so we all use skills to get away. What's the big deal? And that warg you speak of was not chased ALONE by you. He was chased by 6 freeps, with you tracking him. He hipsed thinking the other 6 would be there soon. Don't twist stories, mate.
Bottomline, there is no comparison between warg, or any creep class for that matter, and most freep classes who excel x2-5 compared to a warg.
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