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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    I still don't understand... This is not my case, but if I i don't wanna lose rating? If i like to stay behind the battle? If i like to heal other people? If i am not experienced to do a 1vs1 even versus a rank1 reaver?
    I can't do it because you don't want "allow" me to do it?

    And i already have a rank 4 reaver, so not needed to draw pictures, screenshot, or whatever you want...
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Which ever member of Blooddrunk is kicking me out of khaos ... kindly stop it.

    Im assuming its blooddrunk as the last person to kick me out was Gargh. Who immediatly left after kicking me and joined Blooddrunk's creep tribe. Im pretty sure there is nothing on the store that benefits you controlling which tribe creeps belong to.

    The only solace i can take from this *heartbreaking* situation ... that is clearly effecting me - making it much more than a simple inconvenience is that it wasnt retarious or nimolas as i know their reavers .

    So yeah ... more store branding ... less dismissing people from tribes you have no business dismissing people from. =)

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by DharmaSpider View Post
    Which ever member of Blooddrunk is kicking me out of khaos ... kindly stop it.

    Im assuming its blooddrunk as the last person to kick me out was Gargh. Who immediatly left after kicking me and joined Blooddrunk's creep tribe. Im pretty sure there is nothing on the store that benefits you controlling which tribe creeps belong to.

    The only solace i can take from this *heartbreaking* situation ... that is clearly effecting me - making it much more than a simple inconvenience is that it wasnt retarious or nimolas as i know their reavers .

    So yeah ... more store branding ... less dismissing people from tribes you have no business dismissing people from. =)
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Baronth View Post
    I still don't understand... This is not my case, but if I i don't wanna lose rating? If i like to stay behind the battle? If i like to heal other people? If i am not experienced to do a 1vs1 even versus a rank1 reaver?
    I can't do it because you don't want "allow" me to do it?

    And i already have a rank 4 reaver, so not needed to draw pictures, screenshot, or whatever you want...
    Im not telling people how to play, Im suggesting maybe to branch out and live a little instead of playing safe with your Uber heals, uber DPs, uber CC, uber pots, uber mits, uber legendary weapons and of course the ultra fashionable store goodies.

    Example of the funniest thing i saw last night was a burg using a brand to get away as there was a sniff of danger for them. Im guessing there must have been a secret update where all the burgs escape skills got taken away.........oh wait there wasnt.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    So people are still playing in the moors... Is't there a strike in EM?

    Well, about the freeps running as soon as they get hit or something...
    Creeps do that too, accept reavers ... Eh, some does a charge and escapes though :P

    Hunters and LM's have problem fighting closecombat or even fighting when taking hit's, I understand every freep and creep running when on low morale... When you are on low morale you are as most yummy for everyone, atleast for Wargs and Burgs.
    If I know I will die I will fight to the death, but if I think I can stand a chance escaping I will... Even if I started the fight Freep or Creep.
    I play one of few LM's that are standing at the frontlines fighting but as soon I get hit I will withdraw if I can, I don't care if I die but I know I will do more help if I survive and can get back on my feet asap rather than running back from spawn or waiting for a rez.

    Freeps is OP compared to Creeps though and I understand Creeps compaining about it... But a player is the same player even if he/she is a Freep or Creep.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Another boring night of keep swapping *sighs
    Map red 100's of freeps small handful of creeps
    Map blue 100's of creeps handful of freeps
    So no real chance of any actual pvp decent action. Dull, dull, dull, dull.......... repeat till boredom sets in.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    >_>

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    I'll just throw in my two cents here

    $1: I've been to gilrain moors for a week or.. three? maybe?

    I see hunters standing at ta, only coming down when they can kill something, even standing at oc, occasionally charging in, but mostly just standing there, pewpewing the low ranks/spiders/defilers. At the very first hint of trouble, every single one of them bolts all the way back into ta, up the ramp and sits there until creeps walk on west ta again *repeat until bored*

    $2: I see blackarrows do the exact same. the. exact. same. thing. Only they do it from oc because of the above. When a raid forms everyone joins and the freeps vanish into thin air. In the three weeks i've been there i have NEVER seen a freepraid pick up their bows and stomp the creepraid that's there.

    That's all i've seen so far, please do not blast me for posting my opinion, thank you in advance

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Ellithiel, it is somewhat a blessing that you've not had a freep raid come and stomp you, it is not much of a fight when it happens.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSandman70 View Post
    Another boring night of keep swapping *sighs
    Map red 100's of freeps small handful of creeps
    Map blue 100's of creeps handful of freeps
    So no real chance of any actual pvp decent action. Dull, dull, dull, dull.......... repeat till boredom sets in.
    This is so true. Hardly visiting moors anymore on burg, same stuff repeats every day. Freeps have TA and they hug it, after that freeps push creeps to wtab, then to OC and then to lug spawn. What i've experienced, the best action is at mornings or something like 12:00-15:00. Evenings are all about boring pew pew and zerging.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Your right there on the timings Jureon!
    It used to be a keep was taken as a way of insisting one raid to attack another raid, a strategy, not a way to buff your rank up and make money selling brooches etc.

    I fear this could be the death of pvp in the moors we've already lost a few to other mmo's lets not lose more who actually want to pvp in the only area we have to do it in down to the fact you cant get any decent action.

    The pvp raid the other day was brilliant but these days seems to be coming scarcer, I dread the day we see Em raids in the instance finder It's already made its way to globalllf

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    I've asked 7 times in the last two weeks when on freep in ooc asking * Why are you hugging all the time, and, why don't you ever start a group to do groups and group *

    The response everytime?

    * Because we're OP *

    * Because we can't be asked to move *

    * Too easy *

    * No one wants to lead *

    * Even when we group up no one is leading the creeps *

    * Creeps suck so no point in grouping *


    These are some of the responses I've had back in OOC and PM's ...


    I'm slowly stopping EM as-well because it's so pathetic. Just back and fourth pew-pew, or freeps slaughtering creeps even running into OC, having 5 creeps die and all freeps survive.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    Ellithiel, it is somewhat a blessing that you've not had a freep raid come and stomp you, it is not much of a fight when it happens.
    Ah Squelcher but you know with good aggressive leadership on both sides we can earn good infamy/renown, we all count our blessings in a pvp raid and hope its not our name on the RAT!

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    We can only hope and prey that Turbine bring back some sort of cool down on the changing sides or I guess we shall just have to put up with trying to pick off the lone stragglers at the back of a keep swapping raid

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellithiel View Post
    >_>

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    I'll just throw in my two cents here

    $1: I've been to gilrain moors for a week or.. three? maybe?

    I see hunters standing at ta, only coming down when they can kill something, even standing at oc, occasionally charging in, but mostly just standing there, pewpewing the low ranks/spiders/defilers. At the very first hint of trouble, every single one of them bolts all the way back into ta, up the ramp and sits there until creeps walk on west ta again *repeat until bored*

    $2: I see blackarrows do the exact same. the. exact. same. thing. Only they do it from oc because of the above. When a raid forms everyone joins and the freeps vanish into thin air. In the three weeks i've been there i have NEVER seen a freepraid pick up their bows and stomp the creepraid that's there.

    That's all i've seen so far, please do not blast me for posting my opinion, thank you in advance
    Glad to have you with us and whats to blast, you say it how you see it and with a fresh pair of eyes. I think its harder when you know how good it can be.

    Boring pew pew action is not new, but its more frequent these days; nor is the problem of getting the right RvR environment a new thing, but it is harder as equal RvR action nowerdays is heavily skewed towards the freeps. Occasional decent stuff does happen, but its now rare rather than the norm like it used to be.

    Yup there are some reluctant leaders on the creepside who will take it on from time to time, or large groups working in tandem can occur. The strength of shopped up BA's compared to other creeps is not helping anymore than the strength of some freep classes. But there is little fun in a dominant freep raid steamrollering the entire map unstoppably for the creeps either and that is not the fault of the freeps really.

    Nuke strength has increased so much that fights lack the old drawn out element that made them so interesting. A trend of store consumables is eating the heart out of the moors as is dual boxing. But all is not lost while some remain true.

    Current open fight dynamics are affected by all these issues as well as mass logging in the event of facing a raid on both sides, sideswitching too. Its funny that so many reappear when raids fold.

    Now if you could get a 3-2 ratio of creeps:freeps up and people stuck at it, the golden age could be here again. People are less inclined to care if they die if the action is good, the opposition stick at it and folks are deeemed to be fighting fair.

    Its all so near and yet so far.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorebane View Post
    I've asked 7 times in the last two weeks when on freep in ooc asking * Why are you hugging all the time, and, why don't you ever start a group to do groups and group *

    The response everytime?

    * Because we're OP *

    * Because we can't be asked to move *

    * Too easy *

    * No one wants to lead *

    * Even when we group up no one is leading the creeps *

    * Creeps suck so no point in grouping *


    These are some of the responses I've had back in OOC and PM's ...


    I'm slowly stopping EM as-well because it's so pathetic. Just back and fourth pew-pew, or freeps slaughtering creeps even running into OC, having 5 creeps die and all freeps survive.

    U slowly stopping Em ? i wonder if u ever start playing it.
    Guess u wasnt last time in em when there was epic raid Leaded by Loop on freep side and was great action at least for 2h
    Been on em for last 2 weeks havent seen u once asking for it( Seen u meybe 3-4 times for like 5 minutes) So stop talking like u was there evryday
    There are groups of friends/kins who playing together. So Open your eyes.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillrain View Post
    U slowly stopping Em ? i wonder if u ever start playing it.
    Guess u wasnt last time in em when there was epic raid Leaded by Loop on freep side and was great action at least for 2h
    Been on em for last 2 weeks havent seen u once asking for it( Seen u meybe 3-4 times for like 5 minutes) So stop talking like u was there evryday
    There are groups of friends/kins who playing together. So Open your eyes.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    My gripe with the huggers is that you would actually(like i have been trying to convince/tell you) find better fights away from the main fight. Go a wondering solo or 2 or 3 of you together and you might actually find it more enjoyable. I do and I find it fun, more of a challange yes but its even better when it pays off. Doesnt it get boring pressing the same 3 buttons at same place killing the same group of creeps over and over and not really having any sort of challenge or risk? We all complain about having the same map for 4 years yet most of you sit in the same 3 places for 4 of that years. Who says you have to raid up all the time in EM, freeps are so strong every class can solo away from the main fight no probs so why dont you try it more often? No doubt someone will cry , you cant tell people how to play the game....well im not im making a suggestion. Then someone else might gripe, but im rubbish solo. Well from what i have noticed is a lot might be rubbish cause all they know is the raid zerg machine and never try solo. Try it more and you will get better. People dont appear in EM brilliant at being solo, they work on it and become better. Small kin/tribe teams are the best fun ever.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillrain View Post
    U slowly stopping Em ? i wonder if u ever start playing it.
    Guess u wasnt last time in em when there was epic raid Leaded by Loop on freep side and was great action at least for 2h
    Been on em for last 2 weeks havent seen u once asking for it( Seen u meybe 3-4 times for like 5 minutes) So stop talking like u was there evryday
    There are groups of friends/kins who playing together. So Open your eyes.
    Still, even if Thore isn't playing on EM all he said is true. The action was awesome during the raid vs raid, but that kind of fights happen maximum once a month. EM is boring atm and never been this unbalanced before. But hopefully U6 will bring some balance updating wargs and weavers. Think you need to open your eyes and remove the freep goggles
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Romper View Post
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Good Spar Ologhaithar stopped fighting on first try beacouse burg showed up and u had 10% inc dmg so it was unfair.

    Good Fight on second time

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSandman70 View Post
    Ah Squelcher but you know with good aggressive leadership on both sides we can earn good infamy/renown, we all count our blessings in a pvp raid and hope its not our name on the RAT!
    If both sides have equal balls, leaders and numbers, the freeps will win. The amount of infamy gained in the process will vary though.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillrain View Post
    U slowly stopping Em ? i wonder if u ever start playing it.
    Guess u wasnt last time in em when there was epic raid Leaded by Loop on freep side and was great action at least for 2h
    Been on em for last 2 weeks havent seen u once asking for it( Seen u meybe 3-4 times for like 5 minutes) So stop talking like u was there evryday
    There are groups of friends/kins who playing together. So Open your eyes.
    Last two days I haven't been in as I've been raiding when I've been online, due to looking for work in other times.

    I knew about the loop loop raid when someone pm'd me in game saying coming to the moors there's a great raid on, and I give a thank you to loop for trying his best I've played with loop before and he's a great person.


    And please don't try to insult me or become cocky by saying that you don't see me, because when I asked this question I WAS there everyday for a week, I've seen how moors has changed since SoA days and it's terribly unbalanced right now. Just because you don't see me there doesn't mean I'm not, however after about 10 minutes of boring pew pew I leave hence because of it. That's not the PVP I like, I liked it how it was before Roi even came to our minds and there was every night minus Sunday a raid on raid.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorebane View Post
    Last two days I haven't been in as I've been raiding when I've been online, due to looking for work in other times.

    I knew about the loop loop raid when someone pm'd me in game saying coming to the moors there's a great raid on, and I give a thank you to loop for trying his best I've played with loop before and he's a great person.


    And please don't try to insult me or become cocky by saying that you don't see me, because when I asked this question I WAS there everyday for a week, I've seen how moors has changed since SoA days and it's terribly unbalanced right now. Just because you don't see me there doesn't mean I'm not, however after about 10 minutes of boring pew pew I leave hence because of it. That's not the PVP I like, I liked it how it was before Roi even came to our minds and there was every night minus Sunday a raid on raid.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorebane View Post
    Last two days I haven't been in as I've been raiding when I've been online, due to looking for work in other times.

    I knew about the loop loop raid when someone pm'd me in game saying coming to the moors there's a great raid on, and I give a thank you to loop for trying his best I've played with loop before and he's a great person.


    And please don't try to insult me or become cocky by saying that you don't see me, because when I asked this question I WAS there everyday for a week, I've seen how moors has changed since SoA days and it's terribly unbalanced right now. Just because you don't see me there doesn't mean I'm not, however after about 10 minutes of boring pew pew I leave hence because of it. That's not the PVP I like, I liked it how it was before Roi even came to our minds and there was every night minus Sunday a raid on raid.
    ,,I've seen how moors has changes since SoA
    ... there was every night minus Sunday a raid on raid"
    U Made my day bud what u doing in em then if u playing since SoA ? u shoudnt been rank 10< by this time ?.I WOuld love to say few things 2 u but dont wanna be mean so will end this here with big "."




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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    I just logged onto Gilrain after prob 1 year, just have to say one thing:
    That was some amount of freeps.

    Seems the moors is not dead on this server (yet).

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    always 'epic' night in EM when freeps pwn creeps it seems?

    Love the animosity towards someone with there own opinion on the state of PvP (which is very a valid opinion), its a discussion thread, dont like whats said, then discuss, dont hate.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillrain View Post
    ,,I've seen how moors has changes since SoA
    ... there was every night minus Sunday a raid on raid"
    U Made my day bud what u doing in em then if u playing since SoA ? u shoudnt been rank 10< by this time ?.I WOuld love to say few things 2 u but dont wanna be mean so will end this here with big "."




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    "U Made my day bud what u doing in em then if u playing since SoA ? u shoudnt been rank 10< by this time ?.I WOuld love to say few things 2 u but dont wanna be mean so will end this here with big "." "

    Yes I have been playing seen then, and I'm sure I would be rank 10 but I played on a laptop and a oldoldold pc before that for three years that had at max 10fps with ultra lowest graphics.

    Try playing moors with that and get past rank 5 like me.

    Find me in game if you wish to say something, though I don't see what you'd like to say that wouldn't be trolling. I've said nothing that could've angered or upset someone, nor have I lied or insulted other people so I'd like to know what you have to say about me, to me.

    Ps, I agree that was some PVP that I haven't seen in a good many months. Well done to Loop for leading a full 24 man raid and bringing much love and fights back into moors this past week, also well done to Celebrahim for starting and leading the second raid which I joined due to no places in the main one Nice retake of TA and smashing the creep raid at the same time haha!

    Also well done to the creeps that tried there best, even if they didn't get as many kills you put up a great defense many times at TA and OC, Well Done !
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    I just want to say that I love to be creep when the freep vs creep ratio is 3-4/2 a whole night long.
    I love to help freeps breaking their record of number of creep kills/day
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Not quite sure why Thorb is being slammed on in the last few posts. Imo what he's said is largely true of EM at the moment, it is dead, it is chronically unbalanced and it is in the worst state I've ever seen it in and to reference one Loop Raid, and the resulting 2 whole hours of 'decent' PvP as a counter-argument to Thorb's post? sorry you're going to need more than that.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    i have to say this night was both great fun and dissapointing.

    the night started of very good with raid vs raid. we wiped eachother a couple of times.

    after a while, more freeps started ariving it became tough but still managable in oc.

    then 30 minutes later hell broke loose and we were facing 45 freeps (wargtrack count. numbers estimated 50+)

    it were awesome fights and good freepl eading. but it makes me really really sad that freeps choose to farm with 50 rather then logging creep. i even came to freep ooc to ask for eventual relogging but only 3 freeps logged over. please please please consider to log creep next time when its 50 vs 24.

    putting that aside i have to say that its good that we have good pvp in this server again. tomorrow ill be here too and we will see if the numbers are more evenly matched then.'

    thanks all for the great night!

    ako.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by akoriath View Post
    i have to say this night was both great fun and dissapointing.

    the night started of very good with raid vs raid. we wiped eachother a couple of times.

    after a while, more freeps started ariving it became tough but still managable in oc.

    then 30 minutes later hell broke loose and we were facing 45 freeps (wargtrack count. numbers estimated 50+)

    it were awesome fights and good freepl eading. but it makes me really really sad that freeps choose to farm with 50 rather then logging creep. i even came to freep ooc to ask for eventual relogging but only 3 freeps logged over. please please please consider to log creep next time when its 50 vs 24.

    putting that aside i have to say that its good that we have good pvp in this server again. tomorrow ill be here too and we will see if the numbers are more evenly matched then.'

    thanks all for the great night!

    ako.
    I was about to swap to creep with two others just as the second server lag went off haha, it ended up with us having a 15 minute log in time and when I logged in I was still getting some silly 18% loss :/ so called it off and I've actually come offline now. However if there is a raid tomorrow I shall definitely bring my defiler for a few more healsez!

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    If I may interject with this about today:

    Day started like usual, then rather than stay at oc and get bogged down in pew pew, the creeps broke up into small groups and flipped the map except TA. They then avoided oc and ta like the plague.

    The result since no-one raided up was the best small scale all over the map action i've seen in months. People were there to fight and they showed it, it was to the death, it was unpredictable, it was a change of scene and it was great.

    The raid v raid action as Ako inferred began great. Both sides were aggressive and it was good to see. So we are most of the way through the day with one of the best, if not the best, in months to be honest.

    Salute to everyone who was there both freep and creep, folks u normally see bolting for cover were in there and going for it.

    Now, for the amusing part.. when i said the best ratio for the moors was 3:2, I clearly meant in favour of the creeps >.< so 36v24 was a bit much, but what can you do, the ones who had fought all day could hardly say oh we'll shoot off now, but the freep numbers spiraled. It was indeed through our exceptional intelligence service that freep numbers peaked at over 50, creeps were running about 30.

    That said, neither side resorted to un-needed hugging. Both sides gave it their all. Kudos to the leaders, tribe/kin groups and the whole of gilrains pvp population, except those who might have seen a global LFF come to moors its great and not even thought to bring a creep =)

    cya on the moors =)

    Was a particularly good day on balance.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    As freeps have probably noticed i'm always grouped with Seldini or Luitenant, both my tribe members or we even have like a 6 man tribe group, i've been leading raids on creep since 2007, stopped it in the last year because well, nobody listens anymore, I could run one way and the rest off the raid will run the other, nobody listens to leader or follows rat, maybe that's why the action is poor?
    Also about the freeps being OP, as I pointed out the otherday, i'm a rank 8 BA with 11k morale and all the mits etc etc...I got nuked by a hunter in less than a second...Either hunters need anerf or BA's need stealth and burn hot?

    Also, as for the raid switching keep things, it's pretty lame but if it's what people decide too do then it's their choice i'm afraid, they probably after the DP for pve raids, nothing more...

    Rant over.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by akoriath View Post
    i have to say this night was both great fun and dissapointing.

    the night started of very good with raid vs raid. we wiped eachother a couple of times.

    after a while, more freeps started ariving it became tough but still managable in oc.

    then 30 minutes later hell broke loose and we were facing 45 freeps (wargtrack count. numbers estimated 50+)

    it were awesome fights and good freepl eading. but it makes me really really sad that freeps choose to farm with 50 rather then logging creep. i even came to freep ooc to ask for eventual relogging but only 3 freeps logged over. please please please consider to log creep next time when its 50 vs 24.

    putting that aside i have to say that its good that we have good pvp in this server again. tomorrow ill be here too and we will see if the numbers are more evenly matched then.'

    thanks all for the great night!

    ako.
    I would have joined on Creep, but I was doing Saruman...
    I am afraid lot's of this side switching is an issue and also rumors going on Freep chats... Like I read here on forums 'Loop is leading an awsome raid, there is great battle in EM'.
    When there is a great battle 30vs40 freeps/Creeps it's awsome, then all these 'I wanna go to EM to fight epic battles' arrives and also some creeps leaves and thinks 'Good time for me to get renown for my freep'.... Suddenly 40vs15 Freeps/creeps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baradorion View Post
    As freeps have probably noticed i'm always grouped with Seldini or Luitenant, both my tribe members or we even have like a 6 man tribe group, i've been leading raids on creep since 2007, stopped it in the last year because well, nobody listens anymore, I could run one way and the rest off the raid will run the other, nobody listens to leader or follows rat, maybe that's why the action is poor?
    Also about the freeps being OP, as I pointed out the otherday, i'm a rank 8 BA with 11k morale and all the mits etc etc...I got nuked by a hunter in less than a second...Either hunters need anerf or BA's need stealth and burn hot?

    Also, as for the raid switching keep things, it's pretty lame but if it's what people decide too do then it's their choice i'm afraid, they probably after the DP for pve raids, nothing more...

    Rant over.
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    Noticed that too on creep side, ppl are having problems listening to the raidleader... Also noticed lot's of higher ranks are to good for raid... they rather go solo, atleast BA's.

    But I don't think that's the issue to why moors is almost unpleasurable.
    It's always uneven numbers, The last weeks I have been playing creep who is mostly pushed up at OC or spawn.I have been in a creepraid going around looking for the few freeps around, I have been in a creepraid doing PvE keep takeovers.

    When there is a creepraid; freeps log, and when there is a freepraid; Creeps log or atleast stand in Grams.
    There are starhuggers and sideswitchers and much more kinds of players that do moors no good. We can't do anything about it, Turbine can...
    Why the **** are there no sideswitching locks!?
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    A side note. When freeps have been spawncamping or atleast fighting at OC... I see like 4-5 creeps with me at OC or spawn...
    I see even 5-6 more creeps chatting on OOC, out doing OP's or looking for freep strays or something.
    So when I have been spawncamped I always run out trying to atleast tickle a freep before I die and then do it again, when this freep is getting weary there are always some wargs eating this sorry fool. And suddenly all Spawncamped Creeps charge and freeps goes 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR RRRGHHHHHHHH!!!' and run. Spawncampers is a brave breed I say.

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Legacy View Post
    Noticed that too on creep side, ppl are having problems listening to the raidleader... Also noticed lot's of higher ranks are to good for raid... they rather go solo, atleast BA's.

    But I don't think that's the issue to why moors is almost unpleasurable.
    It's always uneven numbers, The last weeks I have been playing creep who is mostly pushed up at OC or spawn.I have been in a creepraid going around looking for the few freeps around, I have been in a creepraid doing PvE keep takeovers.

    When there is a creepraid; freeps log, and when there is a freepraid; Creeps log or atleast stand in Grams.
    There are starhuggers and sideswitchers and much more kinds of players that do moors no good. We can't do anything about it, Turbine can...
    Why the **** are there no sideswitching locks!?
    Why do we have rating? Killingblows would be enough.



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    A side note. When freeps have been spawncamping or atleast fighting at OC... I see like 4-5 creeps with me at OC or spawn...
    I see even 5-6 more creeps chatting on OOC, out doing OP's or looking for freep strays or something.
    So when I have been spawncamped I always run out trying to atleast tickle a freep before I die and then do it again, when this freep is getting weary there are always some wargs eating this sorry fool. And suddenly all Spawncamped Creeps charge and freeps goes 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR RRRGHHHHHHHH!!!' and run. Spawncampers is a brave breed I say.
    I agree with the raid thing, I don't join on my BA as I dn't like to die becauise i'm trying to get 2k rating just for the fun, but if I do die I laugh it off and go back for more kills, I only join raids when I lead them and that's why I have a rank 9 reaver, but I HATE when people ignore my decisions and do their own thing,
    Sideswitching locks should be brought back imo, one minuite there's 50 creeps, next there's 50 freeps as the creeps switched side, I mean I like an even fight but well, it never is ^^
    Also, I can hit somebody for 100 points off fire damage with my BA and they will run so far so fast it's unreal...Freeps with balls ftw, like the 2 burgs and the champ under west bridge afew days ago trying to kill me and Luitenant, was only a small fight but the best for a while,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillrain View Post
    ,,I've seen how moors has changes since SoA
    Hmm, then why is it that you came along a nooby, poorly geared guardian with no rank when I was approaching R10? Shouldnt you outrank most freeps by now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    Hmm, then why is it that you came along a nooby, poorly geared guardian with no rank when I was approaching R10? Shouldnt you outrank most freeps by now?
    I've been here since SOA, should I also out rank creeps?

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    hopefully action will be good again tonight. just remember too log creep this time! <3

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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Baradorion View Post
    I've been here since SOA, should I also out rank creeps?
    You didnt turn up as a new player out of nowhere, with no rank, and no evidence of having any previous characters. You had a BA, and an active reaver.
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    Re: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    Hmm, then why is it that you came along a nooby, poorly geared guardian with no rank when I was approaching R10? Shouldnt you outrank most freeps by now?
    I dont see your point exactly.

    My Point is that they are people who coming here like My dear Friend Mr.X(wont use names) and talking Bs and acting like they are some kind of HeyIAmUbahTheBestPlayerOnTheSe rverAndiKnoweverythingAbouteve rything

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