Thread: CRIPES!!!!! Crafting question

Sorry to post this in GD but it seems like it will get a little more traffic than the Crafting forums which can be dormant sometimes......


Of course when you are leveling a tier in crafting you make what yields the most for the smallest amount of resources......but once you get to Artisan and beyond I found something really really really annoying.....anytime you crit an item while mass crafting for just XP......you get the name your item popup which stops the flow of crafting.

I like to do this and alt-tab to my browser or desktop to do stuff and not just stare at the crafting screen...this is really freekin annoying as it messes this all up. Is there a way to turn this off.....I know I can just get a junk set of tool but I am still gonna have the base 5% crit chance which could happen on the first item and while I am browsing thinking I have a 5 minute wait my game screen is sitting in purgatory waiting for me to name the item I just critted.

This is extremely annoying...please tell me there is a toggle off option for this.

Originally Posted by vVAnjilaVv

This is extremely annoying...please tell me there is a toggle off option for this.

I agree, it is very annoying. But, I still haven't found an option to not-crit or turn off the naming pop-up.

Crud...well TY for the reply...guess best you can do is minimize it to 5% with junk tools.......which is not so bad.

I can't complain...I'm able to craft everything now with my alt-crafters at level 24 and below on all three...a few months ago that was not even a possibility because of the gating quests...so I'll leave the gift horsies mouth alone

I believe a no-crit option has been requested before.
This becomes especially annoying when you are crafting for reputation quests.. since the quest giver won't accept them. (Personally I think those should count as two items, but that is another subject)

Anyway... Doubt there'll be changes any time soon.. if at all. Your best bet, as you stated, is to get junk tools and hope you don't crit.

If I'm doing a lot of crafting, I'll find a book, magazine or newspaper and read it near the computer, keeping half an eye on the screen.
That works well enough.

Originally Posted by ArtemisNoir

I believe a no-crit option has been requested before.
This becomes especially annoying when you are crafting for reputation quests.. since the quest giver won't accept them. (Personally I think those should count as two items, but that is another subject)

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Yep, from an RPG standpoint this is is rather strange:

Please craft me Item X

Player comes back with a masterfully crafted item x

No, no, the quality of this item is too god...I want an item of lesser quality

Originally Posted by ArtemisNoir

If I'm doing a lot of crafting, I'll find a book, magazine or newspaper and read it near the computer, keeping half an eye on the screen.
That works well enough.

Yep...that will have to do...I am actually in the middle of reading the Silmarillion for the first time and I plan on reading all the LoTR Tolkien books...there are like 20 of them or something associated with the Middle Earth storyline.

Call me crazy......but it is enhancing my LoTRO gameplay experience tenfold.

That's a fantastic book to read to understand the backstory. It's on my coffee table as well. Also check out the 'Atlas of Middle-earth' to go along with your readings, as it shows a great visual of the progress.

As far as the crits, those are actually a real bonus. Didn't used to be that way, as you used to have to have mastered the tier to even get those. Really surprised to be reading that people don't like it actually. If you actually want to lower the crit chance just use a lower tier crafting tool. This seems like putting a Ferrari on doughnuts for tires, but each to their own. My alts and kinmates have appreciated these crits with the new system.

Originally Posted by vVAnjilaVv

a few months ago that was not even a possibility because of the gating quests...

Gating quests were fun. Yeah, they required some levelling or having a few higher level friends to help, but they were something I was looking forward to on my crafting alts. Easier is not always the better imo, I miss them.

I'm not complaining about being able to crit...when I actually want to.......but when you are simply making 20-30 junk items at a time just to elevate your crafting levels....it is extremely annoying to have that name your item window popup and stop the whole process.

About gating quests.......coming from DDO and being a 4+ year vet the one thing I regret doing in that game was making 15 capped characters........the game was at a standstill for a very long time....and there was not much to do besides try new classes and races....then everything radically changed.

Now I have 15 characters that I love but it's impossible to keep up maintenance on all of them and keep them all end game optimal.

The thing I love about LoTRO is I just started recently and have made up my mind about only making one character.....if I want something new I will play another MMO. These games expand so much....level cap was 65 here...now it's going up to 75. I'm not going thru the multi-toon DDO thing again.

I basically have to ditch 12-13 of my characters there because it's not worth it to keep up with all of them.....so I really enjoy the fact that I was able to make 3 alt toons here that required very little effort to aid in my crafting independence. I was all into trading with people and such for everything I wanted when I first started playing here.....but I tried with guildies, the forums, and the auction....and it's outrageously expensive or I never get any replies or commitment.

Honestly if they changed crafting again I could deal with it and just use quest gear...I would be pretty annoyed tho as I have already invested a considerable amount of time getting all my alt-crafters up to artisan.......it may not be as hard as it was.....but it is still extremely time-consuming and I would hardly consider it an easy button.

If they are going to force community interaction in such a way that crafting used to be....then there has to be a large amount of the community interacting with it...crafting in this case......from what I could observe......it seemed pretty dormant on the crafting front before the change.

Just like one of the big reasons why DDO was so unpopular for so long.....it was extremely solo-unfriendly.

What I have always been unable to understand is that any shmoe critting an Artisan or higher item gets to name it, but guild members making supposedly top-flight gear do not have the option to name thier output. My preference would be to move the naming functionality from the common items and attach it to guild recipes only; add a little prestige to guild membership.

Yes, I've complained about the naming window popup before as well, in Suggestions. It's exceptionally annoying when you're on a TIMER with a CRAFTING SCROLL. Only the cook and scholar professions don't see this popup.

Not only that, but ever since... I don't remember which update now, but when the crafting panel was "updated" to be a huge lumbering hippo-behind covering over half my screen (ARGH), I get some pretty awful lag on every channel bar for each item, as if the RNG dice were getting stuck.

As suggested, if you really don't want to crit at all for mass-crafting, then invest in normal craft tools that do not carry any +% crit. You will still have your native 5%, however.

In my case, as I want to crit but don't want to lose popup time for a crafting scroll, I've positioned the crafting window's "craft" button to line up with the "cancel" button on the popup, so I can just double-click. A cumbersome workaround to lack of a crit-naming toggle.

On the other hand, I'm also curious why the guild auto-crits don't have a naming option. Those make more sense to me.

Originally Posted by vVAnjilaVv

Yep...that will have to do...I am actually in the middle of reading the Silmarillion for the first time and I plan on reading all the LoTR Tolkien books...there are like 20 of them or something associated with the Middle Earth storyline.

Call me crazy......but it is enhancing my LoTRO gameplay experience tenfold.

Of course it will. I assume you've already read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings? Then read onwards; and + rep for knowing where the real story is.

Originally Posted by Takeda

Yep, from an RPG standpoint this is is rather strange:

Please craft me Item X

Player comes back with a masterfully crafted item x

No, no, the quality of this item is too god...I want an item of lesser quality

lordy this can piss you off. The cook quest especially. I guess back before they changed it. Not sure if still this way. But there was something I had to make where I had to go all over and get ingrediants. I got enough for 3 makes thinking I was bound to get a none crit.

Took like an hour to get all the mats. Get to a camp fire and make it and I critted 3 times in a row and the stupid npc would not take it. Now that i'm thinking about it. I think I actually got just one the first time. Critted and went to turn it in. Guy would not take it. Went round got 3 more sets of ingrediants. Made it three times crited each time. Cussed and moaned. Got 3 more sets of ingrediants and the starter pan, with zero to crit.

Finally. So put me down for having more control over crits. Turn them off or chose to get double items instead of better item.

Since we're griping about crafting, why is it that the teal (guild?) made stuff is in almost every case the same or worse than the standard critted version?

I check the AH and see a teal earring for 3g for a lvl 41, and it's got baaaaarely less stats than the lvl 45 purple crit item that sells for 300 silver.

I don't see any point to those items existing, let alone someone buying them.

Originally Posted by djheydt

Of course it will. I assume you've already read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings? Then read onwards; and + rep for knowing where the real story is.

Actually...nope...I have never read any of the Middle Earth books...this is my first. I saw all the movies....loved them so much I had to have the extended versions on DVD...which by the way combined is another 2 hours of footage......found out about the Silmarillion and was absolutely pulled in because is had the origins of the whole story.

Now I am trying to piece together what order all the Unfinished Tales should be read in.....I am not sure if they coincide with the Hobbit and LoTR timeline or if they are before it or whatnot......I'm only halfway through the Silmarillion tho.......it's a great book but very complicated to read with all the migrations of the various Elvish and Race of Man tribes.

It's great though......going through the game and even watching the movies over again after reading the book(s) is so great........like I had no idea Galadriel was almost 4000 years old in the movies O.O...or maybe even older.....I am having a hard time kind of following the timeline too.

Now I finally know why there are no females dwarves and how their element of greed came to be to prevalent in their race.

Back on topic about the crafting tho......hopefully they can tweak this one minor thing.....if they don't...oh well...no big deal...it would be cool tho.