Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Awesome if it's intended. Frustrating that it's a surprise though...last week I cleared out all my alts that don't raid regularly of medallions for Scrolls of Empowerment. I could have made some serious progress towards armor pieces on one toon if we knew this was coming. :/
Oh well. Time to go shuffle what's left around just in case this disappears. If it doesn't disappear...thank you Turbine. Great change!
7 Level 65s: Champ, Hunter, Guardian, Captain, RK, LM, Burglar All of them are sick of grinding Scrolls of Empowerment Awaiting change...
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Unfortunately any existing ones are still bound to character.
Not complaining at this ninja change though!!!
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Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Waiting to hear that this is actually WAI and not an unintended change - they just fixed the HON items' binding, so this may be an unintentional switch?
Don't wanna be pessimistic though, so I'll say woo looks good
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
if it was not intended going to B2A seems like an odd glitch since its a new mechanic, iw as about to leave the game except for raiding because forcing one char for all instance made no fun... sooo happy
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Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by Skigorn
All medallions should be that way, hoping this is a start to a new trend.
Originally Posted by Neen_Eldar
Would be nice, but i doubt it - we can hope though
For armor sets that have another component (like the OD T2 sets), sure - because at least the toon you want to outfit still has to earn the armor token/medallion/whatever; but for things like the Moria and Mirkwood sets... not so much. I'm not crazy about the idea of people being able to gear up alts without those alts ever having to set foot in the instances, let alone complete them.
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Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by Lestache
For armor sets that have another component (like the OD T2 sets), sure - because at least the toon you want to outfit still has to earn the armor token/medallion/whatever; but for things like the Moria and Mirkwood sets... not so much. I'm not crazy about the idea of people being able to gear up alts without those alts ever having to set foot in the instances, let alone complete them.
Fair point, but at the same time as various sets & items become obsolete, 'bound to account' items could infact extend their longevity. (think your alts & other peoples etc)
There's no real use for the 6 DG medallions on my minstrel, the 9 on my hunter & 35 on my LRM. However combined i have a scroll of empowerment, which could benefit me or you
Throw more into the mix and i can get my champion the 3 DG set from OG (x15 radiance) or i can combine my Nimrodel emblems to get my Captain a FA LI and so on.
Last edited by Neen_Eldar; Jun 20 2011 at 07:54 PM.
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Is this WAI Turbine?
If so, THANK YOU what a great change I have no idea why you would hide this from us though you would have gained a lot of free brownie points by putting it in the patch notes.
Well done if it's on purpose. If not, could you tell us when you're changing it back?
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by NameAlreadyTaken
I just moved 225 of them to shared storage. Pull any you already have out of storage and they change from 'Bound' to 'Bind to Account'.
Cool. Thanks. The ones in my Shared Storage were still bound to another character but this sounds like the fix.
Duvi Vastin: "But whenever we take feedback on most game systems, such as character builds, economics, or especially anything to do with PvP, then we are forced to read very carefully between the lines of any and all player feedback, as it is all inevitably skewed by self-investment, self-interest, and a deeply subjective viewpoint that increases in direct proportion to how long or successfully a player has occupied a particular role."
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
I was very happy when I realised this had changed last night. I've gone from lots of small-to-medium sized stacks of medallions spread across lots of chars (many of which don't want or will never get the set) to 2,400 sitting in my shared storage.
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
This is a brilliant and very welcome change and I sooooo hope it is deliberate and not a bug.
And it really should be extended to other barter items as well - all of them.
Where necessary items can be gated behind specific tokens such as raid armour barter coins (eg OD T2 armour) and/or reputation gating of barterers (eg Mirkwood pots/scrolls). Or even deeds.
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
This is either the greatest stealth change ever or the greatest bug ever. I have 3 characters with half a set because I keep switching classes to whatever we need for different boss fights. Now, my hunter (main) finally has the full set.
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Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by thunderchickn
Is this WAI Turbine?
If so, THANK YOU what a great change I have no idea why you would hide this from us though you would have gained a lot of free brownie points by putting it in the patch notes.
Well done if it's on purpose. If not, could you tell us when you're changing it back?
I really do not understand why this wasn't announced either, this could have been a great kudos gain for the devs!
Seriously awesome change! 690 medallions in my shared storage, now to figure out who gets the armor.
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by LilFeet
I really do not understand why this wasn't announced either, this could have been a great kudos gain for the devs!
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Its too confusing and disorienting for them to have the forums actually supporting things they do. Much easier to resist the bilious tide without the little pinpricks of praise. :P
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by LilFeet
I really do not understand why this wasn't announced either, this could have been a great kudos gain for the devs!
Seriously awesome change! 690 medallions in my shared storage, now to figure out who gets the armor.
Sometimes really good developers will ninja in easy awesome changes that nobody told them to work on, something like that usually doesn't get announced. Easier to ask forgiveness than permission kind of thing. Not sure if that's what happened here, but it might be.
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Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by Grampsaz
I've been told (By a dev) that when a Dev tells you something in a PM we're allowed to talk about that response in forums.
Since we're generally not allowed to talk about private turbine communications on an open forum, would you be so kind as to have the developer or someone from Turbine post here confirming this statement and its apparent change in community policy?
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Since we're generally not allowed to talk about private turbine communications on an open forum, would you be so kind as to have the developer or someone from Turbine post here confirming this statement and its apparent change in community policy?
There is no rule in place saying you can't tell people the answer they received in-game from a GM. The only rules that comes close are:
12. You may not re-post Private Messages on the Community Sites without the express consent of the sender.
17. We do not publicly discuss moderation decisions, or disciplinary actions taken against members, on the Community Sites and we ask that you do not either. Any threads or posts that mention infractions, bans, or thread/post deletions or modifications, etc. are subject to removal and may result in further disciplinary action.
Now... since they didn't re-post any part of the actual conversation and the subject doesn't involve any form of disciplinary action then they aren't breaking any rules. I myself have posted answers I have gotten from GMs in game in the past.
I am kind of surprised we haven't gotten a response from a dev yet though...
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Since we're generally not allowed to talk about private turbine communications on an open forum, would you be so kind as to have the developer or someone from Turbine post here confirming this statement and its apparent change in community policy?
Warrior put it better then I could. No rules are/were broken.
Originally Posted by Warriorpoetex75
There is no rule in place saying you can't tell people the answer they received in-game from a GM. The only rules that comes close are:
12. You may not re-post Private Messages on the Community Sites without the express consent of the sender.
17. We do not publicly discuss moderation decisions, or disciplinary actions taken against members, on the Community Sites and we ask that you do not either. Any threads or posts that mention infractions, bans, or thread/post deletions or modifications, etc. are subject to removal and may result in further disciplinary action.
Now... since they didn't re-post any part of the actual conversation and the subject doesn't involve any form of disciplinary action then they aren't breaking any rules. I myself have posted answers I have gotten from GMs in game in the past.
I am kind of surprised we haven't gotten a response from a dev yet though...
Hopefully its because he's busy working his magic
But I was surprised too, which is why I asked.
Just want to add that there may be a separate set of 'rules' for posting things from a GM/Moderator and posting things from a Dev.
I asked specificly that I was going to post something about what a dev and I were talking about a couple months ago, and he replied that unless its blatantly obvious things said in PM are presumed to be public
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
This was truly an awesome change. Would you be so kind as to make the coins Bind To Account as well. I would really like to get the OD set for my Warden, but have absolutely zero interest in the set for my RK which is the toon I use at my Kin's behest for Raids.
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
Originally Posted by Overtone
This was truly an awesome change. Would you be so kind as to make the coins Bind To Account as well. I would really like to get the OD set for my Warden, but have absolutely zero interest in the set for my RK which is the toon I use at my Kin's behest for Raids.
I'm sorry but that I doubt turbine will do, considering the whole fact they got rid of the ability to alt loot, for the express propose of requiring that toon to run the raid, rather then getting in after the fact. Anyway this raid is a lot more forgiving class wise, its easy to swap one person out if we know they need the piece on some other toon... usually lol. I'm content with the bound to account, allows people who have time (I don't but I used too) to run the instances many times a week and pass the medals onto the toon getting the armour. Much needed change.
Re: Medallions of the North-Men now Bind On Account?
I see now that it has been confirmed WAI, so in that case full props to Turbine. I take back my previous hesitancy
Thank you so much for fixing a major problem with the new barter coins and making them easier for us to acquire by running the instances on different toons. Whoever came up with this should be promoted, great job!
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Thank you Turbine! This is one of the best changes I can think of in the history of the game. Hopefully this will be setting a trend for future barter items. This game thrives on alt-aholics and the way things were going, running alts when needed was becoming very troublesome indeed.