Bah, you´re still riding on this? All what this quote says is that winning is kind of the point of playing, unless you´re solely in for the ride. And if that was the case, you wouldnt have those 4 stars in your sig.
Practise what you preach.
Most of the other servers´ PvP threads are filled with bickering and posturing about the actual fights. Only here the discussion consists of lists who had what ranks, classes, specific numbers as if someone was running a spreadsheet computation, and a detailed analysis who ran into EC/TA again. I chose to play creep elsewhere partly because its noones effing business how i play, and for the lack of fights we have on Withy, there are all the more self-entitled Arbiters of the One True PvP.
Last edited by Vandervahn; May 08 2012 at 08:56 AM.
Funny how people said bad stuff when i had 3 star on my signature, now so much more 4 star people and double less fight then it was when i lead moors fights. It's not problem who lead, who play, who have stars, always will be same problem on withy, it's just not good to play here pvmp. Only thing that makes people not leave is that you cant transfer all for price of one, so it's expensive, it takes time to level new char on new server or basicly because people still hope that problems will fix,,but they will not...
Play and shut up
Leave pvmp
Pay to transfer
Stop playing game
I dont see any other way, the first option sound fine for me.
P.S Haras, but you did answer, otherwise you would not reply in this thread
Bah, you´re still riding on this? All what this quote says is that winning is kind of the point of playing, unless you´re solely in for the ride. And if that was the case, you wouldnt have those 4 stars in your sig.
Practise what you preach.
Most of the other servers´ PvP threads are filled with bickering and posturing about the actual fights. Only here the discussion consists of lists who had what ranks, classes, specific numbers as if someone was running a spreadsheet computation, and a detailed analysis who ran into EC/TA again. I chose to play creep elsewhere partly because its noones effing business how i play, and for the lack of fights we have on Withy, there are all the more self-entitled Arbiters of the One True PvP.
Good to see you PvP on withy.. oh wait...
And i clearly just have 1800 rating cause i played coward,it has nothing to do with burgs beeing godmode pre Orion-Wargs...
And all my other freeps/creeps have 1800 rating aswell right ?
Haras wants suggestions ? I gave him plenty... stop beeing a lame coward and l2p it cant get any better then even numbers with heals and dmg on both sides... but you did not want that to happen,you decided to hide in NPCs and refuse to fight... <-- wich makes it hard to write here about battles so i am sorry that we cant please you with more battle posts mister vandervahn,but beeing a active pvp player on withy you surely knew that
Ask Pawjaw,as Elasto,ask feomalo... hell ask any creep of that grp... I am sure even if they dont write it on the forums they all just facepalm if you tell them you want good even fights ! You show it time after time you dont want them,making this Quote more then what Mr. Vander thinks,it makes it the reason PvP is dead on withy. Its not just you with that attitude Haras,its most freeps that are there regularly. You are just a prime example cause you openly admit that you want it that way ^.^
And somehow the rating of 1,8k has nothing to do with 'i shall quote you'' a saying on OOC 3 weeks ago when u said ''oh, 25 more renown and i'll have better rating then Edin''
Dunno how u menage it with beeing killed
Oh wait, you kill 1 then hug inside EC until your CD's are back then u kill 1 more (speaking about rank1-5 creeps)
Thats how u get 1,8k
But it's ok, nobody care about rank or rating since comodations are here. So i guess rating is few months late to have
1st of all stop your childish characterizations as cowred, lame etc and learn to speak like a mature man..
Yesterday we were playing all the evening at the stab and inside ta which was yours although we had equal or lower numbers..
When you organize the ''not giving points'' group with 2 high ranked WL elasto + warrarior and defiler bagalug we need much more dps to get only one of u.. we left TA. Without the element of surprise could t fight at open so we made some cyrcles until we found u at west bridge.. Although we had the bridge we all wiped without killing anyone because it was hard to kill anyone of high ranked creeps with so many heals + 2 wl bubbles.. In the time we need for bubbles cd hargen and pawjaw had easy work on our mini classes.. After we got wiped half of freeps loged because relised it was useless to fight in these conditions and the rest went on tr. Got another wipe there trying to save one rk and loged as there weren t any freeps..
The not giving points Haras died 4 - 5 times yesterday (had wiped earlier at stab) as usual when we are outnumbered..
And somehow the rating of 1,8k has nothing to do with 'i shall quote you'' a saying on OOC 3 weeks ago when u said ''oh, 25 more renown and i'll have better rating then Edin''
Dunno how u menage it with beeing killed
Oh wait, you kill 1 then hug inside EC until your CD's are back then u kill 1 more (speaking about rank1-5 creeps)
Thats how u get 1,8k
But it's ok, nobody care about rank or rating since comodations are here. So i guess rating is few months late to have
I kill 4 creeps at once... then reset cooldowns and do it again if we speak about r1-5s ... surely doesnt mean anything,since freeps are brokenly OP,i agree... no big deal getting stars if you want them..
And Haras,sure.. sure you where outnumbered at TR,how can i forget that... and yes the fight at stab was with even numbers.. too bad half of your grp decided to run instead of fight,that might be a reason why u lost ??
Creeps got farmed by you inside TA,we all saw it.. those lowranks left the moors lol,and we made the good grp... but why dont you ask your kinmate paw about it ? if you think i talk BS..
I didn t said we were outnumbered at tr at 1st time (don t count low rank creeps).. only when freeps loged we were outnumbered..
Pawjaw, zauruz, elasto's spider, shaklouk, metalburz who were inside TA are not so low ranked.. (don't blame them for that.. it was their choice to stay inside and i can understand it)
You got disappear from stab until the ''hospital'' arrived..
At stab one moment i ve been only me with LM and warden + Mistrel who played solo and wasn t there all the time..
Don t try to put pawjaw in the middle using your ''distructive'' methods.. Too exrperienced to fell in this kind of traps..
Play your game and stop refer to my name. Your stance at foroums and chats shows that u can t convince yourself that u are a good player and u try to makethat by raging at foroums.. That bring opposites results.
From your graphics its obvious that u are a rating lover.. almost parallel to x axis in every character of yours which shows that u can t go for sleep at night if u don t fix your rating or that u don t give any points..
Is it my fault that your failgrp cant beat mine 5v5 ? surely not.. l2p
And.. my rating went down to 1,5k 3 times today.. so im sure i gave enough Points.. just cause u only get 10 when u kill me with a raid doesnt mean i dont give any xD Also,as long as you kill more then you die,your rating will go up,or stay the same... unless you kill lowrated mostly farmed lowranks... see where im going with that ? If we win against your grp,ofc my rating will go up... not my fault if you cant beat us on even terms.. Math hasnt been your friend huh...
From your graphics its obvious that u are a rating lover.. almost parallel to x axis in every character of yours which shows that u can t go for sleep at night if u don t fix your rating or that u don t give any points..
Don t try to put pawjaw in the middle using your ''distructive'' methods.. Too exrperienced to fell in this kind of traps..
Play your game and stop refer to my name. Your stance at foroums and chats shows that u can t convince yourself that u are a good player and u try to makethat by raging at foroums.. That bring opposites results.
Lol,well i just offered you to ask your Kinmate on what you did yesterday as he wasnt really understanding your lameness either he was the one tracking you guys, the numbers where exactly even,since all the lowranks where gone at the end when we waited at TR for u to come out.... but w/e ^^ if you are afraid to ask him i can understand Go ask anyone else of that creepgrp,there are enough posts now not only from me about how lame you guys play... if u still dont get it all hope is lost
We all saw the video where u where running away from the fight cause people where dying... this is how you play... why keep denying it
You play the ezmode side... you never really played creep... and yet you think you need NPCs in a 8v8 with 4 potential healers on your side... pathetic... Ofc your low skilllvl makes it easier for creeps to fight you.. but that is again not our fault... l2p,then u wont need any more excuses
Oh and... dude,can you atleast try to speak english ? I mean.. i am no grammar nazi,and im not good at english either,but sometimes its hard to understand what your talking about...
Edith says : Gotta taste your own Medicine huh ? We can hug too ya know...
From your graphics its obvious that u are a rating lover.. almost parallel to x axis in every character of yours which shows that u can t go for sleep at night if u don t fix your rating or that u don t give any points..
Is it my fault that your failgrp cant beat mine 5v5 ? surely not.. l2p
And.. my rating went down to 1,5k 3 times today.. so im sure i gave enough Points.. just cause u only get 10 when u kill me with a raid doesnt mean i dont give any xD Also,as long as you kill more then you die,your rating will go up,or stay the same... unless you kill lowrated mostly farmed lowranks... see where im going with that ? If we win against your grp,ofc my rating will go up... not my fault if you cant beat us on even terms.. Math hasnt been your friend huh...
I'm playing 1 and a half month on the freep side of the Withy PvMP and the funny thing of this post is that you brag for even terms but i have never faced you on equal terms because you habituate to run, hug, disappear when the numbers are equal... or is it my idea? Try a bit self-criticism before mocking other people.
I'm playing 1 and a half month on the freep side of the Withy PvMP and the funny thing of this post is that you brag for even terms but i have never faced you on equal terms because you habituate to run, hug, disappear when the numbers are equal... or is it my idea? Try a bit self-criticism before mocking other people.
Ofc u wont get even terms with me if you stick with haras and hide from a 8v8 with even grps... Cant get much more even then that... You are delusional if you think i hide or run from even fights... Play creep then talk again if you got a clue about what even is... pathetic,go ask pawjaw...
Other then that... feel free to 1v1 me... dunno if u consider that even tho... I say it isnt even,cause u are surely not as good as i am ! hrhr
Oh and watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFLsK...&feature=share the first 50 seconds or so... and take a close look at that champ playing hunter and then deciding to run from the battle... wonder who that is :3
Ofc u wont get even terms with me if you stick with haras and hide from a 8v8 with even grps... Cant get much more even then that... You are delusional if you think i hide or run from even fights... Play creep then talk again if you got a clue about what even is... pathetic,go ask pawjaw...
Other then that... feel free to 1v1 me... dunno if u consider that even tho... I say it isnt even,cause u are surely not as good as i am ! hrhr
Oh and watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFLsK...&feature=share the first 50 seconds or so... and take a close look at that champ playing hunter and then deciding to run from the battle... wonder who that is :3
Well fighting 1v1! no problem by me even though i know that i would lose because i'm not so good in pvp... but do you know what i can do really well?? counting! yes i'm fighting along side with Haras and i find myself most of the times outnumbered! 8vs12 7vs12 6vs12!!!! and yet i'm giving fights even inside TA (taken by creeps) alongside with Haras....
No need to answer to him.. we saw him how he was running at npcs eventhough i was alone with shaklouk and pawjaw in my back one hour ago..
Ask pawjaw, laineth, horg, about that..
Bubbax and Horg dont count ? you wherent alone rofl.. talk the truth
Oh yeah,i kited you cause i dont have 2 bubbles huge dmg and sprint... im soooo bad... rofl... Shak jumped as you attacked me,and i wasnt sure if paw is gonna attack his kinmate either... so yeah in that situation i started to kite... But ofc i should have stood still and fought a champ 1v1 that has all his cooldowns ready right ?.. the classes are soo even... you go ask...
To Senas : yes i'm fighting along side with Haras and i find myself most of the times outnumbered! 8vs12 7vs12 6vs12!!!! and yet i'm giving fights even inside TA (taken by creeps) alongside with Haras.... <-- freeps have no problem dealing with 4-5 more creeps... if they know what they are doing... You obviously have little clue about lotro pvp if you think it needs even numbers for freeps to battle...
To Senas : yes i'm fighting along side with Haras and i find myself most of the times outnumbered! 8vs12 7vs12 6vs12!!!! and yet i'm giving fights even inside TA (taken by creeps) alongside with Haras.... <-- freeps have no problem dealing with 4-5 more creeps... if they know what they are doing... You obviously have little clue about lotro pvp if you think it needs even numbers for freeps to battle...
I have quite a clue about lotro pvp... i started playing pvp when a rank 10 creep couldnt do anything against a well geared freep! Right now sth like isnt even close to the truth!! i have seen 5 well geared creeps attacking high ranked creep and having difficulty to bring him in the half of his morale... i'm sure you are familiar with the scene! When i talked about being outnumbered
i mean being outnumbered..... 8vs12 with 9 creeps over rank5 is not quite fair... is it? It is easy to make excuses! oh and if YOU hug because you THINK you are outnumbered it is ok but if somebody else does it, he ruins the game?
I have quite a clue about lotro pvp... i started playing pvp when a rank 10 creep couldnt do anything against a well geared freep! Right now sth like isnt even close to the truth!! i have seen 5 well geared creeps attacking high ranked creep and having difficulty to bring him in the half of his morale... i'm sure you are familiar with the scene! When i talked about being outnumbered
i mean being outnumbered..... 8vs12 with 9 creeps over rank5 is not quite fair... is it? It is easy to make excuses! oh and if YOU hug because you THINK you are outnumbered it is ok but if somebody else does it, he ruins the game?
Say what ? Creeps attacking creeps ? and 8v12 with anything less then r6+ creeps should be a win for the freep grp,if they are organized,geared,and know what they are doing... Our Kin showed that a few times... im not saying hugging when its 10v2 is bad... no but i say hugging when it is 8v8 like yesterday at TR,and i say it again,ask pawjaw/any creep of the grp about the numbers is sad and lame...
Freeps > creeps.. stop comparing them as equals... if 10 creeps hug that isnt the same as 10 freeps hugging.... when will you understand ? creeps dont get their skills for free and in save pve zones... until r7 you are food for good freeps... while a r0 freep can have full etten armor,top gear and experience from other chars... a creep will stay weak until he reaches a certain rank to be able to keep up..
Go watch some videos about burgs killing 4-5 creeps at once.. minstrels take on half a raid of wargs and kill them...warden soloing a tyrant
well you keep telling me that i dont know what is going on.... its kind annoying... i know trully well how everything goes and i also know that fighting rank8 and 9 creeps is quite the challenge.... When i spoke about hugging i was talking about what happened today... you shalouk and pawjaw against 3 freeps and you preffered the npcs. i dont know if it was fair or not to stand and fight but pawjaw and shalouk are quite experienced to back you up as far as I can tell... how would you call it if not hugging? it wanst 8vs2 but 3vs3
And somehow the rating of 1,8k has nothing to do with 'i shall quote you'' a saying on OOC 3 weeks ago when u said ''oh, 25 more renown and i'll have better rating then Edin''
Atleast it made Baz happy that I stopped playing PVP on Withywindle with Edin a long time ago, glad I could brighten up his day
well you keep telling me that i dont know what is going on.... its kind annoying... i know trully well how everything goes and i also know that fighting rank8 and 9 creeps is quite the challenge.... When i spoke about hugging i was talking about what happened today... you shalouk and pawjaw against 3 freeps and you preffered the npcs. i dont know if it was fair or not to stand and fight but pawjaw and shalouk are quite experienced to back you up as far as I can tell... how would you call it if not hugging? it wanst 8vs2 but 3vs3
Freeps are stronger then creeps... when will you understand ? And,im not sure wich situation you are talking about,since the only time i saw pawjaw is when we killed the 3 freeps at TA Main Gate chasing them to Stab,they had 0 NPCs on them... and haras complained that i kited him :3
Fighting rank 9 creeps is a challenge ? sure.. but when do we ever have a raid of only r8+ creeps ? did you ever fight a minstrel or champ on your creep ? or a warden for that matter ? good geared and well played they take on multiple highranked creeps at once...
Yeah Edin,thanks for stopping and letting me pick up the highest rating on the Server <3 Btw,read the Quote again and you know he made it up,just a hint ...Saervyl had over 1,9k long time ago,guess i have to go get more huh? I totallly did it to beat Edin tho,couldnt stand him beeing on top of the LB.. real !
OMG Baz stop arguing with them, you just can t win this argument. And mostly it s our fault because we haven t play with someone outside the kin in a long time. The new players in moors don t have a clue how a good freep team works. I see you still think that r5+ creeps are hard to kill... that s just LOL.
As for the rating most of us had before we left the server there is a simple explanation. We started grouping up so no one had a chance to kill us or we were doing 30 kills before we were dying.
Baz come on Snowhy man, stop wasting your time on this server, its just no fun anymore.
Server is not a problem ... people who are on this server are . At least some , thats why wasting energy and time on forum is now what people does instead come to etten. I guess forum gives better rating than in etten *sighs* .
You wont change the way of playing people and everyone plays his own way, also telling others how to play or "learn to play" etc is just rude. Some people will never change and will do #### in etten, some will try change them, some will ignore and play own way, some will bring anger and frustration on forum, some will just try as much as they can show off ... it was like that, it is and it will be ...
So yes the easiest way is leave server ofcourse, but if you decide stay try spend more time in moors guys than on forum
Originally Posted by touristakos
i have seen 5 well geared creeps attacking high ranked creep and having difficulty to bring him in the half of his morale...
I must say i belive you but only becouse there is only one answer for that: gear doesn't make player a "good pvp player" . Sadly most our "high rank" freeps & creeps got their ranks thx farming quests. PvE is not PvP so throught PvE players wont become good "PvP" players. I have seen minstrel who was using skill on my reaver to lose agro from me *facepalm* also a guardian who was using taunt to get agro from me while i was sitting on that minstrel ^^ Rk who was using EC skill and dots on hatchling instead spider.
Hugging keeps and EC/OC is a part of tactic in ettenmoors but only if stronger group going for keep or outnumbered those who "hugging". That's normal and thats for what we got keeps and nasty NPC Sad thing is only when same number of players on both side decide not go in open only make another side come and pull NPC .
OMG Baz stop arguing with them, you just can t win this argument. And mostly it s our fault because we haven t play with someone outside the kin in a long time. The new players in moors don t have a clue how a good freep team works. I see you still think that r5+ creeps are hard to kill... that s just LOL.
As for the rating most of us had before we left the server there is a simple explanation. We started grouping up so no one had a chance to kill us or we were doing 30 kills before we were dying.
Baz come on Snowhy man, stop wasting your time on this server, its just no fun anymore.
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if we speak about r1-5s ... surely doesnt mean anything,since freeps are brokenly OP,i agree... no big deal getting stars if you want them.. 
If we win against your grp,ofc my rating will go up... not my fault if you cant beat us on even terms.. Math hasnt been your friend huh...
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