Thread: PvMP on Eldar (Part 4)

I have one question for guys from Mellowship. If someone have quest to escort that little hobbit from HH to LC, why do you lure spiders at that little hobbit? Any special reason?

Originally Posted by Shirkaster

I have one question for guys from Mellowship. If someone have quest to escort that little hobbit from HH to LC, why do you lure spiders at that little hobbit? Any special reason?

So it would reset and they can do the quest themselves?

Originally Posted by avdept

upd: few mins ago i was witness how kin group of last sons of ...(dont remember what) came lc3 and killed creeps who were sparring, im really sorry for them, that guys seems like had no idea what was going on(everybody r4-5)

Hi guys

May I ask where exactly is LC3? This spar area is freep vs creep or by creeps on the same side? Are there any rules?

Thank's a lot
Óscar

Originally Posted by avaaescaner

Hi guys

May I ask where exactly is LC3? This spar area is freep vs creep or by creeps on the same side? Are there any rules?

Thank's a lot
Óscar

LC3 is the location of the Good Lumber Camp map that creeps get after finishing lots of LC quests. See this picture for the exact location:
http://www.the-rangers.net/joomla/im...eep_maploc.jpg
(A bit south-east of the D of Hithlad)

It's considered as a spar area. There aren't any "official" rules, but here are a few generally accepted "guidelines":
- Jumping in front of the freep/creep means you want to spar him/her.
- If you spar a warg, let him use stealth first. Same counts for a burglar. Funnily enough, usually when I spar a burglar, he lets me start from stealth.
- No buffs from other classes (for example, no captain buffs if you aren't a captain)
- No racial skills (most creeps hate this).
- Some long CD skills aren't really appreciated in a spar. Last Stand and T&G are two of them. Of course you are may use them, but most creeps won't like that. On creepside, wargs aren't really supposed to use Disappear. Lots might disagree and believe you should use all skills possible, but at LC3 I prefer fair spars.

how about rvrs charge?
should i let them to charge?
and do they allowed to use skill which gives them some bonus damage, but they dying after it?

Originally Posted by avdept

how about rvrs charge?
should i let them to charge?
and do they allowed to use skill which gives them some bonus damage, but they dying after it?

charge is fine.

dying rage is also fine.. as long as they don't use it to charge away so you get 0 renown. that would be considered very bad sportsmanship!

Originally Posted by Wardrat

LC3 is the location of the Good Lumber Camp map that creeps get after finishing lots of LC quests. See this picture for the exact location:
http://www.the-rangers.net/joomla/im...eep_maploc.jpg
(A bit south-east of the D of Hithlad)

It's considered as a spar area. There aren't any "official" rules, but here are a few generally accepted "guidelines":
- Jumping in front of the freep/creep means you want to spar him/her.
- If you spar a warg, let him use stealth first. Same counts for a burglar. Funnily enough, usually when I spar a burglar, he lets me start from stealth.
- No buffs from other classes (for example, no captain buffs if you aren't a captain)
- No racial skills (most creeps hate this).
- Some long CD skills aren't really appreciated in a spar. Last Stand and T&G are two of them. Of course you are may use them, but most creeps won't like that. On creepside, wargs aren't really supposed to use Disappear. Lots might disagree and believe you should use all skills possible, but at LC3 I prefer fair spars.

Nice m8, Wich Lord puts that rules? and who voted that?

And who cares about most freeps hate?

When a warg dosen't disappear if he needs?

Rule 1: there is no rules, just jump and fight, and if u lose don't cry (this is not a rule)

If u don't like the playstile of your opponent don't spar him anymore.

If a raid charge and kill everyone over there, bad luck! don't cry and walk again there if u want.

Originally Posted by GalelValdan

Nice m8, Wich Lord puts that rules? and who voted that?

And who cares about most freeps hate?

When a warg dosen't disappear if he needs?

Rule 1: there is no rules, just jump and fight, and if u lose don't cry (this is not a rule)

If u don't like the playstile of your opponent don't spar him anymore.

If a raid charge and kill everyone over there, bad luck! don't cry and walk again there if u want.

nice try bro

Originally Posted by GalelValdan

Nice m8, Wich Lord puts that rules? and who voted that?

And who cares about most freeps hate?

When a warg dosen't disappear if he needs?

Rule 1: there is no rules, just jump and fight, and if u lose don't cry (this is not a rule)

If u don't like the playstile of your opponent don't spar him anymore.

If a raid charge and kill everyone over there, bad luck! don't cry and walk again there if u want.

SOOO true. Can´t wait always see how ###### losers champs pops bubble(s), selfheals you really need them?? against creeps?? Good champ (GOOD GOOD GOOD) champ(s) can too easy kill high rank creeps without any problem...

Rule 1: it ´s good to say now "don´t cry" coz your class is... no vittu godmode!!! BEFORE RoI i saw you few times spars and you pop all cd´s (ofc super glory stance)

have you ever wonder why is good there is some rules??

Most of etten freeps are just ###### cry machine and that is reason why etten is so unbalanced atm... ty turbine.

Freeps:

Burglar: no stealth, touch and go. hips, knives out, exploit opening or any other conju stuff. (good one can go without stuns too, but Hibbi is loser
Captain. Last stand (i don´t know much about this class so, someone type something)
Champion: no bubbles, selfheal (more??) fervour is super, glory=l2p
Guardian: Pledge, warriors heart and brutal charge and turn the table what ever. (more?)
Hunter: Don´t use bow.
Loremaster: your super heal wisdom of something. In my opinion it is so lame to use Haruna tactic (need lc3-gy kite)
Minstrel: Don´t come to lc3. It´s lame just heal heal heal and maybe drop WP too bubble is for nabs too, gratz.
Rune-keeper: Lahnaaaa give some nice to here!
Warden: Don´t know that "new" heal. Give almost full morale. Selfheal traits are lame too (blueline jo)

Spider: no conju, no Trapdoor Sanctuary jo?
Reaver: no need use DS.
Defiler: no need to use Fell Restoration and you can try to make some dps too
Blackarrow: Moving target. Uruk heal ofc
Warleader: can you do some dps?? don´t only heal and uruk heal is lame too.
Warg: DIPS, sprint and conju.

YES, so many skill. But 1vs1 is good if you wanna learn play your class better. If you drop your "i win buttons" away how good you´re??

No morale, power, wound, disease, fear, poison or any other pots. Don´t spar if you have any stupid buffs (hunter with motivation, crit buff, reaver with uruk +10% power, morale etc you know)
Someone give us more.




PS. Hunter can use bow

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Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi

Rune-keeper: Lahnaaaa give some nice to here!

Kiting aint nice in spars.

Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi

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<3

Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi

Spider: no conju, no Trapdoor Sanctuary jo?
Reaver: no need use DS.
Defiler: no need to use Fell Restoration and you can try to make some dps too
Blackarrow: Moving target. Uruk heal ofc
Warleader: can you do some dps?? don´t only heal and uruk heal is lame too.
Warg: DIPS, sprint and conju.

Spider: Hoeness. Poisons players to trap them in his Bayern cave.
Reaver: Toni Schumacher. Lethal in melee against French and freeps.
Defiler: Völler. Slime expertise hidden beneath the mustache mask.
Blackarrow: Matthäus. Makes any class look like easy mode.
Warleader: Beckenbauer. Calenhand's apprentice.
Warg: Müller. Unseen until scoring.

Originally Posted by pakastevihannes

Spider: Hoeness. Poisons players to trap them in his Bayern cave.
Reaver: Toni Schumacher. Lethal in melee against French and freeps.
Defiler: Völler. Slime expertise hidden beneath the mustache mask.
Blackarrow: Matthäus. Makes any class look like easy mode.
Warleader: Beckenbauer. Calenhand's apprentice.
Warg: Müller. Unseen until scoring.

Spider: Hoeness. Poisons players to trap them in his Bayern cave. This is so true

Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi

SOOO true. Can´t wait always see how ###### losers champs pops bubble(s), selfheals you really need them?? against creeps?? Good champ (GOOD GOOD GOOD) champ(s) can too easy kill high rank creeps without any problem...

Rule 1: it ´s good to say now "don´t cry" coz your class is... no vittu godmode!!! BEFORE RoI i saw you few times spars and you pop all cd´s (ofc super glory stance)

have you ever wonder why is good there is some rules??

Most of etten freeps are just ###### cry machine and that is reason why etten is so unbalanced atm... ty turbine.

Calm down doctor, please.

First, we all know champions are hard to kill in glory stance and have very high dps in fervour stance, are op now.

Second, maybe this is our time to have fun as all classes had done, freeps and creeps.

Third i never cry and i lost many spars, the champion was unbalanced for so long time and i think we will have a hard cap again as always.

Fourd, when i used long CDs in spars before changes i was in glory stance and glory was a hard way to play, was not l2p.

Fifth, respect m8, i don't know who are you but u know who i am, so personal matters in game plz.

Sixth, i dont use bubbles to take rating, i always go ahead, in the middle of all creeps and many time alone, i don't need a healer behind me, so you can catch me so easy if you want.

Seventh, spars are spars in pve, there are not spars in pvp, maybe duels and rules must be agreed between the opponents.

Unlike many of the FOTM champions Galel has always been in Etten, in good times and bad so I think he earned a little OP time (even how ugly that turned out atm). I expect him to be around when chimps are no longer OP and taking his part of the beating again.

Originally Posted by GalelValdan

.

You really think champ was unbalanced before RoI?? can you tell how??

I have watching many times spars before RoI champ doesn´t have much problem kill creep (high rank and any class) without any cd´s.

Originally Posted by botoo

Unlike many of the FOTM champions Galel has always been in Etten, in good times and bad so I think he earned a little OP time (even how ugly that turned out atm). I expect him to be around when chimps are no longer OP and taking his part of the beating again.

As always m8, my rank says it all and my deaths.

Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi

You really think champ was unbalanced before RoI?? can you tell how??

I have watching many times spars before RoI champ doesn´t have much problem kill creep (high rank and any class) without any cd´s.

In last 5 years champions had 3 great nerfs, it all depends in what devs want playing in game, if there are many champs they nerf us, if there are many hunters they nerf them. After Mirkwood we can't see many champs in pvp, is it right? and normally in raids, for so long i was the only 1 champ in raid, and was strange to see 3 or 4 champs at the same time. Normally losing spars vs spiders, reavers, wargs, defilers, the only class easy to win was WL for a champion for 1 year. Maybe if u understand spanish i can explain you better how the champion was unbalanced and why champions (high ranks) only went in raids.

It's been discussed for the last 4+ years and some of us are yet hoping to see a class (no matter creep or freep) balanced. If the game was only about Ettens maybe somewhen we would witness a player's skills to be the only thing that matters. But in "pve+etten game" that awsome day would never come... to my mind =P

Anyway, could any1 sumup brief facts about the Ettens these days (Isengard days i mean)? Did anything dramatically changed xcept for renown quests?
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Bazkanaggi

SOOO true. Can´t wait always see how ###### losers champs pops bubble(s), selfheals you really need them?? against creeps?? Good champ (GOOD GOOD GOOD) champ(s) can too easy kill high rank creeps without any problem...

Rule 1: it ´s good to say now "don´t cry" coz your class is... no vittu godmode!!! BEFORE RoI i saw you few times spars and you pop all cd´s (ofc super glory stance)

have you ever wonder why is good there is some rules??

Most of etten freeps are just ###### cry machine and that is reason why etten is so unbalanced atm... ty turbine.

Freeps:

Burglar: no stealth, touch and go. hips, knives out, exploit opening or any other conju stuff. (good one can go without stuns too, but Hibbi is loser
Captain. Last stand (i don´t know much about this class so, someone type something)
Champion: no bubbles, selfheal (more??) fervour is super, glory=l2p
Guardian: Pledge, warriors heart and brutal charge and turn the table what ever. (more?)
Hunter: Don´t use bow.
Loremaster: your super heal wisdom of something. In my opinion it is so lame to use Haruna tactic (need lc3-gy kite)
Minstrel: Don´t come to lc3. It´s lame just heal heal heal and maybe drop WP too bubble is for nabs too, gratz.
Rune-keeper: Lahnaaaa give some nice to here!
Warden: Don´t know that "new" heal. Give almost full morale. Selfheal traits are lame too (blueline jo)

Spider: no conju, no Trapdoor Sanctuary jo?
Reaver: no need use DS.
Defiler: no need to use Fell Restoration and you can try to make some dps too
Blackarrow: Moving target. Uruk heal ofc
Warleader: can you do some dps?? don´t only heal and uruk heal is lame too.
Warg: DIPS, sprint and conju.

YES, so many skill. But 1vs1 is good if you wanna learn play your class better. If you drop your "i win buttons" away how good you´re??

No morale, power, wound, disease, fear, poison or any other pots. Don´t spar if you have any stupid buffs (hunter with motivation, crit buff, reaver with uruk +10% power, morale etc you know)
Someone give us more.




PS. Hunter can use bow

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Warste setittää! +rep!!!!! äijä puhuu asiaa!

awesome action this weekend, really just awesome!! GJ elgo and lamaalas for the freeps and demii, sharn and webbs for the creeps

Originally Posted by commanderjerkface

awesome action this weekend, really just awesome!! GJ elgo and lamaalas for the freeps and demii, sharn and webbs for the creeps

Yup some great raids n1 lamaas and especially elgo your raid finally got me to rank 7

Last night (Tues) was insane, I don't recall ever seeing so many creeps before. Everyone seemed to have gone nuts, constantly charging, it was crazy fun - /salute to all!

It would have been even better had the main freep raid not spent the best part of an hour sitting at the GY on 22/24 advertising for a LM and CPT, but you can't have everything

yes i agree good action this week made lots and ranked to 11


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Doomex

Grats Doomex... be seeing you soon I expect

gz Dems

Gz m8


loailo lailoo!

In the end nobody cares how you grinded the infamy or renown for your rank. If in doubt you can ask Greto just how prestigious his completely soloed R15 is.

My cousin Farmpaws is a self-made man: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...paws-on-rank14

I like how he completely Calenhanded the crumbling remains of freep trash in last november averaging about 40k infamy a day: http://dailystats.theblackappendage....armpaws?page=2

Originally Posted by dfghsfdgsdf

yes i agree good action this week made lots and ranked to 11


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Doomex

grats mate! i am very glad you did not return to your life of crime and immorality and have continued to be a no lifer

xxxxxxxx

m8 ory what crime life u are day dreaming or taking something or ### ty for gz me

Well done Demis, you are pro as you are wise.

~~~~~~~~hooray for joelug ~~~~~~~~~~



<3

thx everybody for yesterday's spars, especially mwyan(sorry if typed it wrong) for all that time he stayed and rezzed his teammates.

ps And guys, please dont use insingias in spars, because its not fair to other players, same as champs bubbles, minnies FH and so on

when u go gank some one who is farming npc for a sigil with duo or fellowship when the player is bad situation and have 5-10 npcs on him u need to go learn how to earn renown real pvp , i dont say this cuz i been ganked there i just say this cuz its kinda need to be mentioned how some players earn their renown and cry about how others earn theirs i doubt it can be as novice as ganking sigil farmers
ps. specialy on Ranger mr dwarf RK


Doomex

Originally Posted by Ananrael

Hello,

wall of text

Sincerely sorry

Ananrael

In this weekend's council at Glan-Vraig, it's been discussed and decided to remove you from the military potential of the Free people for a month in order to balance it with the earning amount of renown you made through clubbing. Therefore, your entrance to the map beyond the Glan-Vraig will be prohibited and instead you are being forced to stand at the spawn point 24/7, and supply the wounded soldiers with water and food when they respawn thereby.

Sincerely sorry for the inconvenience, i hope the misfortune becomes a lesson for you



the decision was taken unanimously from the council of the Ettenmoors

Originally Posted by dfghsfdgsdf

when u go gank some one who is farming npc for a sigil with duo or fellowship when the player is bad situation and have 5-10 npcs on him u need to go learn how to earn renown real pvp , i dont say this cuz i been ganked there i just say this cuz its kinda need to be mentioned how some players earn their renown and cry about how others earn theirs i doubt it can be as novice as ganking sigil farmers
ps. specialy on Ranger mr dwarf RK


Doomex

>>farming npc for a sigil
>>have 5-10 npcs on him
>>ganking sigil farmers


Since all creeps farming sigil, what freeps suppose to do? Stay gv or run boring pve raids again and again? This is pvp area, and everything allowed. More then last days we have outnubmering buff like 24hours\day which makes ganking pve creeps even more useful because of +20% renown

ps 3 days in a row i was comming slugs and helping to random creeps kill them until yesterday when you jumped on me when i was hitting slugs for you

upd 3.1.2012
### is wrong with you chargex?
getting mad after loosing spar? forcing your curs-creeps to qq when any freep log creep side? You definitely need to stop being such ######. I was respecting you while you was adequate creep\freep but now its gone mate. Im sorry for you. Learn to lose

i wont have a conversation about pvp with some1 who got 183k inf/ren sorry continue do what u do to earn your renown , and ill do what i do im not the one who end up editing my own post to add some QQ to it cuz i got ganked in lc3 come back after 500k inf/ren


Doomex QQless®

Originally Posted by dfghsfdgsdf

i wont have a conversation about pvp with some1 who got 183k inf/ren sorry continue do what u do to earn your renown , and ill do what i do im not the one who end up editing my own post to add some QQ to it cuz i got ganked in lc3 come back after 500k inf/ren


Doomex QQless®

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Originally Posted by Gretolas

the decision was taken unanimously from the council of the Ettenmoors

I see I've yet again missed an important Ettenmoors business meeting due to an absence of a creep mail system. They really should imply one in the next update.

nice battle friday night , ty reth for making raid who actually did diffrence at end

Doomex

Vani got perm baned, friend told me on X-fire, was about time. This made my day, and im sure for some ppl heRe too xD

Originally Posted by biologic

Vani got perm baned, friend told me on X-fire, was about time. This made my day, and im sure for some ppl heRe too xD

why did he get perma ban?